• Using nntp on tilde

    From alexlehm@alexlehm@cosmic.voyage to tilde.text on Thu Jan 26 12:25:48 2023
    Hi, I am looking into trying out tin, is there a dedicated test group?
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.text on Thu Jan 26 17:00:29 2023
    Is local.test visible on all nntp nodes?
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  • From alexlehm@alexlehm@cosmic.voyage to tilde.text on Thu Jan 26 22:39:54 2023
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    Is local.test visible on all nntp nodes?


    I guess local really means local only. The groups do not exist e.g. on cosmic --
    Alexander
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  • From alexlehm@alexlehm@cosmic.voyage to tilde.text on Thu Jan 26 23:06:25 2023
    Now it working on cosmic to post as well.
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  • From xwindows@xwindows@tilde.club to tilde.text on Fri Jan 27 15:06:06 2023
    On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, alexlehm wrote:

    is there a dedicated test group?

    The one that is peered across Tildeverse (i.e. in tilde.* namespace)?
    Not really.

    I think the purpose for test group[s] is for testing newreader's
    posting ability (as well as experimenting weird formatting
    and suchlike) before actually posting real messages to groups
    which are peered-- to avoid polluting actual newsgroups
    with a lot of test messages. [1]

    In practice, posting of test messages to actual peered newsgroups
    are allowed [2]; but you are advised to keep it at the minimum
    in a normal situation at least. (Yours is understandable
    as Cosmic.voyage doesn't provide a test newsgroup)

    On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, yeti wrote:

    Is local.test visible on all nntp nodes?

    local.* are specific to each NNTP server, each of them are not the same.
    For example: local.test in Tilde.club is not the same as local.test
    in Tilde.team, the test message ~alexlehm posted in local.test
    through Tilde.club [3] is only visible to ones who use Tilde.club's
    NNTP server (news.tilde.club a.k.a. tilde.club a.k.a. news.tildeverse.org);
    and could not be viewed by ones who use Tilde.team's NNTP server
    despite them having a same-name group.

    But for Cosmic.voyage specifically, however...

    On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, alexlehm wrote:

    The groups do not exist e.g. on cosmic

    Okay, thanks for bringing this up. I should get in touch with ~tomasino
    later about Cosmic.voyage's phony listing of `local.general`
    and `local.test` in `LIST NEWGROUPS` NNTP command output.
    (As expected, these groups returned "411 No such group" error
    on actual issue of "GROUP" NNTP command)

    Cheers,
    ~xwindows
    (Tilde.club's unofficial Netnews wrangler)

    P.S. This post is sent from inside Tilde.club.


    [1] You might have seen some humorous reply I have made
    in response to someone posting a test message outside of
    a dedicated test group when the server in question does have one,
    like...

    "Re: test; failed" [2022-12-29T14:53:13Z]
    <news:86de2aab-747-dc97-639c-e5bd19e8e8c@tilde.club>
    <nntp://news.tilde.club/tilde.club/124>

    [2] This usually happen when a new host join the peering,
    or when a new newsgroup is about to be established;
    for the purpose of verifying the peering.

    [3] "Test post" [2023-01-25T19:22:58Z]
    (Viewable only via Tilde.club's Netnews server)
    <news:tqrvig$t836$1@tilde.club>
    <nntp://news.tilde.club/local.test/425>
    <https://tilde.club/~xwindows/tools/netnews/groups/?local.test/425>
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  • From James Tomasino@tomasino@cosmic.voyage to tilde.text on Tue Jan 31 21:05:23 2023
    On 2023-01-27, xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, alexlehm wrote:
    Okay, thanks for bringing this up. I should get in touch with ~tomasino
    later about Cosmic.voyage's phony listing of `local.general`
    and `local.test` in `LIST NEWGROUPS` NNTP command output.
    (As expected, these groups returned "411 No such group" error
    on actual issue of "GROUP" NNTP command)

    Yeah, I should fix that...
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