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  • Posts about books go in where? (Newsgroup question)

    From xwindows@xwindows@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 14:30:59 2021
    Hi retrofolks and tildeministrators,

    I'm aiming to start a thread that is likely to be very long-lived,
    about books, where people come to drop book recommendations
    swap reading lists, something of that sort.

    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    - tilde.text, where all posts there seemed to be about digital text so far?
    - tilde.meta, the jack of all discussions?

    Or should I request a new newsgroup for this kind of thing? Like...

    - tilde.art.literature (does not exist yet)
    - tilde.books (does not exist yet)

    Please advice.

    Regards,
    ~xwindows
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  • From petra@petra@tilde.town to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 09:28:34 2021
    xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:
    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    I dunno but I want to follow it.

    ~petra
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  • From Case Duckworth@acdw@acdw.net to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 06:38:49 2021
    "petra" <petra@tilde.town> writes:

    xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:
    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    I dunno but I want to follow it.

    Same! I think .. if it's just going to be in a thread, tilde.text. If
    you think it could be many threads about a bunch of different books,
    make a new tilde.art.books or tilde.art.words or something. (If you can
    of course -- I'm assuming you can since you're talking about it, but I
    have /no idea/ how newsgroups work, lol)

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    ~ acdw
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 14:35:53 2021
    What about expiration?
    Isn't it a shame that lots of nice stuff will vanish after some months?

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  • From Arch@archenoth@tilde.town to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 11:33:12 2021
    For something as small-scale as this server, I wonder if it's a good
    idea to turn off expiration? (Or if that's even possible)
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  • From @lkosov@tilde.town to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 20:32:06 2021
    xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:

    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    - tilde.text, where all posts there seemed to be about digital text so far?
    - tilde.meta, the jack of all discussions?

    Or should I request a new newsgroup for this kind of thing? Like...

    I'd say put it in tilde.text, whose description *does* read "all things
    text". e-books, reflowable text, all written things are still... text, or at least textual.

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  • From freet@freet@aussies.space (The Free Thinker) to tilde.meta on Mon May 3 23:17:18 2021
    Arch <archenoth@tilde.town> wrote:
    For something as small-scale as this server, I wonder if it's a good
    idea to turn off expiration? (Or if that's even possible)

    It's possible, a number of Usenet servers no longer expire
    articles, even some free ones. The only drag could be that some
    people have their newsreaders configured to download every article
    heading every time they visit the group, it's usually possible to
    limit that to eg. 500 max. in the settings, but those who keep
    downloading everything might account for a lot of server load
    eventually.

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  • From Arch@archenoth@tilde.town to tilde.meta on Tue May 4 00:33:49 2021
    That seems...bad

    Maybe requests could be rate-limited after X amount of bandwidth if
    something like that starts to get overwhelming for the server? Hm
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  • From Case Duckworth@acdw@acdw.net to tilde.meta on Wed May 5 09:37:11 2021
    Is there any way to set the expiration to be tied to size, as opposed to
    time? Maybe a cron job that checks the size of the spool, and updates
    the nntp expiration to a non-infinite time if the size gets above, say,
    500mb?
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    ~ acdw
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  • From mjd@mjd@sdf.org to tilde.meta on Mon Nov 29 21:46:04 2021
    Me too. Did this ever happen?

    petra <petra@tilde.town> wrote:
    xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:
    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    I dunno but I want to follow it.

    ~petra
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  • From m256@m256@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sun Dec 10 18:52:20 2023
    On 2021-05-03, lkosov <lkosov@tilde.town> wrote:
    I'd say put it in tilde.text, whose description *does* read "all things text". e-books, reflowable text, all written things are still... text, or at least textual.

    I still think having it seperate is a good idea. If I only want book suggestions it would be easier to not have shift through all the other tilde.text content and just only see books talk. As a side note maybe we
    can use the the "Keywords:" tags or whatever they are called to denote
    book posting from regular ones.
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sun Dec 10 19:07:30 2023
    m256@tilde.institute writes:

    Since the size is so small at the moment I assume all the news is
    still archived on the server somewhere but is just not served to the
    users. I have no idea how Usenet actually works so idk.

    Usenet is a set of groups/hierarchies that may be delivered by several transports. NNTP just is one of them.
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  • From jmcs@jmcs@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Sun Mar 30 14:37:16 2025


    On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, mjd@sdf.org wrote:

    Me too. Did this ever happen?

    petra <petra@tilde.town> wrote:
    xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:
    The problem is which newsgroup this kind of threads (about books,
    mostly physical books) should go into?

    I dunno but I want to follow it.

    ~petra


    hello everyone from the future! I won't update you about the
    geopolitical situation of planet Earth

    Thing is, I've read all this thread, and I'm not sure a decision was
    eventually made. Talking about books is one of the things I would love
    to use these news groups for.

    I still haven't read the archives of 'tilde.text', so if it was
    eventually put there, I'm sure I'll find it. If it's somewhere else,
    could you share where?

    And, if it never happened... should we continue the conversation and see
    if we can get it going?

    In any case, thanks in advance for any pointer!
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