xrggyr
Also wowza, this game really took off, huh?
jngpu
fpnyr
frjvat znpuvar
V rfcrpvnyyl yvxr gur pbagebyf naq gur guernq srrq qrgnvy!
Sver rkgvathvfure
Gurezbf
grn
I'm not sure how this isn't answered already
Zrgebabzr
yvtugohyo
onggrel
znvyobk
zbqrz
sbhagnva
fcevaxyre
pbzcnff
synfu qevir
cnlcubar
zntarg
Too obvious :P
Yes, that is it!
fcnexyre
narzbzrgre
pnzren
sybccl qvfx
pnaqyr
Nice! :D I remember seeing those things in the Ninoy Aquino
International Airport back then. Unfortunately I don't see them anywhere outside of airports...
zrtncubar
Please check that that checksum is valid
$ hpfun zrtncubar n826863qo521o62578145p7s4595o776392s7nqrn44p2oon227sr29pp7p6qos3//
BX
$ cevags ZRTNCUBAR | fun256fhz -p <(rpub "n826863qo521o62578145p7s4595o776392s7nqrn44p2oon227sr29pp7p6qos3 *-")
-: BX
$ cevags ZRTNCUBAR > nafjre.gkg
$ urkqhzc -P nafjre.gkg
00000000 4q 45 47 41 50 48 4s 4r 45 |ZRTNCUBAR| 00000009
$ rpub "n826863qo521o62578145p7s4595o776392s7nqrn44p2oon227sr29pp7p6qos3 *nafjre.gkg" | fun256fhz -p
nafjre.gkg: BX
$ cevags ZRTNCUBAR | fun256fhz -o n826863qo521o62578145p7s4595o776392s7nqrn44p2oon227sr29pp7p6qos3 *-
P.S. The correct answer in an ALL-UPPERCASE no-space no-newline ASCII form has following SHA-256 checksum
fjvgpu
not to be confused with the Avagraqb Fjvgpu
gryrivfvba
I still prefer jngpuvat gur arjf using that rather than
fgernzvat sebz gur vagrearg. It's less distracting that way.
My result appears that the checksum was valid (last output line also
matched letter-by-letter to the checksum I have given on the challenge). Also, note that _every_ bit I said in the postscript of the challenge
are significant in regard of making sure that the checksum matches...
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021, xwindows wrote:
P.S. The correct answer in an ALL-UPPERCASE no-space no-newline ASCII form >> has following SHA-256 checksum
^ The "no-newline" part seems to be a very common pitfall,
in my experience.
Anyway, may I ask which exact method did you use, and which OS you tried
to do a verification on? (The combo that appeared to give you
a mismatching result that is)
Regards,
~xwindows
onyybba
If it weren't for the bottommost part, it would look like a
punlbgr to me. :P
synfuyvtug
V'z fghpx va gur qnex, ohg lbh'er zl //synfuyvtug//
Lbh'er trggva? zr, trggva? zr guebhtu gur avtug
Xrl
which for some reason is worth 10 reviver seeds in Pokemon
Mystery Dungeon...
I supposed that this is from "Pitch Perfect 2" soundtrack, right? [1]
[1] // uggcf://travhf.pbz/Wrffvr-w-synfuyvtug-ylevpf //
yrggre
WALKIETALKIE
film
trumpet
bicycle
sna
ohmmre
and I assume it is being used to cut hair?
CNVY
Along with a QVCCRE, those are what you need for
cleaning, cleansing, and bathing in Southeast Asia. :D
JVAQGHEOVAR
a plan for one on my wall (I overheard someone say that people could
take the print-outs at the community consultation meeting, so I
came out with one of each :) ).
Now I've also got the following aliases in my .bashrc:
alias rot13enc='tr A-MN-Za-mn-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m'
alias rot13dec='tr N-ZA-Mn-za-m A-MN-Za-mn-z'
I had to resort to my tilde account for the checksum though.
Compiling sha256sum for this PC would be a pain - I'm still an
MD5er myself.
Compiling sha256sum for this PC would be a pain - I'm still an
MD5er myself.
Understandable. [2] On a tangent note: I also did few quick web searches
for SHA-2 utility that works on 16-bit DOS and haven't found anything
useful. (The old GNUish project seemed to provide just MD5 checksum utility apparently) I'll have to take care of that someday.
Long live vintage computers,
~xwindows
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, The Free Thinker wrote:
JVAQGHEOVAR
Correct!
a plan for one on my wall (I overheard someone say that people could
take the print-outs at the community consultation meeting, so I
came out with one of each :) ).
They even hand out the blueprints for free? Wow. (Or... that was required
as a part of process to obtain permit?)
Now I've also got the following aliases in my .bashrc:
alias rot13enc='tr A-MN-Za-mn-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m'
alias rot13dec='tr N-ZA-Mn-za-m A-MN-Za-mn-z'
Well, technically `rot13dec` isn't needed, since ROT13 is self-reversing;
so you can just have a single alias called `rot13` [1] with code from either the first or second line, and use it for both encoding and decoding.
(They work the same)
I had to resort to my tilde account for the checksum though.
Compiling sha256sum for this PC would be a pain - I'm still an
MD5er myself.
Okay, I'm now really curious. I remembered you're using various sorts
of vintage computers since you phlogged about that; but does this mean
you are reading/posting to Tildeverse Netnews on a different machine
from one that you'd normally use for SSH'ing into aussies.space?
Or... you are using some unconventional kind of SSH client?
Compiling sha256sum for this PC would be a pain - I'm still an
MD5er myself.
Understandable. [2]
[2]
Somehow I felt oddly adventurous for source-hunting today; so I'm noting here just in case you are using older GNU/Linux or Unix distribution;
I found that the earliest version of GNU Coreutils which came with
SHA-2 utilities and is readily available for download appeared
to be version 6.3, circa September 2006:
- BZip2'd 4.84 MiB: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-6.3.tar.bz2 - GZip'd 7.42 MiB: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-6.3.tar.gz
(30.17 MiB uncompressed Tar, which unpacked directory requires
~36 MiB on ext3 filesystem with 4-KiB block)
Alas, it failed to compile out-of-the-box on my Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 amd64 setup that I have for porting and testing. [3] Version 6.4 and 6.9
also failed with the same error; but version 6.10 (circa January 2008)
did compile:
[-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 12 lines --]
On 2021-11-11 05:11, xwindows wrote:
Understandable. [2] On a tangent note: I also did few quick web searches
for SHA-2 utility that works on 16-bit DOS and haven't found anything
useful. (The old GNUish project seemed to provide just MD5 checksum utility >> apparently) I'll have to take care of that someday.
Long live vintage computers,
~xwindows
On my Mac, I use shasum, a preinstalled command line utility written in Perl. Looking at the code it says "Try to figure out if the OS is DOS-like.", so it might work.
Actually I was just being lazy to be honest. I already built
current coreutils rexec (which _nobody_ packages anymore :( )
BQBZRGRE
That's the thing that tells you how far you'd travelled
before your speedometer died :)
YBPXOBK
PUBCFGVPXF
I can't use them
(actually based on ROT13-encoded evidence it looks a lot like I
can't spell them).
FPVFFBEF
I knew I'd get hooked if I let myself get started on these
DHVYY
But for the checksum I'd have said
PuTTY also supported Linux and it compiled with no fuss at
all ('plink' is the command-line utility).
Actually I was just being lazy to be honest. I already built
current coreutils rexec (which _nobody_ packages anymore :( ) for
this circa 1996 Pentium 1 (running Linux kernel 2.4, though a
current Linux kernel will run if you put the work in),
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021, The Free Thinker wrote:
PuTTY also supported Linux and it compiled with no fuss at
all ('plink' is the command-line utility).
I know PuTTY works under GNU/Linux (I have used its GUI version semi-regularly
in the past), and I'm aware of the existence of this mysterious `plink` command from the same package which my desktop's Run dialog kept auto-suggesting me every time I mistyped the name of text editor I use. [1]
But I have no idea until now that it is a multi-protocol analog
of command line SSH/Telnet/Rlogin client. I'll have to try it out sometimes.
Actually I was just being lazy to be honest. I already built
current coreutils rexec (which _nobody_ packages anymore :( ) for
this circa 1996 Pentium 1 (running Linux kernel 2.4, though a
current Linux kernel will run if you put the work in),
Actually, I happened to have an old ZipSlack 11 installation stashed somewhere deep in my backup partition (GNU libc 2.3.6, Linux kernel
2.4.33.3 [i386] +ELF support, UMSDOS filesystem on FAT32, LOADLIN-booted).
Experimenting on it is already on my TODO list, so I `dmsetup` it read-only, jerry-rigged its block device into a VirtualBox immutable image,
spun it up, and compiled the utilities on tmpfs for you. Although,
not sure which version of GNU libc you have, so static-linked builds
are also here just in case:
- Dynamically linked to system's GNU C Library (2.3.6 or compatibles):
http://tilde.club/~xwindows/temp/2021-11-15/coreutils-6.10_sha2.i386.tgz
[ 226 KiB ]
- Statically-linked with GNU C Library 2.3.6:
http://tilde.club/~xwindows/temp/2021-11-15/coreutils-6.10_sha2.i386.static.tgz
[ 1.15 MiB ]
- Legal notice, source links, build instruction, and checksums:
http://tilde.club/~xwindows/temp/2021-11-15/index.html
P.S. Transferring multi-megabytes files through 115200 baud serial port between VM and host gave me too much a feel of my early ADSL days.
Maybe I should find some time to look into a faster
Direct-Cable Connection (TM) via LPT port, which I hadn't got a chance
to do in its heyday.
fnsr
zrqny
have you bitten it yet?
CNQYBPX
I recently inherited my grandfather's 'collection'
(about six in an old tin), including a brass one of the older
sort:
` '.
,_./
| |
\i/ 0---n
On Sat, 13 Nov 2021, ~unbeatable101 wrote:You've never heard of people biting gold medals to see if they are real
have you bitten it yet?
Er... what?
~xwindows
snhprg
scarcely seen by that name here in Australia
Looks like a ball valve type.
Someone's messing with me here :)
named by obscure, though perhaps more authentic, preference
Rgurecubar
cubabtencu
It looks like I made a mistake when sending the word on stdout, I used
echo instead of printf. When I used printf, the checksum matched.
glcrjevgre
pbbyre
ZBAVGBE
The stand at the bottom looks to me more like
the sliding part of a microfiche viewer, with the enlarging
screen above.
wbheany
FGBCJNGPU
I thought it was a gas bottle with a bomb and count-down detonator attached
A FGBCJNGPU doesn't usually have an hours count
on the main display though.
On Sun, 2 Oct 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
The drawing is:
____----____
,` (--) .
|`-----__-----`| \________
,`~|#|#|#|#|#|~, \ #|#|#|#|
`-----__-----' ~~~~~~~
A different take on the same word //SVYZ// that I happened to remember
being used once in an older challenge. [1]
Though, this one looks like a big roll which is normally used
for projecting or recording moving stuff; rather than
a small cassete which is normally for storing standstill
optical impressions using consumer equipments.
Better yet, for this challenge you even get a prize...
The XPM-format bitmap that I based the drawing on
On Sun, 2 Oct 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
The XPM-format bitmap that I based the drawing on
This looks as if it was an icon that came with media player software
or something alike; I'm curious, which software that the icon came with?
qevyy
not sure if it's a corded or cordless one though
i would guess that's a corded one with the cord omitted
IH ZRGRE
The one I've got pulsing away next to me looks nothing like those
though. It's a 3D spiral of 64 green LEDs meant to form a Christmas
tree shape, which 'grows' taller in the dark as the music gets
louder. But building it turned out to be far too much work to only
look at over Christmas, so it sits here at this desk all the
time.
Parallel Port
except that the checksum is wrong for PARALLELPORT.[...]
Short of going down the rabbit hole of _all_ the roles that a 25
pin D-type connector has been assigned to over the years (an
endless task for sure), I think I'll first query the accuracy of
that checksum
XVGR
Star shaped?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
IH ZRGRE
That's right!
The one I've got pulsing away next to me looks nothing like those
though. It's a 3D spiral of 64 green LEDs meant to form a Christmas
tree shape, which 'grows' taller in the dark as the music gets
louder. But building it turned out to be far too much work to only
look at over Christmas, so it sits here at this desk all the
time.
Wow, is that really full 64 levels presentation, or each single level
drives multiple LEDs?
Is it representing single channel or using L+R sum?
Is it fully analog-controlled or ADC+microcontroller-based?
Does it use weird ASIC or simply chains of old-school LM3914/LM3915/LM3916?
I think I have a schematic and build instruction for something like this
in a book somewhere in my home, but it's was a simpler 2D VU arranged
as a ray shining in 12-or-so direction from a center dot; soldered on
a single PCB. Never really built that one myself though.
I'm really curious what yours looked like.
Well I certainly can't draw it in ASCII, so I found some photos
of it and put them here:
gopher://aussies.space:70/1/%7efreet/photos/vu_tree/
Choosing to have the wires stick through holes in a
conductive metal tin certainly didn't make things any easier
either. I _really_ won't be making another one. :)
A LM3915 for the VU. The other tricks are done with 7400 series
logic, based on this design which was my original inspiration: http://www.pyroelectro.com/projects/christmas_tree_digital_hardware/
I added the VU function
On 9 Nov 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
Well I certainly can't draw it in ASCII, so I found some photos
of it and put them here:
gopher://aussies.space:70/1/%7efreet/photos/vu_tree/
Thank you. (Now I feel grateful of the fact that I also have a Gopher
plugin on my main graphical browser) Though... I'd confess that my first impression of photos made me think of a Spirulina cell rather than
a Christmas tree. But wow, that's a lot of bare leads in close proximity; tricky to build for sure.
For the video... the music volume doesn't seem to make it very obvious,
but I saw blips of light higher in the coil now and then; I get the idea.
Choosing to have the wires stick through holes in a
conductive metal tin certainly didn't make things any easier
either. I _really_ won't be making another one. :)
The base of the build was seriously a metal cookie tin!?
But... how did you manage to insulate the bit that passed trough each hole? It wasn't very obvious on the photos; did you use a 1[.5]mm heat shrink, plastic straws, glue drop, or a bit of insulated wire poking through
to be soldered above the lid?
A LM3915 for the VU. The other tricks are done with 7400 series
logic, based on this design which was my original inspiration:
http://www.pyroelectro.com/projects/christmas_tree_digital_hardware/
Thank you for the link. Though, if I was to build one, since the whole thing was a big 64-bit shift register; I would probably have the "bits source" and "shift clock" wired to either an RS-232 converter (difficult)
or SPI bitstream (easy), and try to program some "interesting" pattern
using a PC or microcontroller. (Technically, that could turn it into
a full 64-level VU meter too; and much more)
But it being analog-controlled has a different feel to it of course.
I added the VU function
I suppose you added it by wiring each LM3915's output in bar mode
as the "common" pin of each 8-bit LED set? (Either directly or
with buffer gate/transistors I think)
Anyway, I think it might be more "exciting" (in Clive Mitchell's sense)
if one did that using neon indicators. It will be very tricky to drive
(8 triacs minimum) and isolate for sure, and that amount of bare leads
would make a spectacular light show if any one of them short-circuited...
But I'm talking crap now; really, don't do what I just said.
CBFGOBK
SVFUVATEBQ
CBFGOBK
SVFUVATEBQ
puevfgznf gerr
I'm pretty sure it's a maritime ship launching a space ship
but I can't make that fit.
SNOWMAN
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
SVFUVATEBQ
That's correct!
Cheers,
~xwindows
snvel yvtugf
Thanks for doing these BTW, they're fun.
bireurnq cebwrpgbe
I wonder whether being a little bit past the first flush of youth is
helpful here?
I remember these being in common use but I'd have guessed
they must be about extinct by now?
My time at school spanned the period between common use to sitting
in cupboards all over the place gathering dust. I expect all of
those have been disposed of by now.
gevcbq
not from Mars I hope.
crevfpbcr
FBYQREVATVEBA
Poison me with fumes,
NAGRAAN
You meant those fictional ones from H.G. Wells' "The War of the
Worlds",
[1] "UNEXPLAINED 'Tripod' Object In Mars Rover Image Hidden By NASA?"
[2016-01-19]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcUvehkMuQ
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022, The Free Thinker wrote:
Poison me with fumes,
Technically, that's just rosin flux fumes, but it can be
irrating nonetheless; unless I got a proper soldering fumes extractor (nope!), or a fan (yep!) to blow them in a different direction.
I work on my electronics projects in open-air environment,
so fumes buildup is not much a problem.
ENQVB
With a cassette player as well, by the looks of it.
sbhagnva cra
ZNC
OEBBZ
SYHBERFPRAGGHOR
QVR
Wait, why is everyone looking at me funny?
Neat 3D effect, by the way.
NYNEZPYBPX
ZRZBELPNEQ
Oh boy, there was I thinking of all the different types
PUNVE
ABMMYR
OYRAQRE
Creative use of the dollar-signs!
iraqvat znpuvar
OBBGF
unless maybe they're gumOBBGF (as called in Australia).
On Sun, 15 Jan 2023, The Free Thinker wrote:
The drawing is:
Didn't that look familiar... [1] oh, wait.
Subject is an object, one word *5* letters.
That is a //INHYG//, looked from outside.
From the size of handle,
it's probably ranging somewhere from the size of walk-in closet,
to a smaller room, I guess?
I can't even look back that far because my news reader is set to
only download the latest 500 headers,
but somehow we seem to be
running out of objects in the world for this! :)
GENSSVP YVTUG
and a much more stylish one
FCBBA
GVFFHRCNCRE
"Hardy's Toilet Paper", a brand that somehow hasn't lasted.
OBBXPNFR
That's what got me, I'm used to wrestling much larger ones around
and through doors.
I was actually thinking of something even more antiquated now:
encyclopedia.
GBBGUOEHFU
genssvp pbar
I'd thought it either some kind of cake
or a device for lifting heavy objects
jnyy jneg
I'd thought that was paper coming out.
I'm curious, what were the devices you had been thinking of
when seeing this ASCII drawing? I could imagine some of
wall-sticking devices having (printed/stamped/punched)
paper strip flowing out like that, but I'm not sure
of the name(s) of such devices to search for.
gler
Whoooooooooossssssh~ *click*
That's the sound of a clickin' right answer!
BIRA
FLEVATR
ZBGBE
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