• Up, Up, and away, in my..

    From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to ALL on Fri Feb 3 15:59:00 2023
    ...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!

    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they
    mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined
    it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it wafted across the US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up
    to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it might "fall and hurt someone."

    Now, Montana is a very large and very sparsely populated state. Some of
    the states it would have had to have crossed through to get to its current position (apparently over Kansas City, MO) are also very sparsely
    populated. Plenty of opportunity to shoot it down and have it likely not
    fall on anything, except a corn field or a former government missle silo
    site.

    Now that they've waited until it is over more populated areas, they are going to let it continue its flight across the country, until it reaches the Gulf
    or the Atlantic or falls down on its own rather than shoot it down.

    So, if you live in its path, you might want to go outside and give the
    Chinese government something to look at. :(

    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they did right
    before 9/11.


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Mike Powell on Fri Feb 3 18:32:00 2023
    Hello Mike!

    ** On Friday 03.02.23 - 15:59, you wrote to ALL:

    ...beautiful, my beautiful... Chinese Spy Balloon!!!

    [...]

    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they
    did right before 9/11.


    I heard that it is well above airline flight paths, so it's not
    deemed to be dangerous - and not worth shotting down, yet.
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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to August Abolins on Fri Feb 3 19:54:09 2023
    To: August Abolins
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: August Abolins to Mike Powell on Fri Feb 03 2023 06:32 pm


    I heard that it is well above airline flight paths, so it's not
    deemed to be dangerous - and not worth shotting down, yet.

    everything's worth shooting down that doesn't belong in our airspace.

    that's why the whole world sees us as pussies now.
    we have mr magoo the pants shitter who goes to bed at 7pm
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to August Abolins on Sat Feb 4 04:24:34 2023
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: August Abolins to Mike Powell on Fri Feb 03 2023 06:32 pm

    I heard that it is well above airline flight paths, so it's not
    deemed to be dangerous - and not worth shotting down, yet.

    The problem with these things is that if you do nothing about it, you end up looking like a pushover. Next time they will do something that actually matters to you.

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Arelor on Sat Feb 4 08:41:00 2023
    Hello Arelor!

    The problem with these things is that if you do nothing
    about it, you end up looking like a pushover. Next time
    they will do something that actually matters to you.

    Well.. at least it was detected. But I am surprised that if
    they can send rockets to land on comets, why can't it be
    possible to send something with a camera to fly by or even
    attach to that thing and pull it down?

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Arelor on Sat Feb 4 11:39:24 2023
    Arelor wrote to August Abolins <=-

    The problem with these things is that if you do nothing about it, you
    end up looking like a pushover. Next time they will do something that actually matters
    to you.

    Biden's China's bitch so he'll do whatever his paymasters tell him to do or
    not to do, as the case may be.

    - Sean

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to August Abolins on Sat Feb 4 11:42:08 2023
    August Abolins wrote to Arelor <=-

    Well.. at least it was detected. But I am surprised that if
    they can send rockets to land on comets, why can't it be
    possible to send something with a camera to fly by or even
    attach to that thing and pull it down?

    China's been doing this for years but no one has the balls to shoot down a Chinese balloon that's violated their airspace and send the pieces back to China C.O.D....

    -- Sean


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sat Feb 4 11:07:00 2023
    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they
    did right before 9/11.

    I heard that it is well above airline flight paths, so it's not
    deemed to be dangerous - and not worth shotting down, yet.

    Except that it is in our airspace and presumably gathering some sort of information, and now there are two of them.

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sat Feb 4 11:06:00 2023
    Well.. at least it was detected. But I am surprised that if
    they can send rockets to land on comets, why can't it be
    possible to send something with a camera to fly by or even
    attach to that thing and pull it down?

    Especially with it moving relatively slow compared to airships with their
    own propulsion (sp?). From the path it is taking, I am guessing it is following the jet stream.

    I suspect it was detected by civilians because many folks in areas where
    the skies were going to be clear were probably getting ready to look for
    the comet and then noticed they could see something in daylight. I suspect
    it was only reported publicly because civilians saw it.

    Mike

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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to Mike Powell on Sat Feb 4 14:46:56 2023
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: Mike Powell to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sat Feb 04 2023 11:07 am

    From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_DEBATE

    Our government seems as clueless, and vulnerable, as they
    did right before 9/11.

    I heard that it is well above airline flight paths, so it's not
    deemed to be dangerous - and not worth shotting down, yet.

    Except that it is in our airspace and presumably gathering some sort of information, and now there are two of them.


    it actually shut down airports, as well.
    it flew over sensative areas where we have nuclear missle sites.
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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Jas Hud on Sat Feb 4 18:11:07 2023
    Jas Hud wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    it actually shut down airports, as well.
    it flew over sensative areas where we have nuclear missle sites.

    They finally shot it down after it went over the entire US...

    -- Sean

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Sat Feb 4 18:02:00 2023
    Except that it is in our airspace and presumably gathering some sort of information, and now there are two of them.

    it actually shut down airports, as well.
    it flew over sensative areas where we have nuclear missle sites.

    Yes, I heard that it had got some flight cancelled.

    Mike

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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to digimaus on Sat Feb 4 19:37:55 2023
    To: digimaus
    Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: digimaus to Jas Hud on Sat Feb 04 2023 06:11 pm

    From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_DEBATE

    Jas Hud wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    it actually shut down airports, as well.
    it flew over sensative areas where we have nuclear missle sites.

    They finally shot it down after it went over the entire US...

    -- Sean

    black tom cruise did it during black history month!

    wooo usa usa biden biden

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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Feb 5 00:40:00 2023
    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they
    >mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined
    >it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it wafted across the
    >US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    Not sure if you have since gotten more of this story but Canada was aware of this spy balloon heading towards the USA for several days and had informed
    your gov't of its existance, not to suggest your people would not have seen
    it just as quickly once it entered your air space..

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up
    >to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it might "fall
    >and hurt someone."

    And it has since been shot down..

    China was not amused that their 'Weather Balloon' which drifted off course (from China?) was destroyed rather than allowed to return home with, one assumes, a prediction of coming weather - possibly getting Hot in China. B)

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to ROB MCCART on Sun Feb 5 09:38:00 2023
    So this morning I am watching the local news (NBC affiliate), and they
    >mention that a UFO was sighted over Montana and US officials had determined
    >it was a spy balloon, likely from China. Apparently it wafted across the
    >US-Canadian border sometime mid-week.

    Not sure if you have since gotten more of this story but Canada was aware of this spy balloon heading towards the USA for several days and had informed your gov't of its existance, not to suggest your people would not have seen it just as quickly once it entered your air space..

    I don't doubt that Canada told our government, but it did not become public knowledge until civilians spotted it. That makes me wonder how often it happens.

    They also said that the decision on what to do about it went all the way up
    >to President Biden, who said we couldn't shoot it down because it might "fa
    >and hurt someone."

    And it has since been shot down..

    Only after it had made its way all the way across the US. :)

    China was not amused that their 'Weather Balloon' which drifted off course (from China?) was destroyed rather than allowed to return home with, one assumes, a prediction of coming weather - possibly getting Hot in China. B)

    The Pentagon eventually confirmed that it was launched from mainland China,
    so that is where it is from. I am guessing it only got shot down, after crossing the US, because the public knew about it. Otherwise China may
    have eventually gotten it back.

    The Pentagon also says it was a spy balloon. What would be ironic would be
    if it really was some sort of weather balloon that was being tested to see
    if it would make it all the way back to China after circling the globe. I doubt that is the case but it would be ironic.

    I am sure it was reporting back plenty of data until the point where it got shot down.


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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 5 12:46:56 2023
    I am sure it was reporting back plenty of data until the point where it got shot down.

    It was deliberately shot down in waters too deep for retrival of debris. Creepy Joe would never betray his masters.

    -- Sean


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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to Rob Mccart on Sun Feb 5 17:47:18 2023
    To: Rob Mccart
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: Rob Mccart to MIKE POWELL on Sun Feb 05 2023 12:40 am


    China was not amused that their 'Weather Balloon' which drifted off course (from China?) was destroyed rather than allowed to return home with, one assumes, a prediction of coming weather - possibly getting Hot in China. B)

    "Foreign Ministry condemns use of force as `clear overreaction'"

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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to digimaus on Sun Feb 5 17:52:36 2023
    To: digimaus
    Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: digimaus to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 05 2023 12:46 pm

    From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_DEBATE

    I am sure it was reporting back plenty of data until the point where it got shot down.

    It was deliberately shot down in waters too deep for retrival of debris. Creepy Joe would never betray his masters.


    " In addition to its maneuverability, the surveillance balloon differs from a typical weather balloon in other ways, according to the Weather Channel. First, it has been airborne for days, but weather balloons typically remain up for only a couple of hours. The Chinese balloon is also roughly the size of three buses, whereas weather balloons typically expand to only about 20 feet across."

    whats strange is they knew they were going to shoot it down. why not
    have the salvage operation there to get it. instead they had to GO there and that took some time. and the recovery is supposed to take days.
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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Jas Hud on Sun Feb 5 19:49:09 2023
    Hello Jas,

    05 Feb 23 17:47, you wrote to Rob Mccart:

    shooting down an unmanned invader is probably the protocol for all countries.

    They know damn well that if another country tried to do that in Chinese airspace, they'd shoot it down. China Joe just let the Chinese take pictures of all of the military bases in the balloon's path as a courtesy to his paymasters.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Jas Hud on Sun Feb 5 19:50:50 2023
    Hello Jas,

    05 Feb 23 17:52, you wrote to digimaus:

    whats strange is they knew they were going to shoot it down. why not
    have the salvage operation there to get it. instead they had to GO
    there and that took some time. and the recovery is supposed to take
    days.

    Everything for China Joe's paymasters.

    -- Sean

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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 5 19:55:57 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Sun Feb 05 2023 07:49 pm

    From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_DEBATE

    Hello Jas,

    05 Feb 23 17:47, you wrote to Rob Mccart:

    shooting down an unmanned invader is probably the protocol for all countries.

    They know damn well that if another country tried to do that in Chinese airspace, they'd shoot it down. China Joe just let the Chinese take pictures of all of the military bases in the balloon's path as a courtesy to his paymasters.


    they would shoot it down BEFORE it entered their airspace.
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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 5 21:38:00 2023
    Hello Sean!

    They know damn well that if another country tried to do
    that in Chinese airspace, they'd shoot it down. China Joe
    just let the Chinese take pictures of all of the military
    bases in the balloon's path as a courtesy to his
    paymasters.

    I heard that the US military was busy jamming any radio
    emmissions from that thing.

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 5 22:36:46 2023
    Hello August,

    05 Feb 23 21:38, you wrote to me:

    I heard that the US military was busy jamming any radio
    emmissions from that thing.

    Supposedly but I'd not trust today's US military to do anything but preach wokeness let alone protect the country.

    -- Sean

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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 5 22:04:41 2023
    To: August Abolins
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: August Abolins to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 05 2023 09:38 pm

    bases in the balloon's path as a courtesy to his
    paymasters.

    I heard that the US military was busy jamming any radio
    emmissions from that thing.

    --

    i dont know how. they didn't have anything there in the vacinity.
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  • From Jas Hud@618:200/44 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 5 22:05:43 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
    By: Sean Dennis to August Abolins on Sun Feb 05 2023 10:36 pm

    From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_DEBATE

    Hello August,

    05 Feb 23 21:38, you wrote to me:

    I heard that the US military was busy jamming any radio
    emmissions from that thing.

    Supposedly but I'd not trust today's US military to do anything but preach wokeness let alone protect the country.

    -- Sean

    maybe next time it will sprinkle covid-20 on us.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Mon Feb 6 16:27:00 2023
    Supposedly but I'd not trust today's US military to do anything but preach wokeness let alone protect the country.

    There was some satire about this... that they had to figure out if it identified as a balloon before they could determine what to do to it. :)

    Mike


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