Hi everyone,
You can tell that midterm elections are near and the Democrats are
terrified because now suddenly COVID-19 cases are inexplicably rising
in numbers and our local health "experts" are recommending getting
the jab and wear those so-effecrive cloth masks.
Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
You can tell that midterm elections are near and the Democrats are
terrified because now suddenly COVID-19 cases are inexplicably rising
in numbers and our local health "experts" are recommending getting
the jab and wear those so-effecrive cloth masks.
Heh, I would expect politicians who are in office to downplay issues
and tell everything is fine, while the opposition does the opposite.
The panic is long over in Spain. Some people is trying to raise it back from the dead, but nobody gives a flying damn.
Heh, I would expect politicians who are in office to downplay issues
and tell everything is fine, while the opposition does the opposite.
The panic is long over in Spain. Some people is trying to raise it
back from the dead, but nobody gives a flying damn.
I can't go into work until I get a negative PCR test; apparently that
can take up to a month to get the remnants out of your system. I can't
go into work until then, but I do most of my work remotely anyways.
It's similar to why the "experts" can't figure out why monkeypox is
on the rise in a very tiny part of the population (promiscious
gay/bisexual men). It's as if the answer is right in front of them
but they just can't say it for some reason, LOL.
Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-
I was watching a local news program the other day. They were playing a national clip where someone pretty much just came out and said why.
Guess they didn't get the approved script that others have. :)
Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-
I was watching a local news program the other day. They were playing a national clip where someone pretty much just came out and said why. Guess they didn't get the approved script that others have. :)
There's good reasons why the US is the laughingstock of the world
right now.
--Sean
Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Out here, the local health community are saying not to get PCR tests
after you've had COVID since they can show being positive for three
months after infection but to get an antigen test instead.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
I've heard the same -- but my company policy requires a negative PCR
test to return to the office. I'm getting contradictory information, I
may be allowed to go in after an appropriate quarantine according to an interaction I had with someone in HR.
I've tested negative on rapid tests.
Not a major issue as my office is closed. The only times I go into the office are to do office maintenance, take out the trash, and check on
my server room - I have a dev environment of 60 servers running in a vSphere environment.
Oh, and downloading ISOs. We have a 900/900 internet circuit in an
empty office that's calling out for big day-long downloads. :)
I can't go into work until I get a negative PCR test; apparently that can take up to a month to get the remnants out of your system. I can't go
into work until then, but I do most of my work remotely anyways.
In the US, it's the same idiots that "voted" these people into office. Except in the case of Joe Biden and his administration, it's Big Pharma expecting their return on their bribes, I mean, investments.
Hey, at least the US is not Spain. Read: Spain pissed its main gas
provider by supporting a classical enemy of theirs in an issue we have no business being involved with, and as a result everybody who is not a paranoid prepper is going in for a surprise this Winter.
Except there are no real preppers in Spain. I am the closest thing I know and I
am kind of lame enough not to claim for the title XD
I have heard Germany has it worse because they have been shutting down
their own power production, and they are overly dependendant of third parties, to the point they are already begging for help.
ve for Covid if they had no symptoms. They were so short staffed from termina
ng medical professionals from not getting the shot, combined with the record h
h outbreak, they had a critical issue in delivering care.
One would think they would have re-hired the people they fired - especially si
e the shot does nothing.
Mike Powell wrote to MARK HOFMANN <=-
IMHO, it is some sort of payback for not getting the shot. I think you are right... for the time being, people who have both shots and at
least one bootser are still getting it. Keeping people off the payroll just because they didn't go along with it is counter-productive at this point.
Evidently some of those workers have exacted revenge where it hurts the most: the bottom line...
All the power issues could have been prevented by allowing increased supply a>investments in more nuclear power. There is still no better low cost source
IMHO, it is some sort of payback for not getting the shot. I think you are right... for the time being, people who have both shots and at
least one bootser are still getting it. Keeping people off the payroll just because they didn't go along with it is counter-productive at this point.
Evidently some of those workers have exacted revenge where it hurts the
most: the bottom line...
Other than the nuclear waste issues.. Probably the best is Hydro Electric power but few areas have ideal places to set that up. Zero pollution and we have Hydro plants in Canada that have been running virtually unattended for so
long that their output has to be converted from 25 cycle to 60 cycle power, something that was changed over to in the mid 1950's.
Also, as far as nuclear goes, there are stations that can be built that are so
efficient that they could use the waste from regular nuclear power plants to generate power, and Their waste is far less dangerous and lasts a fraction as long, but you won't find many of those simply because they cost more to build.
Other than the nuclear waste issues.. Probably the best is Hydro Electric power but few areas have ideal places to set that up. Zero pollution and
we have Hydro plants in Canada that have been running virtually
unattended for so long that their output has to be converted from 25
cycle to 60 cycle power, something that was changed over to in the mid 1950's.
It's sort of turning out that solar and wind are also only reliable and predictable in limited areas so there's no easy answer. Tidal generators that generate power both as the tide comes in and goes out (and the tides are fairly reliable) might be another 'clean' option on ocean coasts.
Also, as far as nuclear goes, there are stations that can be built that
are so efficient that they could use the waste from regular nuclear power plants to generate power, and Their waste is far less dangerous and lasts
a fraction as long, but you won't find many of those simply because they cost more to build.
They also mentioned that there was a reactor brought online as part of an>experiment out in Idaho that was the type that would shut itself down.
At least these days it is very easy to detect morons. I still see an occati
Hey, at least the US is not Spain. Read: Spain pissed its main gas provider by supporting a classical enemy of theirs in an issue we have no business being involved with, and as a result everybody who is not a paranoid prepper is going in for a surprise this Winter.
Except there are no real preppers in Spain. I am the closest thing I know and I
am kind of lame enough not to claim for the title XD
I have heard Germany has it worse because they have been shutting down their own power production, and they are overly dependendant of third parties, to the point they are already begging for help.
All the power issues could have been prevented by allowing increased supply
If things don't get moving in that direction soon, people are going to go br
I have never seen electricity costs rise as fast as they have this past 6-8
Oil has gone down some, but not electricity or natural gas.
- Mark
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IMHO, it is some sort of payback for not getting the shot. I think you
are right... for the time being, people who have both shots and at least
one bootser are still getting it. Keeping people off the payroll just because they didn't go along with it is counter-productive at this point.
Mike
All the power issues could have been prevented by allowing increased supp>investments in more nuclear power. There is still no better low cost sou
>power than nuclear.
Other than the nuclear waste issues.. Probably the best is Hydro Electric power but few areas have ideal places to set that up. Zero pollution and we have Hydro plants in Canada that have been running virtually unattended for long that their output has to be converted from 25 cycle to 60 cycle power, something that was changed over to in the mid 1950's.
It's sort of turning out that solar and wind are also only reliable and predictable in limited areas so there's no easy answer. Tidal generators tha generate power both as the tide comes in and goes out (and the tides are fairly reliable) might be another 'clean' option on ocean coasts.
Also, as far as nuclear goes, there are stations that can be built that are efficient that they could use the waste from regular nuclear power plants to generate power, and Their waste is far less dangerous and lasts a fraction a long, but you won't find many of those simply because they cost more to buil
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Other than the nuclear waste issues.. Probably the best is Hydro Electric power but few areas have ideal places to set that up. Zero pollution and we have Hydro plants in Canada that have been running virtually unattended for long that their output has to be converted from 25 cycle to 60 cycle power, something that was changed over to in the mid 1950's.
However, people lacking the means or the foresigh are going in for a bad ride. The fuel I purchased is already twice as expensiuve today than it
was when I got it, so the investment has already paid itself and
Apocalypse is not here yet. Sadly, not everybody has a backyard or pockets deep enough to stockpile supplies for the year in advance :-(
However, people lacking the means or the foresigh are going in for a bad ride. The fuel I purchased is already twice as expensiuve today than it was when I got it, so the investment has already paid itself and Apocalypse is not here yet. Sadly, not everybody has a backyard or pocket deep enough to stockpile supplies for the year in advance :-(
I did something similar with natural gas. I saw what was about to happen an
- Mark
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> > power but few areas have ideal places to set that up.Other than the nuclear waste issues.. Probably the best is Hydro Electri
A problem with hydro is that it requires the placement of dams, and that can>get... painful.
There is a bit of political drama these days because the North of Spain has>excedents of water, as a result of Franco's dam plans. Meanwhile, the South i
Gas is more popular in Urban areas where people just hooks up to the
city s gas supply lines. THat is very convenient, but you can t
stockpile that gas :-)
I've heard that a lot of places that went nuts putting up wind turbines have regretted it ever since. One area I recall built enough of them to supply 26 of their power needs, and had plans to build more, but once up and running t actual power generated was more like 10% and the cost of maintaining the system was so high they are basically waiting for them to wear out so they c tear them down.
Solar could, in theory, be reliable with little ongoing costs once up and running but the variations in sunlight and problems storing the power means you can't rely on it 100%. You have to have another source of power when conditionss are not the best, so it doesn't eliminate existing power station really, just lets them run at lower capacity more of the time. This, of course, ignores the pollution and materials supply problems in making the solar panels and batteries required to run the systems.
Gas is more popular in Urban areas where people just hooks up to the
city s gas supply lines. THat is very convenient, but you can t stockpile that gas :-)
Not all areas have access to natural gas lines directly to their home over h pump.
In our state, we get both electric and natural gas suppliers from anywhere i
I typically shop around and get the best pricing for electric and natural ga ing lots of benefits from doing that.
Last fall I saw what was going on and found the least expensive 3yr natural
I could find a long enough term on the electricity, so at this point I'm stu
- Mark
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Arelor wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-
I think the Spanish price for kwh is around 30 cents :-(
Heat pumps are actually quite ok... for niche applications.
I'd rather have diesel based heating when the winter gets bad, though.
I think the Spanish price for kwh is around 30 cents :-(
I could find a long enough term on the electricity, so at this point I'm stuc>ith the going rate here which is around 8 cents per kwh. I was paying 4 cent
Fotovoltaic used to be total trash. With the current price of electricity it>starting to make some sense to install it at home. Still, I have given the
Mark Hofmann wrote to Arelor <=-
Heat pumps might be good in southern states where it
doesn't get that cold. For really cold climates, they end
up running on auxilary electric heat and that costs a
fortune to run.
The main sources of home heating here is heat pumps, natural gas, oil, and p
Natural gas is very abundant and normally the least expensive under normal c
The home I grew up with had oil heat which was really nice and warm, too.
Heat pumps might be good in southern states where it doesn't get that cold.
My sister covered her garage roof with solar panels that feed back into the grid to save them a small percentage of their power costs. The panels cost them $80,000, make about half the power they were estimated to produce and have to be cleared of snow in winter. There are frequent equipment
failures, mostly with the computerized parts of the collection knocking out individual panels. Being into the grid there are no batteries involved.
It could be worse though. The power company sort of hates these things and has backed off promoting it as strongly by paying only about 40% as much to new people getting into it these days compared to what she is getting.
At $job we have an hybrid heat pump + natural gas system. During cold weather,
the heat pump works and, if the outside drops bellow operating temperature, natural gas kicks in. Durin summer, the heat pump gets its circuit reversed an
works as air conditioning.
Ha.. I know the Canadian dollar is a little lower than the $US but here
we have smart meters that charge power rates by the time of day you use
the power and during the day that rate is 17.0 cents per kwh, and has
been up close to that for years. Early evening and mornings are at 11.3 cents and the cheapest rate is overnight between 7pm and 7am at 8.2 cents per kwh.
My sister covered her garage roof with solar panels that feed back into
the grid to save them a small percentage of their power costs. The panels cost them $80,000, make about half the power they were estimated to
produce and have to be cleared of snow in winter. There are frequent equipment failures, mostly with the computerized parts of the collection knocking out individual panels. Being into the grid there are no
batteries involved.
The old saying, 'It seemed like a good idea at the time!' comes to mind..
In the winter, it does heat the apartment decently but is really
expensive to run. My average bill right now during the hot months is $75/month but in winter it can go to $110-$120/month which is not good considering I have a fixed amount on a low-income energy assistance grant[1], I tend to hide in the bedroom (the heat pump is mounted in a oil-filled radiator heater instead which is a bit spendy but I get
better results. Thanks to Biden's "0% inflation", TVA is adding on a
$15 fuel surcharge to my bill which means I'll lose a potential month's worth of service to extra fees caused by an incompetent and impotent administration.
>> has backed off promoting it as strongly by paying only about 40% as much toIt could be worse though. The power company sort of hates these things and
Well, at the very least, it sounds like they are probably getting lots of>complaints on them so I can see why they don't like them! :)
Oh, and to add insult to injury, that $10,000 a year estimate has worked out closer to $5000 a year for the power without taking repairs into account.
My sister covered her garage roof with solar panels that feed back into the grid to save them a small percentage of their power costs. The panels
cost them $80,000, make about half the power they were estimated to produce and have to be cleared of snow in winter. There are frequent equipment failures, mostly with the computerized parts of the collection knocking out individual panels. Being into the grid there are no batteries involved.
The old saying, 'It seemed like a good idea at the time!' comes to mind..
I have heard similar stories from friends of mine that have done the exact same thi
Not to mention that I hear the same thing from people. They don't get near the red
I just did a quick calculation. If you average bill is $350/month and even if the
- Mark
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Oh, and to add insult to injury, that $10,000 a year estimate has worked out
closer to $5000 a year for the power without taking repairs into account.
Which means, with the panels only lasting 10 or so years, you won't recoup the
investment, even without repair bills.
I feel similarly about electric lawnmowers. I got one. It was expensive. The battery alone was half the cost. The guarantee is only 5 years. It does not turn out to have the capacity to replace, only compliment, my gas mower.
If gas prices stay up near US$4/gal, or if it lasts a lot longer than 5 years, I might recoup the cost. It is brand new as of this Summer, so it
is not like it is an older one with older battery tech. I thought about buying another battery, which *might* help it replace the gas mower, but that is cost prohibitive in the sense that it would guarantee that I would never get my money back on it.
I *do* like it. It is easier to push, cuts well, and I have noticed that I breathe better while using it because I am not breathing any fumes.
Mike
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I agree it does not make much sense to place solar if your goal is to save money. You
can bank on the fact that the price of power is bound to rise (which is
not an unreasonable gamble) but such numbers are speculation.
My sister covered her garage roof with solar panels that
feed back into the grid to save them a small percentage
of their power costs. The panels cost them $80,000, make
about half the power they were estimated..
I just did a quick calculation. If you average bill is
$350/month and even if the $80k provided enough power
where your home would cost zero to run (highly unlikely),
it would take 19 years to recoup the costs.
Arelor wrote to Mike Powell <=-
You need to try the horse lawn mower. It works unatended so you can sit with a newspaper while it works in autopilot. When it is done, it
kisses you in the face.
August Abolins wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-
Plus.. to be totally off-grid, you'd probably want to add
batteries. Those would need to be replaced every 5 years or
so.
I envy people who can live off-grid. But the cost of entry
seems high.
I envy people who can live off-grid. But the cost of entry
seems high.
I feel similarly about electric lawnmowers. I got one. It was expensive.>The battery alone was half the cost. The guarantee is only 5 years. It
I *do* like it. It is easier to push, cuts well, and I have noticed that I>breathe better while using it because I am not breathing any fumes.
I envy people who can live off-grid. But the cost of entry> it. Lots of work to get there and I would imagine is well worth it in the e
seems high.
So do I. I have watched videos of people that have done it, and still are do
If you build from scratch to be off the grid it's not so
bad if you make certain allowances. A friend of mine built
a big ($1 million?) cottage on a lake with no road access.
He was told by the power company that it would cost him
$100,000 to have a line run to his place, even though he
was within 500 feet of power lines on the ground, but they
insisted on feeding him power under water instead of
burying lines or putting in a couple of poles..
It was more the principle of the thing than that he
couldn't afford it but he decided to tell them to stuff it
stay off of the grid instead.
He has some solar cells and he should have a wind
generator up by now and he's doing pretty well. Lighting
is by combination gas and 12v electric, lots of LED stuff,
and the fridge and stove, are propane rather than
electric. He has a bank of 20 acid batteries which cost
him about $2000 to store some power and a small gas
powered generator when he really needs 'normal' power for
things, but I was there a whole weekend and the only time
the generator was used was when his wife vacuumed the
place. His water system is gravity feed from a large
storage tank on a hill behind the cottage which is filled
from the lake using a gasoline powered water pump a couple
of times a day. Heating is mostly burning wood but there's
also some propane heat. It's primarily a summer place so
heating is less of an issue, although they have stayed
weekends there in winter as well.
He has some solar cells and he should have a wind generator up by now and he's doing pretty well. Lighting is by combination gas and 12v electric, lots of LED stuff, and the fridge and stove, are propane rather than electric. He has a bank of 20 acid batteries which cost him about $2000
to store some power and a small gas powered generator when he really
needs 'normal' power for things, but I was there a whole weekend and the only time the generator was used was when his wife vacuumed the place.
His water system is gravity feed from a large storage tank on a hill
behind the cottage which is filled from the lake using a gasoline powered water pump a couple of times a day. Heating is mostly burning wood but there's also some propane heat. It's primarily a summer place so heating
is less of an issue, although they have stayed weekends there in winter
as well.
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
My experience is with older electric mowers with cords. I found I had
to go over an area 2 or 3 times to get a decent cut, but I assume the newer ones work better. Corded ones have the 'no battery' advantage but you have to be careful not to run over the cord.. B)
Rob Mccart wrote to MARK HOFMANN <=-
If you build from scratch to be off the grid it's not so bad if you
make certain allowances. A friend of mine built a big ($1 million?) cottage on a lake with no road access. He was told by the power company that it would cost him $100,000 to have a line run to his place, even though he was within 500 feet of power lines on the ground, but they insisted on feeding him power under water instead of burying lines or putting in a couple of poles..
He was told by the power company that it would cost him
$100,000 to have a line run to his place, even though he
was within 500 feet of power lines on the ground, but they
insisted on feeding him power under water instead of
burying lines or putting in a couple of poles..
Maybe there were too many rocks or other trees enroute overland?
Underwater feeds are common to cottagers on many lakes.
It would be nice to have SOME power for some simple things like a water>pump and a phone charger.
He has some solar cells and he should have a wind generator up by now and he's doing pretty well. Lighting is by combination gas and 12v electric, lots of LED stuff, and the fridge and stove, are propane rather than electric.> on how everything was completed.
That sounds awesome! Really great to hear those success stories and the deta
Even having a place that is away from neighborhoods, etc, is nice to retreat> I have thought about buying a place near the mountains or something as a pla
Surprisingly not as many people as you might expect think I'm nuts. Most wish they could have done something similar.. B)
My friend above I have known since we both bought motorcycles in high school about 50 years ago. He and I went in totally different directions after school, him getting a telecom job and keeping it until he was in
his 60's even though, due to family inheritances, he could have retired
in semi-luxury much sooner. We get together now and then and he tends to introduce me to other friends of his as a bit of a curiosity, not in a
bad way, just in the spirit of me taking 'the path less traveled by'. I worked fairly hard and amassed a bit of a stake and then more or less disappeared into the woods, supposedly for a year or so originally, but
35 years later I'm still here..
Surprisingly not as many people as you might expect think I'm nuts. Most wish they could have done something similar.. B)
If you build from scratch to be off the grid it's not so bad if you>energy. I'm surprised, I've heard of more and more municipalities which are
make certain allowances.
(amazing description omitted for brevity)
That's a great setup, with self-sufficient non-well water and alternate
I worked fairly hard and amassed a bit of a stake and then more or less disappeared into the woods, supposedly for a year or so originally, but>re, I could see that becoming my main home very quickly. Especially when I e
35 years later I'm still here..
Surprisingly not as many people as you might expect think I'm nuts. Most wish they could have done something similar.. B)
That would be me, too. For instance if I bought a 2nd home in the woods some
I never say never as you never know what life will bring.
I was working to save up enough to quit working.. B)
I agree it does not make much sense to place solar if your goal is to sav money. You
can bank on the fact that the price of power is bound to rise (which is not an unreasonable gamble) but such numbers are speculation.
Historically, energy prices are cyclical and go up/down depending on supply/
That is why energy stocks are not a great "buy and hold". They go up, they d or less demand, those prices will drop. Oil inventories are already start
Since I can't build my own nuclear power plant or dam, I'll just keep findin
- Mark
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Hello Mark Hofmann!
** On Monday 15.08.22 - 16:00, Mark Hofmann wrote to Rob McCart:
My sister covered her garage roof with solar panels that
feed back into the grid to save them a small percentage
of their power costs. The panels cost them $80,000, make
about half the power they were estimated..
I just did a quick calculation. If you average bill is
$350/month and even if the $80k provided enough power
where your home would cost zero to run (highly unlikely),
it would take 19 years to recoup the costs.
Plus.. to be totally off-grid, you'd probably want to add
batteries. Those would need to be replaced every 5 years or
so.
I envy people who can live off-grid. But the cost of entry
seems high.
However, if it adds value to a property, then one might recoup
some resonable cost and achieve gains when one is ready to sell
and move into a retirement home or something.
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Arelor wrote to Mike Powell <=-
You need to try the horse lawn mower. It works unatended so you can sit with a newspaper while it works in autopilot. When it is done, it kisses you in the face.
I've also tried the goat lawn mower also but that model is especially
good with removing unwanted large blackberry brambles also. <G>
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I envy people who can live off-grid. But the cost of entry
seems high.
So do I. I have watched videos of people that have done it, and still ar> it. Lots of work to get there and I would imagine is well worth it in t
If you build from scratch to be off the grid it's not so bad if you make certain allowances. A friend of mine built a big ($1 million?) cottage on a lake with no road access. He was told by the power company that it would cos him $100,000 to have a line run to his place, even though he was within 500 feet of power lines on the ground, but they insisted on feeding him power under water instead of burying lines or putting in a couple of poles..
It was more the principle of the thing than that he couldn't afford it but h decided to tell them to stuff it stay off of the grid instead.
He has some solar cells and he should have a wind generator up by now and he doing pretty well. Lighting is by combination gas and 12v electric, lots of LED stuff, and the fridge and stove, are propane rather than electric.
He has a bank of 20 acid batteries which cost him about $2000 to store some power and a small gas powered generator when he really needs 'normal' power for things, but I was there a whole weekend and the only time the generator was used was when his wife vacuumed the place. His water system is gravity feed from a large storage tank on a hill behind the cottage which is filled from the lake using a gasoline powered water pump a couple of times a day. Heating is mostly burning wood but there's also some propane heat.
It's primarily a summer place so heating is less of an issue, although they have stayed weekends there in winter as well.
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I was always a hard worker, set a Canadian production record in one company, which got me threatened by the union, and in the next company I set a world production record (3 continents - no union), and I almost always was working 2 or 3 jobs at a time, ironically because I didn't
want to work. I was never working to get rich, I was working to save up enough to quit working.. B)
THe SPanish market is different, because Power Companies are the place
where retired politicians are parked. Politicians know they are likely to end up in a
Power COmpany, so they treat them really, really well, in order to ensure they are received there at the end of their political lives. It is very
hard to go wrong with Power stocks for that reason.
Also, I am more of a dividend investor myself. I understand the reasons
for non-dividend investments, but I need to know whatever I buy is
actually productive rather than something that promises growth but is not useful until you sell it :)
I was working to save up enough to quit working.. B)
That is the way to do it for sure!
I'd think that if you are running on solar mostly, your heating would not be>electric. Using electric power for heating is very expensive and inefficient
If I was really off-grid I'd use wood. The advantage of wood for heating is>that you can use it for coocking at the same time you heat the house.
The problem there can be, if you don't own your own wooded lot, the costs ca be pretty high. I used a wood stove 20 years ago and was getting wood for about $30 a face cord but these days that's up closer to $200. In cold weath a face cord might last you a week.. So most people who spend a lot of time cottages in winter have taken to getting large Propane tanks and running hea and cooking on that even if they have power to the house since it's generall cheaper to heat with gas than electricity.
> > be pretty high. I used a wood stove 20 years ago and was getting wood forThe problem there can be, if you don't own your own wooded lot, the costs
That is expensive. Last time I placed an order for high-density wood for>burning, it came for 300 bucks the 2 cubic metres. That said, I got a nice
I am still burning old furniture and barn furniture that has been horsed to>splinters, though.
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| Location: | Calgary, Alberta |
| Users: | 257 |
| Nodes: | 10 (0 / 10) |
| Uptime: | 35:09:33 |
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