• 75 yeaars for FOIA?

    From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to All on Thu Dec 9 13:33:08 2021
    From: https://tinyurl.com/4ap6de6z

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    FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years to Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data

    By Zachary Stieber
    December 8, 2021

    The Food and Drug Administration is asking a judge to give it 75 years to
    produce data concerning the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine, up 20 years from
    a previous request.

    The FDA told the court it can work faster than its previously proposed
    500-pages-per-month rate, but it also said there are more than 59,000 more
    pages than mentioned in an earlier filing.

    That discovery, and a desire to make sure it can work on other Freedom of
    Information Act requests at the same time, prompted the fresh request to
    the judge to allow production of roughly 12,000 pages by Jan. 31, 2022,
    and 500 pages per month thereafter.

    That timeline would take it until at least 2096, Aaron Siri, a lawyer
    working on the case, wrote in a blog post.

    "If you find what you are reading difficult to believe-that is because it
    is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans
    to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms, but yet
    refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure," Siri said.

    The case was brought on behalf of the Public Health and Medical
    Professionals for Transparency, which stated that the FDA wasn't complying
    with its request for data in a timely manner.

    The group includes Dr. Carole Browner, a research professor at
    the University of California-Los Angeles's David Geffen School of
    Medicine; Peter Doshi, an associate professor at the University of
    Maryland School of Pharmacy, and Dr. Harvey Risch, a professor of
    epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health.

    The group says the data should be made public quickly because the FDA
    spent just 108 days reviewing it before granting emergency use
    authorization to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

    The matter is more urgent because millions of Americans are being mandated
    to take the shot or face repercussions, such as a loss of access to
    businesses and employment termination.

    The Pfizer shot is the only one that has been approved by drug regulators.
    Approvals mean products have met a higher threshold of safety and
    effectiveness than those given emergency clearance.

    "The entire purpose of FOIA is government transparency. In multiple recent
    cases, in upholding the FOIA's requirement to `make the records promptly
    available,' courts have required agencies, including the FDA, to produce
    10,000 or more pages per month, and those cases did not involve a request
    nearly this important-i.e., the data underlying licensure of a
    liability-free product that the federal government requires nearly all
    Americans to receive," Siri said.

    "As the present pandemic rages on, independent review of these documents
    by outside scientists is urgently needed to assist with addressing the
    shortcomings and issues with the response to the pandemic to date."

    The FDA said its Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research maintains
    the records sought by the plaintiff but only has 10 staff members, and two
    of them are new, leaving them slower in processing pages than the other
    workers.

    Each line of each page must be reviewed to ensure proper redactions are
    applied, the filing states.

    Additionally, a faster rate than that requested would divert "significant
    resources away from the processing of other FOIA requests that are also in
    litigation," and requests that came in before the request in question, the
    agency stated. "In sum, FDA's proposed processing schedule is fair to
    plaintiff."
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Sean Dennis on Fri Dec 10 18:44:03 2021
    Re: 75 yeaars for FOIA?
    By: Sean Dennis to All on Thu Dec 09 2021 01:33 pm

    From: https://tinyurl.com/4ap6de6z

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    FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years to Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Da

    I had heard something about that.

    I have also heard that the relevant judge called bullshit on that and gave them a couple of days instead to comply, so they had to release some documentation, including some disfavorable reports from Pfizer's early trials.

    I don't know how accurate this information is since I have only heard it, though.

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Fri Dec 10 21:18:00 2021
    Hello Sean Dennis!

    ** On Thursday 09.12.21 - 13:33, Sean Dennis wrote to All:

    "If you find what you are reading difficult to believe-
    that is because it is dystopian for the government
    to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take
    its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harms,
    but yet refuse to let Americans see the data
    underlying its licensure," Siri said.

    It is good to hear someone else say that!


    The group says the data should be made public quickly
    because the FDA spent just 108 days reviewing it before
    granting emergency use authorization to the Pfizer-
    BioNTech vaccine.

    Another excellent statement to diffuse the stupid 500 page/mo
    limit.

    Each line of each page must be reviewed to ensure
    proper redactions are applied, the filing states.

    People are using the word "redacted" incorrectly! Redacted
    means "correcting, revising, changing". Instead, they should
    be using the term "censor".


    Additionally, a faster rate than that requested would
    divert "significant resources away from the
    processing of other FOIA requests that are also in
    litigation," and requests that came in before the
    request in question, the agency stated. "In sum,
    FDA's proposed processing schedule is fair to
    plaintiff."

    Well.. THAT's interesting. So.. the plaintiff is ok with the
    limited/gradual release of documents afterall?

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