Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I don't know if you are familiar with the Nazi (COVID) passports they
are trying to roll out. They are designed to track everything
the bearer does. This
means if you get the vaccine you get into the tracking machine, whereas those who don't take the vaccine stay out of the tracking machine. It makes no fucking sense.

Yes, I am familiar how Australia is turning into Nazi Germany. Sadly, the population has given away their rights to the government over the years and
now you can see the fruit of their efforts.

All over a fucking cold that can be treated with cheap, easily available
drugs but instead everyone was lied to in the name of power and profit,

A fun thing is that immunosupressed people seems to be screwed up with
the virus so much, vaccine or no vaccine, so I don't buy the "we would
be wasting an organ" argument.

I am immnocompromised and had COVID-19.

Within four days, I was fine.

It's all bullshit, if you ask me.

-- Sean

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Re: Re: Bats*it crazy Aussie
By: Sean Dennis to Arelor on Thu Dec 09 2021 12:38 pm

Yes, I am familiar how Australia is turning into Nazi Germany. Sadly, the population has given away their rights to the government
over the years and now you can see the fruit of their efforts.

Interesting statement, care to elaborate?


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Re: Re: Bats*it crazy Aussie
By: Deon George to Sean Dennis on Sat Dec 11 2021 09:59 am

Re: Re: Bats*it crazy Aussie
By: Sean Dennis to Arelor on Thu Dec 09 2021 12:38 pm

Yes, I am familiar how Australia is turning into Nazi Germany. Sadly, th population has given away their rights to the government over the years a now you can see the fruit of their efforts.

Interesting statement, care to elaborate?

...oEoN

The current Australian plan is to have everybody install a digital passport on their phone, and every "insecure event" install a scanneable code at entry.

Upon arriving at an event, you are supposed to run the digital passport against the scanneable. The passport application then reports to the relevant authorities where you are and when. In theory they have a cop or guard on entry so you can only go in if you swipe your passport and report your movements.

IN theory this allows the government to track people who has been infected. If somebody tests positive for the virus they can hunt down and quarantine anybody known to have been in contact with him in the last days.

There are many problems with this approach beyond the basic "mah privacy" stuff. The first one is that as only vaccinated people gets tracked, the mechanism is useless, unless you were to asume vaccinate people has non-trivial probabilities of getting infected anyway - in which case the passport is useless for other reasons.

The second problem is that this level of tracking can be used to produce loads of circumsptancial evidence. "·See, my political opponent was in to the same bar where that drug dealer was found. Surely he was doing shady drug deals!" The Citizen FOur documentary already made the case as to why something like a Metrocard can be used to build cases against people with such constructions, but with national tracking databases it just becomes sport.

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Thursday 09.12.21 - 12:38, Sean Dennis wrote to Arelor:

All over a fucking cold that can be treated with cheap,
easily available drugs but instead everyone was lied to in
the name of power and profit,

A fun thing is that immunosupressed people seems to be
screwed up with the virus so much, vaccine or no vaccine,
so I don't buy the "we would be wasting an organ"
argument.

I am immnocompromised and had COVID-19.

Within four days, I was fine.

It's all bullshit, if you ask me.

What say you about the folks that are claiming "long covid" -
the after affects such as loss of energy, loss of taste and/
smell, peristent headaches months after seemingly now
recovered?

There was a news report on one such person. This person is now
participating in some kind of study. The lead Dr running the
study still has no idea what these "long covid" people have in
common. I would bet that it is their obtaining the jabs AFTER
seemingly perceived to be recovered after their first bout of
covid, but the new report didn't go into further detail. I
recall a recommendation to people who have fought through covid
NOT to take the experimental jabs for the likelyhood that a 2nd
exposure to the same strain could make the symptoms worse.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Friday 10.12.21 - 18:53, Arelor wrote to Deon George:

The second problem is that this level of tracking can be used to produce loads of circumsptancial evidence. "┬╖See, my political opponent was in to the same bar where that drug dealer was found. Surely he was doing shady drug deals!" The Citizen FOur documentary already made the case as to why something like a Metrocard can be used to build cases against people with such constructions, but with national tracking databases it just becomes sport.

Citizenfour was an interesting surprise.

Did you see "Terminal F: Chasing Edward Snowden"? The way they
outsmarted the CIA was brilliant.
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Re: Bats*it crazy Aussie
By: August Abolins to Sean Dennis on Fri Dec 10 2021 08:46 pm

Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Thursday 09.12.21 - 12:38, Sean Dennis wrote to Arelor:

All over a fucking cold that can be treated with cheap,
easily available drugs but instead everyone was lied to in
the name of power and profit,

A fun thing is that immunosupressed people seems to be
screwed up with the virus so much, vaccine or no vaccine,
so I don't buy the "we would be wasting an organ"
argument.

I am immnocompromised and had COVID-19.

Within four days, I was fine.

It's all bullshit, if you ask me.

What say you about the folks that are claiming "long covid" -
the after affects such as loss of energy, loss of taste and/
smell, peristent headaches months after seemingly now
recovered?

There was a news report on one such person. This person is now
participating in some kind of study. The lead Dr running the
study still has no idea what these "long covid" people have in
common. I would bet that it is their obtaining the jabs AFTER
seemingly perceived to be recovered after their first bout of
covid, but the new report didn't go into further detail. I
recall a recommendation to people who have fought through covid
NOT to take the experimental jabs for the likelyhood that a 2nd
exposure to the same strain could make the symptoms worse.

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Spanish authorities are recommending people to take the jab around 10 days after beating COVID.

Then they wonder why there are conspiracy theorists doubting the authorities :-)

MRO at Dovenet says he experienced transitory focus/memory loss after beating the virus and he is not the sort who takes the jab. My aunt also suffered the effects for some months after beating it, before vaccines were available at all. If anything, I don't think "jab overdose" is the unique source of long term problems.

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Re: Bats*it crazy Aussie
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Fri Dec 10 2021 09:06 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Friday 10.12.21 - 18:53, Arelor wrote to Deon George:

The second problem is that this level of tracking can be used to produce loads of circumsptancial evidence. "┬╖See, my political opponent was the same bar where that drug dealer was found. Surely he was doing shady drug deals!" The Citizen FOur documentary already made the case as to wh something like a Metrocard can be used to build cases against people wit such constructions, but with national tracking databases it just becomes sport.

Citizenfour was an interesting surprise.

Did you see "Terminal F: Chasing Edward Snowden"? The way they
outsmarted the CIA was brilliant.
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I was not even aware that one existed. I will have to hunt it down. Thanks!

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Hello Arelor!

** On Saturday 11.12.21 - 03:44, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

Citizenfour was an interesting surprise.

Did you see "Terminal F: Chasing Edward Snowden"? The way they
outsmarted the CIA was brilliant.

I was not even aware that one existed. I will have to hunt it down.
Thanks!

It's a wild ride. They filmed interviews with the lead of the
CIA while the chase/capture event was happening. He says
something like "We'll get him now. He's trapped. We have the
means." But.. in a later interview he's embarassed and fuming
(in a don't show any emotion way.)
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Yes, I am familiar how Australia is turning into Nazi Germany. Sadly, the population has given away their rights to the government over the years
and now you can see the fruit of their efforts.

All over a fucking cold that can be treated with cheap, easily available drugs but instead everyone was lied to in the name of power and profit,

100% agree.

I am immnocompromised and had COVID-19.

Within four days, I was fine.

It's all bullshit, if you ask me.

Yup. You were fine along with the rest of the 99% of the population. I don't care if this was the black plague and was 99% deadly vs less than 1%. Still no reason for any mandates. People have the right to do as they choose and take responsibility for it.

These idiots that try to shame others for not getting the shot trying to say they are a public risk is complete crap. If the shot works, these morons should have nothing to worry about. They are so deep in fear they can't and refuse to see reality.

BTW, this is coming from someone that did get the shot - but only because I had no other real choise. That in itself is where the evil lives.

China learned they don't need to use nukes to work their control over the world. No one should be doing any business at all with the Chinesse government. I have nothing against the people of China.. I actually feel sorry for them.

- Mark

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