(And so it begins. This is a huge moneymaker worldwide for Big Pharma that have successfully brainwashed so many people [most under the age of 30]
about this unneeded vaccine. We have prophylactics like ivermectin and hydrochloroquinone but those are cheap, generic drugs that don't make
anyone money.)

From: https://tinyurl.com/2m278t8n (lifesitenews.com)

UK to roll out third `booster' dose of COVID-19 vaccine

Third "booster" dose will be offered in the UK this fall to "prolong" the
effect of the COVID vaccines, health authorities said.
Fri Jul 2, 2021 - 9:32 pm EST

Kenton Biffert By Kenton Biffert

LONDON, July 2, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) - Despite the increasing number of
fatalities and deaths among the most vulnerable after taking the COVID-19
vaccine, the UK is pushing them to take a third dose.

Prime Minister Boris Johnston's government announced in a press release on
June 30, 2021, that they have "welcomed the interim advice" of the Joint
Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) and will prepare to roll
out a booster dose of the vaccine this fall.

"We need to learn to live with this virus," stated UK Health and Social
Care Secretary Sajid Javid in the press release, "Our first COVID-19
vaccination programme is restoring freedom in this country, and our
booster programme will protect this freedom."

The goal will be to offer this booster vaccine to the "millions of the
most vulnerable" to "ensure the protection they have from the first and
second doses is maintained ahead of the winter and against new variants,"
the government press release added. The program would be a "2-stage
programme" that would coincide with the annual flu shot programme.

Johnston's comments on July 1, 2021, reported by The Scotsman, echoed
Javid's remarks on freedom. Speaking at a Nissan plant in Sunderland, he
said, "certainly, ... [for] everybody who is frustrated about travel over
the summer - double jabs will be a liberator."

People who have received the "two jabs," Johnston continued, will be "in a
much better position." The booster program in the fall for the vulnerable
he said, will "give us the extra insulation, that extra security that we
need."

The plan to add the third dose of the vaccine comes after the report by
the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) for the UK.
As of June 23, 2021, since the rollout of the vaccines in December, 439
cases reported side effects or "suspected adverse reactions (ADRs) to the
Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after
vaccination."

There have also been reported 936 ADR deaths for the AstraZeneca vaccine.
MHRA notes that "the majority of these reports were in elderly people or
people with underlying illness," but adds that the ADR remains a
"suspected" reaction and that they are not yet reporting a causal link.

The MHRA also reported:

* 395 incidences of blood clots with an 18% fatality rate between the
ages of 18-93

* 8 incidences of Capillary Leak Syndrome, "a condition where fluid
leaks from the small blood vessels into the body"

* A variety of menstrual disorders and unexpected vaginal bleeding (the
MHRA does not list the number of incidences)

* 102 incidences of Myocarditis and Pericarditis (inflammation of the
heart)

The MHRA concluded stating, "[a]ll vaccines and medicines have some side
effects. These side effects need to be continually balanced against the
expected benefits in preventing illness."

The UK is not the only country looking to add a booster dose of the
vaccine in the fall. Russia has recently announced its intentions for
continuous vaccinations. According to interfax.ru, "[a]fter Russia reaches
the level of collective immunity, vaccination should be carried out in a
`routine' planned manner ... it will be necessary to be re-vaccinated 12
months after the first vaccination."

Moscow health authorities, according to the Los Angeles Times, have
already started offering the booster shots with the "domestically
produced two-shot Sputnik V vaccine and its one-shot Sputnik Light
version."

The international movement towards a third jab follows the announcement of
Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla in March that the company is anticipating annual
booster shots. The development of booster vaccines is to address new
variants.

"Every year, you need to go to get your flu vaccine," Bourla said. "It's
going to be the same with Covid. In a year, you will have to go and get
your annual shot for Covid to be protected," Bourla told NBC News.

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Sunday 04.07.21 - 00:51, Sean Dennis wrote to All:

(And so it begins. This is a huge moneymaker worldwide for Big Pharma that have successfully brainwashed so many people [most under the age of 30] about this unneeded vaccine. We have prophylactics like ivermectin and hydrochloroquinone but those are cheap, generic drugs that don't make anyone money.)

[...]

Those drugs and a couple more [zinc?] are mentioned by this
doctor:

https://druthers.net/toronto-er-doctors-personal-testimony/

It's a slow process.. but there is less and less talk about the
benefits of living and eating healthily and the big pharma is
the only thing that will provide long healthy lives. Natural
immunity doesn't seem to count for anything anymore. But a
functional natural immunity *is* required for any vaxx to work!

I am so sick of hearing "the benefits outweigh the risks". It
is clear who the drugs benefit - pharma.

I am tired of people asking me "did you get YOUR shot?"
(emphasis mine). It's not MY shot. The last 3 conventional flu
shots that I received produced greater and greater reaction to
my body: inflammation and thrombosis at the injetion site,
inability to lift my arm above shoulder height, fatigue,
nausea, etc.. and that lasted over a week! I would be
concerned that a next shot (even if it is the non-mRNA one)
could even be worse. Why should I subject myself as the guinea
pig and/or take the risk to see what happens when experience
(my life-science) tells me that my body doesn't handle that
pharma shit too well?

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

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I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

Typical non-logical liberal mentality. If they have "their shot", why should they be concerned about your status and decision?

All I can say is this sure can brought lots of nuts out of the wood-work. I still see people driving around in cars with masks on and there has not been a mask mandate here for months. I'm betting there will be people still wearing masks for years. Fine with me, at least it is easier to pick out the ones with a screw loose now.

- Mark

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Re: Round three?
By: August Abolins to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 04 2021 07:38 am

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

I know of at least one guy who took his two Pfizers and is developing symthoms to what seems to be COVID-19 anyway.

In fact you can try and tell him that you don want to be with him because you are worried he is gonna pass it to you XD.

Zinc seems to be great but it is also a bit dangerous in big doses. I am having Zinc cycles myself but it is important not to take more than the recommended dose.

What I have read of Invermectine is that it is only effective in doses so high that they are dangerous themselves.

Don't forget to fulfill your vitamine D and B12 requerinments.


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Re: Re: Round three?
By: Mark Hofmann to August Abolins on Sun Jul 04 2021 09:49 am

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

Typical non-logical liberal mentality. If they have "their shot", why shoul they be concerned about your status and decision?

All I can say is this sure can brought lots of nuts out of the wood-work. I still see people driving around in cars with masks on and there has not been mask mandate here for months. I'm betting there will be people still wearin masks for years. Fine with me, at least it is easier to pick out the ones w a screw loose now.

- Mark

I have already posted somewhere that I believe that masks serve a purpose, but are not half as effective as they are rumored to be.

I wear masks myself for two reasons. The first is that if it can reduce the viral load I get from others, I welcome such reduction. The second one is that I sell masks and it would be VERY hypocrital from me to recommend them to my customers without wearing them myself :-)

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** On Sunday 04.07.21 - 10:58, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

I know of at least one guy who took his two Pfizers and is developing symthoms to what seems to be COVID-19 anyway.

Same reports here.. many people who have had all their doses,
are contacting covid, just the same.

In fact you can try and tell him that you don want to be with him because you are worried he is gonna pass it to you XD.

That's a good answer. Her comment just goes to show how
inculcated people have become into thinking that the vaxx
somehow prevents THEM from spreading anything to healthy me.

Zinc seems to be great but it is also a bit dangerous in big doses. I am having Zinc cycles myself but it is important not to take more than the recommended dose.

Do you know specific studies that show a clear benefit of
taking zinc to comabt covid? What I find are articles that
simply say "that there are no conclusive studies".

What I have read of Invermectine is that it is only effective in doses so high that they are dangerous themselves.

Never heard of Invermectine.

Don't forget to fulfill your vitamine D and B12 requerinments.

I take those in supplement (pill) form occassionally.

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August Abolins wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Those drugs and a couple more [zinc?] are mentioned by this
doctor:

I was given azithromycin and zinc by my emergency room doctor when I
had COVID-19. I think that, along with my taking an ACE inhibitor for
blood pressure, helped save my live and make my infection last for
about a week

https://druthers.net/toronto-er-doctors-personal-testimony/

It's a slow process.. but there is less and less talk about the
benefits of living and eating healthily and the big pharma is
the only thing that will provide long healthy lives. Natural
immunity doesn't seem to count for anything anymore. But a
functional natural immunity *is* required for any vaxx to work!

You are exactly right. If we were all healthy and eating right, we
wouldn't have to worry about all of these drugs and vaccines. I am not
saying we wouldn't be sick at all but we wouldn't be dying from the
treatment and not the disease.

I am so sick of hearing "the benefits outweigh the risks". It
is clear who the drugs benefit - pharma.

Yes and those who hold the patents to those drugs.

I am tired of people asking me "did you get YOUR shot?"
(emphasis mine). It's not MY shot. The last 3 conventional flu
shots that I received produced greater and greater reaction to
my body: inflammation and thrombosis at the injetion site,
inability to lift my arm above shoulder height, fatigue,
nausea, etc.. and that lasted over a week! I would be
concerned that a next shot (even if it is the non-mRNA one)
could even be worse. Why should I subject myself as the guinea
pig and/or take the risk to see what happens when experience
(my life-science) tells me that my body doesn't handle that
pharma shit too well?

I remember when I first went into the Army and was given a three-in-one
shot that included typhoid. I thought I was going to die from how sick
I was. I even went on profile (think of it as like paid sick leave)
for three days because of that damn shot.

It is amazing and terrifying to me that so many people are so willing
to be guinea pigs for an unproven and unauthorized gene therapy that
has no track record, no testing, and unknown consequences ... and that
they take everything the government and mass media say as truth and
gospel. It seems that younger Americans have been conditioned to take everything told to them as truth and do not have an iota of critical
thinking capacity. I am active on several forms of social media and
the obtuseness is astounding.

Now this crap about "variants" and how you'll have to get a COVID shot
every year, just like the flu. The hell with that.

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me that we
can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

It's not your fault that they believe a lie. People tell me that and I
tell them that I've had COVID; I don't need a damn shot.

At least some people are wising up to the BS though. I would rather
catch COVID-19 again and take ivermectin or hydroxychloroquinone and
get over it quickly than have a "shot". Too man people are dying of
strange problems after having that shot.

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Do you know specific studies that show a clear benefit of
taking zinc to comabt covid? What I find are articles that
simply say "that there are no conclusive studies".

I cannot give you any conclusive evidence but I strongly believe that the theraputic dose of zinc I was given (I can go back in my medical records and check on the exact dosage) did indeed reduce the time I was symptomatic when I had COVID-19.

What I have read of Invermectine is that it is only
effective in doses so
high that they are dangerous themselves.

Never heard of Invermectine.

Ivermectin.

Richard is talking about people self-dosing themselves with animal-dosed ivermectin. Human ivermectin is prepared differently and is a much potent formula so you can take it at lower doses. Ivermectin has been shown in small studies to be effective against COVID-19, however, expect any positive results to be pooh-poohed by the mainstream media and scientific communities as well as Big Pharma and the US government.

To wit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

The study's abstract:
"Ivermectin, a US Food and Drug Administration-approved anti-parasitic agent, was found to inhibit severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication in vitro. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial was conducted to determine the rapidity of viral clearance and safety of ivermectin among adult SARS-CoV-2 patients. The trial included 72 hospitalized patients in Dhaka, Bangladesh, who were assigned to one of three groups: oral ivermectin alone (12 mg once daily for 5 days), oral ivermectin in combination with doxycycline (12 mg ivermectin single dose and 200 mg doxycycline on day 1, followed by 100 mg every 12 h for the next 4 days), and a placebo control group. Clinical symptoms of fever, cough, and sore throat were comparable among the three groups. Virological clearance was earlier in the 5-day ivermectin treatment arm when compared to the placebo group (9.7 days vs 12.7 days; p = 0.02), but this was not the case for the ivermectin + doxycycline arm (11.5 days; p = 0.27). There were no severe adverse drug events recorded in the study. A 5-day course of ivermectin was found to be safe and effective in treating adult patients with mild COVID-19. Larger trials will be needed to confirm these preliminary findings."

There are several other studies linked with this one.

I take those in supplement (pill) form occassionally.

If you take Vitamin D, make sure you are in direct sunlight for 20-30 minutes so your body can properly metabolize the prohormone version of Vitamin D from the pill into actual Vitamin D it can use. I take 7000IU of Vitamin D3 daily to help with the swelling of my right foot due to Charcot foot. It does help a lot. It also helps me stay in a good mood too.

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Re: Round three?
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Sun Jul 04 2021 05:36 pm

Do you know specific studies that show a clear benefit of
taking zinc to comabt covid? What I find are articles that
simply say "that there are no conclusive studies".

It does not count as a "conclussive study", but some people around here who was put into intensive care and got as close to death as you can get, we started giving Zinc Gluconate 70 mg. The people with Zinc treatment is having an amazing recovery from Intensive Care when compared to the people without.

Keep in mind our sample is too small to be considered anything but anecdotic.

A doctor I work with sent me a link to a proper study regarding Zinc Gluconate specifically. Sadly, I lost the link and I don't remember the specifics. What I remember is that if you are losing your hair you are better off trying Zinc since it seems to counter many hair issues.

Invermertin is an anti-parasyte drug which you can get in different flavors, including apple. One of my mares loves this one: https://www.equimaxhorse.com/

The other hates it :-(

This thing is poisonous as a communist college professor, specially in the quantities shipped in boxes for horse use.

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Re: Round three?
By: Sean Dennis to August Abolins on Mon Jul 05 2021 12:05 am

To wit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

I have just forwarded the article to a doctor I work with, who might find it interesting.

I remember he looked into some early studies when invermectin was first talked about, and I also remember he told me that while the thing seemed to crush the virus, early data suggested the drug was worse than the virus even in controlled doses.

I agree Vitamin D works better with sunlight. Also, vit K + D is a good combo because it helps a lot with oseogenesis. I usually stock high quantities of a Vit D3+K2 combination precisely because of that in my store.


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I know of at least one guy who took his two Pfizers and is developing symthoms
to what seems to be COVID-19 anyway.

When did he take them? I have a friend who was considered "front line" so
she got hers in December and January, as did her co-workers. When I saw
her a month ago, she was telling me that some of her co-workers have since contracted COVID anyway. She believes the shot is effective as advertised,
but that we will probably need boosters every 6 months until if/when it
finally goes away.

IIRC, that is also what "they" were telling us at some point before I got mine... that we'd need to get a shot about every 6 months because they
didn't think the original was going to be effective that long. :(

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Re: Round three?
By: Mike Powell to ARELOR on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:42 am

I know of at least one guy who took his two Pfizers and is developing symthoms
to what seems to be COVID-19 anyway.

When did he take them? I have a friend who was considered "front line" so she got hers in December and January, as did her co-workers. When I saw
her a month ago, she was telling me that some of her co-workers have since contracted COVID anyway. She believes the shot is effective as advertised, but that we will probably need boosters every 6 months until if/when it finally goes away.

IIRC, that is also what "they" were telling us at some point before I got mine... that we'd need to get a shot about every 6 months because they didn't think the original was going to be effective that long. :(

Mike

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I'd have to ask him. I think he mentioned it was around May but I am not sure.

IMO if the vaccine only offers reasonable protection for 6 months it is not a good solution. I think they were talking about making it 3 doses instead of 2 which is starting to sound very fishy to me. It is like a car whose tank you have to refill every 3 miles. It is just not a working solution.

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I remember he looked into some early studies when invermectin was first talked about, and I also remember he told me that while the thing
seemed to crush the virus, early data suggested the drug was worse than the virus even in controlled doses.

I know a couple of people who were given ivermectin during their
COVID-19 infection and it seemed to help a lot. Today they're doing
fine.

I agree Vitamin D works better with sunlight. Also, vit K + D is a good combo because it helps a lot with oseogenesis. I usually stock high quantities of a Vit D3+K2 combination precisely because of that in my store.

I am careful with Vitamin K but it all helps!

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Sunday 04.07.21 - 14:01, Sean Dennis wrote to August Abolins:

Now this crap about "variants" and how you'll have to get
a COVID shot every year, just like the flu. The hell with
that.

They give each "significant" mutation a name, as if it somehow
legitimizes it as a serious threat out there. But the seasonal
flu mmutates too, yet they don't announce "variant" names for
THAT.

The season flu shot is just a guesstimate as well. One time
many years ago, I was told that that year's flu shot consisted
of 3 "guesses" in one shot.

I've already got a life-long family friend telling me
that we can't get together if I don't get MY shot. :/

It's not your fault that they believe a lie. People tell
me that and I tell them that I've had COVID; I don't need
a damn shot.

I also think that my friend is concerned that as a retailer
operating a shop and being exposed to so many strangers that I
am the one who could potentially transmit something to THEM.

But I dunno.. I've never had any symptom of cold or since my
last "flu" in Sep-Oct of 2019.

At least some people are wising up to the BS though. I
would rather catch COVID-19 again and take ivermectin or hydroxychloroquinone and get over it quickly than have a
"shot". Too man people are dying of strange problems
after having that shot.

Yes.. the repeat cases of covid in people who have either had
just one or their full doses will be interesting. I remember
the medical experts touting that having the shot may not
prevent you from getting sick with another variant, but it WILL
keep you out of the hospital - guaranteed. Even that is
proving to be false with cases of people ending up fighting for
their lives in a hospital after having the vaxx months prior.

I just learned of a case from an acquaintance that their mother
died shortly after receiving the shot during her stay in a
health-care facility. The mother was also undergoing
antibiotics for a common bladder infection for a person her
age. But the health-care facility gave all its residents the
shot WITHOUT family consent! What a foul-up. Early into this
vaxx program, I was hearing from medical "experts" that people
undergoing other treatments or if they have seriously
compromised immunune systems, should NOT take the shot.
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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Monday 05.07.21 - 00:05, Sean Dennis wrote to August Abolins:

If you take Vitamin D, make sure you are in direct
sunlight for 20-30 minutes so your body can properly
metabolize the prohormone version of Vitamin D from the
pill into actual Vitamin D it can use.

I've never heard of the requirement to be out in actual sun for
the D suppliment to take effect. I only heard that any vitamin
supp should be taken with food.

I take 7000IU of Vitamin D3 daily to help with the
swelling of my right foot due to Charcot foot. It does
help a lot. It also helps me stay in a good mood too.

I have a multi vitamin that has 50mcg of D3.

So, according to google: Vitamin D, 1IU = 0.025 mcg
.: 50mcg = 2000 IU

But I also have a separate bottle of D3 of 1000 IU.

That 7000IU seems quite a lot!

I rarely take the pills every day - only when I might feel a
bit spent of energy. I figure that my standard eating plan
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IMO if the vaccine only offers reasonable protection for 6 months it is not a good solution. I think they were talking about making it 3 doses instead of 2 which is starting to sound very fishy to me. It is like a car whose tank you have to refill every 3 miles. It is just not a working solution.

Supposedly, that is about how long the flu vax is really good for... long enough to get you through the major flu season. Then you take one again
a year later to cover you for the next ~6 months.

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I've never heard of the requirement to be out in actual sun for
the D suppliment to take effect. I only heard that any vitamin
supp should be taken with food.

Most vitamins, in the form they are sold, are worthless until your body processes the sold form, which is usually called a "pro-hormone", into
its activated form.

From: https://tinyurl.com/usnwhtpv (sciencefriday.com)

"Here's how it happens: Our skin naturally contains a precursor to
vitamin D. When the sun's ultraviolet rays touch the skin, they convert
the precursor to a molecule called vitamin D3, which then follows a
metabolic pathway through the liver and finally to the kidneys, where
it's converted into a molecule called calcitriol. That's the good
stuff-the active form. (Vitamin D obtained from food or supplements must
also follow that metabolic pathway to become active.)"

That entire page talks about the process in good detail. A recommended
read.

That 7000IU seems quite a lot!

It is a lot but I am not in "normal" health, either. Specifically,
Vitamin D3 helps with the constant, painful, and permanent swelling in
my entire lower leg and foot. It also has many other benefits.

I rarely take the pills every day - only when I might feel a
bit spent of energy. I figure that my standard eating plan
provides most everything.

Unless you are a perfect eater, no, your diet doesn't always give you everything. Now you need to eat right with supplements so they can
provide you with the benefits you need, of course.

I'm not a doctor but I can say that vitamins have helped me and continue
to help me. My doctor prescribes me Vitamin B12 and a B-complex
vitamin.

My only problem is that I can't afford all the supplements I need, such
as Co-Q-10 since I am on a statin[1]. I hope to soon be able to get
what I need.

Of course, trying to get myself into better shape will always help.

-- Sean

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Tuesday 06.07.21 - 01:21, Sean Dennis wrote to August Abolins:

Most vitamins, in the form they are sold, are worthless
until your body processes the sold form, which is usually
called a "pro-hormone", into its activated form.

From: https://tinyurl.com/usnwhtpv (sciencefriday.com)

Good article, but it doesn't say that the sun is needed after
taking supplements. It *does* say "Our skin naturally contains
a precursor to vitamin D."

After I take my supplements, it's usually at dinner/evening;
not much sun or need to be outside at that time. Sometimes I'll
take them in the morning, but then it's a short trip from the
house to the car, and from the car to my place of work indoors
most of the day.

"Here's how it happens: Our skin naturally contains a
precursor to vitamin D. When the sun's ultraviolet rays
touch the skin, they convert the precursor to a molecule
called vitamin D3, ...

What is that "precursor"? If it's always there, then the
supplements don't need the sun, do they?

That 7000IU seems quite a lot!

It is a lot but I am not in "normal" health, either.
Specifically, Vitamin D3 helps with the constant, painful,
and permanent swelling in my entire lower leg and foot.
It also has many other benefits.

The article also talks about too much D can cause calcium
build-up and kidney stones "and other problems", etc.

Unless you are a perfect eater, no, your diet doesn't
always give you everything. Now you need to eat right
with supplements so they can provide you with the benefits
you need, of course.

I went through a long process calculating calories, carbs and
vitamins as I progressed to a mostly plant-based eating plan.
It seemed that I was getting more than the recommended
quantities of vitamins, naturally.

I'm not a doctor but I can say that vitamins have helped
me and continue to help me. My doctor prescribes me
Vitamin B12 and a B-complex vitamin.

I am learning that many seniors are getting the B12 and B in
general as injections.

My only problem is that I can't afford all the supplements
I need, such as Co-Q-10 since I am on a statin[1]. I hope
to soon be able to get what I need.

Co-Q-10 is a pricey beast. $35+ for a modest bottle of the
stuff.

Of course, trying to get myself into better shape will
always help.

I'm not an athlete by any stretch of the imagination, but
changing the way I ate by eliminating processed foods and
sticking with whole foods made a world of difference in stamina
and overall energy. Then, as the pounds dropped, I continued
to feel better and better. Several "ailments" disappeared.

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