• John Cena: China's Bitch

    From Sean Dennis@618:618/0 to All on Tue May 25 17:57:35 2021
    (For someone who made his career being macho, when it comes to China, he sure is a bitch.)

    From:
    https://tinyurl.com/rx7ct8x (washingtontimes.com)

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    Actor John Cena makes groveling apology video to China after calling Taiwan a 'country'
    'I made one mistake,' the actor said. 'I love and respect China and Chinese people.'

    By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Tuesday, May 25, 2021

    Actor John Cena issued a video Tuesday apologizing to China and saying he "loves" the communist state after he made a "mistake" in recognizing Taiwan as a country while promoting his new film.

    Mr. Cena, who stars in the ninth installment of the "Fast & Furious" franchise, "F9," sparked outrage in China after giving an interview to Taiwanese broadcaster TVBS and saying in Mandarin, "Taiwan is the first country that can watch "F9," the New York Post reported.

    China does not recognize Taiwan's independence and considers the island part of its territory.

    Mr. Cena, who reportedly has studied Chinese for years, later issued an apology video on Weibo, China's social media platform, saying he "made a mistake."

    "Hi China, I'm John Cena. I'm in the middle of 'Fast and Furious 9' promotions. I'm doing a lot of interviews. I made a mistake in one of my interviews," the former WWE star said in Mandarin, according to the Post.

    "I made one mistake," he reportedly said. "I have to say something very, very, very important now. I love and respect China and Chinese people. I'm very, very sorry about my mistake. I apologize, I apologize, I'm very sorry. You must understand that I really love, really respect China and the Chinese people. My apologies. See you."

    Mr. Cena was ruthlessly criticized in the U.S. by both sides of the political aisle for the apology, with many critics tying it to China's ongoing genocide of its Uyghur minority.

    "The West's theory was that "opening" China to capitalism would undermine their authoritarianism. Instead, it strengthened their authoritarianism and undermined the West's willingness to fight it." https://t.co/CX7GR5YuNW

    -- Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 25, 2021
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Sean Dennis on Tue May 25 20:09:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to All <=-

    (For someone who made his career being macho, when it comes to China,
    he sure is a bitch.)

    Given the choice between sticking to your guns and working in Hollywood,
    ever again, I think he made a choice.

    Don't hate the player, hate the game.


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Wed May 26 13:50:00 2021
    Actor John Cena makes groveling apology video to China after calling Taiwan a 'country'
    'I made one mistake,' the actor said. 'I love and respect China and Chinese people.'

    I am glad I am not an actor or sports professional who feels like they need
    to kiss China's rear end every time they say something that is allegedly offensive. China's government is apparently worse than our "woke" citizens when it comes to being offended by everything.


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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Sean Dennis on Thu May 27 10:32:01 2021
    Re: John Cena: China's Bitch
    By: Sean Dennis to All on Tue May 25 2021 05:57 pm

    Actor John Cena makes groveling apology video to China after calling Taiwan a 'country'
    'I made one mistake,' the actor said. 'I love and respect China and Chinese people.'

    This one is really bad in my book.

    I get that the Chinesse are becoming great consumers of B-movies and that they are likely a big
    part of Cena's audience, but siding with the Communists in this one is a no-go.

    I am marking this guy as a non-watch from now on.

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Thu May 27 10:32:25 2021
    Re: Re: John Cena: China's Bitch
    By: Kurt Weiske to Sean Dennis on Tue May 25 2021 08:09 pm

    Sean Dennis wrote to All <=-

    (For someone who made his career being macho, when it comes to China, he sure is a bitch.)

    Given the choice between sticking to your guns and working in Hollywood, ever again, I think he made a choice.

    Don't hate the player, hate the game.


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    I just hate everybody. That works for me.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Mike Powell on Thu May 27 06:50:00 2021
    Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    I am glad I am not an actor or sports professional who feels like they need to kiss China's rear end every time they say something that is allegedly offensive. China's government is apparently worse than our "woke" citizens when it comes to being offended by everything.

    Rumor has it that the recent remake of "Red Dawn" had the Chinese invading America, but the government used the influence of one of the largest market for movies to have them change the antagonist to North Korea. Which makes no sense when you think about occupying the US.


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Fri May 28 09:28:00 2021
    I am glad I am not an actor or sports professional who feels like they need to kiss China's rear end every time they say something that is allegedly offensive. China's government is apparently worse than our "woke" citizens when it comes to being offended by everything.

    Rumor has it that the recent remake of "Red Dawn" had the Chinese invading America, but the government used the influence of one of the largest market for movies to have them change the antagonist to North Korea. Which makes no sense when you think about occupying the US.

    I doubt that NK could do it without someone's help, which would probably be China (or no one at all... not sure they'd even likely side with NK on many issues). I have not seen the original for YEARS but my recollection is that
    the invading force was somewhat ambigious beyond "Communists." IIRC, the
    first time I saw it I left assuming it was Russia and Cuba but was that actually spelled out in the movie?

    Mike

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 28 17:39:02 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Rumor has it that the recent remake of "Red Dawn" had the Chinese
    invading America, but the government used the influence of one of the largest market for movies to have them change the antagonist to North Korea. Which makes no sense when you think about occupying the US.

    I'd heard the same thing also and that was the same thought I had about
    North Korea invading the US. When it comes down to it, Hollywood will do anything and kiss the dirtiest ass for a buck.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Arelor on Sat May 29 20:39:13 2021
    Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I am marking this guy as a non-watch from now on.

    I saw someone call him "John Xina" online and I thought it to be very
    fitting.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Sean Dennis on Sun May 30 13:33:23 2021
    Re: Re: John Cena: China's Bitch
    By: Sean Dennis to Arelor on Sat May 29 2021 08:39 pm

    Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I am marking this guy as a non-watch from now on.

    I saw someone call him "John Xina" online and I thought it to be very fitting.

    Later,
    Sean

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    My mother was complaining yesterday about Hollywood in general. Mind you, Spanish film making has been junk for decades, and she spent a lot of energy defending Hollywood against snobs that said Spanish cinema was better than 'murican :-) So she is disappointed by the turn the industry is taking.

    She said we need a branch of alternative cinema that does not bend knee to this crap and only tries to entertain. Kind of like the old action movies of the 80s, which had no other pretension than being mindless fun. In her opinion (which she borrowing from me) we should not be consuming Hollywood material for as long as they use our money against us.

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Arelor on Mon May 31 13:12:49 2021
    Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    My mother was complaining yesterday about Hollywood in general. Mind
    you, Spanish film making has been junk for decades, and she spent a lot
    of energy defending Hollywood against snobs that said Spanish cinema
    was better than 'murican :-) So she is disappointed by the turn the industry is taking.

    Hollywood has always been very progressive; they just took pains to hide it. Now that the scab has been torn off, they don't care anymore.

    She said we need a branch of alternative cinema that does not bend knee
    to this
    crap and only tries to entertain. Kind of like the old action movies of the 80s, which had no other pretension than being mindless fun. In her opinion (which she borrowing from me) we should not be consuming
    Hollywood material for
    as long as they use our money against us.

    I haven't been to a movie theater in years. I get my entertainment online
    if you get my drift.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 1 06:30:00 2021
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    I doubt that NK could do it without someone's help, which would
    probably be China (or no one at all... not sure they'd even likely side with NK on many issues). I have not seen the original for YEARS but my recollection is that the invading force was somewhat ambigious beyond "Communists." IIRC, the first time I saw it I left assuming it was
    Russia and Cuba but was that actually spelled out in the movie?

    It was central American "communists" as a proxy with Russian backing and guidance.


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Wed Jun 2 15:48:00 2021
    I doubt that NK could do it without someone's help, which would
    probably be China (or no one at all... not sure they'd even likely side with NK on many issues). I have not seen the original for YEARS but my recollection is that the invading force was somewhat ambigious beyond "Communists." IIRC, the first time I saw it I left assuming it was Russia and Cuba but was that actually spelled out in the movie?

    It was central American "communists" as a proxy with Russian backing and guidance.

    That makes sense where I would assume "Cuba" at the age I saw it. :)

    Mike


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