Because you can be guaranteed you will still be doing it 3 hours later

TC

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Hello, thecivvie!

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Because you can be guaranteed you will still be doing it 3 hours later

But of course.

I couldn't tell you how many nights I spent in my IT career doing a "quick update" on some system, usually Windows, that took eight hours to update instead of only two.

Later,
Sean

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I couldn't tell you how many nights I spent in my IT career doing a
"quick update" on some system, usually Windows, that took eight hours to update instead of only two.

Same here. That also applies to fixing things on cars or just about anything. At times the things that I think will take a long time, end up going really smooth and quick. Then you have the "I just have this one more quick thing to finish", and 4 hours later still battling with it.

- Mark

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Sean Dennis wrote to thecivvie <=-

Hello, thecivvie!

Replying to a message of thecivvie to All:

Because you can be guaranteed you will still be doing it 3 hours

later

But of course.

I couldn't tell you how many nights I spent in my IT career doing a
"quick update" on some system, usually Windows, that took eight hours to update instead of only two.

Ubuntu Server was bugging me to upgrade from 18 to 20 lts . So I finally logged into a console and started the process. Took me far too long. Think it was 3 am when I finally finished

TC


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thecivvie wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Ubuntu Server was bugging me to upgrade from 18 to 20 lts . So I
finally logged into a console and started the process. Took me far too long. Think it was 3 am when I finally finished

I 'inherited' a server farm running some ancient VMs, some of them are still running 14.04. Not looking forward to getting everything up and supported.


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Hello Kurt,

Saturday July 10 2021 10:22, you wrote to thecivvie:

I 'inherited' a server farm running some ancient VMs, some of them are still running 14.04. Not looking forward to getting everything up and supported.

That sounds like a nightmare in the making.

-- Sean

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Kurt Weiske wrote to thecivvie <=-

thecivvie wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Ubuntu Server was bugging me to upgrade from 18 to 20 lts . So I
finally logged into a console and started the process. Took me far

too

long. Think it was 3 am when I finally finished

I 'inherited' a server farm running some ancient VMs, some of them are still running 14.04. Not looking forward to getting everything up and supported.

I have a blade server for awhile. Christ was it noisy and expensive to run. Gave it away with pleasure :)

TC


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Hello thecivvie,

Sunday July 11 2021 17:36, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

I have a blade server for awhile. Christ was it noisy and expensive to
run. Gave it away with pleasure :)

My HPE ProLiant ML110 G6 server is a mini-tower but it can hold four hard drives and two 5.25" drives. It was a good purchase and I'm glad I made it. I have a Dell PowerEdge R710 blade server that I'm going to give to Andrew. When I can, I'll drive to Andrew's place (12 hour drive ... probably a two day drive for me now; no more "balls to the wall" trips for me) and hand-deliver it to him. <G>

-- Sean

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Sean Dennis wrote to thecivvie <=-

Hello thecivvie,

Sunday July 11 2021 17:36, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

I have a blade server for awhile. Christ was it noisy and expensive

to

run. Gave it away with pleasure :)

My HPE ProLiant ML110 G6 server is a mini-tower but it can hold four hard drives and two 5.25" drives. It was a good purchase and I'm glad I made it. I have a Dell PowerEdge R710 blade server that I'm going to give to Andrew. When I can, I'll drive to Andrew's place (12 hour drive ... probably a two day drive for me now; no more "balls to the wall" trips
for me) and hand-deliver it to him. <G>

I want to get one of them. Maybe then do away with some of the Pi, or find another use for them

TC


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Hello thecivvie,

Sunday July 11 2021 21:05, you wrote to me:

I want to get one of them. Maybe then do away with some of the Pi, or
find another use for them

I have a use for one of my older Pis: a Ham Clock.

It's a specialized setup for amateur radio operators that shows several pieces of information that we hams use in our hobby.

https://www.clearskyinstitute.com/ham/HamClock/ has more info on it. I am thinking about setting up my 3B Pi for that.

I'm also considering getting the latest RPi 4 to set up a private VPN using OpenVPN for myself so I can work on the BBS securely via VNC from remote. More info about doing this here:

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-create-a-vpn-server-with-raspberry-pi

I am waiting on most of these projects because I need to do a few things and obtain things like a new cheap monitor for the Ham Clock (mine are all dying).

So many projects. <G>

As for the HPE, I bought it off of eBay for $114 shipped from the Atlanta area direct. The fan was going in the one I bought so the company sent me a good working heatsink (not cheap) for free. I wish I'd bought two of these then when I had the money! Mine has a quad-core 2.4gHz Xeon CPU in it. Not the fastest but very reliable and it handles tasks quite well.

I'd like to get a HP Z800 workstation for my personal computer ... they're big, heavy, older, but built like damn tanks.

I admit to a HP bias in computers since I was a factory-trained tech for their business-class desktops, laptops, and workstations. I know HPs inside and out and know how to find parts for them easy.

-- Sean

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Sean Dennis wrote to thecivvie <=-

I want to get one of them. Maybe then do away with some of the Pi, or
find another use for them

I have a use for one of my older Pis: a Ham Clock.

It's a specialized setup for amateur radio operators that shows several pieces of information that we hams use in our hobby.

https://www.clearskyinstitute.com/ham/HamClock/ has more info on it. I
am thinking about setting up my 3B Pi for that.

I am saving that for a project now :) I like the look of it

I'm also considering getting the latest RPi 4 to set up a private VPN using OpenVPN for myself so I can work on the BBS securely via VNC from remote. More info about doing this here:

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-create-a-vpn-server-with-raspberry-pi

I have 2, one is openvpn and the other is wireguard. The openvpn is on my mother's network as I need to sometimes log in remotely and do work

I am waiting on most of these projects because I need to do a few things and obtain things like a new cheap monitor for the Ham Clock (mine are
all dying).

I need to get a couple of decent monitors also but trying to work on a green setup

Sean


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Hello, thecivvie!

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I am saving that for a project now :) I like the look of it

It's useful for non-hams if you know how to mod it. Once I get a new monitors (or preferably monitors). this old HP 23" monitor will become a Ham Clock.

I have 2, one is openvpn and the other is wireguard. The openvpn is on
my mother's network as I need to sometimes log in remotely and do work

I'm hoping to get over to my parents' place this week and I can grab the 3B to bring over here to try setting up a VPN. I want a RPi4 since the Ethernet port doesn't share the same bus as the USB (which makes it faster) but for the BBS, the 3B will be fast enough.

Later,
Sean

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Sean Dennis wrote to thecivvie <=-

Hello, thecivvie!

Replying to a message of thecivvie to Sean Dennis:

I am saving that for a project now :) I like the look of it

It's useful for non-hams if you know how to mod it. Once I get a new monitors (or preferably monitors). this old HP 23" monitor will become a Ham Clock.

I keep trying to do my basic HAM licence here in Ireland, maybe should pull the finger out as I have all the PDF's on my nextcloud setup.

I have 2, one is openvpn and the other is wireguard. The openvpn is

on

my mother's network as I need to sometimes log in remotely and do

work

I'm hoping to get over to my parents' place this week and I can grab the 3B to bring over here to try setting up a VPN. I want a RPi4 since the Ethernet port doesn't share the same bus as the USB (which makes it faster) but for the BBS, the 3B will be fast enough.

Later,
Sean

I have all from a Zero up to the 4, just waiting to get a 400 as a laptop replacement for light work

TC


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I keep trying to do my basic HAM licence here in
Ireland, maybe should pull the finger out as I have all
the PDF's on my nextcloud setup.

I have spoken to both Ireland and Northern Ireland before from here on both 20 and 40 meters (though both were noisy). I am off the air right now as one of my radios was hit by lightning, the other radio's finals may be messed up/blown and I am in an apartment so I will have to get creative in how I get a HF antenna up. :D

I am looking at getting an ICOM IC-7100 (160 meters through 440 mhz in a single small radio and the head unit is very nice; looks like a Motorola desk head) if I get Social Security. Around $1100 new but I cand find one used online in good condition for 1/3 to 1/2 price new. I am a big ICOM fan as I like their setup.

I have all from a Zero up to the 4, just waiting to get
a 400 as a laptop replacement for light work

I've seen those 400s and I've heard very good things about them. The only thing I would do is shoehorn Devuan on there for my own personal taste.

-- Sean


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Sean Dennis wrote to Thecivvie <=-

I keep trying to do my basic HAM licence here in
Ireland, maybe should pull the finger out as I have all
the PDF's on my nextcloud setup.

I have spoken to both Ireland and Northern Ireland before from here on both 20 and 40 meters (though both were noisy). I am off the air right now as one of my radios was hit by lightning, the other radio's finals
may be messed up/blown and I am in an apartment so I will have to get creative in how I get a HF antenna up. :D

I am looking at getting an ICOM IC-7100 (160 meters through 440 mhz in a single small radio and the head unit is very nice; looks like a Motorola desk head) if I get Social Security. Around $1100 new but I cand find
one used online in good condition for 1/3 to 1/2 price new. I am a big ICOM fan as I like their setup.

my father was very active in HAM but never kept it up for some reason. I known during the CB hay days, I used to get some decent signals here and once managed to get South Africa :)

I have all from a Zero up to the 4, just waiting to get
a 400 as a laptop replacement for light work

I've seen those 400s and I've heard very good things about them. The
only thing I would do is shoehorn Devuan on there for my own personal taste.

Yeah, I want to make a small laptop for travelling but something that will only do what I need and no more, I had toyed with a Chromebook and maybe still look at one

TC

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Hello thecivvie,

Friday July 16 2021 13:34, you wrote to me:

my father was very active in HAM but never kept it up for some reason.
I known during the CB hay days, I used to get some decent signals here
and once managed to get South Africa :)

I am off the air right now due to problems with my radios but once I can get them fixed and possibly purchase a new rig, I will definitely be back on the air even if I have to hide my antenna during the day and put it out at night.

Yeah, I want to make a small laptop for travelling but something that
will only do what I need and no more, I had toyed with a Chromebook
and maybe still look at one

I have a couple of netbooks that work great running Linux. They're just buried in a bunch of junk. I'd like to see if I can get a HP Elitebook 840 G4 laptop with a high resolution display. They're business laptops so no gaming on them but they all run Linux wonderfully. I have an 840 G1 right now and it is showing its age a bit because it is low resolution (1300x866 or something). It's a good emergency laptop though running Devuan Linux.

-- Sean

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Sean Dennis wrote to thecivvie <=-

Hello thecivvie,

Friday July 16 2021 13:34, you wrote to me:

my father was very active in HAM but never kept it up for some

reason.

I known during the CB hay days, I used to get some decent signals

here

and once managed to get South Africa :)

I am off the air right now due to problems with my radios but once I can get them fixed and possibly purchase a new rig, I will definitely be
back on the air even if I have to hide my antenna during the day and put it out at night.

I want to get a small tower before I do any more antenna, I have 3 up at the moment and that doesnt include 2 test ads-b ones :) My favourite has to be the APT for weather images

Yeah, I want to make a small laptop for travelling but something that
will only do what I need and no more, I had toyed with a Chromebook
and maybe still look at one

I have a couple of netbooks that work great running Linux. They're just buried in a bunch of junk. I'd like to see if I can get a HP Elitebook 840 G4 laptop with a high resolution display. They're business laptops
so no gaming on them but they all run Linux wonderfully. I have an 840
G1 right now and it is showing its age a bit because it is low
resolution (1300x866 or something). It's a good emergency laptop though running Devuan Linux.

I have my 2014 MacBook Air that runs Mate Linux. The only issue is the webcam as I have to remember to re do the drivers at every kernel update. It is showing it's age, one of the USB ports got damaged and the other one is slowly dieing. I may try nd get it fixed as it still boots in less than 3 seconds

TC

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