Hello Mark Hofmann!

** On Monday 04.10.21 - 16:52, Mark Hofmann wrote to Kurt Weiske:

We have a small wood stove that requires small rounds,
and started using pellets in their place. They are much
more efficient, burn cleanly, and I can get a load of
pellets to last all night without stoking. [...]

[...]

It was many years ago when I bought it back when pellots
were cheap (as they should be). They are just pressed
wood. I had bought an entire pallot of them for around
$100 back then. That same amount would probably be $1000
now. It is insane. Cheaper to burn tires.

" Among Europe's dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant in
Yorkshire burning `renewable' wood emits MORE CO2 than UK's
coal - report

https://www.rt.com/uk/537069-carbon-neutral-biomass-emissions-
drax/

https://tinyurl.com/yhg78v9q

" A supposedly "carbon neutral" Drax biomass power plant is the
UK's leading source of CO2 emissions (https://t.me/ iv?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fuk%2F537069-carbon-neutral- biomass-emissions-drax%2F&rhash=8b7b9f9e18d765), and belches
out more harmful carbon and particulate matter than some of
Europe's dirtiest coal plants, according to a new report.

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" Among Europe's dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant in
Yorkshire burning `renewable' wood emits MORE CO2 than UK's
coal - report

Isn't burning tires considered recycling?

- Mark

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Hello Mark Hofmann!

** On Wednesday 13.10.21 - 18:31, Mark Hofmann wrote to August Abolins:

" Among Europe's dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant in
Yorkshire burning `renewable' wood emits MORE CO2 than
UK's coal - report

Isn't burning tires considered recycling?

I thought that the best they could do with with tires is shred
them and use that material for the basis of flowerbeds,
walkpaths, playgrounds, etc.. ..and calling *that* "recycling".

I've seen tires tires used for the basis of homes or retaining
walls (tires filled with concrete or other compacted material).


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Re: dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant
By: August Abolins to Mark Hofmann on Thu Oct 14 2021 08:59 am

Hello Mark Hofmann!

** On Wednesday 13.10.21 - 18:31, Mark Hofmann wrote to August Abolins:

" Among Europe's dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant in
Yorkshire burning `renewable' wood emits MORE CO2 than
UK's coal - report

Isn't burning tires considered recycling?

I thought that the best they could do with with tires is shred
them and use that material for the basis of flowerbeds,
walkpaths, playgrounds, etc.. ..and calling *that* "recycling".

I've seen tires tires used for the basis of homes or retaining
walls (tires filled with concrete or other compacted material).

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I think they can also be used for making lightened concrete. And asphalt for roads. It
is not like used tires are useless.

But yeah a lot of that material could just be burnt for the heat if it wasn't polluting and toxic as heck.

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August Abolins wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-

I thought that the best they could do with with tires is shred
them and use that material for the basis of flowerbeds,
walkpaths, playgrounds, etc.. ..and calling *that* "recycling".

Yes, except they're starting to make connections between recycled tires
being used in sports fields with increased rates of juvenile cancer.

A tire that's been ground into highway asphalt for its' entire life, then ground up to make cushioning that your kid will play soccer on? Seems safe!




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Hello Kurt Weiske!

** On Thursday 14.10.21 - 08:24, Kurt Weiske wrote to August Abolins:

I thought that the best they could do with with tires is
shred them and [...]

Yes, except they're starting to make connections between
recycled tires being used in sports fields with increased
rates of juvenile cancer.

Reshredded tires emit vapours, all over again. That can't be
good of anyone.

A tire that's been ground into highway asphalt for its'
entire life, then ground up to make cushioning that your
kid will play soccer on? Seems safe!

They do that?!? They take old asphalt and repurpose it on
soccerfields? Sounds like that no one is concerned about any
health risks.
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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.10.21 - 11:22, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

I've seen tires tires used for the basis of homes or retaining
walls (tires filled with concrete or other compacted material).

I think they can also be used for making lightened
concrete. And asphalt for roads. It is not like used tires
are useless.

I have a pile on my property that I wouln't mind repurposing
for a retaining wall to stop some errosion.

But yeah a lot of that material could just be burnt for the
heat if it wasn't polluting and toxic as heck.

If burned at a high enough temp, don't the toxins get reduced
too? Isn't that what an incinerator is designed for?
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Isn't burning tires considered recycling?

I thought that the best they could do with with tires is shred
them and use that material for the basis of flowerbeds,
walkpaths, playgrounds, etc.. ..and calling *that* "recycling".

I've seen tires tires used for the basis of homes or retaining
walls (tires filled with concrete or other compacted material).

True, I was just being sarcastic. Similar to me wanting to my a hybrid car from the 1970s.. One that runs on 1/2 gas and 1/2 oil.

- Mark

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Re: dirtiest: `Green' biomass power plant
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Thu Oct 14 2021 07:35 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 14.10.21 - 11:22, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

I've seen tires tires used for the basis of homes or retaining
walls (tires filled with concrete or other compacted material).

I think they can also be used for making lightened
concrete. And asphalt for roads. It is not like used tires
are useless.

I have a pile on my property that I wouln't mind repurposing
for a retaining wall to stop some errosion.

But yeah a lot of that material could just be burnt for the
heat if it wasn't polluting and toxic as heck.

If burned at a high enough temp, don't the toxins get reduced
too? Isn't that what an incinerator is designed for?
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"Reduced" and "Reduced to acceptable levels" are different things.

I am not an expert in plastic burning, but it you need to burn a too high a temperature it may stop being
energetically proffitable because you end up wasting more energy in cracking the toxins than in, you
know, whetever you want the heat for.

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August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

A tire that's been ground into highway asphalt for its'
entire life, then ground up to make cushioning that your
kid will play soccer on? Seems safe!

They do that?!? They take old asphalt and repurpose it on
soccerfields? Sounds like that no one is concerned about any
health risks.

No, they take the tires, shred them and use them as cushioning under artificial turf. Turns out soccer goalies were having higher incidences of pediatric cancer, and they're making connections to them being in closer contact to the rubber.

My son played flag football a couple of years, and there's be little black pellets on him, the size of a small freckle - rubber flecks from the cushioning.

I'm sure someone knows, didn't care and is making profits on this.


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