Mark,

I have to get the 2nd shot this Tuesday, and then next month have to
get the flu shot. Fun times!

In the last 2 years, I've gotten shots for the flu, shingles, pneumonia, tentanus, diptheria, whooping cough, and COVID-19.

The bad thing is, my shoulder/upper arm is so sore for 24 hours where
they gave the shot, that I have great difficulty sleeping at night...even
when taking pain pills.

Too bad they can't give shots in the hip/gleute, as I don't put as much pressure on that area when I sleep.

Daryl

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On 19 Sep 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

For me, the first was worse but most people seem to have more trouble
with the second one, if they have any trouble.

Here in Ontario some of us got mixed doses. My first was Moderna & other than a sore arm for about 3 or 4 I didn't really notice anything else. My 2nd dose was Pfizer, I didn't even get a sore arm.


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Jay,

Here in Ontario some of us got mixed doses. My first was Moderna &
other than a sore arm for about 3 or 4 I didn't really notice anything else. My 2nd dose was Pfizer, I didn't even get a sore arm.

I had both Pfizer shots...no reaction to the first one, but my left arm
was sore for about 12 hours after the second one.

I'd rather get the shot in the hip/gleute (butt cheek) as I don't put
as much pressure on that area when I sleep. My strongest pain medicine
is Ibuprofen, but I don't like to take it unless I really have to.

Daryl

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For me, the first was worse but most people seem to have more trouble with the second one, if they have any trouble.

Here in Ontario some of us got mixed doses. My first was Moderna & other than
sore arm for about 3 or 4 I didn't really notice anything else. My 2nd dose s Pfizer, I didn't even get a sore arm.

Here, they were trying not to mix them, but I think some people who got impatient may have also done so. I got Moderna both times.


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In the last 2 years, I've gotten shots for the flu, shingles, pneumonia, tentanus, diptheria, whooping cough, and COVID-19.

The bad thing is, my shoulder/upper arm is so sore for 24 hours where
they gave the shot, that I have great difficulty sleeping at night...even when taking pain pills.

Maybe I don't notice it as much due to my evening beer drinking.. :)

I had the 2nd shot yesterday evening (work mandated). I really had no concern overall other than I despise mandates.

I had no reaction to the 1st and so far with the 2nd, nothing different. Feels like someone knuckle punched you in the spot where they give the injection, but otherwise all good. Not a big deal and it goes away in around 3 days. Good excuse to have an extra beer.

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I'd rather get the shot in the hip/gleute (butt cheek) as I don't put
as much pressure on that area when I sleep. My strongest pain medicine
is Ibuprofen, but I don't like to take it unless I really have to.

Beer and Ibuprofen work well. :) I agree though, I don't take any medicines unless it is 100% necessary. I have personally seen what can happen when people think pills solve everything and is their first course of action.

- Mark

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Mark,

Maybe I don't notice it as much due to my evening beer drinking.. :)

The only beer I used to drink was root beer...whether it was Dad's, Mugs, Hires, A&W, or something else. I think someone referred to it as "carbonated sassafras"...and I've heard Doctor Pepper referred to as "carbonated prune juice".

I had the 2nd shot yesterday evening (work mandated). I really had no concern overall other than I despise mandates.

I had both of mine back in April. I've wondered if 4 months later, it triggered the atrial flutter, or if it was all the stress I've been having
to deal with since my Mom died.

I had no reaction to the 1st and so far with the 2nd, nothing
different. Feels like someone knuckle punched you in the spot where
they give the injection, but otherwise all good. Not a big deal and it goes away in around 3 days. Good excuse to have an extra beer.

My left shoulder was sore for 12 hours after the second shot...I had no problem after the first shot.

Daryl

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Mark,

Beer and Ibuprofen work well. :) I agree though, I don't take any medicines unless it is 100% necessary. I have personally seen what can happen when people think pills solve everything and is their first
course of action.

I've never smoked or drank...and I'd be afraid to mix medications with alcohol.

Daryl

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I've never smoked or drank...and I'd be afraid to mix medications with alcohol.

I quit smoking over 10 years ago. The main reason I decided to quit was to be done with the addiction. I despise addictions, and was done with it running my life. Fortunatly beer and me have a good relationship where I don't crave a beer when I wake up in the morning, so I keep it around.

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My left shoulder was sore for 12 hours after the second shot...I had no problem after the first shot.

Mine was the opposite for whatever reason. I could feel the spot on my arm for around 3 days after the 1st shot. Had no other issues at all, though.

The 2nd shot, my arm doesn't hurt at all just 24 hours later but I did have a low grade fever and some slight ache/tired feeling exactly 24 hours after the 2nd one. That lasted into the following day as well to some extent. I just took some Advil Wednesday and Thursday evenings.

Today (Friday), I feel fine so should be good to enjoy the weekend soon.

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Mark,

I quit smoking over 10 years ago. The main reason I decided to quit
was to be done with the addiction. I despise addictions, and was done with it running my life. Fortunatly beer and me have a good
relationship where I don't crave a beer when I wake up in the morning,
so I keep it around.

Beer is also a good diuretic. And, the only thing I want smoking or
steaming is the food on the dinner plate (think sizzling fajitas at Applebee's).

Daryl

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Beer is also a good diuretic. And, the only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on the dinner plate (think sizzling fajitas at Applebee's).

It is also good for people that have a tendancy for kidney stones (validated by my urologist years ago). It keeps the kidneys flowing, which is what you want to prevent kidney stones.

Works for me! I don't want another one of those damn things.. I have had (2) in my life, and that is (2) too many.

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Mark,

It is also good for people that have a tendancy for kidney stones (validated by my urologist years ago). It keeps the kidneys flowing, which is what you want to prevent kidney stones.

Works for me! I don't want another one of those damn things.. I have
had (2) in my life, and that is (2) too many.

One woman told me that she would rather have quintuplets, in hard
labor, with no epidural, than one kidney stone. That pretty much sums
it up.

Yet, another woman told me that "If women can pass a baby, you men
can pass a kidney stone". I told her "But, unlike the female cervix,
the male penis cannot dialate".

A friend of mine asked me if I had multiple stones, what I'd call
them. I replied "Sly And The Family Stone, of course". <G>

I didn't have my first one until I was 50. But, I've quit drinking
soda and caffeine (iced tea). Yet, that has brought back the migraine headaches due to caffeine withdrawl. I'm still drinking a half gallon
of liquid a day, but not just water. As the late W.C. Fields said "I
don't drink water. Fish [have sex] in it". <G>

I'll take it for taking medication, but otherwise, I just don't
care for plain water. The flavored water is carbonated, and the
carbonation might have had an effect on the kidney stone formation.
I try to avoid stuff with citric acid, including lemonade, as it
tends to give me canker sores with my dentures.

My problem now (along with all the others I have) is atrial
flutter/atrial fibrillation, which I was diagnosed with 2 months
ago. Like diabetes and high blood pressure, many who have the
condition, don't know they have it, until the damage is done.
I'm on medicine to control the heart rate, as well as a blood
thinner to prevent clots. I see the cardiologist a week from
Wednesday, and I'm seriously considering ablation surgery.

Daryl

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Hello Daryl Stout!

** On Sunday 26.09.21 - 12:59, Daryl Stout wrote to Mark Hofmann:

[...] But, I've quit drinking soda and caffeine (iced
tea). Yet, that has brought back the migraine headaches
due to caffeine withdrawl. I'm still drinking a half
gallon of liquid a day, but not just water.

I drank coffee non-stop throughout the day many years ago. I
carried caffeine pills incase I missed having a coffee at my
prescribed intervals inorder to avoid the withdrawal headaches.

But eventually I decided "no more coffee". Going gold-turkey
wasn't working. But I learned that I can wean off caffineated
gradually by reducing the strength and substituting decaf. From
8-10 large cups per day down to 1 half-strength is amazing for
me. I'm hanging on to that one half-strength coffee in the
morning though. The goal is to just have decaf.

As the late W.C. Fields said "I don't drink water. Fish
[have sex] in it". <G>

He shouldn't be drinking from lakes or pond. That's his
problem.

I'll take it for taking medication, but otherwise, I
just don't care for plain water. The flavored water is
carbonated, and the carbonation might have had an effect
on the kidney stone formation. I try to avoid stuff with
citric acid, including lemonade, as it tends to give me
canker sores with my dentures.

Have you tried the water/flavour enhancers? I'm trying one of
these recently:

https://susepaste.org/16716151

I'm on medicine to control the heart rate, as well as a blood
thinner to prevent clots. [...]

And you are probably destined to be on other meds to control
the side-effects of the previous meds. :/

I know several people who began taking ONE medication for ONE
thing and have ended up with taking a cocktail of 8+ meds every
day.
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On 26 Sep 21 08:07:28, Mark Hofmann said the following to Daryl Stout:

It is also good for people that have a tendancy for kidney stones (validate by my urologist years ago). It keeps the kidneys flowing, which is what yo want to prevent kidney stones.

Works for me! I don't want another one of those damn things.. I have had ( in my life, and that is (2) too many.

I've had them twice now too. I have one apparently deeply embedded in my left kidney.

The first time I had them I ended up in the hospital with twice-the-usual dosage of morphine.

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August,

I drank coffee non-stop throughout the day many years ago. I
carried caffeine pills incase I missed having a coffee at my
prescribed intervals inorder to avoid the withdrawal headaches.

I never acquired a taste for coffee...but I used to drink ice tea
by the pitcher!!

But eventually I decided "no more coffee". Going gold-turkey
wasn't working. But I learned that I can wean off caffineated
gradually by reducing the strength and substituting decaf. From
8-10 large cups per day down to 1 half-strength is amazing for
me. I'm hanging on to that one half-strength coffee in the
morning though. The goal is to just have decaf.

Is there such a thing as decaffinated tea?? I can do the "Kroger
Koolaid" if need be...but if I end up working at the computer too
much, my eyes and my back give me fits...as they are today.

As the late W.C. Fields said "I don't drink water. Fish
[have sex] in it". <G>

He shouldn't be drinking from lakes or pond. That's his
problem.

He apparently got so plastered anyway...Charlie McCarthy wanted
to use his nose for a tail light on his bicycle. <G>

Have you tried the water/flavour enhancers? I'm trying one of
these recently:

https://susepaste.org/16716151

I'm using the Kroger version of Crystal Light. For now, it's
serving the purpose.

And you are probably destined to be on other meds to control
the side-effects of the previous meds. :/

Just like Jeff Foxworthy's video on that. Or like the tagline "Overmedicated?? We have a prescription for that!!". :P

I know several people who began taking ONE medication for ONE
thing and have ended up with taking a cocktail of 8+ meds every
day.

I'm up to 8 for the first meal, and 4 for the second meal...the
latter are ones I have to take twice a day.

Daryl

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One woman told me that she would rather have quintuplets, in hard
labor, with no epidural, than one kidney stone. That pretty much sums
it up.

I'll never know what it is like to have a baby, but my 1st stone was really difficult at times. No question the most pain I have ever felt at times. Even with morphine when I was in the hospital, I could still feel it slightly. I wanted to rip it out of my body with my bare hands.

The 2nd one I had about 8 years ago or so wasn't nearly as bad. Never ended up in the hospital and never had extreme pain. I also got to see that one come out, which was both creepy and a joyous moment at the same time.

The trick is flooding it out with loads of water and beer.

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I've had them twice now too. I have one apparently deeply embedded in my left
kidney.

Is it still there? My Dad had several of them over the years - but for some odd reason since he is much older now, has not had any in decades. Lots of other problems, but not that one.

The first time I had them I ended up in the hospital with twice-the-usual dosage of morphine.

Me too! I had no idea what the problem was at the time. I was still married to my 1st wife at the time and around 29 or 30 years old. It woke me up in the middle of the night. I thought I had an appendix rupture or something. By the time I got to the ER, the pain was totally gone. It wasn't until they did the tests and they explained to me the situtation that I knew what happened.

I will never forgot how they told me.

"We have good news and bad news, which would you like first?" I said the good news. The doctor said "You are not going to die". I said ok, that is good. What is the bad news? The bad news is you have a kidney stone, and it is still there.

It took over a month to get it to pass and at times I was ready to rip it out with my hands if I could. It went from no pain at all to extreme pain in a matter of seconds. Not fun!

This is why I drink water constantly. That is the best way to prevent them.

- Mark

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On 26 Sep 2021, Daryl Stout said the following...

I never acquired a taste for coffee...but I used to drink ice tea
by the pitcher!!

I didn't start drinking coffee until I was in my mid-20's. Never cared for the taste of it, but them someone introduced me to mochas (chocolate & coffee) and then I was hooked. I've since backed off of them since they're not too good on the wallet (bottom line) or my waistline.

Is there such a thing as decaffinated tea??

There is, but they're very weak, at least any of them I've tried. I'm partial to English Breakfast or Earl Grey, the decaf varieties of these taste like someone dunked a teabag in some hot water for about 10 seconds and gave up.


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Jay,

I didn't start drinking coffee until I was in my mid-20's. Never cared for the taste of it, but them someone introduced me to mochas
(chocolate & coffee) and then I was hooked. I've since backed off of
them since they're not too good on the wallet (bottom line) or my waistline.

A waist is a terrible thing to mind. :P And, I don't see how folks go to places like Starbuck's. Ventriloquist Jeff Dunham, was trying to deal with
one of his characters (Peanut), who overdid it on coffee at Starbuck's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r2t6SG76sc

Is there such a thing as decaffinated tea??

There is, but they're very weak, at least any of them I've tried. I'm partial to English Breakfast or Earl Grey, the decaf varieties of these taste like someone dunked a teabag in some hot water for about 10
seconds and gave up.

I'm sorry I asked. :P

Daryl

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Re: Re: Shots
By: Mark Hofmann to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 27 2021 08:42 am

One woman told me that she would rather have quintuplets, in hard
labor, with no epidural, than one kidney stone. That pretty much sums
it up.

I'll never know what it is like to have a baby, but my 1st stone was really difficult at times. No question the most pain I have ever felt at times. E with morphine when I was in the hospital, I could still feel it slightly. I wanted to rip it out of my body with my bare hands.

The 2nd one I had about 8 years ago or so wasn't nearly as bad. Never ended in the hospital and never had extreme pain. I also got to see that one come out, which was both creepy and a joyous moment at the same time.

The trick is flooding it out with loads of water and beer.

- Mark

Pretty much that.

I have a popular product in the store which is plant-based and is diuretic as nothing you've ever seen. It ensures people can't leave the toilet :-) It is designed to be taken with a LOT of water for maximum effect.

I used to sell it like hot cakes. Some doctor around was recommending it for stones.

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August Abolins wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

I drank coffee non-stop throughout the day many years ago. I
carried caffeine pills incase I missed having a coffee at my
prescribed intervals inorder to avoid the withdrawal headaches.

I've been lucky, I've quit cold-turkey a couple of times and had mild headaches for 3 days. I'm drinking 2 large cups in the morning maybe a cup
of coffee and another of half-caf in the afternoon. Working from home has increased my consumption more than I thought it could.

But eventually I decided "no more coffee". Going gold-turkey
wasn't working. But I learned that I can wean off caffineated
gradually by reducing the strength and substituting decaf. From
8-10 large cups per day down to 1 half-strength is amazing for
me. I'm hanging on to that one half-strength coffee in the
morning though. The goal is to just have decaf.

This is the way.



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Daryl Stout wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-

Mark,

Maybe I don't notice it as much due to my evening beer drinking.. :)

The only beer I used to drink was root beer...whether it was Dad's, Mugs, Hires, A&W, or something else. I think someone referred to it as "carbonated sassafras"...and I've heard Doctor Pepper referred to as "carbonated prune juice".

I had the 2nd shot yesterday evening (work mandated). I really had no concern overall other than I despise mandates.

I had both of mine back in April. I've wondered if 4 months later, it triggered the atrial flutter, or if it was all the stress I've been
having to deal with since my Mom died.

I had no reaction to the 1st and so far with the 2nd, nothing
different. Feels like someone knuckle punched you in the spot where
they give the injection, but otherwise all good. Not a big deal and it goes away in around 3 days. Good excuse to have an extra beer.

My left shoulder was sore for 12 hours after the second shot...I had
no problem after the first shot.

Daryl

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