Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

It is ugly and insecure, but if you want something sane you
should not be using the web to start with.

You're right though. The HTTP protocol is doing things it was never meant to do.

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Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

It's old-school, non zero-trust security. They want a monolithic
approach, putting your defenses into a central firewall like they did
in the 2000s, and vendors are more than happy to provide.

That seems like setting up a single point of failure for the network but I am not hip on the latest security procedures
anymore.

Oh, that would be fun. Most people wouldn't know what to do with a
pager!

The company I go through for a pager is:

https://www.mysecretaryusa.com

The price on numeric paging went up a lot and for $1 more you can get alphanumeric paging. Somewhere I have an almost-new
pager I bought from them that can be activated immediately.

I've mentioned before that I liked pager culture. If someone needed assistance after work hours, they had to be invested to do so - they needed to be available for me to call them back, to explain the issue,
and I could set expectations on when their issue could be resolved.

Exactly. That's why I know people won't bother me.

Now, someone sends an email at oh-dark-hundred and the game clock
starts, so to speak, in their head - regardless of how long it'll
really take, whether or not I have the information I need to proceed,
etc.

I really don't want to carry a cell phone but since you can't find payphones like you used to, I'm kinda forced to do so.

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Re: Re: Privacy is Power: ta
By: Sean Dennis to Kurt Weiske on Sun Sep 12 2021 03:33 pm

It's old-school, non zero-trust security. They want a monolithic approach, putting your defenses into a central firewall like they did in the 2000s, and vendors are more than happy to provide.

That seems like setting up a single point of failure for the network but I a not hip on the latest security procedures
anymore.

I think setting a group of proxies with automatic failover is not that hard nowadays. You can use something like OpenBSD's carp in order to have a group of proxies share the same IP address and have a failover proxy step in when the main one fails. Cisco and friends also have their own protocols for the same effect.

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Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Now, someone sends an email at oh-dark-hundred and the game clock
starts, so to speak, in their head - regardless of how long it'll
really take, whether or not I have the information I need to proceed,
etc.

I really don't want to carry a cell phone but since you can't find payphones like you used to, I'm kinda forced to do so.

It was different when pay phones were everywhere (and I wasn't as concerned about using a shared public pay phone)

One fun pager trick we'd have was to go to a bar with friends and page our missing friend with the number of the bar. He'd call the number, they'd say the name of the bar, and you'd know where to go to meet them.

When I started out consulting, I found a desk phone with a built in
answering machine that would page out the caller ID of anyone who'd called.
It was very handy in a pre-cell phone world.


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Hello Arelor,

Monday September 13 2021 03:20, you wrote to me:

I think setting a group of proxies with automatic failover is not that
hard nowadays. You can use something like OpenBSD's carp in order to
have a group of proxies share the same IP address and have a failover
proxy step in when the main one fails. Cisco and friends also have
their own protocols for the same effect.

True. Like I said earlier, I am not up on most stuff these days having been out of the biz for a few years and admittedly having become out of practice.

-- Sean

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Hello Kurt,

Monday September 13 2021 08:03, you wrote to me:

One fun pager trick we'd have was to go to a bar with friends and page
our missing friend with the number of the bar. He'd call the number, they'd say the name of the bar, and you'd know where to go to meet
them.

That's actually a good idea. My parents, when I was young and living on my own, would page me with the last two numbers of their respective birth year with a scale of 1-3, 3 being lowest priority, and 911 if I needed to call them immediately. That worked for a very long time! My sisters would use that same system with me if need be.

I am still thinking about getting a pager then getting a basic flip phone with low minutes. In my condition, I should always have a cell phone in case of an emergency but everyone else besides close friends and family can call Mr. Pager.

When I started out consulting, I found a desk phone with a built in answering machine that would page out the caller ID of anyone who'd called. It was very handy in a pre-cell phone world.

That is very handy. I have discovered I could write a simple program to page me if there's problems with the BBS using an alphanumeric pager.

I have grown a bit "anti-technology" (no pun intended) as I've grown older. I despise being in constant contact in one way but the other I grudgingly admit it has its purposes.

-- Sean

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