Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

You know, I was thinking this morning about talking to jrmu from IRCNow about setting some message board and link it with this network. Just a wild idea I was having. Jrmu and his crowd is one of _us_, you know :-)

While I appreciate the idea, Micronet is a FTN network and is going to stay that way.

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Re: Happy birthday, Micronet
By: Sean Dennis to Arelor on Sat Sep 04 2021 06:55 pm

Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

You know, I was thinking this morning about talking to jrmu from IRCNow about setting some message board and link it with this network. Just a wild idea I was having. Jrmu and his crowd is one of _us_, you know :-)

While I appreciate the idea, Micronet is a FTN network and is going to stay that way.

-- Sean

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Agreed, I was not thinking of linking it via an IRC gateway.

I hate it when they link message areas to chat platforms.

Right now we at IRCNow are experimenting with things, and even if IRC is our main service, we are playing with mailing lists and game servers and such. Jrmu is concerned Big Tech is going to eventually kick every dissident voice out and that alternative platforms have to be ready when such thing happens.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 06.09.21 - 16:40, Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis:

I hate it when they link message areas to chat platforms.

As you may know, LITRPG is linked/transcoded/bridged to reach
Telegram users. The @Fido2telegram bot does a fine job sticking
to FTN standards. As long as Telegram users remember to use
the R)eply feature when responding to a message, the message
gets a MSGID/REPLYID that helps maintain the threading on the
Fido side.

Right now we at IRCNow are experimenting with things, and
even if IRC is our main service, we are playing with
mailing lists and game servers and such. Jrmu is concerned
Big Tech is going to eventually kick every dissident voice
out and that alternative platforms have to be ready when
such thing happens.

Are you trying to bring the IRCNow channel into an FTN-style
network?

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Re: Happy birthday, Micronet
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:53 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 06.09.21 - 16:40, Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis:

I hate it when they link message areas to chat platforms.

As you may know, LITRPG is linked/transcoded/bridged to reach
Telegram users. The @Fido2telegram bot does a fine job sticking
to FTN standards. As long as Telegram users remember to use
the R)eply feature when responding to a message, the message
gets a MSGID/REPLYID that helps maintain the threading on the
Fido side.

Right now we at IRCNow are experimenting with things, and
even if IRC is our main service, we are playing with
mailing lists and game servers and such. Jrmu is concerned
Big Tech is going to eventually kick every dissident voice
out and that alternative platforms have to be ready when
such thing happens.

Are you trying to bring the IRCNow channel into an FTN-style
network?

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Yes, and Telegram styled messages sent from a phone bother me. SOmetimes the sender uses two or three short messages to say what he could have said in a long, well formattedr message instead.

I can live with it, but it loos ugly.

Also, I am trying nothing specific regarding IRCNow :-) I handle some code repositories for them and lend them a hand every now and then. We are still gathering people and building infrastructure but the whole thing is a bit disjointed yet. We have a functioning mailing list, the IRC network and mail services for insiders. There are more things planned but we are still writing the code.

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Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Right now we at IRCNow are experimenting with things, and even if IRC
is our main service, we are playing with mailing lists and game
servers and such. Jrmu
is concerned Big Tech is going to eventually kick every
dissident voice out and
that alternative platforms have to be ready when such thing happens.

I don't mind Micronet being ported to NNTP or QWK for distribution on BBSes. I'd love to have a NNTP gateway here as I love using Pan for NNTP and it would be great to use but sadly I am too lazy to set anything up. <G>

I have found though when a FTN network is gated outside of FTN, the trash flows freely and it's not something I want to deal with and I know the rest of Micronet doesn't either.

As for IRC, there is an official Micronet channel, #micronet, on irc.bbses.info:6667 (SSL: 6669).

I do agree that BBSes and IRC are starting to come back a bit as a backlash to Big Tech like Facebook and what-not.

-- Sean


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Sean,

I do agree that BBSes and IRC are starting to come back a bit as a backlash to Big Tech like Facebook and what-not.

Let Big Tech get pissed...BBS's were around long before they were. :P
There's a special ambience on BBS's you won't find anywhere else.

Daryl

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Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Right now we at IRCNow are experimenting with things, and even if IRC
is our main service, we are playing with mailing lists and game servers and such. Jrmu is concerned Big Tech is going to eventually kick every dissident voice out and that alternative platforms have to be ready
when such thing happens.

That certainly is a valid point - although it's in the platform's best interests to keep users (and user numbers) high and any manipulation on the part of the platform can be accomplished with feed algorithms.

I want a platform to not show promoted ads in my feed, and allow me to
easily sort my feed in chronological order instead of being driven by an algorithm. Is that so hard?


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Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

There's a special ambience on BBS's you won't find anywhere else.

Indeed and I'd much rather be on a BBS than some anonymous website.

-- Sean

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Sean,

There's a special ambience on BBS's you won't find anywhere else.

Indeed and I'd much rather be on a BBS than some anonymous website.

I logon mainly to do QWK Mail (that's always done), then I play maybe
5 doorgames, and that's it. I don't have the time or energy to do much
more.

I'm wearing a heart monitor now, diagnosed with atrial flutter in late
July, with a second attack in late August. Both times, I had to call 911
and the ambulance, and was hospitalized, with a heart rate of 155. It was
55 a bit ago, thanks to the medication...so if I have another attack, the
rate won't jump as high. I return the heart monitor next Thursday...but,
I still may need a cardiac cath, or ablation surgery. Yet, the chemical
stress test just over a month ago showed no blockage.

Yet, I need to go get my flu shot soon.

Daryl

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Tuesday 07.09.21 - 13:39, Sean Dennis wrote to Arelor:

I don't mind Micronet being ported to NNTP or QWK for
distribution on BBSes. I'd love to have a NNTP gateway
here as I love using Pan for NNTP and it would be great to
use but sadly I am too lazy to set anything up.

Just point your Pan to endofthelinebbs.com:119 to get started.

I have found though when a FTN network is gated outside of
FTN, the trash flows freely and it's not something I want
to deal with and I know the rest of Micronet doesn't
either.

As you may know, some Fidonet echos are represented via
Telegram. There is zero-possibility of trash as you call it.

First, the echos are established as PRIVATE groups which means
that the general Telegram public or bot system won't find them
- and therefore, no chance for spam.

Second, once a user establishes a link to an echo, then it is
impossible for that same person (should they prove to be a
problem) to arbirarily change IDs and rejoin the echo and
pretend to be someone else. This is because every Telegram ID
is tied to one phone number for the initial install. When a
user is blocked, there is no way that same person/ID can rejoin
the echo unless they change numbers. And Telegram has guard
against virtual (throw-away) phone numbers.

As for IRC, there is an official Micronet channel,
#micronet, on irc.bbses.info:6667 (SSL: 6669).

I'll have to give it a shot. But I'll have to find a good
client that can work with XP (my preferred machine).

I do agree that BBSes and IRC are starting to come back a
bit as a backlash to Big Tech like Facebook and what-not.

Everyone I know is still charmed and enamoured by "the ease" of
FB. But FB is a terrible platform for a serious discussion
group IMHO.

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Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I logon mainly to do QWK Mail (that's always done), then I play maybe
5 doorgames, and that's it. I don't have the time or energy to do much more.

I'm in the process of removing about 90% of the content on my BBS. No one bothers to use it so there's no reason to keep it around.

I'm wearing a heart monitor now, diagnosed with atrial flutter in
late July, with a second attack in late August. Both times, I had to
call 911 and the ambulance, and was hospitalized, with a heart rate of 155. It was 55 a bit ago, thanks to the medication...so if I have
another attack, the rate won't jump as high. I return the heart monitor next Thursday...but, I still may need a cardiac cath, or ablation
surgery. Yet, the chemical stress test just over a month ago showed no blockage.

I had the same problem: multiple chemical heart stress tests cleared me but a heart cath showed my right artery to be blocked at 51%.

The only "shot" I get on a regular basis is a pneumonia shot every five years since I have had pneumonia so much. I did have
hepatitis A/B vaccine series but it was required for me to have it since I was working IT at a hospital.

-- Sean

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August Abolins wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

As you may know, some Fidonet echos are represented via
Telegram. There is zero-possibility of trash as you call it.

My view is that FTN mail needs to stay as FTN mail and not gated to something like Telegram.

I am at a point with BBSing that I am loathe to try anything new simply because I do not have the energy nor desire to try the
latest and greatest thing. It's much like amateur radio: there's always something new on the horizon but when you dig deeper,
it's just a rehash of what's already working. So to me, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

-- Sean

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Sean,

I'm in the process of removing about 90% of the content on my BBS. No
one bothers to use it so there's no reason to keep it around.

I've got the room for it right now. I'm usually the only caller, but I
run it for my enjoyment.

I had the same problem: multiple chemical heart stress tests cleared me but a heart cath showed my right artery to be blocked at 51%.

Well, I was surprised there was no blockage...but I was thankful. I may
still see if I can get a cardiac cath done, if not ablation surgery.

The only "shot" I get on a regular basis is a pneumonia shot every five years since I have had pneumonia so much. I did have
hepatitis A/B vaccine series but it was required for me to have it
since I was working IT at a hospital.

The main shots I get now are flu, and probably COVID-19, if I end up
needing it. I've had the shingles, tetanus, diptheria, and whooping cough shots in the last 2 years.

Daryl

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Sean Dennis wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

I'm in the process of removing about 90% of the content on my BBS. No
one bothers to use it so there's no reason to keep it around.

On my talisman BBS I've done just that. Sometime after thanksgiving
when I start moving mail for you I'm going to move my fidonet feed into
it as well. That will start the begining of shutting down ezycom after
15 or more years.

The only "shot" I get on a regular basis is a pneumonia shot every five years since I have had pneumonia so much. I did have
hepatitis A/B vaccine series but it was required for me to have it
since I was working IT at a hospital.

I get the flu shot yearly, the pneumonia shot, and a B12 shot monthly.

Shawn

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Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I'm in the process of removing about 90% of the content on my BBS. No
one bothers to use it so there's no reason to keep it around.

I've got the room for it right now. I'm usually the only caller, but
I run it for my enjoyment.

Yeah, I have old t-files from the "golden age of p/h/a/c", old zines and online doors that I could probably get rid of, as most of the information is on textfiles.com and horribly dangerous or obsolete. It's just sort of
hanging on, if I move the BBS to a VPS I may get rid of them and save the
move time.




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On 13 Sep 2021, Shawn Highfield said the following...

I get the flu shot yearly, the pneumonia shot, and a B12 shot monthly.

Mind if I ask about the B12 shot? Where/why do you get it?

A few years back I was having some ailments and ended up seeing a naturopathic doctor out of desperation. She was "prescribing" stuff left, right & centre, one of them was a B12 shot every other week.

Of all the things she sold me (one was ingesting actual silver and gold) the vitamin B12 shot every other week I actually noticed I felt more aware/alert/awake for that day. Eventually I stopped going to her because it was very expensive and I wasn't 100% sure I wasn't being taken for a ride.


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Hello Shawn,

Monday September 13 2021 07:28, you wrote to me:

On my talisman BBS I've done just that. Sometime after thanksgiving
when I start moving mail for you I'm going to move my fidonet feed
into it as well. That will start the begining of shutting down ezycom after 15 or more years.

Sounds good! I will find somewhere online that can handle multi-volume, multi-gigabyte downloads and upload most of my collected files there. Once you're ready to move mail for Net 400, I'm going to try to relieve Nick of his hubbing duties completely since he has stepped down as NC 229 in Fight-O. I may move Daniel and Deon to their own individual regions in the nodelist and give them new net numbers ... this is still in the thought process. I have a lot going on right now and the BBS stuff has kinda been put on the back burner for now.

I get the flu shot yearly, the pneumonia shot, and a B12 shot monthly.

The VA prescribes me Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B complex pills that I take ... guess they don't want to give me any more shots since I told them I'm allergic to latex, heh.

-- Sean

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Hello Kurt,

Monday September 13 2021 08:03, you wrote to Daryl Stout:

Yeah, I have old t-files from the "golden age of p/h/a/c", old zines
and online doors that I could probably get rid of, as most of the information is on textfiles.com and horribly dangerous or obsolete.
It's just sort of hanging on, if I move the BBS to a VPS I may get rid
of them and save the move time.

I'm going from 18GB of filebase to 3GB. Big difference.

-- Sean

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Re: Happy birthday, Micronet
By: Sean Dennis to Shawn Highfield on Mon Sep 13 2021 04:58 pm

I get the flu shot yearly, the pneumonia shot, and a B12 shot monthly.

The VA prescribes me Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B complex pills that I take ... guess they don't want to give me any more shots since I told them I'm allerg to latex, heh.

Interesting.

Vitamin B megadoser pills are one of the items I sell the best. I give a lot of them to people with neurological damaged or opressed nerves. Having it via injection seems very inconvenient to me when there are many affordable pills in the wild.

But then, a lot of people is taking Vitamin D shots when there are good Vitamin D pills out there. I think, in Spain, people is taking the shots because they come with state healthcare programs while the pills are not covered.


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Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 13.09.21 - 19:48, Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis:

Vitamin B megadoser pills are one of the items I sell the
best. I give a lot of them to people with neurological
damaged or opressed nerves. Having it via injection seems
very inconvenient to me when there are many affordable
pills in the wild.

Might be inconvenient, but some people need the fast response
that B12 injections provide. In my town, almost every other
senior is being prescribed B12 injections. Why is that? Are
their diets so poor?

But then, a lot of people is taking Vitamin D shots when
there are good Vitamin D pills out there. I think, in
Spain, people is taking the shots because they come with
state healthcare programs while the pills are not covered.

The pill form of anything literally goes through a burning hell
as it lingers in the stomach for a while and often less
effective by the time it gets out. The injection version is
probably the cheapest (covered by health care) as well here
too.

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Warpslide wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

Mind if I ask about the B12 shot? Where/why do you get it?

Family doctor's office, and I get it because my body doesn't
absorb vitamin's correctly from the food I eat.

Of all the things she sold me (one was ingesting actual silver and
gold) the vitamin B12 shot every other week I actually noticed I felt
more aware/alert/awake for that day. Eventually I stopped going to her because it was very expensive and I wasn't 100% sure I wasn't being
taken for a ride.

I know OHIP covers mine, but even if they didn't it's a very cheap
medicine from drug store and easy enough to inject yourself as it's
just into a muscle.

Shawn

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Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

... this is still in the thought process. I have a lot going on right
now and the BBS stuff has kinda been put on the back burner for now.

Yeah understand that. I'm a few weeks away yet as the trailer is still
open until our thanksgiving weekend.

The VA prescribes me Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B complex pills that I
take ... guess they don't want to give me any more shots since I told
them I'm allergic to latex, heh.

Andrea is too, but they use different gloves for her. (Well our
doctors / dentists do)

Shawn

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Hi Shawn,

Yeah understand that. I'm a few weeks away yet as the trailer is still open until our thanksgiving weekend.

I removed about 70% of the filebase here last night. I noticed that a lot of my files don't have a description ... a new project to work on.

Andrea is too, but they use different gloves for her. (Well our
doctors / dentists do)

Disposable syringes have latex in them and that's what irritates me the most, oddly enough. Now I use injector pens for my daily insulin shots that do not have latex--just hard plastic and metal--so it is only when I have to use disposable needles is when there's problems. It's really a minor issue but the VA plays it up like it is a big issue.

--Sean

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Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

I removed about 70% of the filebase here last night. I noticed that a
lot of my files don't have a description ... a new project to work on.

Nice.

I have to use disposable needles is when there's problems. It's really
a minor issue but the VA plays it up like it is a big issue.

That figures. Any excuse in the book.

Shawn

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Hello Shawn,

Wednesday September 15 2021 03:59, you wrote to me:

Nice.

Trying to find a program to help me do the dirty work but I may wind up writing something on my own.

That figures. Any excuse in the book.

The same reason why the VA gives veteran problems: they hope we'll all die off.

-- Sean

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I get the flu shot yearly, the pneumonia shot, and a B12 shot monthly.

Other than having to get a TB test and an MMR booster when I started at my currently employer 22 years ago, I have not gotten anything since.

I take vitamins daily and fortunately don't get sick very often at all. I think I have been to the prompt care on average once every two or three years normally to get an antibiotic.

I recently did get the 1st Covid shot since my work is forcing it, and they are also forcing the flu vaccine. Even though we work 90% remotely.

At the end of the day, I'm not anti-vax or anything like that. I had accually considered getting the flu shot a few years ago after getting the flu one time 3 years ago pretty bad. That was very unusual for me to get that sick, so I figured it might not be a bad idea not to mention I'm not getting any younger.

I have to get the 2nd shot this Tuesday, and then next month have to get the flu shot. Fun times!

- Mark

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Mark Hofmann wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

I have to get the 2nd shot this Tuesday, and then next month have to
get the flu shot. Fun times!

The second shot is the worst. First one I had no side effects but the second one kicked my rear end. ;(

Shawn

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I have to get the 2nd shot this Tuesday, and then next month have to
get the flu shot. Fun times!

The second shot is the worst. First one I had no side effects but the second one kicked my rear end. ;(

For me, the first was worse but most people seem to have more trouble with
the second one, if they have any trouble.

Mike


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Mike Powell wrote to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

For me, the first was worse but most people seem to have more trouble
with the second one, if they have any trouble.

Andrea and my daughter had no issues what so ever. My son in law and I
both suffered badly from the second shot. (Him more then me)

Shawn

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The second shot is the worst. First one I had no side effects but the second one kicked my rear end. ;(

Sorry to hear that. What was the timeframe when you got the second one (how many days between)?

I waited the longest possible time for my work mandate, so there was a 42-day/6 week gap between 1st and 2nd. I did that for multiple reasons, including that I heard you get better results from waiting longer. Plus my work will likely force a booster at some point, and since I am really late to getting this, I'm clear for another 8+ months at least. Hopefully this crap is gone by then and people get over it and get on with life.

- Mark

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For me, the first was worse but most people seem to have more trouble
with the second one, if they have any trouble.

My bother had issues for 24 hours with both of them - just muscle aches, tired, etc. Nothing major. He had Covid back in the spring, which in his case was not as bad as some previous flus. He was actually still cutting the grass and doing stuff outside at that time.

I know it effects everyone differently, but fortunately all the personal cases I know of were nothing major. And I do know a good many that got it, and I probably was one of them but never got tested.

- Mark

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Mark Hofmann wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

Sorry to hear that. What was the timeframe when you got the second one (how many days between)?

6-8 weeks, we had shortages here and that was the quickest I could get it.

Shawn

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6-8 weeks, we had shortages here and that was the quickest I could get
it.

I think that turned out to be a benefit. I waited 6 weeks based on previous information and logic. I would have waited even longer, but I have a manditory work forced flu shot to get before Nov 1st and don't like mixing and matching that too close together no matter what they say...

- Mark

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