• Fall

    From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to All on Wed Aug 25 10:08:26 2021
    Hi everyone,

    It's still in the 90s here during the day but it's starting to get into the 60s at night ... I'm hoping that fall will get here sooner than later. Fall is my favorite season followed by spring.

    -- Sean


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Wed Aug 25 13:49:00 2021
    It's still in the 90s here during the day but it's starting to get into the 60s
    at night ... I'm hoping that fall will get here sooner than later. Fall is my >avorite season followed by spring.

    Mine also. There are things about Summer that are nice, but 90F heat and
    high humidity are not a part of those things.


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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 25 18:01:08 2021
    Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    Mine also. There are things about Summer that are nice, but 90F heat
    and high humidity are not a part of those things.

    My birthday is this Friday and I hate it being this time of year since I usually have to hide inside so I don't melt from the heat. I can deal with cold much easier though I discovered last winter that my deformed right foot does -not- like cold. In my apartment, I can run one of my oil-filled radiator heaters for a fairly efficent and radiant heat and be just fine.

    Then again, fall does have the "cute girls in sweaters" aspect too. <G>

    -- Sean

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Wed Aug 25 19:37:00 2021
    Sean,

    It's still in the 90s here during the day but it's starting to get into the 60s at night ... I'm hoping that fall will get here sooner than
    later. Fall is my favorite season followed by spring.

    A certain group of trees in west Little Rock start changing the leaf
    colors in late August or early September. I thought it was the arrival
    of cooler temperatures, but it's the decrease in daylight hours.

    Just over 125 days left until Christmas...better get your shopping done
    soon. <G>

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Wed Aug 25 19:39:00 2021
    Sean,

    My birthday is this Friday and I hate it being this time of year since
    I usually have to hide inside so I don't melt from the heat. I can
    deal with cold much easier though I discovered last winter that my deformed right foot does -not- like cold. In my apartment, I can run
    one of my oil-filled radiator heaters for a fairly efficent and radiant heat and be just fine.

    First, for your birthday, I see you angling for a new computer or HF rig
    <G>.

    Second, with being a heart patient now, I'm glad for each new day. I took
    a fellow BBS Sysop to lunch today at a local Denny's, and being an AARP
    member, I got a 15% discount.

    Then again, fall does have the "cute girls in sweaters" aspect too. <G>

    Or the country song, "All the girls get prettier at closing time". :)

    Daryl

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Thu Aug 26 14:08:00 2021
    Then again, fall does have the "cute girls in sweaters" aspect too. <G>

    And boots and leggings, too. :)

    Mike


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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 26 17:36:00 2021
    Mike,

    Then again, fall does have the "cute girls in sweaters" aspect too. <G>

    And boots and leggings, too. :)

    Just don't make them flesh tone...or it looks like one's nude.

    Daryl

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to All on Tue Sep 7 14:01:10 2021
    Hi everyone,

    The days are still quite warm here (80F/26.6C) but getting quite cool at night (65F/18.3C). The trees aren't quite starting to turn yet but I'm betting in the next few weeks we'll seeing gold, orange, and red colors everywhere.

    This is my absolute favorite time of year. I am a big sap for the holiday season also. :D

    For amateur radio operators, it means the beginning of 160 meter season too.


    -- Sean


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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Tue Sep 7 20:31:00 2021
    Sean,

    The days are still quite warm here (80F/26.6C) but getting quite cool
    at night (65F/18.3C). The trees aren't quite starting to turn yet but
    I'm betting in the next few weeks we'll seeing gold, orange, and red colors everywhere.

    Parts of north and central Arkansas were in the 50s this morning. I used
    to think you had to get a frost and freeze to get the leaves to change color, but it's the shortening of daylight hours.

    This is my absolute favorite time of year. I am a big sap for the
    holiday season also. :D

    Happy Hallowthanksmasnewyearvalentinepatrickeastermemorialindependencelaborcolumbus
    Day

    There!! We've gotten all the holidays out of the way in one whack. <G>

    For amateur radio operators, it means the beginning of 160 meter season too. <G>

    Now, if the bands will cooperate.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 8 06:43:41 2021
    Hello Sean!

    On 07 Sep 2021, Sean Dennis said the following...
    The days are still quite warm here (80F/26.6C) but getting quite cool at night (65F/18.3C). The trees aren't quite starting to turn yet but I'm betting in the next few weeks we'll seeing gold, orange, and red colors everywhere.

    Some trees have started turning here, and it has gotten a bit cooler (16-18C) lately and more windy than before.

    I like the colors but not the (anticipated) rain. :)

    This is my absolute favorite time of year. I am a big sap for the
    holiday season also. :D

    Oh yes, me too! :-D

    Best regards
    Björn

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 8 06:58:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to All <=-

    For amateur radio operators, it means the beginning of 160 meter season too.

    I've recently posted about putting ethernet between floors. I've been able
    to reduce my home network by an order of magnitude by having an AP on the
    top floor and my router on the bottom floor. I no longer need the powerline network running to my TV and to my office.

    With the powerline adapters out of the way, I can listen to shortwave radio again - they put out a lot of RFI and made listening impossible. Tonight I'm planning on running my spooled wire antenna out of my office door and play with my portable Sony shortwave, see what I can pick up.




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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 8 11:11:02 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Parts of north and central Arkansas were in the 50s this morning. I
    used to think you had to get a frost and freeze to get the leaves to change color, but it's the shortening of daylight hours.

    The plants know better than we do.

    There!! We've gotten all the holidays out of the way in one whack.

    I actually don't go "all out" for any holiday, really. July 4th I do like to hang a flag up in my window (not allowed to hang one on my porch!). Thanksgiving and Christmas, I enjoy putting an appropriate wreath on my front door. I do, when I have one, like putting up a Christmas tree. I have a perfect spot for it in my living room window for a tree this year if I can afford to get one (I prefer the small fake trees that fit in a closet for the other 330 days of the year).

    Now, if the bands will cooperate.

    My dad brought over my Buddipole and my small MFJ tuner. I'm going to see if I can get the 706 working. The Buddipole really needs new coils and telescopic arms (around $200 from the manufacturer) to rebuild it ... it's 13 years old and has been through a lot but it still works. This time, though, instead of getting the standard 6' arms, I'm going to get the 10' arms for better efficiency and more bandwidth on 40 meters. I -really- miss being on HF.

    Of course, there's two 150' tall trees across the parking lot taunting me about putting up a G5RV Junior in between them. <G>

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Zip on Wed Sep 8 11:13:06 2021
    Zip wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I like the colors but not the (anticipated) rain. :)

    We normally don't get the rain until much later in winter. Our big "snow months" are February and March.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Sep 8 11:16:08 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    With the powerline adapters out of the way, I can listen to shortwave radio again - they put out a lot of RFI and made listening impossible. Tonight I'm planning on running my spooled wire antenna out of my
    office door and play with my portable Sony shortwave, see what I can
    pick up.

    Our local power board was pimping BPL for a while then they dropped it, deciding that running fiber would be best. A lot of locals, not just the hams, complained about BPL.

    I don't expect to do much shortwave listening or amateur radio from home. I will probably wait and get a couple of golf cart batteries and wire them in series so I can operate remotely in the mountains, away from RFI and with some peace and quiet. I'd love to get a couple of portable solar panels to help charge those batteries while I'm operating.

    -- Sean

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  • From Kevin Nunn@618:200/1 to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 8 17:42:05 2021
    SEAN DENNIS wrote to ALL <=-

    The days are still quite warm here (80F/26.6C) but getting quite cool
    at night (65F/18.3C). The trees aren't quite starting to turn yet but

    Still 100+ degree days and high 70s at night here.

    This is my absolute favorite time of year. I am a big sap for the
    holiday season also. :D

    Same here, I love the holidays. I love watching holiday shows on TV,
    especially the old stuff. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, best time
    of the year.

    Kev

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Thu Sep 9 10:32:00 2021
    Sean,

    The plants know better than we do.

    It would seem so.

    I actually don't go "all out" for any holiday, really. July 4th I do
    like to hang a flag up in my window (not allowed to hang one on my porch!). Thanksgiving and Christmas, I enjoy putting an appropriate
    wreath on my front door. I do, when I have one, like putting up a Christmas tree. I have a perfect spot for it in my living room window
    for a tree this year if I can afford to get one (I prefer the small
    fake trees that fit in a closet for the other 330 days of the year).

    I used to have a couple of small ceramic trees. But, I got so burned
    out on the holidays over 20 years ago, for all the commercialism. I do
    not go to Christmas parties, cantatas, etc., and don't even put up
    decorations.

    My 3 favorite holidays are the ones with Peanuts:

    1) Halloween, where Linus suckers Sally into the Pumpkin Patch, and
    Snoopy gets into a fight with the Red Baron. They were amazed that
    the young girl who voiced Sally, as she grabbed Linus by the neck,
    screamed "You owe me restitution", that she didn't mess up the word. <G>

    2) Thanksgiving, where Snoopy gets in a fight with the lawn furniture,
    in setting up the table for the "meal" of popcorn, jelly beans, etc.
    Peppermint Patty felt she got ripped off, as the "traditional food"
    wasn't there (they got to graze on that later), but she had "invited
    herself".

    3) Christmas, where Linus recites the passage from the Biblical
    passage of Luke, Chapter 2. As she speaks the words of The Angel
    Of The Lord, he sets his security blanket down. I understand that
    when the others complained to Charles Schulz (Peanut's author)
    about the Christmas sequence, Schulz replied "If we don't do it,
    who will??".

    My dad brought over my Buddipole and my small MFJ tuner. I'm going to
    see if I can get the 706 working. The Buddipole really needs new coils and telescopic arms (around $200 from the manufacturer) to rebuild it
    ... it's 13 years old and has been through a lot but it still works.
    This time, though, instead of getting the standard 6' arms, I'm going
    to get the 10' arms for better efficiency and more bandwidth on 40
    meters. I -really- miss being on HF.

    The only time I'm on the air now is for nets, or sked requests. The
    last time I worked HF was 20 meter HF railroad mobile on the Arkansas
    And Missouri Railroad during Memorial Day Weekend 10 years ago. If you
    search on YouTube for Arkansas And Missouri Railroad Memorial Day Troop
    Train, you get to see me operating...even with train whistles in the background.

    Of course, there's two 150' tall trees across the parking lot taunting
    me about putting up a G5RV Junior in between them. <G>

    More like 2 big lightning rods.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Thu Sep 9 10:34:00 2021
    Sean,

    We normally don't get the rain until much later in winter. Our big
    "snow months" are February and March.

    We had a big Christmas Day snow in 2012 (the first time that had occurred since 1926)...then this past February, back to back snowstorms turned the
    state into a winter wonderland. The Christmas Day storm brought nearly a
    foot of snow to Little Rock...this past February's back to back snowstorms nearly doubled that. Nothing moved for several days.

    I remember back in January, 1985...it got down to -6 at Little Rock, and
    we had 9 inches of snow on the ground. This past February, it fell to -1.

    Daryl

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kevin Nunn on Sun Sep 12 15:20:06 2021
    Kevin Nunn wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Still 100+ degree days and high 70s at night here.

    Being that far south, summer probably runs much longer for you.

    Same here, I love the holidays. I love watching holiday shows on TV, especially the old stuff. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, best time
    of the year.

    Yeah, same here. It will be better next year I hope.

    -- Sean

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Kevin Nunn on Sat Sep 18 09:40:20 2021
    Same here, I love the holidays. I love watching holiday shows on TV, especially the old stuff. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, best time
    of the year.

    My wife will have the Hallmark channel going all the time around those timeframes.

    Old TV shows are generally far better than anything new. We have been watching Happy Days every night, lately. For anyone that asks why I have 100+TB of storage on a 36 drive server, that is why. :)

    - Mark

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  • From Kevin Nunn@618:200/1 to Mark Hofmann on Sun Sep 19 12:25:05 2021
    MARK HOFMANN wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

    Old TV shows are generally far better than anything new. We have been watching Happy Days every night, lately. For anyone that asks why I
    have 100+TB of storage on a 36 drive server, that is why. :)

    That sounds fun! There is some new series that I will watch but it's
    only from streaming services. And I watch a lot of old stuff too. I am currently rewatching Star Trek Discovery for the new season starting in
    a month or 2. Besides that I don't keep up with many current shows.

    Kev

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Sep 20 21:20:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    The days are still quite warm here (80F/26.6C) but getting quite cool
    at night (65F/18.3C). The trees aren't quite starting to turn yet but
    I'm betting in the next few weeks we'll seeing gold, orange, and red colors everywhere.

    Parts of north and central Arkansas were in the 50s this morning. I
    used to think you had to get a frost and freeze to get the leaves to change color, but it's the shortening of daylight hours.

    I heard something on Says You, I think it was, that the Fall colors are
    the ACTUAL colors of the leaves. They are green during the summer because
    they are filled with Chlorophyll. I found that interesting.

    I'm also ready for COOL weather, but not cold. :-)

    This is my absolute favorite time of year. I am a big sap for the
    holiday season also. :D

    For amateur radio operators, it means the beginning of 160 meter season too. <G>

    Now, if the bands will cooperate.

    Well, we are having our floors replaced, so my 'base station' has been
    put on hold. :-)

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even
    turn it on most of the time... :-(





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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 02:25:16 2021
    Hello JIMMY,

    Monday September 20 2021 21:20, you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even turn it on most of the time... :-(

    Same here. I'm a HF guy myself. SSB is my main mode but I love some digital modes like Feld Hell, PSK Feld 105, SSTV, THOR 8, OLIVIA 8/250 & 8/500 ... I love a good ragchew no matter the mode.

    Daryl, what do you think about an Echolink net for us Micronet hams?

    -- Sean

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Tue Sep 21 17:48:00 2021
    Sean,

    Daryl, what do you think about an Echolink net for us Micronet hams?

    Not a bad idea. Where and when?? :)

    The thing is, I have an Excel Spreadsheet in Eastern, Central, Mountain,
    and Pacific Time, of around 200 nets...mostly D-Star, then Echolink, and a
    few D-Rats nets for good measure. Right now, Wednesday and Thursday are my
    "off nights". But, whenever you schedule something, no matter what it is, someone, somewhere, won't make it. Yet, I'd love to add that to the Excel Spreadsheet lists.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Sep 21 17:51:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    I heard something on Says You, I think it was, that the Fall colors are the ACTUAL colors of the leaves. They are green during the summer
    because they are filled with Chlorophyll. I found that interesting.

    It was me, and that is true. It also depends on the decreasing amount of sunlight, the temperatures, and the amount of rainfall, on when the leaves start turning, and if the fall foliage is spectacular, or a dud. :P

    I'm also ready for COOL weather, but not cold. :-)

    A strong cold front moved through Arkansas earlier today...with some
    severe thunderstorm warnings southeast of Little Rock for 60 mph winds,
    and half dollar sized hail. We won't get out of the 70's again until
    Friday. Has anyone heard what the wooly worms are predicting for the
    winter?? I need to go buy the new Farmers Almanac for its winter outlook, although I tend to go with what the National Weather Service says.

    Well, we are having our floors replaced, so my 'base station' has been
    put on hold. :-)

    I spent the last 10 days off the air, because the registry for the Lenovo Windows 10 laptop had gotten severly corrupted...and I couldn't do D-Star.
    The only modes I could do were Echolink, Packet Via Telnet, D-Rats, and Winlink 2000. But, I've got to reinstall those programs to get them
    working again. At least I can do D-Star again with the BlueDV program.

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even turn it on most of the time... :-(

    Sadly, except for nets, repeaters are dead as a doornail.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 22 02:24:20 2021
    Hi Daryl,

    Not a bad idea. Where and when?? :)

    It will be a while for me since I need a computer headset badly. I have QTel (Linux Echolink client) installed; I just have to connect to Echolink's servers. After that, we can set up a server. Might be fun to get the hams from my BBS Facebook group on also.

    -- Sean KS4TD

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Kevin Nunn on Wed Sep 22 17:33:00 2021
    That sounds fun! There is some new series that I will watch but it's
    only from streaming services. And I watch a lot of old stuff too. I am currently rewatching Star Trek Discovery for the new season starting in
    a month or 2. Besides that I don't keep up with many current shows.

    I have a huge amount of classic TV shows. I just love them and started collecting them many years ago. Even some that never made it to DVD and were only on TV (like a classic called BJ and the Bear).

    My wife loves watching the Love Boat. I don't mind it either, since I can appreciate the 70s much more now at my age than I did when I was a little kid at the time it was out.. :)

    - Mark

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Mark Hofmann on Sat Sep 18 08:07:00 2021
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Kevin Nunn <=-

    Old TV shows are generally far better than anything new. We have been watching Happy Days every night, lately. For anyone that asks why I
    have 100+TB of storage on a 36 drive server, that is why. :)

    I thought I was doing OK with my new network (gigabit to my office instead
    of powerline ethernet) and a new NAS with 1.1 GB worth of media.

    I've only got 5 drives in mine, hate to see your power bill. :)


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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Sep 24 09:06:11 2021
    I thought I was doing OK with my new network (gigabit to my office
    instead of powerline ethernet) and a new NAS with 1.1 GB worth of media.

    I've only got 5 drives in mine, hate to see your power bill. :)

    Many people think my power bill would be really high, but honestly it isn't. If I turned off all tech in the house, I might save $50-$80 month. I'm fine with paying that much for what I do for a living and also a hobby.

    My home PC uses more power than my server since I have (3) Nvidia GPUs doing crypto mining. I make more than enough on them per month to pay for all my power/tech at home. We also have cheap power here at the moment at just 6 cents per kwh.

    - Mark

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Mark Hofmann on Fri Sep 24 07:39:00 2021
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Many people think my power bill would be really high, but honestly it isn't. If I turned off all tech in the house, I might save $50-$80
    month. I'm fine with paying that much for what I do for a living and
    also a hobby.

    When I started realitycheckBBS in 1991, I was worried about the power draw
    of having an IBM AT clone (!) running 24/7. I was living in a studio
    apartment in a beautiful old building with steam heat, and being in my 20s, working/going out most of the time.

    My PG&E bill went from $12 to $18. Those were the days. :)



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  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to Mark Hofmann on Fri Sep 24 17:22:30 2021
    On 24 Sep 2021, Mark Hofmann said the following...

    We also have cheap power here at the moment at just 6 cents per kwh.

    Wow, that IS cheap!

    Here in Ontario we're on Time of Use rates where electricity costs:

    8.2 cents /kWh (7pm - 7am)
    11.3 cents /kWh (7am - 11am & 5pm - 7pm)
    17.0 cents /kWh (11am - 5pm)

    The times change slightly during the winter months.


    Jay

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Sep 26 07:56:43 2021
    When I started realitycheckBBS in 1991, I was worried about the power
    draw of having an IBM AT clone (!) running 24/7. I was living in a studio apartment in a beautiful old building with steam heat, and being in my
    20s, working/going out most of the time.

    My PG&E bill went from $12 to $18. Those were the days. :)

    Yeah, I have always tried to keep energy usage in mind as much as possible. That was one of the big reasons I moved to these large servers so I could virtualize all the desktops that I was using as servers.

    At one time I think I had near 20 PCs running 20x7, so moving many of them to VMs on a big server ended up saving me money.

    The (2) Supermicro servers that I have running 24x7 average around 700 watts total (350 watts each). My personal PC uses close to 800 watts by itself, mainly due to the (3) GPUs. Add in a few 48 port switches, firewall, my wife's PC, my son's PC, probably around 2500-3000 watts per hour on all the stuff together.

    At 7 cents per kwh, that would be around $5 day. That might be on the high side, but $155 month for all of it. My total power bill (natural gas and electricity) is normally between $300-$400 month. Any time i get it around $350, especially in the summer, I'm super happy.

    I used to have a hot tub and in ground pool in my old house 16 years ago. I paid around the same back then, as hot tubs really add to the power bill. I ended up giving the hot tub away since it cost more to run than the use I was getting out of it.

    - Mark

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Warpslide on Sun Sep 26 08:11:46 2021
    Here in Ontario we're on Time of Use rates where electricity costs:

    8.2 cents /kWh (7pm - 7am)
    11.3 cents /kWh (7am - 11am & 5pm - 7pm)
    17.0 cents /kWh (11am - 5pm)

    One thing that helped us here in Maryland is when they allowed for competition for power and natural gas. We can get contracts with power providers and natural gas providers that offer sales in Maryland. There are a good many of them these days.

    This way, I can buy cheap electricity from companies that offer it and the same with natural gas. Unfortunately it does appear rates are on the rise here now so my next contract will likely be more.

    At the current time, I have 5.9 cents/kwh for 6 months and 29 cents per therm of natural gas. At the end of December, I'll have to shop around and see what I can find to try and keep them as low as possible.

    - Mark


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  • From Nick Andre@618:500/24 to Mark Hofmann on Sun Sep 26 23:45:03 2021
    On 26 Sep 21 08:11:46, Mark Hofmann said the following to Warpslide:

    At the current time, I have 5.9 cents/kwh for 6 months and 29 cents per the of natural gas. At the end of December, I'll have to shop around and see w I can find to try and keep them as low as possible.

    To add to this convo, along the lines of having a "recipe for boiling water", my electric/hydro bill is about $120 CDN a month for a tiny 2 bedroom apartment, with that rack system running 24/7, lizards/snakes/fish with heaters and related 24/7 life-support systems, constant stove usage, a home theatre setup and a wonderful teenage daughter leaving lights on all the time.

    Nick

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Nick Andre on Mon Sep 27 08:58:13 2021
    To add to this convo, along the lines of having a "recipe for boiling water",
    my electric/hydro bill is about $120 CDN a month for a tiny 2 bedroom apartment, with that rack system running 24/7, lizards/snakes/fish with heaters and related 24/7 life-support systems, constant stove usage, a
    home theatre setup and a wonderful teenage daughter leaving lights on all the time.

    Years ago when we still had all the kids living here (all 6 of them) and pre-LED lights, I had power bills over $500/month - especially in the summer.

    With just myself, wife, and our son, all the tech stuff, and regular odds and ends we average in the upper $300 range month/US at the moment.

    I do have a 5 ton HVAC system and 120k BTU natural gas furnace which is the largest single system you can have in a home.

    - Mark

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  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to Nick Andre on Mon Sep 27 09:34:07 2021
    On 26 Sep 2021, Nick Andre said the following...

    a wonderful teenage daughter leaving lights on all the time.

    I remember my Dad saying things like this to my sister & I when we were growing up. If I close my eyes and listen hard enough I can still hear the echo of "Jason! Close the g0* d@(# door! We're not heating Muskoka!" in the wind...

    I'm also reminded of these scene from Family Guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pwwx1cF8NQ


    Jay

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Mark Hofmann on Mon Sep 27 10:00:00 2021
    Mark,

    With just myself, wife, and our son, all the tech stuff, and regular
    odds and ends we average in the upper $300 range month/US at the
    moment.

    With Entergy Arkansas (electricity), I have levelized billing, so there
    is only a slight variation between the bill from month to month. I also
    have the same with Center Point Energy (gas). I've had to run the heat
    a few times in recent days, as it got chilly overnight. Unfortunately,
    there is no such deal on the water and trash. I use as little water as
    possible (since I live alone), so the bill averages around $75 a month.
    The electric and gas bills range from $50 to $90, depending on the time
    of year. They'd be much more otherwise...and the levelized billing really
    helps if you're on a fixed income (like I am).

    Daryl

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Nick Andre on Mon Sep 27 07:28:00 2021
    Nick Andre wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-

    constant stove usage, a home theatre setup and a wonderful teenage daughter leaving lights on all the time.

    I'm amazed at how many lights I turn off per day. It's got to be a game now.


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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Mark Hofmann on Wed Sep 29 13:46:14 2021
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    With just myself, wife, and our son, all the tech stuff,
    and regular odds and ends we average in the upper $300
    range month/US at the moment.

    My electric bill is normally under $70/month for me. I'm paying about 7 cents/kwh. It's just me but the damned wall-mounted heat pump is
    inefficient; it cools off the living room and kitchen but I need a floor circulating fan to move that cool air into the bedroom and bathroom. All of
    my lighting in the apartment is LED and I do have three desktops running
    all the time. I'm about to knock it down to two small desktops ... just
    trying to save money since I am not paying my electric bill right now (non-profits are helping me).

    -- Sean

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 29 18:44:21 2021
    My electric bill is normally under $70/month for me. I'm paying about 7 cents/kwh. It's just me but the damned wall-mounted heat pump is inefficient; it cools off the living room and kitchen but I need a floor circulating fan to move that cool air into the bedroom and bathroom. All
    of my lighting in the apartment is LED and I do have three desktops
    running all the time. I'm about to knock it down to two small desktops
    ... just trying to save money since I am not paying my electric bill
    right now (non-profits are helping me).

    Heat pumps are horrible - especially for heat. They cost a fortune to run and don't even warm up that much. It is a cheap and easy way for builders to get HVAC into some homes.

    I would much rather have natural gas, propane, or oil heat. Anything buy a heat pump. Never had one in any of the homes I have lived. I have had oil and natural gas.

    - Mark

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 29 18:48:48 2021
    My electric bill is normally under $70/month for me. I'm paying about 7 cents/kwh. It's just me but the damned wall-mounted heat pump is inefficient; it cools off the living room and kitchen but I need a floor circulating fan to move that cool air into the bedroom and bathroom. All
    of my lighting in the apartment is LED and I do have three desktops
    running all the time. I'm about to knock it down to two small desktops
    ... just trying to save money since I am not paying my electric bill
    right now (non-profits are helping me).

    I just remembered there was a home on the other side of the street where I grew up that used coal for heat. It was great, but damn did that stuff make a mess.
    - Mark

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Mark Hofmann on Thu Sep 30 03:20:32 2021
    Re: Re: Fall
    By: Mark Hofmann to Sean Dennis on Wed Sep 29 2021 06:44 pm

    Heat pumps are horrible - especially for heat. They cost a fortune to run and don't even warm u
    that much. It is a cheap and easy way for builders to get HVAC into some homes.

    I would much rather have natural gas, propane, or oil heat. Anything buy a heat pump. Never ha
    one in any of the homes I have lived. I have had oil and natural gas.


    Heat pumps are great but they are only great withing a tight range of temperatures.

    If it is too cold outside (when you need the heating the most) then their efficency plummets down
    like a falling brick. Under 3 ªC or so you risk developing frost in the evaporator, which kills
    any chance of it working well. There are manufacturers who say they can push their units bellow -1'
    ªC but I don't buy that.

    Heat pumps shine in hybrid deployments. This is when you have a pump or set of pumps connected in
    tandom with a regular oil or gas heater. This way, you can use an automatic controller for enabling
    the heat pumps when they are most efficient, and switch to a regular boiler on-the-fly when pumps
    stop being cost effective.

    Bonus points because you can also revert the pumps and get cool air-conditionning in summer with
    some tweaks in the setup.

    Gotta love Engineering, so useful for Micronet conversations :-)

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Mark Hofmann on Sat Oct 2 18:35:02 2021
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I would much rather have natural gas, propane, or oil heat.
    Anything buy a heat pump. Never had one in any of the
    homes I have lived. I have had oil and natural gas.

    My parents have a pellet stove that is very efficient and easy to use. If I get a home, I want to get a pellet stove in it also. Oil and natural gas
    are available here but they both are much more expensive.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Arelor on Sat Oct 2 19:04:16 2021
    Arelor wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-

    Gotta love Engineering, so useful for Micronet conversations :-)

    I consider it an honor to have so many smart people in Micronet.

    -- Sean

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Sat Oct 2 20:23:00 2021
    Hello Sean Dennis!

    ** On Saturday 02.10.21 - 18:35, Sean Dennis wrote to Mark Hofmann:

    My parents have a pellet stove that is very efficient and
    easy to use. If I get a home, I want to get a pellet stove
    in it also. Oil and natural gas are available here but
    they both are much more expensive.

    I had considered pellet at one time. But if hydro goes out, the
    pellet feeder would be useless. Not sure if you could operate
    the stove at optimum efficiency, or even at all, without hydro.

    A propane stove would remain the only viable choice to keep a
    house warm during an outtage, in my view.


    --
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 3 04:31:37 2021
    Re: Fall
    By: August Abolins to Sean Dennis on Sat Oct 02 2021 08:23 pm

    Hello Sean Dennis!

    ** On Saturday 02.10.21 - 18:35, Sean Dennis wrote to Mark Hofmann:

    My parents have a pellet stove that is very efficient and
    easy to use. If I get a home, I want to get a pellet stove
    in it also. Oil and natural gas are available here but
    they both are much more expensive.

    I had considered pellet at one time. But if hydro goes out, the
    pellet feeder would be useless. Not sure if you could operate
    the stove at optimum efficiency, or even at all, without hydro.

    A propane stove would remain the only viable choice to keep a
    house warm during an outtage, in my view.


    --
    ../|ug

    I thought you were more old school than that.

    At home we have traditional oil heating, but we also stockpile a big stash of wood for lighting the
    chimney out if need be. Our boiler is a bit old and I'd rather have an emergency plan if it
    goes kaput.

    If we run out of lumber we can start burnnig horse poop. We have about 4 tonnes of this fuel in the
    backyard. The energy crisis is a myth, I tell you :-)


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Arelor on Sun Oct 3 08:51:00 2021
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 03.10.21 - 04:31, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

    I had considered pellet at one time. But if [...]

    A propane stove would remain the only viable choice to keep
    a house warm during an outtage, in my view. [...]

    I thought you were more old school than that.

    My house was originally designed with only electric-heat
    (baseboards) in mind. Mom added a fireplace in the design, but
    that was only for occassional use. Three years later when
    electicity prices quadrupled, we added two top-loading wood
    stoves (one on the lower level and one on the upper level of
    the split-level home) and used that for decades. We gathered
    wood from our own farm property.

    But now.. living on my own, I'm not really interested in
    managing a wood stockpile (and the whole mess and chimney-
    cleaning it requires). I'd rather just turn a dial and get the
    heat that way, so I'm back to baseboard. The overall yearly
    cost is actually about the same.

    Last year, there was a power outtage that urged me to consider
    having a little stockpile of wood, just in case. I'm doing
    that now. I haven't started using any baseboard-electric heat
    yet this year. I just fire up the stove long enough to take
    out the worst of the chill with scrap wood that I can find
    laying around the property.

    At home we have traditional oil heating, but we also
    stockpile a big stash of wood for lighting the chimney out
    if need be. Our boiler is a bit old and I'd rather have an
    emergency plan if it goes kaput.

    My plan is to go hop in the car and take a drive to the shop.


    If we run out of lumber we can start burnnig horse poop. We
    have about 4 tonnes of this fuel in the backyard. The
    energy crisis is a myth, I tell you :-)

    Hmmm.. maybe I should gather some horse shit from my neighbor
    across the road!

    I suppose the little version of it from goats would be
    considered the pellet variety. :D
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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Sun Oct 3 09:26:00 2021
    Sean,

    I consider it an honor to have so many smart people in Micronet.

    We are your humble servants. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Tiny@618:500/32 to August Abolins on Mon Oct 4 11:25:06 2021
    August Abolins wrote to Arelor <=-

    But now.. living on my own, I'm not really interested in
    managing a wood stockpile (and the whole mess and chimney-
    cleaning it requires).

    The thing about keeping a wood stockpile and heating that way is
    you stay in shape with all that chopping and splitting of the logs.

    One house I rented had a oil / wood combo furnace. I could choose
    to use oil or wood. I found it was at least an hour of work every
    day dealing with the wood and as soon as I could afford to fill
    the oil tank again I made the call. LOL

    yet this year. I just fire up the stove long enough to take
    out the worst of the chill with scrap wood that I can find
    laying around the property.

    You're out walking around anyway, makes sense.

    My plan is to go hop in the car and take a drive to the shop.

    Our backup plan is to hop in the car and idle it with heat until
    the building gets power again.

    Shawn

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Sean Dennis on Sun Oct 3 08:09:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Mark Hofmann <=-

    My parents have a pellet stove that is very efficient and easy to use.
    If I get a home, I want to get a pellet stove in it also. Oil and
    natural gas are available here but they both are much more expensive.

    We have a small wood stove that requires small rounds, and started using pellets in their place. They are much more efficient, burn cleanly, and I
    can get a load of pellets to last all night without stoking.

    This is up near Lake Tahoe, CA. The key is to buy pellets down here in the flatlands where they cost 1/3 of the price!


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Sean Dennis on Sun Oct 3 08:11:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Arelor <=-

    I consider it an honor to have so many smart people in Micronet.

    I'm in Micronet for the monthly "donation" tribute from my downlinks.

    Wait, you guys don't...?


    ... Repetition is a form of change
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 3 08:12:00 2021
    August Abolins wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I had considered pellet at one time. But if hydro goes out, the
    pellet feeder would be useless.

    I AM THE PELLET FEEDER.

    Then again, I have a little stove in a 960 sq foot cabin, I just toss a
    scoop on every couple of hours.


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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Tiny on Mon Oct 4 13:06:05 2021
    Re: Fall
    By: Tiny to August Abolins on Mon Oct 04 2021 11:25 am

    One house I rented had a oil / wood combo furnace. I could choose
    to use oil or wood. I found it was at least an hour of work every
    day dealing with the wood and as soon as I could afford to fill
    the oil tank again I made the call. LOL

    I mix old with new school and just use a chainsaw.

    A friend of mine has a picture of myself holding the chainsaw like a psycho. It is from the time when I
    didn't take any care of my beard so I look like a combination of Spanish redneck with Middle-East
    terrorist. I am sure he uses the picture to scare children away or something :-P

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  • From Kevin Nunn@618:200/1 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Oct 4 16:18:14 2021
    KURT WEISKE wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    I'm in Micronet for the monthly "donation" tribute from my downlinks.

    Wait, you guys don't...?

    WHAT?!?!?! :P

    Kev

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Oct 4 16:52:06 2021
    We have a small wood stove that requires small rounds, and started using pellets in their place. They are much more efficient, burn cleanly, and I can get a load of pellets to last all night without stoking.

    This is up near Lake Tahoe, CA. The key is to buy pellets down here in
    the flatlands where they cost 1/3 of the price!

    I had purchased a pellot stove for the basement of my previous home. That fireplace would create some massive heat. It is best if you can get it to go into a return or something to circulate through the home. I had no return near it, so the basement would get to be 80+ degrees and the other levels would be comfortable.

    It was many years ago when I bought it back when pellots were cheap (as they should be). They are just pressed wood. I had bought an entire pallot of them for around $100 back then. That same amount would probably be $1000 now. It is insane. Cheaper to burn tires.

    - Mark

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  • From Tiny@618:500/32 to Arelor on Tue Oct 5 09:39:08 2021
    Arelor wrote to Tiny <=-

    I mix old with new school and just use a chainsaw.

    Yeah I suppose that works too. I just always split it
    with an ax.

    A friend of mine has a picture of myself holding the chainsaw like a psycho. It is from the time when I didn't take any care of my beard so
    I look like a combination of Spanish redneck with Middle-East
    terrorist. I am sure he uses the picture to scare children away or something :-P

    Laugh, I currently have a wildman beard. No real reason except I felt
    like it.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to August Abolins on Sat Oct 9 13:02:00 2021
    A propane stove would remain the only viable choice to keep a
    house warm during an outtage, in my view.

    Pellet stoves have a battery backup or had you not seen that?

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Mark Hofmann on Sat Oct 9 13:57:06 2021
    Mark Hofmann wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    were cheap (as they should be). They are just pressed
    wood. I had bought an entire pallot of them for around
    $100 back then. That same amount would probably be $1000
    now. It is insane. Cheaper to burn tires.

    Out here it's about $250 for a pallet; my parents use their pellet stove as their primary source of heat during the winter. A pallet will usually last them an entire season (about four months of constant use). Much, much
    cheaper than using the heat pump for heat.

    In my apartment, I have a wall-mounted heat pump for climate control but
    during the winter, I'll hide in the bedroom with an oil-filled electric radiator heater. Quite efficent and no need to heat the rest of the
    apartment when my computer is in the bedroom.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Oct 9 22:29:10 2021
    I'm in Micronet for the monthly "donation" tribute from my downlinks.

    Wait, you guys don't...?

    No one accepts Fidobucks anymore. :(

    -- Sean

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Sean Dennis on Wed Oct 13 18:29:26 2021
    Out here it's about $250 for a pallet; my parents use their pellet stove
    as their primary source of heat during the winter. A pallet will usually last them an entire season (about four months of constant use). Much,
    much cheaper than using the heat pump for heat.

    Granted this was probably 25 years ago, I remember paying $100 for a pallet of pellets. Just compressed wood - but then again wood prices are higher than gold bars right now.

    In my apartment, I have a wall-mounted heat pump for climate control but during the winter, I'll hide in the bedroom with an oil-filled electric radiator heater. Quite efficent and no need to heat the rest of the apartment when my computer is in the bedroom.

    My home office PC heats not only my office, but the entire hallway outside it. I just received my 1200 watt ppower supply so that I will have the ability to add a 5th video card, so my setup doubles as a mini-furnace. The PC and 4 video cards really put off some heat when running full tilt 24/7.

    - Mark

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to SEAN DENNIS on Thu Oct 14 11:02:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even turn it on most of the time... :-(

    Same here. I'm a HF guy myself. SSB is my main mode but I love some digital modes like Feld Hell, PSK Feld 105, SSTV, THOR 8, OLIVIA 8/250
    & 8/500 ... I love a good ragchew no matter the mode.

    I have my general. MIGHT get something in the future...

    Daryl, what do you think about an Echolink net for us Micronet hams?

    Oooh! That might be cool!!!





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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Oct 14 11:08:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I'm also ready for COOL weather, but not cold. :-)

    A strong cold front moved through Arkansas earlier today...with some severe thunderstorm warnings southeast of Little Rock for 60 mph winds, and half dollar sized hail. We won't get out of the 70's again until Friday. Has anyone heard what the wooly worms are predicting for the winter?? I need to go buy the new Farmers Almanac for its winter
    outlook, although I tend to go with what the National Weather Service says.

    Preacher said something the other day about the Farmers Almanac mentioned
    a bad winter, but I don't know the details.

    Well, we are having our floors replaced, so my 'base station' has been
    put on hold. :-)

    I spent the last 10 days off the air, because the registry for the Lenovo Windows 10 laptop had gotten severly corrupted...and I couldn't
    do D-Star. The only modes I could do were Echolink, Packet Via Telnet, D-Rats, and Winlink 2000. But, I've got to reinstall those programs to
    get them working again. At least I can do D-Star again with the BlueDV program.

    One of these days I'll get back to it...

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even turn it on most of the time... :-(

    Sadly, except for nets, repeaters are dead as a doornail.

    Yep.





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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Oct 16 13:59:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Preacher said something the other day about the Farmers Almanac
    mentioned a bad winter, but I don't know the details.

    I'm still wanting to know what the wooly worms are saying. <G>

    Well, we are having our floors replaced, so my 'base station' has been
    put on hold. :-)

    Something always gets in the way of our hobbies.

    One of these days I'll get back to it...

    I do nets on weekend afternoons (3rd Saturday, and every Sunday), Friday morning, then Monday, Tuesday, and Friday evening. That's enough.

    I do have an HT by the bed, but locally 2m/440 is so dead I don't even turn it on most of the time... :-(

    They used to be during morning and afternoon drive time...not any more.

    Sadly, except for nets, repeaters are dead as a doornail.

    Yep.

    Then, when we lose them for lack of usage, is when folks will complain vociferously.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Oct 16 14:11:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Daryl, what do you think about an Echolink net for us Micronet hams?

    Oooh! That might be cool!!!

    I just hope I can fit it into my net schedule. :P

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Arelor on Sat Oct 23 08:32:23 2021
    Heat pumps are great but they are only great withing a tight range of temperatures.
    If it is too cold outside (when you need the heating the most) then their efficency plummets down
    like a falling brick. Under 3 C or so you risk developing frost in the evaporator, which kills
    any chance of it working well. There are manufacturers who say they can
    push their units bellow -1'
    C but I don't buy that.

    Yes, once the heat pumps are on "auxilary heat", which around here is pretty much half of the winter, that is like running your stove and 50 hair dryers. It uses tons of power to keep things even modestly warm.

    For the climate around here, I would rather use pretty much anything other than a heat pump.

    I do lots of Intel/AMD and NVidia heating in my house. I cut a hole in the air return in the basement and when the fan runs, it pulls the heat our of my server room and sends it through the house. The upstairs gets auxilary heat from my PC with 4 video cards. I have a fan that blows all the heat out of my home office into the rest of the upstairs. It keeps me from having to turn on the natural gas heat as early and often.

    - Mark

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to MARK HOFMANN on Sat Oct 23 11:50:00 2021
    Yes, once the heat pumps are on "auxilary heat", which around here is pretty m
    h half of the winter, that is like running your stove and 50 hair dryers. It u
    s tons of power to keep things even modestly warm.

    For the climate around here, I would rather use pretty much anything other tha
    a heat pump.

    You must have some other source, or meaning, of "auxilary heat." At my previous house, when the outside AC unit and inside coils needed replacing,
    I looked at my options and went with the heat pump. Since my house was
    already set up for gas heat, the gas heat became my auxilary source.

    That was back when natural gas prices were soaring. I used gas a lot in January, but most other cold months I would guess it was only used 50% at
    most, and mostly only at night. The rest of the time the heat pump heated
    the house and it worked very well.

    If I ever have to replace things here, that is the way I hope to go.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Tue Oct 26 13:55:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Well, we are having our floors replaced, so my 'base station' has been
    put on hold. :-)

    Something always gets in the way of our hobbies.

    True! Life is what happens while we're making plans, or something like
    that. :-)

    I have been able to play some games, though, so that's good! That's a
    prime hobby of mine as well.

    Sadly, except for nets, repeaters are dead as a doornail.

    Yep.

    Then, when we lose them for lack of usage, is when folks will
    complain vociferously.

    TRUE!




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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Oct 27 05:37:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    True! Life is what happens while we're making plans, or something like that. :-)

    Yeah, I think that's it.

    I have been able to play some games, though, so that's good! That's a prime hobby of mine as well.

    Right now, I'm just doing QWK Mail, and playing 2 of the "Casino Doors"
    on the BBS, and that's it. Thunderstorms will be in here later today, so
    I'm up early to do my BBS work...and having an IBS attack overnight didn't
    help matters.

    Then, when we lose them for lack of usage, is when folks will
    complain vociferously.

    TRUE!

    It used to be where you had to log a minimum number of hours in ham
    radio to keep your license...as well as keeping a log. Both of those requirements went away long ago.

    As for myself, I'm on the air for several nets during the week, including:

    1) QCWA Digital Net on Sunday afternoon
    2) Hotspot Raspberry Pi SBC ZumSpot Net Monday evening
    3) Arklatex D-Star Net Tuesday evening
    4) QCWA CQ100 Net Friday morning
    5) Trains Net Friday evening
    6) Food Net the 3rd Saturday afternoon.

    Except for the Arklatex D-Star Net and the QCWA CQ100 Net, I'm on the
    QuadNet Array (openquad.net) with D-Star, DMR, WIRES-X, and Fusion. I
    usually start early checkins 30 minutes to an hour before the net, then
    the nets run 30 to 60 minutes...sometimes longer.

    It's rare I just checkin to another net anymore...for the massive
    pile-up of checkins at the start of the net. I might as well wait until
    the net is about over.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Oct 28 08:28:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I have been able to play some games, though, so that's good! That's a prime hobby of mine as well.

    Right now, I'm just doing QWK Mail, and playing 2 of the "Casino
    Doors" on the BBS, and that's it. Thunderstorms will be in here later today, so I'm up early to do my BBS work...and having an IBS attack overnight didn't help matters.

    Well, when I say games, I mean board games. :-) I ordered and recieved the expansion for Stone Age. :-)

    It used to be where you had to log a minimum number of hours in ham radio to keep your license...as well as keeping a log. Both of those requirements went away long ago.

    As for myself, I'm on the air for several nets during the week, including:

    1) QCWA Digital Net on Sunday afternoon
    2) Hotspot Raspberry Pi SBC ZumSpot Net Monday evening
    3) Arklatex D-Star Net Tuesday evening
    4) QCWA CQ100 Net Friday morning
    5) Trains Net Friday evening
    6) Food Net the 3rd Saturday afternoon.

    Only two nets close by that I could join... So not a big deal for me. :-)

    I have access to a Pi, but never did anything with it...





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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Oct 29 09:01:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Well, when I say games, I mean board games. :-) I ordered and recieved
    the expansion for Stone Age. :-)

    I had started downloading a route with Auran Trainz, but had to abort it,
    as the system locked up. I never did go back to finish it.

    Only two nets close by that I could join... So not a big deal for me.
    :-)

    I just run everything from the house.

    I have access to a Pi, but never did anything with it...

    I don't know much about a Raspberry Pi (even though I'm one of the net controls for the HotSpot Raspberry Pi SBC and ZumSpot Net on Monday nights
    on the QuadNet Array), but a pineapple upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. <G>

    The thing is, they needed a net control station to help out. However,
    I will admit that most of the items discussed I have not much interest in.

    But, without either a net control or checkins, there'd be no need for a
    net.

    Daryl

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Nov 8 09:39:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Jimmy,

    Well, when I say games, I mean board games. :-) I ordered and recieved
    the expansion for Stone Age. :-)

    I had started downloading a route with Auran Trainz, but had to abort it, as the system locked up. I never did go back to finish it.

    A route? Is that a game?

    Only two nets close by that I could join... So not a big deal for me.
    :-)

    I just run everything from the house.

    I have access to a Pi, but never did anything with it...

    I don't know much about a Raspberry Pi (even though I'm one of the
    net controls for the HotSpot Raspberry Pi SBC and ZumSpot Net on Monday nights on the QuadNet Array), but a pineapple upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good right now. <G>

    The thing is, they needed a net control station to help out. However,
    I will admit that most of the items discussed I have not much interest
    in.

    But, without either a net control or checkins, there'd be no need for
    a net.

    Understood! :-)



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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Nov 9 11:17:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    I had started downloading a route with Auran Trainz, but had to abort it, as the system locked up. I never did go back to finish it.

    A route? Is that a game?

    It's a simulator. Microsoft originally had their own Train Simulator,
    and a Flight Simulator, but I don't think either is being updated. Auran
    Trainz has one, and it also has apps for Android.

    I have access to a Pi, but never did anything with it...

    There was discussion of 2 items on the Hotspot Raspberry Pi SBC ZumSpot
    Net last night...

    1) Apparently with several of the new Macs, the batteries are running HOT,
    and expanding...which is a multi-hazard.

    2) The new version of DroidStar (a D-Star app for Android) does NOT have
    a VoCoder, so the device is basically worthless.

    But, without either a net control or checkins, there'd be no need for
    a net.

    Understood! :-)

    There are too many nets, and too little time. In looking at the Excel
    Net List Spreadsheets I have, on one day of the week, at least 6 nets
    meet at the same time!!

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Nov 29 10:37:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Jimmy,

    I had started downloading a route with Auran Trainz, but had to abort it, as the system locked up. I never did go back to finish it.

    A route? Is that a game?

    It's a simulator. Microsoft originally had their own Train Simulator, and a Flight Simulator, but I don't think either is being updated.
    Auran Trainz has one, and it also has apps for Android.

    Hmm... Will have to look into that...

    I have access to a Pi, but never did anything with it...

    There was discussion of 2 items on the Hotspot Raspberry Pi SBC
    ZumSpot Net last night...

    1) Apparently with several of the new Macs, the batteries are running
    HOT, and expanding...which is a multi-hazard.

    My work assigned me a MacBook Air with the M1 chip, but so far no problems...

    2) The new version of DroidStar (a D-Star app for Android) does NOT
    have a VoCoder, so the device is basically worthless.

    Wow... I wonder if I can do D-Star on iOS?

    I did try to raise someone on two repeaters on the way to work this morning... Was in Indy all last week, but wife's new(ish) car doesn't have a radio, so
    I missed out on the VERY active traffic there...





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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Nov 29 16:24:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Hmm... Will have to look into that...

    Do a search for Auran Trainz -- I want to say it's at auran.com

    My work assigned me a MacBook Air with the M1 chip, but so far no problems...

    Keep an eye on that.

    Wow... I wonder if I can do D-Star on iOS?

    That I don't know. I have an Android phone, but do all my ham radio communications via the laptop.

    I did try to raise someone on two repeaters on the way to work this morning... Was in Indy all last week, but wife's new(ish) car doesn't
    have a radio, so I missed out on the VERY active traffic there...

    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even gotten quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Daryl Stout on Tue Nov 30 06:11:34 2021
    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even gotten quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    It's been like that around here for years. Tons of 2 meter repeaters and a bunch of 440 repeaters ... all silent. It's difficult for me to set up a radio in this apartment. The next apartment I get I'd like to have a little patio out back where I can put up an antenna on a tripod or something.

    -- Sean

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 30 07:11:00 2021
    Sean,

    It's been like that around here for years. Tons of 2 meter repeaters
    and a bunch of 440 repeaters ... all silent. It's difficult for me to
    set up a radio in this apartment. The next apartment I get I'd like to have a little patio out back where I can put up an antenna on a tripod
    or something.

    Then, all the frequency pairs for repeaters are taken...yet, what repeaters that exist are "dead as doornails". :P

    I use a ThumbDV with the BlueDV program, mainly for D-Star Nets...as that's when I'm mainly "on the air". Otherwise, other things in my life outside of
    my hobbies (the BBS, ham radio, and square dancing) take priority (especially my health). But, I was interfered with so much on the local repeaters, that the only thing I do locally is being the VE Team Liaison for the University
    Of Arkansas At Little Rock (UALR) Ham Radio Club. Otherwise, all my ham radio work is done outside of Arkansas.

    I tell folks that if you have weather or health issues, don't worry about checking into a net. Your health and your safety are far more important. It's pretty bad when the first thing we look at in QST is the Silent Keys page; or the obituaries in the newspaper. Yet, I like what the late Red Skelton said about that.

    "I look at the obituaries first. If I don't see my name there, then I make coffee" (hi hi).

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Tue Nov 30 12:44:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Jimmy,

    Hmm... Will have to look into that...

    Do a search for Auran Trainz -- I want to say it's at auran.com

    Yep - that's it. There's an iOS version that's free - gonna check
    that out...

    Wow... I wonder if I can do D-Star on iOS?

    That I don't know. I have an Android phone, but do all my ham radio communications via the laptop.

    If you think about it, ask when you're on your next net and let me know...

    I did try to raise someone on two repeaters on the way to work this morning... Was in Indy all last week, but wife's new(ish) car doesn't
    have a radio, so I missed out on the VERY active traffic there...

    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even
    gotten quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside
    the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    I've tried to raise people as I've passed through areans. Sometimes I'll
    get someone, but most of the time not. I wonder if that's why... Cause they don't know me...



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to SEAN DENNIS on Tue Nov 30 12:56:00 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even gotten quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    It's been like that around here for years. Tons of 2 meter repeaters
    and a bunch of 440 repeaters ... all silent. It's difficult for me to
    set up a radio in this apartment. The next apartment I get I'd like to have a little patio out back where I can put up an antenna on a tripod
    or something.

    I had plans of putting my mobile that I took out of my truck in the house
    after our repairs are done and using it for a base station, but at the
    same time if the local repeaters continue to be quiet, maybe it's time
    that I do something like DX...



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Tue Nov 30 13:02:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    and a bunch of 440 repeaters ... all silent. It's difficult for me to
    set up a radio in this apartment. The next apartment I get I'd like to have a little patio out back where I can put up an antenna on a tripod
    or something.

    Then, all the frequency pairs for repeaters are taken...yet, what repeaters that exist are "dead as doornails". :P

    I think it's worse in bigger cities... I know Indy has SEVERAL repeaters - like eight or 12 - but only ever got traffic on two or three of them...

    I use a ThumbDV with the BlueDV program, mainly for D-Star Nets...as that's when I'm mainly "on the air". Otherwise, other things in my life outside of my hobbies (the BBS, ham radio, and square dancing) take priority (especially my health). But, I was interfered with so much on
    the local repeaters, that the only thing I do locally is being the VE
    Team Liaison for the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock (UALR) Ham Radio Club. Otherwise, all my ham radio work is done outside of
    Arkansas.

    Interfered with?




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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Nov 30 21:12:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    If you think about it, ask when you're on your next net and let me
    know...

    I just saw this after I finished the traffic net. I'm supposed to do a
    Trains Net on Friday night, but thunderstorms may mess things up.

    I've tried to raise people as I've passed through areans. Sometimes
    I'll get someone, but most of the time not. I wonder if that's why... Cause they don't know me...

    Sometimes, I wonder if they're just snobs.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Nov 30 22:01:00 2021
    Jimmy,

    Interfered with?

    Yep. Whenever I went to pass traffic on a test session or something
    else, I'd get walked on, and they had far more power than I did. With
    analog, you have no clue as to who is doing it. At least with the digital modes, your callsign shows up. From what I understand, locally...none of
    the repeaters are on the gateway...per the wishes of the trustees.

    One Thursday night, we had several supercell thunderstorms moving into Arkansas ahead of a cold front, and the Storm Prediction Center had just
    issued a Tornado Watch for the region. Well, the head of Arkansas Skywarn
    had been notified by the National Weather Service that they wanted to
    activate it, but he wanted me to do "The Weather Watch Net" (a precursor
    to Arkansas Skywarn) while they got some hams to head out to the National Weather Service. The weather net was to start at the same time this clubs regular traffic net was to run, but with Skywarn as "priority and emergency traffic", that net took priority, and pre-empted the traffic net.

    I keyed up, and announced that The Weather Watch Net was now on the air,
    and this old older ham (who went bad senile after his wife died) went ballistic. He demanded "Who the hell made the decision for such??". I
    tried to explain to him what was going on, but he would have none of it. Thankfully, the club president was on the repeater, and I told him to
    "Tell him"...and even though he did, this guy felt that a regular traffic
    net was far more important. After that, every time I keyed up on that repeater, I was interfered with, and likely by this individual...who is
    a Silent Key now.

    Another ham, now a Silent Key, nearly drove me out of ham radio nearly
    6 years after I got licensed. I was Net Control and a member of two local clubs, and as it turned out, they had their hamfests in April, 3 weeks
    apart. My philosophy was "I may have to work both Saturdays, but I'd like information on both...in case I can sweet talk the boss into letting me
    have Saturday off, and I'd work on Sunday instead. I saw nothing wrong
    with that. Besides, without work (a nasty 4 letter word (hi hi)), you do
    not have money for going to hamfests, and buying new ham radio toys.

    Well, that infuriated this individual, who called me on the phone, and cussed me to the point of tears. I called a fellow ham who lived about 2
    miles away, and bawling like a baby with a soiled diaper...I told him
    "I'm quitting the hobby, and bringing you my gear to tell". He said "WTH??", and I said "I'll tell you when I get there", and promptly hung up on him.

    I drove over to his apartment, walked in, still in tears, threw my gear
    on his couch, pulled my license out of my wallet, and threw it and the big copy I had, on the couch, and headed for the door to leave. He said "Wait
    A Minute!! You are NOT leaving here without telling me what is going on!!".
    I admit I thought about saying "Screw It!! I've had enough of ham radio!!". When I told him what happened, he exploded in rage, cussing as bad as I
    had been cussed out not 15 minutes earlier.

    The next week, when this individual got on the air, and said to me "You always do good", it was all I could do to keep from cussing him out on the air. I would've lost my license, and they would've lost a member and Net Control (I wonder if it would have been worth it). But, as it was, I went
    QRT for 6 months. No packet, no meetings, no hamfests, no nets, no public service events, NOTHING. I was still considering turning in my license,
    with a very nasty letter to the FCC, telling them what they could do with
    it and the hobby.

    This individual had turned so many people away from ham radio, that there were many against him, who noted that at his funeral, "they wouldn't be
    able to close the coffin for all the spit", and there'd be a line of folks waiting to relieve themselves (from both ends) on his grave.

    Two and a half years ago, another OM had written some software for his
    XYL to get callsigns when on D-Star. But, every time she did the nets, she
    was missing callsigns like mad. If I was a station with emergency traffic,
    I definitely would not be happy. He got angry because I (and from what I understand, several others) described the software as "klunky". To me, if
    you wrote a program that is NOT doing its job of copying callsigns as it should, then it is "klunky"...and it is up to the author to fix things.
    It also took him forever and a day to update net listings for D-Star Nets
    on his website...and that's why I started my own list of D-Star Nets... originally in PDF format, but recently converted to Excel Spreadsheets.
    The spreadsheets are so much easier to work with than PDF files.

    So, I quit being involved with the net that this was on, and nearly quit
    ham radio. I also switched my emphasis from weather, to trains and railroads; as well as changing my callsign.

    This net was a weather related net, but it NEVER did activate for a real Skywarn Event, like the VoIP Hurricane Prep Net does (I know they're glad hurricane season is now over for the year). But, then several of the net controls moved to other areas, and their internet was so erratic where they could not get into the reflector. With that, and continual declining net participation, it's causing that net to go QRT after the net this Sunday night.

    Very few folks knew the real reason why I left, and I could have been a
    real butthole, and aired the dirty laundry on the air or in the Yahoo Group...but I didn't.

    Just like with the other hams noted, while I forgave them, I never forgot what they did...and it has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding amateur radio.

    Net Control is not for the faint hearted. I've been doing nets for over
    30 years, so I know how they should be run. In fact, when I do the Arklatex D-Star Net on Tuesday evenings, I have multiple monitors, with taking net checkins on Reflector 48 B, plus via Netlogger, D-Rats, Facebook, and email; all simultaneously. The email, Facebook, and D-Rats checkins are noted as a bean for the count, and aren't asked for comments. To me, if a ham as a Net Control station isn't willing to do the work before, during, and after the
    net (and it is WORK), then they have no business being Net Control.

    Some nights, I'm in the computer chair for nearly 3 hours...and have the walker next to me, as I start cramping up from sitting so long...and nearly fall when I get up to move around. I start early checkins 45 to 60 minutes before the net, but depending on the net and its format, it be done in as little as 30 minutes, or as long as 90 minutes. Yet, when checkins dry up,
    I go into "auctioneer mode". Where they go "going once, going twice, sold" (just like the song by John Michael Montgomery...the music video on that is cool...and the female in the video is a cute blonde, who can really clog!!),
    I do a next to last call, then a final call for rechecks, late net checkins, or anything else to come before the net. If I get some, I keep the net going...but if not, I terminate the net.

    For logging, I started using Netlogger in August, 2020...and absolutely
    LOVE it. I even prepared a PDF tutorial file on setting it up, and using
    it for nets. I didn't get into the part for using it for contesting, as
    that part of ham radio never appealed to me.

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Dec 1 10:11:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    If you think about it, ask when you're on your next net and let me
    know...

    I just saw this after I finished the traffic net. I'm supposed to do
    a Trains Net on Friday night, but thunderstorms may mess things up.

    That's fine - thx. And I d/l that Trainz app. It's kinda cool! Will give
    it another go later today...

    I've tried to raise people as I've passed through areans. Sometimes
    I'll get someone, but most of the time not. I wonder if that's why... Cause they don't know me...

    Sometimes, I wonder if they're just snobs.

    Same here.




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@618:100/14 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Dec 1 10:23:00 2021
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Jimmy,

    Interfered with?

    Yep. Whenever I went to pass traffic on a test session or something else, I'd get walked on, and they had far more power than I did. With analog, you have no clue as to who is doing it. At least with the
    digital modes, your callsign shows up. From what I understand, locally...none of the repeaters are on the gateway...per the wishes of
    the trustees.

    Ah - gotcha!

    One Thursday night, we had several supercell thunderstorms moving
    into Arkansas ahead of a cold front, and the Storm Prediction Center
    had just issued a Tornado Watch for the region. Well, the head of
    Arkansas Skywarn had been notified by the National Weather Service that they wanted to activate it, but he wanted me to do "The Weather Watch
    Net" (a precursor to Arkansas Skywarn) while they got some hams to head out to the National Weather Service. The weather net was to start at
    the same time this clubs regular traffic net was to run, but with
    Skywarn as "priority and emergency traffic", that net took priority,
    and pre-empted the traffic net.

    I keyed up, and announced that The Weather Watch Net was now on the
    air, and this old older ham (who went bad senile after his wife died)
    went ballistic. He demanded "Who the hell made the decision for
    such??". I tried to explain to him what was going on, but he would have none of it. Thankfully, the club president was on the repeater, and I
    told him to "Tell him"...and even though he did, this guy felt that a regular traffic net was far more important. After that, every time I
    keyed up on that repeater, I was interfered with, and likely by this individual...who is a Silent Key now.

    WOW! I guess it's true - there are jerks in every thing and hobby and
    group...

    Another ham, now a Silent Key, nearly drove me out of ham radio
    nearly 6 years after I got licensed. I was Net Control and a member of
    two local clubs, and as it turned out, they had their hamfests in
    April, 3 weeks apart. My philosophy was "I may have to work both Saturdays, but I'd like information on both...in case I can sweet talk
    the boss into letting me have Saturday off, and I'd work on Sunday instead. I saw nothing wrong with that. Besides, without work (a nasty
    4 letter word (hi hi)), you do not have money for going to hamfests,
    and buying new ham radio toys.

    Well, that infuriated this individual, who called me on the phone,
    and cussed me to the point of tears. I called a fellow ham who lived
    about 2 miles away, and bawling like a baby with a soiled diaper...I
    told him "I'm quitting the hobby, and bringing you my gear to tell". He said "WTH??", and I said "I'll tell you when I get there", and promptly hung up on him.

    I don't understand someone getting angry over getting info... Maybe he
    thought the hamfest - HIS hamfest - took priority over EVERY other thing
    in life? Sheesh!

    I drove over to his apartment, walked in, still in tears, threw my
    gear on his couch, pulled my license out of my wallet, and threw it and the big copy I had, on the couch, and headed for the door to leave. He said "Wait A Minute!! You are NOT leaving here without telling me what
    is going on!!". I admit I thought about saying "Screw It!! I've had
    enough of ham radio!!". When I told him what happened, he exploded in rage, cussing as bad as I had been cussed out not 15 minutes earlier.

    The next week, when this individual got on the air, and said to me
    "You always do good", it was all I could do to keep from cussing him
    out on the air. I would've lost my license, and they would've lost a member and Net Control (I wonder if it would have been worth it). But,
    as it was, I went QRT for 6 months. No packet, no meetings, no
    hamfests, no nets, no public service events, NOTHING. I was still considering turning in my license, with a very nasty letter to the FCC, telling them what they could do with it and the hobby.

    This individual had turned so many people away from ham radio, that there were many against him, who noted that at his funeral, "they
    wouldn't be able to close the coffin for all the spit", and there'd be
    a line of folks waiting to relieve themselves (from both ends) on his grave.

    Man - and some people, I think, ENJOY being like that...

    There's a local musician that passed away a few years ago. He had the
    'behind his back' nickname of 'ramrod' because he would shoulder into
    jams and try and 'take over.' It was either his way, or you didn't
    play - IN A PUBLIC JAM.

    Now I've had 'my own group' over the years, and someone has to call the
    shots and do the producing and arranging, etc. I'm an easy going guy
    and willing to work with anyone, but when someone books through me
    and I get guys to work a gig, it's 'my show,' so to speak. But this
    guy would try and 'ramrod' his way through a public open jam...

    Two and a half years ago, another OM had written some software for
    his XYL to get callsigns when on D-Star. But, every time she did the
    nets, she was missing callsigns like mad. If I was a station with emergency traffic, I definitely would not be happy. He got angry
    because I (and from what I understand, several others) described the software as "klunky". To me, if you wrote a program that is NOT doing
    its job of copying callsigns as it should, then it is "klunky"...and it
    is up to the author to fix things. It also took him forever and a day
    to update net listings for D-Star Nets on his website...and that's why
    I started my own list of D-Star Nets... originally in PDF format, but recently converted to Excel Spreadsheets. The spreadsheets are so much easier to work with than PDF files.

    So, I quit being involved with the net that this was on, and nearly
    quit ham radio. I also switched my emphasis from weather, to trains and railroads; as well as changing my callsign.

    Hate that someone nearly drove you from the hobby...

    This net was a weather related net, but it NEVER did activate for a
    real Skywarn Event, like the VoIP Hurricane Prep Net does (I know
    they're glad hurricane season is now over for the year). But, then
    several of the net controls moved to other areas, and their internet
    was so erratic where they could not get into the reflector. With that,
    and continual declining net participation, it's causing that net to go
    QRT after the net this Sunday night.

    Very few folks knew the real reason why I left, and I could have been
    a real butthole, and aired the dirty laundry on the air or in the Yahoo Group...but I didn't.

    Good for you!

    Just like with the other hams noted, while I forgave them, I never forgot what they did...and it has left a bad taste in my mouth
    regarding amateur radio.

    Net Control is not for the faint hearted. I've been doing nets for
    over 30 years, so I know how they should be run. In fact, when I do the Arklatex D-Star Net on Tuesday evenings, I have multiple monitors, with taking net checkins on Reflector 48 B, plus via Netlogger, D-Rats, Facebook, and email; all simultaneously. The email, Facebook, and
    D-Rats checkins are noted as a bean for the count, and aren't asked for comments. To me, if a ham as a Net Control station isn't willing to do
    the work before, during, and after the net (and it is WORK), then they have no business being Net Control.

    Some nights, I'm in the computer chair for nearly 3 hours...and have
    the walker next to me, as I start cramping up from sitting so
    long...and nearly fall when I get up to move around. I start early checkins 45 to 60 minutes before the net, but depending on the net and
    its format, it be done in as little as 30 minutes, or as long as 90 minutes. Yet, when checkins dry up, I go into "auctioneer mode". Where they go "going once, going twice, sold" (just like the song by John Michael Montgomery...the music video on that is cool...and the female
    in the video is a cute blonde, who can really clog!!), I do a next to
    last call, then a final call for rechecks, late net checkins, or
    anything else to come before the net. If I get some, I keep the net going...but if not, I terminate the net.

    If it's the song I'm thinking of, I liked the parody of it as well -
    by Cledus T. Judd, I think it was...

    For logging, I started using Netlogger in August, 2020...and
    absolutely LOVE it. I even prepared a PDF tutorial file on setting it
    up, and using it for nets. I didn't get into the part for using it for contesting, as that part of ham radio never appealed to me.

    Same here - as far as contesting... I enjoy just making conversation, very
    much like echonets in BBS's. :-) Not seeing how many one line posts or
    replies I can make. ;-)

    I would probably be terrible at Field Day, cause I'd want to strike up
    a conversation with the people on the other end, not just record the call
    and move on. LOL





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  • From Ray Quinn@618:300/18 to All on Wed Dec 22 15:07:05 2021
    Daryl Stout <daryl.stout@618:250/33> wrote:

    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even gotten quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    I’d talk to you, but our gateway computer (K6VIS) went offline when Kings Canyon National Part lost power during a recent storm and the backup
    generator didn’t power up. Most of the repeaters at the site were offline. When the power came back online, the computer apparently didn’t. Now, the road is likely impassable and expecting up to two feet of additional snow
    by Christmas and likely more next week. The elevation there is 7500 feet
    above sea level.

    I do have a DV Dongle I got from a late friend (N6QOG/SK). Where do you
    usually connect to, with your laptop?

    We have anther full DSTAR “stack” at another site at 5700’ (KK6NGT), but I’m not sure whether the computer was reinstalled after I updated the OS
    and gateway software. We have a third that is ready to go except the
    antennas and feed-lines haven’t been installed. That one isn’t connected to the trust server yet. It is at about 1800’, but it may be a while before we can get to that hilltop. We’re expecting 1.5-2” of rain by Christmas and the road to the top is mostly rocks and clay. Slippery.

    BTW, we spent a few days around Halloween in Salem (Fulton County) Arkansas visiting my son, his wife and three grandkids.

    Next year, we hope to go into Tennessee (Grand Ole Opry) and Kentucky.
    There is a town in Kentucky named Visalia we want to visit. It was founded
    by the same man who founded Visalia, California.

    Merry Christmas!
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  • From Ray Quinn@618:300/18 to All on Wed Dec 22 15:07:06 2021
    Sean Dennis <sean.dennis@618:618/10> wrote:
    Most areas now are quiet except during nets. Drive time has even gotten
    quiet. And in some parts of the country, if you're from outside the call district, they won't even talk to you.

    It's been like that around here for years. Tons of 2 meter repeaters and
    a bunch of 440 repeaters ... all silent. It's difficult for me to set up
    a radio in this apartment. The next apartment I get I'd like to have a little patio out back where I can put up an antenna on a tripod or something.

    Is it possible to put up a j-pole or something similar or the inside near
    an outside wall?

    Also, I’m sorry to hear about losing your HF radios due to lightning. (I
    read your QRZ bio).

    Repeaters around here are quite, too, except during nets. Maybe they’re on HF. SHRUG.
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