• James Bond franchise

    From digimaus@618:618/1 to All on Thu Feb 20 21:48:08 2025
    (I hope the Bond franchise doesn't turn into a steaming pile of crap like
    the "Star Wars" franchise has. As a lifelong fan of James Bond, this is sad news.)

    From: https://shorturl.at/330gq (nypost.com)

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    Amazon's takeover of James Bond will be the death of an iconic brand

    By Johnny Oleksinski
    Published Feb. 20, 2025, 2:00 p.m. ET

    Diamonds are forever.

    But entertainment franchises are deceptively fragile.

    Look at Marvel and Star Wars, shimmering Hollywood jewels that were
    gobbled up by Disney in 2009 and 2012, respectively. They peaked and
    plummeted. And today, the once-invincible behemoths have become cultural
    nuisances thanks to greedy corporate oversaturation and shoddy products.

    After Thursday's awful news, James Bond is all but certain to follow in
    their path to oblivion.

    In a shocking announcement, producers and half-siblings Barbara Broccoli
    and Michael G. Wilson, the longtime stewards of 007, said that they have
    ceded creative control of the iconic entity to Amazon.

    I suddenly find myself in agreement with Goldfinger: Mr. Bond, I expect
    you to die.

    Mark my words, the company will mangle James Bond, a series I
    cherish, beyond recognition.

    Until now, the British superspy has been a family affair. Broccoli and
    Wilson's Eon Productions, started by dad Albert "Cubby" Broccoli and Harry
    Saltzman in 1961, have produced all of the 25 main films. (Two others,
    starring David Niven and a returning Sean Connery, are separate
    oddities.)

    That's a relatively controlled amount of output for 62 years (starting
    with 1962's "Dr. No," starring Connery), as opposed to Marvel's obscene 35
    flicks over 17.

    Many of them are exceptional and some were fumbled (cough, "Quantum of
    Solace," cough), but all were made with the care and consideration of a
    family with its legacy in mind.

    That's over.

    While Broccoli and Wilson will retain some ownership, it's Amazon who's
    holding the Walther PPK.

    The writing was on the wall when the company acquired Bond's distributor
    MGM in 2022 for $8.5 billion. Now, it can let loose.

    Remember that, first and foremost, Amazon's core business is a website
    where you can buy an in-ground swimming pool and "The Complete Works of
    Friedrich Nietzsche" in two clicks.

    For Amazon, 007 is little more than intellectual property to spice up
    quarterly earnings reports. It will plunder every possible aspect of the
    franchise. It will pump out as many films, TV shows and other peripheral
    nonsense as it can.

    Think a "Young Q" spin-off series. Moneypenny, held back behind a desk for
    so long, will surely be granted the "license to kill" in her own movies.
    We'll get "Cruella"-style backstories of villains like Jaws and Blofeld.

    And, invariably, we'll tune out all the incessant noise.

    Look at the mess Amazon made with "Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power."
    It dropped a cool $1 billion on a wretched TV series that nobody likes.

    And, behaving like SPECTRE, it gave us a preview of its evil plot for Bond
    when it produced the reality show "007: Road to a Million" in 2023.
    Remember that? Thought not.

    Is this the right company to entrust with one of the greatest brands in
    cinema history?

    It's been four years since Daniel Craig's final outing as Bond, "No Time
    To Die," hit theaters. Rumors about casting and directors have
    proliferated, and at one point some outlets confidently reported that
    Aaron Taylor-Johnson had signed on to don the famous tux.

    But, in December, the Wall Street Journal said that Broccoli had privately
    told her friends of the fine folks at Amazon, "These people are f - - king
    idiots." She was reportedly opposed to the creation of spinoffs for
    subsidiary characters and padding out 007 into a Marvel-like universe.

    Rightly. It's no wonder she took the money and ran.

    Now with Broccoli and Wilson mostly out of the picture - they'll continue
    to profit - Deadline reports that there are no plans currently in place
    for the 26th film.

    The wait could be long, and will likely exceed the franchise's biggest gap
    - the six years between 1989's "Licence to Kill" with Timothy Dalton and
    1995's "GoldenEye" starring Pierce Brosnan.

    I shudder at what the comeback will look like.

    In 2018, I went to a party at Broccoli's Upper East Side townhouse
    celebrating the Broadway musical "The Band's Visit," which she was a
    producer of. She excitedly regaled the crowd with stories about growing up
    on set with Sean Connery and Roger Moore. Incredible stuff.

    That was the first time I realized the extent to which James Bond has been
    a family business, and how much that rich history mattered to its future.

    The end of "No Time to Die" was a first for the series in that it appeared
    to shut the door on 007. But at the end of the credits, that classic line
    still popped up: "James Bond will return."

    Now, I don't think I want him to.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to DIGIMAUS on Fri Feb 21 11:05:00 2025
    (I hope the Bond franchise doesn't turn into a steaming pile of crap like
    the "Star Wars" franchise has. As a lifelong fan of James Bond, this is sad news.)

    Here's hoping it does not, too. IMHO, with Star Wars, Disney pretty much
    shot their wad with Rogue One, which was better than chapters I-III. After that, they started down Retcon Road and screwed everything up.

    I lost interest with chapter 7 (basically a retool of the original movie
    with new characters). I did "accidentally" see one of the spin-off
    character movies when it was on cable. It was not bad but I also cannot
    tell you for certain which movie it was so it didn't leave an everlasting impression. ;)

    I don't have Disney+ so I have never seen it, but apparently their TV
    offerings have been hit and miss. The Mandalorian was apparently good, but
    the other offerings haven't lived up to its promise.

    Mike

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to digimaus on Sun Mar 2 09:18:52 2025
    Re: James Bond franchise
    By: digimaus to All on Thu Feb 20 2025 09:48 pm

    (I hope the Bond franchise doesn't turn into a steaming pile of crap like the "Star Wars" franchise has. As a lifelong fan of James Bond, this is sad news.)

    I am so sorry for you. I used to be a Bond fan, but I saw the writing on the wall LOOOOONG time ago, with the Craig movies.

    I don't think Craig himself did a bad job, but the movies he made screamed the team behind them was running out of steam. For starters, the fact it was all a *reboot* was a very bad sign, in that they intended to break with classic Bond.

    So well, I have my old DVD collection of Bond movies. That is all the Bond I need.

    (And I also have some spinoff videogames, yay)


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Arelor on Sun Mar 2 11:55:00 2025
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 02.03.25 - 09:18, Arelor wrote to digimaus:

    I am so sorry for you. I used to be a Bond fan, but I saw
    the writing on the wall LOOOOONG time ago, with the Craig
    movies.

    I don't think Craig himself did a bad job, but the movies
    he made screamed the team behind them was running out of
    steam. For starters, the fact it was all a *reboot* was a
    very bad sign, in that they intended to break with classic
    Bond.

    Oh come on now.. some of the opening action sequences are
    fantastic.. like the one where they run across the rooftops. I
    don't see the Roger Moore character fit enough to pull that
    off. But Moore's ski jump sequence was great - when I first
    saw it in theatre.

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to August Abolins on Mon Mar 3 08:41:05 2025
    Re: James Bond franchise
    By: August Abolins to Arelor on Sun Mar 02 2025 11:55 am

    Oh come on now.. some of the opening action sequences are
    fantastic.. like the one where they run across the rooftops. I
    don't see the Roger Moore character fit enough to pull that
    off. But Moore's ski jump sequence was great - when I first
    saw it in theatre.

    I am not denying that modern Bond had good stuff, but it takes more than a few good action sequences to achieve greatness.

    Also I am not sure the action was so so so well directed. I would have to rewatch Casino Royale, but I think its action scenes belonged to the shaky camera Hollywood school, which I despise.


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Arelor on Mon Mar 3 13:06:00 2025
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Monday 03.03.25 - 08:41, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

    I am not denying that modern Bond had good stuff, but it
    takes more than a few good action sequences to achieve
    greatness.

    Also I am not sure the action was so so so well directed. I
    would have to rewatch Casino Royale, but I think its action
    scenes belonged to the shaky camera Hollywood school, which
    I despise.

    I meant the Skyfall opening segment with the motorcycle chase.

    There is another film that has a some kind of elaborate chase
    across a variety of obstacles at a construction site. Casino
    Royale, I think.

    The Quantum of Solace rooftop chase is very choppy editing, and
    harder to appreciate the stunts.

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