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  • I have just become energy self-suffi

    From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Jas Hud on Sun Nov 20 12:14:00 2022
    I don t like to have electric components near the barn. I
    think having lightbuls etc. in a barn is begging for a
    fire.

    Even LED-based?



    even leds can generate heat. i'm not sure if it's because
    it's cheap stuff or poor design.

    The bulbs that look like standard bulbs are quite cool to the
    touch. I have one my bedside and simply unscrew it and re-
    tighten it when i need the light off or on (the lamp switch is
    broken) ..and it's not even warm.


    my led spotlights steam in the cold. i've seen led
    flashlights get hot.

    No me, but point taken.
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Jas Hud on Sun Nov 20 16:10:11 2022
    Re: Re: I have just become energy self-suffi
    By: Jas Hud to August Abolins on Wed Nov 16 2022 12:05 pm

    I don t like to have electric components near the barn. I
    think having lightbuls etc. in a barn is begging for a
    fire.

    Even LED-based?



    even leds can generate heat. i'm not sure if it's because it's cheap stuff or poor design.

    my led spotlights steam in the cold. i've seen led flashlights get hot.


    I am more concerned for mice bitting through the insulation of some wire and causing a fire from electrical defect than for heat produced by the lights. The lights themselves are still worrisome to me.

    LED's as of late seem to be subpar quality. They go out of service so fast that their value proposition goes down the drain. They are not ecological anymore if they burn before the power they save compensates their consumption cost, and neither are they a sound investment. I still use mercury lights for that reason.


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Arelor on Sun Nov 20 19:12:00 2022
    Hello Arelor!

    I am more concerned for mice bitting through the insulation
    of some wire and causing a fire from electrical defect than
    for heat produced by the lights. The lights themselves are
    still worrisome to me.

    My family operated standard electic incandescent lights in the
    barn for years. No problems. We had plenty of cats in there
    though.


    LED's as of late seem to be subpar quality. They go out of
    service so fast that their value proposition goes down the
    drain.

    When I took over the shop, the previous installation had a
    series of 8ft-long and 4ft-long fluorescent T12's. When some of
    the transformers started to fail after 2 or years of my
    occupation, I had all the T12's changed to support T8's. That
    was 7 years ago. Now, some of those "new" instant-start
    transformers are failing. I am at the point where direct-wire
    LED tubes would be a more welcoming solution. But the 8ft-ers
    cost about $32 a piece. I would need about 24.

    I am not sure if I've seen any other retail space using LED
    lighting exclusively.


    They are not ecological anymore if they burn before the
    power they save compensates their consumption cost, and
    neither are they a sound investment. I still use mercury
    lights for that reason.

    I've gone through at least a handful of T12 fluorescents, in my
    first couple of years of operation, and then even MORE T8's
    later on. At about $20 a piece, they could add up.

    But the LED variety cost even more.
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