i think everyone should be running telegard.
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Hello Jas,
06 Apr 22 22:42, you wrote to Arelor:
i think everyone should be running telegard.
Telegard has its own issues. I ran it for a long time--I wrote the original documentation on how to get Telegard/2 running under OS/2 and I am credited in the documentation as hausmaus--but its lack of support for *.MSG just because Tim had a hair up his ass about the format made it a royal pain for me to use with IBBS games and having to convert *.MSG-formatted netmail to Squish-formatted netmail was really a waste of time.
There were other bugs in it that irritated me so I quit using it though if Tim had followed through with its development (and added *.MSG support), I might still be using it.
yeah but you get irritated by every software!
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Hello Jas,
07 Apr 22 14:13, you wrote to me:
yeah but you get irritated by every software!
Some more than others. But I've reached a point that I'm done with that now. It's either MBSE or I will just shut down. The stress isn't worth it now.
Hello Jas,
07 Apr 22 14:13, you wrote to me:
yeah but you get irritated by every software!
Some more than others. But I've reached a point that I'm done with that now
It's either MBSE or I will just shut down. The stress isn't worth it now.
-- Sean
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Yeah, Thomas Kloos is shutting his WINServer system down so I am in
need of another Fido feed -- again. Though he SAYS he MIGHT be going
over to Mystic -- mainly because it seems that Hector Santos has gone
MIA now for some reason as the only tweets he seems to be posting on
their twitter account is about Will Smith.
Yeah, Thomas Kloos is shutting his WINServer system down so I am in
need of another Fido feed -- again. Though he SAYS he MIGHT be going over to Mystic -- mainly because it seems that Hector Santos has gone
MIA now for some reason as the only tweets he seems to be posting on their twitter account is about Will Smith.
Is Thomas your local net feed?
You are welcome to get Fido echos here, although I don't run WINServer, if that makes a difference.
Mike
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Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
i will add your current statement to my collection of sean dennis
screen captures.
ROBERT WOLFE wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Yeah, Thomas Kloos is shutting his WINServer system down so I am in
need of another Fido feed -- again. Though he SAYS he MIGHT be going
over to Mystic -- mainly because it seems that Hector Santos has gone
MIA now for some reason as the only tweets he seems to be posting on
their twitter account is about Will Smith.
You are welcome to get Fido echos here, although I don't run WINServer, if that makes a difference.
No, it doesn't :) Email me at admin@winserver.org with the information
I need to get set up here on my end :)
Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
i will add your current statement to my collection of sean dennis
screen captures.
That's next to your scab collection, right?
Mike Powell wrote to DIGIMAUS <=-
LOL, thanks for the morning laugh! :D
Sean Dennis wrote to Jas Hud <=-
Telegard has its own issues. I ran it for a long time--I wrote the original documentation on how to get Telegard/2 running under OS/2 and
I am credited in the documentation as hausmaus--but its lack of support for *.MSG just because Tim had a hair up his ass about the format made
it a royal pain for me to use with IBBS games and having to convert *.MSG-formatted netmail to Squish-formatted netmail was really a waste
of time.
No, it doesn't :) Email me at admin@winserver.org with the information
I need to get set up here on my end :)
Back in the day, I used to have to use confmail to toss fido packets to
*.msg files in separate directories per echomail area, then run Telegard's tosser to import the messages into Telegard. A total pain in the ass on a 8 mhz AT with 2 30mb drives.
Hello Jas,
06 Apr 22 22:42, you wrote to Arelor:
i think everyone should be running telegard.
Telegard has its own issues. I ran it for a long time--I wrote the origin documentation on how to get Telegard/2 running under OS/2 and I am credite the documentation as hausmaus--but its lack of support for *.MSG just beca Tim had a hair up his ass about the format made it a royal pain for me to with IBBS games and having to convert *.MSG-formatted netmail to Squish-formatted netmail was really a waste of time.
There were other bugs in it that irritated me so I quit using it though if had followed through with its development (and added *.MSG support), I mig still be using it.
Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
he probably just didnt know how to program, or program well. a lot of
guys that take over for bbs development don't have what it takes in
some shape or form.
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Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
he probably just didnt know how to program, or program well. a lot of guys that take over for bbs development don't have what it takes in some shape or form.
No, he was a great programmer. TG was written in Pascal, C, and assembler. Tim had other priorities though. I once called him at work which surprised the hell out of him. I asked about buying the TG code and he gave me a huge line of bullshit about copyrights, this, that and the other -- anything he could think of to try to get me off the phone.
What had really happened is that he lost the source code to TG and didn't want to admit it, that's all.
if you would have called me at work i would have told you to fuck off
too, though.
it could also be that he was embarassed of the source code like some
other guys were....
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Hello Jas,
12 Apr 22 22:37, you wrote to me:
if you would have called me at work i would have told you to fuck off too, though.
He would have told me that anyway. He was more interested in money than anything else.
it could also be that he was embarassed of the source code like some other guys were....
That also.
I don't know if you know the VADV roland de graff story, but bryan
turner told me that Roland only keep the source code to vadv on ONE computer and he did not back it up. when the harddrive failed he
picked up the computer and threw it on the floor out of frustration.
i guess he didn't think of using harddrive recover experts.
What had really happened is that he lost the source code to TG and didn't want to admit it, that's all.
I just can't understand that. I have backup and backup and backup of
the Renegade source. Thats just plain laziness for that to happen. I always wondered why there was never anymore updates.
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Hello T,
15 Apr 22 08:54, you wrote to me:
I just can't understand that. I have backup and backup and backup of the Renegade source. Thats just plain laziness for that to happen. I always wondered why there was never anymore updates.
I admit I am not the best when it comes to backups though I have gotten better at it. Right now, I simply do not have enough physical space for all the backups I need, especially for the BBS, but hopefully, if Social Security
comes through, I can scrape up enough to set up a NAS for hot backups here. I'll probably set up AWS S3 for warm backups. Once I can meet Nick up in Niagra Falls, I can get a LTO-4 drive from him for cold backups stored in a storage room.
you dont need all that fancy shit. just get a cheap harddrive and
backup to it. or a couple of cheap ones.
I admit I am not the best when it comes to backups though I have gotten bet at it. Right now, I simply do not have enough physical space for all the backups I need, especially for the BBS, but hopefully, if Social Security
backups I need, especially for the BBS, but hopefully, if Social Security comes through, I can scrape up enough to set up a NAS for hot backups here.
Good luck, took my wife almost 3 years to get it.
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Hello Jas,
16 Apr 22 07:56, you wrote to me:
you dont need all that fancy shit. just get a cheap harddrive and backup to it. or a couple of cheap ones.
It's not "fancy shit". It's having multiple backup options in case a backup fails (which happens). You forget that I did this for a living and for me, it's not anything out of the ordinary.
i'm not saying that you cant do it. i'm saying that the likely hood
that you WON'T do it arrises when you get complicated with it. my
backups are easy and get done. i've heard people talk about
complicated backup schemes but they end up not having the backups.
Using s3cmd is quite easy. Tape backups are easy also due to a plethora of great backup software available under Linux though I could just as easily use tar to do it (after all, tar stands for "Tape ARchiver"). For me, it is not complicated. It's just not having the money to pay for space.
-- Sean
To: Sean Dennis
Re: Telegard
By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Sat Apr 16 2022 12:11 pm
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Hello Jas,
16 Apr 22 07:56, you wrote to me:
you dont need all that fancy shit. just get a cheap harddrive and backup to it. or a couple of cheap ones.
It's not "fancy shit". It's having multiple backup options in case a bac fails (which happens). You forget that I did this for a living and for m it's not anything out of the ordinary.
i'm not saying that you cant do it. i'm saying that the likely hood that yo WON'T do it arrises when you get complicated with it. my backups are easy a get done. i've heard people talk about complicated backup schemes but they up not having the backups.
To: Sean Dennis
Re: Telegard
By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Sat Apr 16 2022 09:13 pm
Using s3cmd is quite easy. Tape backups are easy also due to a plethora great backup software available under Linux though I could just as easily use tar to do it (after all, tar stands for "Tape ARchiver"). For me, it not complicated. It's just not having the money to pay for space.
-- Sean
you dont need to pay for a lot of space if you dont back up the entire plane just back up what you need, delete old backups.
the point is that you do it. a lot of people talk the talk, but don't walk t walk.
It's going on two years now. However, my lawyers tell me that if I lose th appeal, they will have the case brought up before an administrative law jud in a nearby city. That's how my dad finally received his benefits.
Mike Powell wrote to ROBERT WOLFE <=-
Yeah, Thomas Kloos is shutting his WINServer system down so I am in
need of another Fido feed -- again. Though he SAYS he MIGHT be going
over to Mystic -- mainly because it seems that Hector Santos has gone
MIA now for some reason as the only tweets he seems to be posting on
their twitter account is about Will Smith.
Is Thomas your local net feed?
You are welcome to get Fido echos here, although I don't run WINServer,
if that makes a difference.
Yeah, looks like Fido is flowing through both of my systems just fine
now :) Thank you for your help.
On 08 May 22 13:49:00, Mike Powell wrote:
|03-> > Yeah looks like Fido is flowing through both of my systems just fine |03-> > now :) Thank you for your help.
|03->
|03-> No problem glad it is working!
|03->
|03-> Mike
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