• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion...updated

    From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Mar 27 00:14:01 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    813 PM EDT Tue Mar 26 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Mar 27 2024 - 12Z Wed Mar 27 2024


    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    Potential convective redevelopment is expected later tonight over
    portions of the FL Panhandle, FL Big Bend, and GA near a stalled
    front. Low level moisture transport and mid/upper forcing gradually
    increase, with an uptick in instability also expected. Flash flood
    guidance is quite high across this area, and 18z HREF probabilities
    suggest they'll be approached, but probably not be exceeded, into
    Wednesday morning. While there is opportunity for convection to
    over perform given the stationary boundary and increasing
    instability, believe any flash flood risk will remain localized in
    nature.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Mar 27 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE INTO SOUTHERN GEORGIA...

    ...20Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Only minor adjustments were made to the on-going Excessive
    Rainfall Outlook. The focus for any heavy rainfall looks to be in
    proximity to a cold front that slows its forward motion as it
    approaches from the west. Low pressure forms along the front late
    Wednesday night begins to move northward along the Carolina
    coastline. Flash Flood Guidance is high along that path...and
    the previous Slight risk embedded within a broader Marginal Risk
    area still looks reasonable. A slight nudge eastward was warranted
    given latest WPC QPF and consensus QPF. No changes were needed
    across the Western U.S..

    Bann


    ...08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    A swath of heavy rainfall appears likely Wednesday into Wednesday
    night across portions of the FL Panhandle, into southeast GA and
    northward into the central/eastern Carolinas.

    Increasing forcing from the west will move over a stalled out
    front...likely resulting in cyclogenesis and a swath of heavy
    rainfall. PWs are forecast near or above the climatological 90th
    percentile, so we will likely have the moisture in place
    for excessive rainfall...and the duration also looks to be there
    given the stalled nature of the front. The main uncertainty comes
    down to the degree of instability and rainfall rates...along with
    the exact axis of heaviest rainfall.

    Model guidance has been bouncing west and east with each run, and
    at the moment not quite ready to say we have any consistent trend.
    A good chunk of the 00z models trended east...such as the GEM reg,
    ECMWF, UKMET and RRFS. However the GFS, 3km NAM and FV3LAM remain
    west. The 00z experimental RRFS ensemble and 06z HRRR also are
    favoring a further east solution. Given all the available data, we
    are leaning more towards the eastern model camp, but this is not a
    lock, as additional model fluctuations are anticipated. It will
    really come down to where the front stalls, and thus where the low
    track ends up.

    Instability and rainfall rates are the next piece of uncertainty.
    The best chance of more robust and persistent instability is
    probably closer to the Gulf Coast. It is here where some
    better moisture coming in off the Gulf may sustain enough
    instability for more vigorous convection. Even this is uncertain to
    a degree, but confidence is a bit higher here for higher rainfall
    rates and the potential for 3"+ total rainfall. Thus for now still
    think the best strategy for the ERO is to start small with the
    Slight risk, and keep it confined to where confidence is higher on
    better rainfall rate potential. The Slight risk aligns well with
    the higher QPF signal seen in the 00z ECMWF and UKMET, as well as
    in the experimental 00z RRFS (which is forecasting a swath of 3-5"
    of rainfall).

    Portions of the eastern Carolinas into southeast VA may eventually
    need a Slight risk upgrade, but the combination of uncertainty on
    the exact rainfall axis along with questions regarding the degree
    of instability, suggest keeping the Marginal risk is the way to go
    for now. Plus soil saturation and streamflows are generally around
    or slightly below average, resulting in relatively high FFG. We
    will continue to reassess on future shifts.

    ...Northwest CA into southwest OR...
    We will maintain a Marginal risk across these areas, although this
    is probably a lower end risk. IVT is not all that strong, and the
    system is progressive, both of which will be limiting factors for
    excessive rainfall. However upper forcing is pretty good, and it
    does look like we may be able to generate 0.5"/hr rainfall rates
    with some weak instability working into the backside of the cold
    front. Still look on track for 1-3" of rain, and with soil
    saturation and streamflows running above normal over the area, it
    seems plausible that any embedded higher rates could cause some
    localized flooding concerns.

    Chenard



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024 - 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE COASTAL MID-ATLANTIC INTO COASTAL NEW ENGLAND...

    ...20Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Previous outlook still on-track and no changes were made to the
    Marginal Risk area from the coastal Mid-Atlantic to Coastal New
    England other than a subtle eastward shift.

    Bann

    ...08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion... An area of low pressure
    moving up the coast will result in a heavy rain threat to portions
    of the eastern Mid- Atlantic into eastern New England Thursday into
    Thursday night. As described in the day 2 discussion, there
    remains uncertainty with the track of this low and and thus also
    with the axis of heaviest rainfall. The 00z non- NCEP guidance has
    trended east with this cycle, with the GFS and NAM remaining west.
    While they do not go out into day 3, the 00z experimental RRFS
    ensemble and 06z HRRR are more in line with the eastern model
    solutions at the end of their runs. Thus we are favoring something
    closer to the more eastern solutions at this time...although as is
    typically the case, something somewhere in between the two is
    probably most likely. Regardless, with the ERO being a
    probabilistic product, we did hedge a bit west of the WPC
    deterministic QPF for the western extent of the Marginal risk.
    Heavy rainfall is likely along and just inland of wherever the low
    does track.

    An argument could be made for a Slight risk over eastern NC into
    southeast VA given two day rainfall in the 3-5" range in the WPC
    forecast and in several deterministic models. However, do think
    that by Thursday this rain will likely be on the cool side of the
    developing low, and thus should be more stratiform in nature by
    this period. For that reason, and the described lingering
    uncertainty on the exact axis, think maintaining the Marginal risk
    is the way to go for now.

    Chenard



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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h29j-cBmfSMuRsBLiW_ryaNI0B3U1eiDxkMlOLkjsEG= OK3_jW_a9zzocdn15K4rDbPUgEk1UQtapREknnv5-udBBe4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h29j-cBmfSMuRsBLiW_ryaNI0B3U1eiDxkMlOLkjsEG= OK3_jW_a9zzocdn15K4rDbPUgEk1UQtapREknnv5bbyxSFQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Mar 27 08:40:55 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    440 AM EDT Wed Mar 27 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Mar 27 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE INTO SOUTHERN GEORGIA AND OVER PORTIONS OF
    EAST CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA...

    ...Southeast...

    A swath of heavy rainfall is likely today into tonight across=20
    portions of the FL Panhandle, into southeast GA and northward into=20
    the central/eastern Carolinas.

    A Slight risk will be maintained across portions of the the FL
    Panhandle into southern GA. Convection should be ongoing across
    this area at 12z this morning, with 2"/hr rainfall possible given
    the instability and moisture in place. At the moment, it looks=20
    like activity will have enough eastward motion to limit the=20
    duration of the highest rainfall rates and keep any flash flood=20
    risk localized. By this afternoon we see an uptick in mid/upper=20
    forcing and strengthening low level convergence over the area. This
    should result in an uptick in convective coverage by this=20
    afternoon into this evening. It is unclear whether this activity=20
    will be organized enough to pose a flash flood risk. Flash flood=20
    guidance exceedance probabilities from both the 00z HREF and 18z=20
    REFS ensembles are very low, and not at the level we would expect=20
    to see for a Slight risk level threat. However we will have a slow=20
    moving boundary overhead, and multiple convective rounds appear=20
    probable into this evening. Given the ingredients, there is some=20
    chance this convection ends up a bit more robust than currently=20
    forecast in the models...and so while this is probably a lower end=20
    Slight risk, not confident enough for a downgrade.

    Morning convection over southeast GA into the Carolinas should be
    fairly weak. However by this afternoon we are expecting ~1500 j/kg
    of CAPE to develop near the stalled out front. Convergence near=20
    the front along with this increased instability should result in=20
    more robust convective development by or just after 18z. Based on=20
    HREF probabilities, expect 1"/hr to 1.5"/hr rainfall with this=20
    activity, but not currently anticipating anything over 2"/hr. Most
    indications are that this convective development will aid in=20
    pushing the stalled front a bit eastward with time. Thus while=20
    initial convection is expected more over east central SC/NC, this=20
    activity should push east with eroding instability from west to=20
    east.=20

    By later in the afternoon into the evening hours the focus=20
    for any more intense convection should be gradually shifting east
    over the Carolinas. This rainfall over the eastern Carolinas will=20
    likely be reinforced overnight by a developing low pressure along=20
    the front.=20

    Overall, neighborhood probabilities from both the 00z HREF and 18z
    REFS indicate a greater than 50% chance of 3"+ rainfall amounts=20
    through 12z Thursday over portions of the central and eastern=20
    Carolinas into southeast GA, however the probabilities of 5"+=20
    amounts drop significantly to only around 5%. Both soil saturation=20
    and streamflows are near to below average over most of this area,=20
    resulting in high FFG values. FFG exceedance probabilities from the
    HREF and REFS are low. Overall, a tricky call on whether to stick=20
    with a Marginal or upgrade to a Slight risk. Decided to go ahead=20
    with a targeted Slight risk area over portions of east central NC.=20
    This risk was placed where there is overlap between more coverage
    of 3-5" total rainfall, and 1"/hr or greater rainfall rates. The=20
    thinking is that with time FFG will lower as conditions saturate,=20
    which may eventually result in a more concentrated flash flood risk
    over the Slight risk area. This Slight risk area has the potential
    to see one round of convection this afternoon, and another=20
    overnight as the forcing increases and low intensifies. Localized=20
    flooding is possible with round one, but the Slight risk come comes
    into play during the overnight hours when the second round of=20
    possible 1"/hr rainfall could briefly train along the trough axis=20
    extending northeast from the low.

    Areas south of the Slight risk over SC and GA have high rate
    potential, but shorter durations and less coverage of higher=20
    totals justify keeping the risk at Marginal. Areas north of the=20
    Slight over northeast NC into southeast VA have high total=20
    rainfall, but much lower probabilities of higher rainfall=20
    rates...justifying keeping this area in the Marginal.


    ...Northwest CA into southwest OR...
    We will maintain a Marginal risk across these areas. A cold front
    will push south across the region today, with some mid level=20
    shortwave energy and upper jet support moving over the front as=20
    well. This should provide enough forcing to generate rainfall up=20
    to 0.5"/hr, especially given some weak instability working into=20
    the back side of the front. High res guidance is in good agreement=20
    on widespread 1-2" amounts, with pockets of 3"+ rainfall within the
    more favored upslope areas. With soil saturation and streamflows=20
    running above normal over the area, it seems plausible that any=20
    embedded higher rates could cause some localized flooding concerns.

    Chenard



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024 - 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA...


    An area of low pressure moving up the coast will result in a heavy
    rain threat to portions of the eastern Mid-Atlantic Thursday into=20
    Thursday night. Highest rainfall totals are expected to be across
    eastern NC into southeast VA, where 1-3" of additional rainfall is
    probable. By this time instability should be lower across this=20
    area, although strong convergence and weak instability near the low
    track should still support rainfall totals upwards of 1"/hr,=20
    especially over eastern NC. Just like described in the day 1=20
    discussion, a Slight risk upgrade was issued over eastern NC where=20
    there is overlap in potential 3"+ total rainfall and 1"+/hr=20
    rainfall rates Thursday morning. Areas north of the Slight risk=20
    should have lower rainfall rates, warranting just a Marginal risk.

    A swath of 1-3" of rain is also expected across eastern New
    England. Given this region will be on the cool side of the
    developing low, not thinking we'll see hourly rainfall any higher
    than 0.25". However recent rainfall has resulted in above average
    soil saturation and streamflows across this area...so while flash
    flooding appears unlikely given the low rates...some areal flood
    concerns are a possibility given the saturated conditions. Rain on
    snow over eastern ME is also likely, although with temperatures
    only in the 30s and 40s with this rain, unlikely to see a rapid
    snow melt. Nonetheless, given the wet and or snowy conditions of=20
    late across this region...the additional 1-3" of rain warrants the
    continuation of the Marginal risk.

    Chenard



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024 - 12Z Sat Mar 30 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    A strong closed low dropping south off the CA coast will bring a
    heavy rainfall threat to the state Friday into Friday night. This
    is a pretty strong system for the time of year and latitude, with
    NAEFS anomalies indicating 850-700mb height forecasts near=20
    climatological record lows. Not the strongest IVT magnitudes with=20
    this system, but still over the 90th percentile, and ~30 kts of=20
    southerly flow at 850mb is aligned well to provide upslope=20
    enhancement into the Transverse Range. Still some timing=20
    uncertainty given we are still 3 days out, but the current model=20
    consensus indicates an uptick in rainfall as low level convergence=20
    increases over the Transverse Range between 06z-12z Saturday.=20
    Likely enough forcing, low level convergence and weak instability=20
    to support hourly rainfall over 0.5" across portions of Santa=20
    Barbara and Ventura counties. The 00z downscaled GFS and ECMWF=20
    indicate upwards of 2-4" of rain across these counties by 12z=20
    Saturday...and while this is higher than the official WPC forecast=20
    (given some lingering timing/strength uncertainties), these amounts
    are certainly possible. Thus think the Slight risk over these=20
    counties remains warranted.

    This Slight risk is surrounded by a broad Marginal risk over much=20
    of central CA. Less of a focus for heavy rainfall here, and the=20
    cold front will be progressive. Nonetheless enough forcing is=20
    seemingly present to drive a localized heavy rainfall threat,=20
    especially if some instability can work into the system.

    Chenard



    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_QC2SpJSdghgB43INvlWDXVtaN9x7jzrAOBZbxWugjR9= wknLsn6Vt6o6h-xGnzqCX1_qIIuzibjdo4DPAKxngsouw5s$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_QC2SpJSdghgB43INvlWDXVtaN9x7jzrAOBZbxWugjR9= wknLsn6Vt6o6h-xGnzqCX1_qIIuzibjdo4DPAKxnSN76XXg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_QC2SpJSdghgB43INvlWDXVtaN9x7jzrAOBZbxWugjR9= wknLsn6Vt6o6h-xGnzqCX1_qIIuzibjdo4DPAKxnM1cV2Po$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Mar 27 15:58:17 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1158 AM EDT Wed Mar 27 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Mar 27 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EAST CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Radar and satellite imagery from late this morning showed
    decreasing coverage and decreasing rainfall rates over Florida this
    morning. This allowed for the removal of the Slight Risk area
    across the region...but kept a Marginal Risk area along the western
    side of the Florida peninsula due to the proximity of active=20
    convection over the waters of the Gulf coast and the 12Z HREF=20
    guidance still attempting to bring some of the convection inland.
    The Slight Risk area farther north in the eastern portion of North
    Carolina still looks good and needed to changes at this point.
    Opted to remove the Marginal Risk area given the modest instability
    (at best) and spotty signals from the ensembles for 0.5 inches per
    hour rainfall rates. Felt the probability is non-zero but below 5
    percent.

    Bann


    08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    A swath of heavy rainfall is likely today into tonight across
    portions of the FL Panhandle, into southeast GA and northward into
    the central/eastern Carolinas.

    A Slight risk will be maintained across portions of the the FL
    Panhandle into southern GA. Convection should be ongoing across
    this area at 12z this morning, with 2"/hr rainfall possible given
    the instability and moisture in place. At the moment, it looks
    like activity will have enough eastward motion to limit the
    duration of the highest rainfall rates and keep any flash flood
    risk localized. By this afternoon we see an uptick in mid/upper
    forcing and strengthening low level convergence over the area. This
    should result in an uptick in convective coverage by this
    afternoon into this evening. It is unclear whether this activity
    will be organized enough to pose a flash flood risk. Flash flood
    guidance exceedance probabilities from both the 00z HREF and 18z
    REFS ensembles are very low, and not at the level we would expect
    to see for a Slight risk level threat. However we will have a slow
    moving boundary overhead, and multiple convective rounds appear
    probable into this evening. Given the ingredients, there is some
    chance this convection ends up a bit more robust than currently
    forecast in the models...and so while this is probably a lower end
    Slight risk, not confident enough for a downgrade.

    Morning convection over southeast GA into the Carolinas should be
    fairly weak. However by this afternoon we are expecting ~1500 j/kg
    of CAPE to develop near the stalled out front. Convergence near
    the front along with this increased instability should result in
    more robust convective development by or just after 18z. Based on
    HREF probabilities, expect 1"/hr to 1.5"/hr rainfall with this
    activity, but not currently anticipating anything over 2"/hr. Most
    indications are that this convective development will aid in
    pushing the stalled front a bit eastward with time. Thus while
    initial convection is expected more over east central SC/NC, this
    activity should push east with eroding instability from west to
    east.

    By later in the afternoon into the evening hours the focus
    for any more intense convection should be gradually shifting east
    over the Carolinas. This rainfall over the eastern Carolinas will
    likely be reinforced overnight by a developing low pressure along
    the front.

    Overall, neighborhood probabilities from both the 00z HREF and 18z
    REFS indicate a greater than 50% chance of 3"+ rainfall amounts
    through 12z Thursday over portions of the central and eastern
    Carolinas into southeast GA, however the probabilities of 5"+
    amounts drop significantly to only around 5%. Both soil saturation
    and streamflows are near to below average over most of this area,
    resulting in high FFG values. FFG exceedance probabilities from the
    HREF and REFS are low. Overall, a tricky call on whether to stick
    with a Marginal or upgrade to a Slight risk. Decided to go ahead
    with a targeted Slight risk area over portions of east central NC.
    This risk was placed where there is overlap between more coverage
    of 3-5" total rainfall, and 1"/hr or greater rainfall rates. The
    thinking is that with time FFG will lower as conditions saturate,
    which may eventually result in a more concentrated flash flood risk
    over the Slight risk area. This Slight risk area has the potential
    to see one round of convection this afternoon, and another
    overnight as the forcing increases and low intensifies. Localized
    flooding is possible with round one, but the Slight risk come comes
    into play during the overnight hours when the second round of
    possible 1"/hr rainfall could briefly train along the trough axis
    extending northeast from the low.

    Areas south of the Slight risk over SC and GA have high rate
    potential, but shorter durations and less coverage of higher
    totals justify keeping the risk at Marginal. Areas north of the
    Slight over northeast NC into southeast VA have high total
    rainfall, but much lower probabilities of higher rainfall
    rates...justifying keeping this area in the Marginal.


    ...Northwest CA into southwest OR...
    We will maintain a Marginal risk across these areas. A cold front
    will push south across the region today, with some mid level
    shortwave energy and upper jet support moving over the front as
    well. This should provide enough forcing to generate rainfall up
    to 0.5"/hr, especially given some weak instability working into
    the back side of the front. High res guidance is in good agreement
    on widespread 1-2" amounts, with pockets of 3"+ rainfall within the
    more favored upslope areas. With soil saturation and streamflows
    running above normal over the area, it seems plausible that any
    embedded higher rates could cause some localized flooding concerns.

    Chenard



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Mar 28 2024 - 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA...


    An area of low pressure moving up the coast will result in a heavy
    rain threat to portions of the eastern Mid-Atlantic Thursday into
    Thursday night. Highest rainfall totals are expected to be across
    eastern NC into southeast VA, where 1-3" of additional rainfall is
    probable. By this time instability should be lower across this
    area, although strong convergence and weak instability near the low
    track should still support rainfall totals upwards of 1"/hr,
    especially over eastern NC. Just like described in the day 1
    discussion, a Slight risk upgrade was issued over eastern NC where
    there is overlap in potential 3"+ total rainfall and 1"+/hr
    rainfall rates Thursday morning. Areas north of the Slight risk
    should have lower rainfall rates, warranting just a Marginal risk.

    A swath of 1-3" of rain is also expected across eastern New
    England. Given this region will be on the cool side of the
    developing low, not thinking we'll see hourly rainfall any higher
    than 0.25". However recent rainfall has resulted in above average
    soil saturation and streamflows across this area...so while flash
    flooding appears unlikely given the low rates...some areal flood
    concerns are a possibility given the saturated conditions. Rain on
    snow over eastern ME is also likely, although with temperatures
    only in the 30s and 40s with this rain, unlikely to see a rapid
    snow melt. Nonetheless, given the wet and or snowy conditions of
    late across this region...the additional 1-3" of rain warrants the
    continuation of the Marginal risk.

    Chenard



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024 - 12Z Sat Mar 30 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    A strong closed low dropping south off the CA coast will bring a
    heavy rainfall threat to the state Friday into Friday night. This
    is a pretty strong system for the time of year and latitude, with
    NAEFS anomalies indicating 850-700mb height forecasts near
    climatological record lows. Not the strongest IVT magnitudes with
    this system, but still over the 90th percentile, and ~30 kts of
    southerly flow at 850mb is aligned well to provide upslope
    enhancement into the Transverse Range. Still some timing
    uncertainty given we are still 3 days out, but the current model
    consensus indicates an uptick in rainfall as low level convergence
    increases over the Transverse Range between 06z-12z Saturday.
    Likely enough forcing, low level convergence and weak instability
    to support hourly rainfall over 0.5" across portions of Santa
    Barbara and Ventura counties. The 00z downscaled GFS and ECMWF
    indicate upwards of 2-4" of rain across these counties by 12z
    Saturday...and while this is higher than the official WPC forecast
    (given some lingering timing/strength uncertainties), these amounts
    are certainly possible. Thus think the Slight risk over these
    counties remains warranted.

    This Slight risk is surrounded by a broad Marginal risk over much
    of central CA. Less of a focus for heavy rainfall here, and the
    cold front will be progressive. Nonetheless enough forcing is
    seemingly present to drive a localized heavy rainfall threat,
    especially if some instability can work into the system.

    Chenard



    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7CXhMfwsgPHfFDJlQx7ZOW8QVn6jPMZPjW2GMbIpmZZ3= 9CBrHf7JgnWCpQbIpK8HvLmC_mdbtSRDJ5xt0ZLiDyhsO8s$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7CXhMfwsgPHfFDJlQx7ZOW8QVn6jPMZPjW2GMbIpmZZ3= 9CBrHf7JgnWCpQbIpK8HvLmC_mdbtSRDJ5xt0ZLiE7YjDEs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7CXhMfwsgPHfFDJlQx7ZOW8QVn6jPMZPjW2GMbIpmZZ3= 9CBrHf7JgnWCpQbIpK8HvLmC_mdbtSRDJ5xt0ZLiCSMUnXM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Apr 16 18:26:15 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    226 PM EDT Tue Apr 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 1830Z Tue Apr 16 2024 - 12Z Wed Apr 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS SOUTHWARD THROUGH MUCH OF THE
    MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...1815Z Special Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Slow-moving convection had evolved into a complex that was
    producing 1 to 2.5 inch rainfall per hour rates over portions of
    northeast Nebraska into far western Iowa as of early this
    afternoon. The rates...combined with the fact that the convection
    has already persisted for a couple of hours and the proximity to
    mid/upper level cold temperatures...has raised the potential for
    flash flooding in the area. Have issued a Slight Risk area to cover
    that potential. Refer to Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0159
    for additional details.

    Bann

    ...16Z Update...

    Previous forecast was maintained with only minor modifications to
    the expansive MRGL risk area extending from the northern Plains
    into the Mississippi Valley over into the central Appalachians.
    Current radar/sat composite shows our broad surface reflection with
    SLP center located over central NE. Convective points of interest
    include the current convective bands located over SD/NE and MO/IA
    that are producing efficient rates of 1-2"/hr within the banded
    structures (More info in MPD #0158). This trend will continue as
    warm front progression lifts north and portions of the central
    Midwest see an increase in convective coverage after 18z with a
    progressive propagation to the northeast. The previous discussion
    outlines the reasoning perfectly as the combo of progressive storm
    motions and drier antecedent conditions over the impacted area will
    limit flooding in an areal extent and lean more locally within one
    or two cells that could over perform given the favorably evolving
    environment. Generally max QPF of 3-3.5" is the top end forecast
    given the latest probability fields from both NBM and HREF with
    majority seeing closer to 1.25-2.25" as per the latest mean(s).

    Over the south, increased diffluent pattern downstream of the mean
    trough will initiate a line of convection beginning in the Lower
    Mississippi Valley over AR, spreading northeast into the Ohio Valley
    by later in the period. This line will not have as favored an ascent
    pattern as areas in the Midwest, so the threat for flash flooding
    leans more on the lower end of MRGL comparatively, but certainly
    non-zero. Another smaller area over WV has a low-end probability
    for flash flood concerns as an area of mid-level vorticity advects
    northward into the region during the time of peak diurnal
    instability. MLCAPE around 1000-1500 J/kg are forecast in-of
    central and eastern WV which is enough to spur some local
    thunderstorm activity within the terrain. Chances again are low,
    but non-zero with some CAMs being more aggressive with the
    opportunity, so maintained continuity.

    Kleebauer

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Showers and thunderstorm are expected to align near and north of
    an east-west orientated warm frontal boundary that is stretched
    across the eastern portions of the Plains and the Ohio Valley. The
    highest rainfall rates and accumulation will likely be concentrated
    along the Minnesota/Iowa border where instability will be most
    supportive to produce 1-2"/hr rainfall over this area, which will
    likely exceed 1hr FFG in spots. One limiting factor for flash
    flooding will be the swift movement of cells, limiting the duration
    of heavy rates. Training/backbuilding near the warm front could
    help accumulations to reach or exceed 5 inches.

    Although there may be some 1hr and 3hr FFG exceedance, the
    coverage and magnitude of impacts are expected to remain below
    Slight risk levels. The main threat will be to urban areas, where
    the intense rates may lead to localized flash flooding. Outside of
    urban areas the dry ground and limited green vegetation may allow
    for some excess runoff, however these impacts are expected to
    remain isolated as well. A Marginal Risk area spans from the
    eastern Dakotas, Upper/Central Mississippi Valley and across parts
    of the Mid-Mississippi Valley.

    Campbell

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 17 2024 - 12Z Thu Apr 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT LAKES, OHIO VALLEY AND WESTERN PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST...

    Showers and thunderstorms will track eastward across the Ohio
    Valley and some of these storms will be strong and capable of
    producing high rainfall rates. Overall, the storm motion will be
    but should generally be progressive in nature. There is less
    instability with eastward extent, which should result in lower
    rainfall rates. But given the above average soil saturation and
    streamflows over portions of Pennsylvania and New York the
    Marginal looks good.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Apr 18 2024 - 12Z Fri Apr 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Another low pressure system will develop across the
    Southern/Central Plains and tap into the return flow from the Gulf
    of Mexico. Convection is expected to fire up ahead of the
    approaching cold front with areal averages of 1 to 2+ inches across
    the Missouri Ozarks/Mid-Mississippi Valley and trailing southwest
    to central Texas. Recent rains will have lowered some of the FFG
    across this region and may have an increased sensitivity to
    additional rain/heavy rain. A Marginal Risk area covers part of
    northeast Texas to southern Missouri and western Kentucky.


    Campbell


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-iYjDA3XHM7ymKEJ0wma2cde-oxszA61ALa1U_aZD-Y3= Zv4mBcv9jlldJSjiRQUxzqeq3kZYqM9K2OEdSvuGLf-N4M0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-iYjDA3XHM7ymKEJ0wma2cde-oxszA61ALa1U_aZD-Y3= Zv4mBcv9jlldJSjiRQUxzqeq3kZYqM9K2OEdSvuGOi_7CaU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Apr 29 02:28:49 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1028 PM EDT Sun Apr 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 0221Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024

    ...A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EAST TEXAS INTO FAR WESTERN LOUISIANA...

    ...0230z Special Update...

    A line of slow-moving thunderstorms will continue to train over
    portions of east TX with the primary line situated from
    Bryan/College Station, east-northeast to the LA border. Rainfall
    rates in excess of 3"/hr have been reported with 2-3 hr totals
    approaching 6" in places within the line. A strong convergent
    signature is noted on radar with light returns feeding up from the
    south against the band of heavy rainfall. Until cold pool
    propagation can occur, significant totals in excess of 8-12"+ will
    be plausible as indicated via the latest HRRR which has the best=20
    short-term handle on the convection. A targeted Moderate Risk has=20
    been added to the D1 update to reflect the increasingly likelihood=20
    of flash flooding, as well as locally significant impacts likely=20
    within the next 3-6 hours.=20

    Kleebauer

    ...01Z update...

    00Z radar imagery and surface observations showed convection
    becoming more numerous and more intense from parts of Southern
    Plains into the Lower and Middle Mississippi Valley. High=20
    resolution CAM guidance latched on to that idea...building=20
    confidence in their solutions showing activity persisting into the=20
    overnight night hours before the intensity wanes. The primary=20
    concern for flash flooding appears to be from southern Arkansas=20
    into southeast Texas and nearby portions of Louisiana where=20
    rainfall rates appear to be sufficient to result in excessive=20
    rainfall in the event of training/repeat convection. Farther north=20
    in the mid-Mississippi Valley there is a potential for flash=20
    flooding from a second area of convection due to soils having=20
    become saturated by recent heavy rainfall and therefore more prone=20
    for flash flooding even with lower rainfall rates/amounts=20
    (especially from eastern Oklahoma into southwest Missouri). Not=20
    entirely sold on the latest HRRR idea of bridging the two areas=20
    with rainfall amounts/rates on the order of that produced by=20
    convection to the south...with a corresponding degree of excessive=20
    rainfall threat...but certainly not going to rule it out entirely=20
    while not ruling out the risk of flash flooding there overnight.

    Bann

    ...Previous Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    Expect to see additional convective development along the
    front/dryline across TX into eastern OK, with this activity pushing
    eastward into AR and southern MO by this evening. This will be
    supported by strong and persistent upper level divergence, and
    increasing 850mb moisture transport/convergence into the
    front/dryline. The 850mb moisture transport axis is a bit more
    progressive compared to Saturday, which combined with cold pool
    generation from the organized convection, should result in an
    eastward propagation of convection. Maybe just enough of an
    eastward motion to prevent a more widespread flash flood event.
    However, with the orientation of convection likely to match mean
    steering flow from the southwest at times...there will still likely
    be some brief training of cells. This will support rainfall rates
    as high as 1-3"/hr at times, and do expect we will at least see
    isolated to scattered flash flooding over a fairly large swath from
    eastern TX into southern MO.

    HREF EAS probabilities of exceeding 2" get as high as 40-70% over
    the area, but 3" EAS probabilities drop to 15-30%. Meanwhile
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3" are over 50% over a
    large area, but 5" probabilities drop more into the 15-30% range.
    With EAS probabilities more indicative of QPF coverage, and
    neighborhood probabilities higher end maximum potential...this all
    suggests that areal averaged rainfall will tend to stay in the
    1-3" range...with localized swaths of 3-5" likely as well. However
    5"+ totals are a bit more uncertain...and while I'm sure we will
    see a swath or two of over 5" of rain, exactly where remains
    unclear. Overall would like to have seen a more concentrated and
    higher 5" probabilities to upgrade to a MDT risk. From a hydrology
    perspective, soil saturation and streamflows are elevated over
    some of this area, and not as much of other locations. Thus not
    quite enough sensitivity to justify using this as a reason to do a
    categorical upgrade at this time.

    Thus, overall still think this event remains as a higher end
    Slight risk across eastern TX, western LA, southeast OK, central
    and western AR and southern MO. Both the 00z and 06z HRRR runs have
    been aggressive with convective training and QPF amounts on the
    southwest flank of the area of convection over southeast TX into
    far western LA. This is a typical favorable location for
    training/backbuilding, so the HRRR evolution is possible. However
    the HRRR is further south of the higher HREF probabilities...while
    the experimental NSSL MPAS runs are actually further south of the
    HRRR, and even indicate the possibility ongoing convection in the
    morning persists and propagates fairly quickly through the region.
    Thus think there is still a bit too much uncertainty to go with a
    MDT risk upgrade...although this appears to be the most likely
    location for one...and so will continue to monitor observational
    and model trends today.

    Across the Midwest into Wisconsin and Michigan, a broad Marginal
    Risk remained in place with minor adjustments from continuity. Not
    a much instability here, and convection should generally be moving
    along at a decent clip. Although like further south, some brief
    along track training is possible given steering flow parallel to
    the boundary.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The convective and heavy rain threat shifts eastward into the
    lower Mississippi Valley on Monday. Thunderstorms with heavy rain
    are likely to be ongoing at the start of the period Monday morning
    across portions of far southeast TX into portions of LA and
    MS...and the main flash flood threat looks to be focused in roughly
    the first 12 hours of the outlook period. An impressive combination
    of mid/upper forcing, low level convergence, instability and
    moisture should be present to support a flash flood risk across
    this region.

    The 12Z model consensus indicates about 1000-1500 J/kg MLCAPE
    ahead of what is expected to be a lingering nocturnal MCS from
    eastern TX into LA. Precipitable water values are forecast to be
    approaching 2 inches just ahead of the forecast leading edge of the
    MCS with southerly 850 mb winds of 30 to 40+ kt just ahead,
    advecting in moisture from the south. The region will also lie
    within the diffluent and divergent right-entrance region of 100 to
    130 kt upper level jet max. Timing and placement differences
    remain within the 12Z components of the 12Z HREF concerning
    placement of the expected MCS at 12Z Monday, but the best
    probabilities for rainfall rates in the 2-3 in/hr range exist from north-central LA into southwestern LA and southeastern TX where backbuilding/training are most probable. The southwestern flank of
    the MCS is expected to move offshore into the Gulf of Mexico
    during the day as the leading edge continues to advance eastward
    across the Lower MS Valley. The forecast evolution of the MCS has
    it weakening and/or moving offshore by 00Z which should end or at
    least significant decrease the flash flood threat for the region.

    Farther north, a broad Marginal encompasses locations in the middle
    MS and lower OH Valley, eastward into the TN Valley. These
    locations will be within an anomalous moisture axis (standardized
    PWAT anomalies of +1 to +2) and at least weak instability, located
    ahead of a cold front approaching the lower OH Valley during the
    day. Convective coverage will expand with daytime heating and while
    most storms should stay progressive enough to limit flash flood
    concerns, a similar orientation/magnitude of the mean steering and
    850 mb flow suggests potential for localized training which may
    pose some flash flood concerns despite dry antecedent ground
    conditions.

    Otto

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024 - 12Z Wed May 01 2024

    ...A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...AND OVER
    THE UPPER TENNESSEE/OHIO VALLEYS INTO THE APPALACHIANS...

    ...Northeast...
    A lower end Marginal Risk was maintained for central PA into
    Upstate NY and portions of VT where localized 1 to 3 inch rainfall
    totals may occur. Guidance indicates the presence of a NW to SE
    oriented stationary front across this region on Tuesday, which
    will likely help enhance lower level convergence, along with the
    approach of a cold front from the west. Lift ahead of an
    approaching mid to upper-level shortwave and associated right
    entrance region of a jet max in southern Ontario/Quebec will aid in
    convective development. MLCAPE of ~500 to 1000+ J/kg is probable
    via the 12Z NAM (GFS tends to bias low with instability) over
    portions of PA and NY, although a bit less certain over VT. PWs are
    forecast to be quite high for late April/early May, with values
    from the 12Z NAM/GFS/ECMWF just over 1.25" (approaching
    climatological 99th percentile). Given the ingredients in place, it
    seems plausible that at least an isolated flash flood risk could
    evolve.

    ...Upper Ohio/Tennessee Valleys into the adjacent Appalachians...
    Some degree of overnight showers and thunderstorms is expected to
    continue into Tuesday morning from KY into TN, south and east of a
    cold front approaching from the west. It's not clear if storms
    lingering into Tuesday morning from the overnight will pose a flash
    flood concern but some redevelopment of convection is likely
    during the afternoon hours. Moisture anomalies are forecast to
    decrease during the day as an upper trough passes by overhead, but
    a small window for localized flash flooding appears possible prior
    to winds shifting around to the northwest near/after 00Z.


    ...Midwest to Upper Mississippi Valley...
    A broad Marginal risk extends from north central TX north into the
    Upper Midwest. The northern portion of this risk over IA and MN/WI
    will see the strongest forcing as a low pressure and a negatively
    tilted shortwave moves across the north-central U.S. The attendant
    cold front will be progressive, which suggests convection will be
    moving quick enough to prevent a higher flash flood threat. However
    do see enough instability and moisture to support briefly heavy
    rates, which could cause some localized urban flooding and/or
    isolated flash flood issues where ground conditions are more
    sensitive from recent rainfall.

    ...Southern to Central Plains...
    Further south the front is expected to become stationary over KS
    with a dryline extending southward from western OK into
    northwestern TX. Locations near the front could result in a training/backbuilding convective risk, although large scale forcing
    appears weak due to a lack of height falls across the region.
    Nonetheless, the presence of the stalling front and increasing low
    level flow into this boundary does suggest at least some flash
    flood risk could evolve.

    Even farther south into OK and TX, while there could be a weak
    perturbation aloft that helps to initiate convection, daytime
    heating and erosion of CIN might be the main driver of convective
    initiation along a dryline. 0-6 km bulk shear is forecast by the
    12Z GFS to be somewhat lackluster but seasonably moist airmass and
    recent heavy rain may be enough to support localized areas of flash
    flooding, especially if there is overlap with remaining
    hydrologically sensitive locations.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5G2FMs00mhhg1Gre3A3Htkrp3fkb_5ASYrCpvbQU8xUv= tAsVLe3jpKMtVftrRppKuWBBcLpvJTgJNw6xENPXtewOKWA$=20
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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5G2FMs00mhhg1Gre3A3Htkrp3fkb_5ASYrCpvbQU8xUv= tAsVLe3jpKMtVftrRppKuWBBcLpvJTgJNw6xENPXA2HGYXo$=20

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