• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion...corrected

    From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Mar 15 16:41:37 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1241 PM EDT Fri Mar 15 2024

    Day 1

    Valid 16Z Fri Mar 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Mar 16 2024



    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTH TEXAS AND PORTIONS OF THE SOUTH...

    ...16Z Update...

    The previous forecast reasoning still holds. The Slight Risk area=20
    in the Mid-South has been removed as the flash flood threat is=20
    decreasing in this area. The line of thunderstorms moving across=20
    the Southeast has been fairly progressive this morning, and=20
    instability drops sharply behind the main convective line, limiting
    rainfall rates in the stratiform ran on the backside of the=20
    boundary. Rainfall rates have also begun decreasing in storms on=20
    the leading edge and should continue to trend downwards into this=20
    afternoon and evening, making it difficult for rainfall rates=20
    exceeding flash flood guidance to be realized. However, isolated=20
    stronger storms could still cause localized flash flooding concerns
    in the South and Southeast.=20

    There is a second Slight Risk area in effect for portions of=20
    Texas where the environment will be favorable for convective=20
    development this afternoon. There is quite a bit of uncertainty=20
    and spread among the available guidance as to where the heaviest=20 precipitation will develop, but the consensus remains that heavy=20
    rainfall is expected. Stronger storms may produce intense rainfall
    rates, potentially reaching up to 3-4 inches per hour, which=20
    could cause flash flooding, especially in urban areas.=20

    The broader Marginal Risk remains largely unchanged from Texas to=20
    the Southeast Coast with minor adjustments made in the Southeast to
    adjust for latest radar trends.=20

    Dolan


    ...Previous Discussion...

    A cold front begins to accelerate to the southeast across the
    Southeast as a broad upper level trough gains real estate across=20
    portions of the Great Lakes and Upper Midwest, with the front=20
    moving slower to the south into the Southern Plains as a cold low=20
    in the Desert Southwest shows minimal movement and keeps the upper
    level flow southwest to west- southwesterly which should slow the
    surface boundary's progression. This combination of systems=20
    flattens the ridging across the Southeast and Gulf Coast.=20
    Temperatures at 700 hPa suggest that the heaviest rainfall should=20
    be north of southern TX, where temperatures are <6C, based on GFS=20
    forecasts and ML CAPE should rise to ~3000 J/kg. An axis of=20
    anomalous PW values, 1.5-1.75", will be seen near the front.=20

    Another day of potentially widespread heavy rainfall is expected,
    as hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts to 4" remain=20
    possible. There is the typical amount of spread with respect to
    the position and maxima within the heavy rainfall axis, but the=20
    overall model consensus suggests potentially heavy rains. Some=20
    heavy rainfall is expected across areas of Mississippi, Alabama
    and Georgia that have had above average precip over the past week=20
    or two, resulting in higher stream flows and greater soil=20
    saturation which continues to be the reason for the Slight Risk,=20
    over other considerations. The pair of Slight Risk areas remain to=20
    depict the bimodal distribution of the heavy rainfall pattern in=20
    the southern tier of the country, with the eastern portions=20
    associated with the progressive frontal zone/850 hPa confluence=20
    early on more northerly and the western portions associated with=20
    the slow-moving boundary shifting more southerly. Despite the=20
    slowness of the progression in TX, the guidance appears weaker in=20
    its support for this heavy rainfall. Kept the Slight Risk there as=20
    a precaution since the ingredients still appear to support a=20
    greater than isolated flash flood risk.

    The Marginal Risk for areas north of approximately Chattanooga TN=20
    was removed as convective progression through 06z and MU CAPE
    trends the last several hours suggested that any threat north of
    there would be more or less done by 12z.

    Roth


    Day 2

    Valid 12Z Sat Mar 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Mar 17 2024



    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST TEXAS...

    Difluence aloft ahead of an upper level low moving slowly across=20
    Arizona teams up with a sagging front in southern TX to continue=20
    the potential for heavy rainfall in the front's vicinity. The=20
    guidance has become broadly wetter when compared to this time
    yesterday, which led to some expansion in the Slight Risk area.=20
    Temperatures at 700 hPa imply that the heavy rain threat should be
    mainly north of southernmost TX, based on GFS forecasts. Inflow at
    850 hPa from the Gulf should pulse up to 25-30 kts at times,=20
    importing ML CAPE of 2000 J/kg or so. Effective bulk shear should=20
    be sufficient for organized convection, capable of producing
    hourly rain totals to 2" and local amounts to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3

    Valid 12Z Sun Mar 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Mar 18 2024



    ...A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

    Organized convection overriding a front is expected to lead to=20
    heavy rainfall for portions of the northern Gulf coast. Sufficient
    850 hPa inflow off of the Gulf of Mexico, up to 40 kts, will lure=20 precipitable water values of 1.5-1.75" into the region and MU CAPE
    up to 2000 J/kg. A slight amount of warming at 700 hPa could lead
    to some northward shift in the convection, when compared to
    Saturday. The main issue from an excessive rainfall perspective is
    the progression noted, as an upper trough sharpens across the Ohio
    and Mississippi Valleys and helps act to shift the moisture
    plume/best 850 hPa inflow east with time. Hourly rain totals to=20
    2.5" with local amounts to 4" are possible where limited cell=20
    training occurs and/or mesocyclones happen to develop.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uskGtRvIXLFpgYYFkhHZbLFU-OzKVY6W0si7IQgrj51= 6WjqQecwBj5VyOc6LJYP1u_XY1FYL45rN4Nb7n8R_Dg7xnk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uskGtRvIXLFpgYYFkhHZbLFU-OzKVY6W0si7IQgrj51= 6WjqQecwBj5VyOc6LJYP1u_XY1FYL45rN4Nb7n8RIhBitxQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uskGtRvIXLFpgYYFkhHZbLFU-OzKVY6W0si7IQgrj51= 6WjqQecwBj5VyOc6LJYP1u_XY1FYL45rN4Nb7n8Rwbez2HE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Mar 18 07:29:04 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    328 AM EDT Mon Mar 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Mar 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 21 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-Sx29V7p15VteCBMeLLaYY3Rh9lPSmCdvb5nwUOSthPn= dknrnvLZcyyXb_DzI1x7n4qa14y2qAdZnUV4SWNFq7cfj2E$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-Sx29V7p15VteCBMeLLaYY3Rh9lPSmCdvb5nwUOSthPn= dknrnvLZcyyXb_DzI1x7n4qa14y2qAdZnUV4SWNFjkvuAFU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-Sx29V7p15VteCBMeLLaYY3Rh9lPSmCdvb5nwUOSthPn= dknrnvLZcyyXb_DzI1x7n4qa14y2qAdZnUV4SWNF-iQ1NoI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Mar 18 15:08:35 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1108 AM EDT Mon Mar 18 2024

    Day 1

    Valid 16Z Mon Mar 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024

    ...16Z Update...

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman

    Day 2

    Valid 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill

    Day 3

    Valid 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 21 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-AxPOHWyfVruV0rhlRlA6Kbt9LuYxZl4Lk-Lwnt5g-vY= 9qIxHdMR-aJ6sd3Xer3fF2qCSwFKZCb9rzsj9IsOvIiDyoY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-AxPOHWyfVruV0rhlRlA6Kbt9LuYxZl4Lk-Lwnt5g-vY= 9qIxHdMR-aJ6sd3Xer3fF2qCSwFKZCb9rzsj9IsOUocEHCI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-AxPOHWyfVruV0rhlRlA6Kbt9LuYxZl4Lk-Lwnt5g-vY= 9qIxHdMR-aJ6sd3Xer3fF2qCSwFKZCb9rzsj9IsOjvUGJ1o$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Mar 18 19:59:25 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    359 PM EDT Mon Mar 18 2024

    Day 1

    Valid 01Z Tue Mar 19 2024 - 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024


    ...16Z Update...

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman

    Day 2

    Valid 12Z Tue Mar 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024

    ...2030Z Update...

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman

    Day 3

    Valid 12Z Wed Mar 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Mar 21 2024

    ...2030Z Update...

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4C6POp8dAHZoKysFuWqFrX4jX6eXcUx9vlfUGzb9L-3S= uLp8a5USwviDkJ2vROUwHByUnMUxfQaVvEtfwcSJA6cXmCA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4C6POp8dAHZoKysFuWqFrX4jX6eXcUx9vlfUGzb9L-3S= uLp8a5USwviDkJ2vROUwHByUnMUxfQaVvEtfwcSJ0uIRBP8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4C6POp8dAHZoKysFuWqFrX4jX6eXcUx9vlfUGzb9L-3S= uLp8a5USwviDkJ2vROUwHByUnMUxfQaVvEtfwcSJngz_Ivg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Mar 28 20:14:11 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    413 PM EDT Thu Mar 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 2007Z Thu Mar 28 2024 - 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST U.S....

    ...New England...
    A Slight Risk of excessive rainfall remains over portions of New=20
    England through tonight. Satellite imagery showed another region of
    cooling cloud tops upstream from the area as of late this=20
    morning...so any respite from rainfall overnight and early this=20
    morning should be short-lived. The expectation is that neither=20
    rainfall rates nor rainfall amounts will be blockbuster in=20
    magnitude and that most places would be handled under most=20
    circumstances (as suggested by the 12Z HREF neighborhood=20
    probabilities showing less than 5 percent risk of 1-/3-/6-hour QPF=20
    exceeding respective Flash Flood Guidance). But discussions with=20
    the National Water Center and offices in the area indicate that the
    amount of water added by melting and compaction of the snowpack=20
    may be enough for more than isolated problems with runoff in areas=20
    of poor drainage. 12Z HREF guidance shows better coverage of=20
    rainfall along and near the coastal regions of New England with=20
    nearly 1.5 inches of additional rainfall.

    ...Eastern Carolinas...
    As the threat for heavy rainfall in and near eastern NC is ending,
    the risk areas for these region were eliminated in this special
    update.

    Bann/Roth


    08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...New England...
    As the previously noted low develops and approaches from the south,
    a slow-moving front will provide the focus for deepening moisture
    and soaking rains across much of coastal New England. Overall,
    models have remained consistent in showing a long stripe of 1-3
    inch amounts extending from eastern Connecticut to DownEast Maine.
    Rainfall rates will be limited by a lack instability, likely
    topping out near 0.25 inch/hour. However, given the recent rainfall
    and saturated soils, there remain some runoff concerns, promoting
    the continuation of a Marginal Risk.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Mar 29 2024 - 12Z Sat Mar 30 2024

    ....THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    20Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Few changes were needed with models continuing to bring a closed
    low southward along the northern California coast on Friday
    night/Saturday morning. Higher rainfall rates look to approach the
    central and southern coast of California late Friday night or very
    early Saturday morning. The previous outlook had that covered and
    only minor adjustments were made based on the 12Z suite of model
    guidance and WPC QPF. Likewise...made minor adjustments to the
    northern extent of the Marginal Risk area in Maine given the latest
    spaghetti plots of higher QPF. In addition...there should be a
    change in precipitation type from rain to snow as cold advection
    sweeps across Maine which will help mitigate excessive rainfall
    concerns.

    Bann


    08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    A well-defined shortwave diving west of a closed low centered west
    of Vancouver Island is expected to support the development of a
    closed low further south that will drop south along the northern
    California coast Friday into Saturday. Models continue to advertise
    an anomalously deep system for this time of year, with 500 mb
    heights dropping 1-3 standard deviations below normal across much
    of California this period. Deep southwesterly flow ahead of the low
    will support increasing IVTs, with the highest values dropping
    south along the coast from Monterey Bay into the Transverse Ranges.
    A Slight Risk was maintained over Santa Barbara and Ventura
    counties, where the models continue to show a decent signal for
    locally heavy amounts in the favored terrain. The consensus of the deterministic guidance shows amounts of 1-3 inches in the region,
    with locally heavier amounts possible by 12Z Saturday. There is
    also some signal for locally heavy amounts further to the north
    along the immediate coast, indicating the Slight Risk area may need
    to be drawn further to north into central California. But for now,
    maintained a broad Marginal Risk that covers much of central
    California from the coast into the Sierra foothills.

    ....DownEast Maine...
    Rain developing across the region on Day 1 is expected to carry
    over into early Friday with an additional 1-2 inches of rain
    expected before precipitation changes over snow and diminishes
    behind of the departing low. As on Day 1, a lack of instability
    will limit rainfall rates and the potential for flash flooding.
    However, areal flooding will remain a concern given the saturated
    soils.


    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Mar 30 2024 - 12Z Sun Mar 31 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA..

    20Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Consistent model and ensemble QPF across southern California and
    with WPC QPF meant little need for more than minor adjustments to
    the previously issued Slight Risk across portions of southern
    California and the eastward extension of the Marginal risk into
    portions of southern Nevada and western Arizona.

    Bann


    08Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    As an anomalously deep low continues to drop south, excessive
    rainfall concerns developing on Day 2 are expected to continue and
    expand further south across portions of southern California this
    period. Increasing IVTs associated with a well-defined frontal
    boundary will push across southern California on Saturday, with PWs
    reaching 0.75-1 inch (2-3 standard deviations above normal). A
    Slight Risk remains in place from the Transverse into the
    Peninsular Ranges, where areal average amounts of 1-3 inches are
    expected.

    Moisture spreading east of the mountains will support widespread
    precipitation, with locally heavy amounts possible into the lower
    Colorado Basin, where a Marginal Risk was maintained for portions
    of southern Nevada and western Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_OBZbJ0ht-2lkiQUn1G_XW1Jsph34xdLORONRAjOqRiG= 9EesDDG0QGf4rDrr23eWg_EhlrLPPmpgkYzlc0xe8RgbriI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_OBZbJ0ht-2lkiQUn1G_XW1Jsph34xdLORONRAjOqRiG= 9EesDDG0QGf4rDrr23eWg_EhlrLPPmpgkYzlc0xepjv4pTs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_OBZbJ0ht-2lkiQUn1G_XW1Jsph34xdLORONRAjOqRiG= 9EesDDG0QGf4rDrr23eWg_EhlrLPPmpgkYzlc0xeS1MpV24$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Apr 28 16:09:20 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1208 PM EDT Sun Apr 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Apr 28 2024 - 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS EASTERN PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...16Z update...

    15Z radar imagery and surface observations showed a broad area of
    stratiform rain with weakening embedded convection from central AR
    into east-central TX. There is good agreement in the 12Z hires
    model suite for redevelopment/reintensification of thunderstorms
    between 18-00Z this evening. It is still a bit unclear if remnant=20
    outflow will help to initiate storms and/or the dryline farther=20
    west in central TX. Either way, a broad region of thunderstorms=20
    aligned from NNE to SSW from eastern OK/western AR into eastern TX=20
    appears likely. Within this area of thunderstorms will likely be=20
    portions that align with the steering flow supporting training.=20
    Current thinking is there could be a bi-modal distribution of heavy
    rain, first across portions of eastern TX into western LA and far=20
    southern AR where inflow/instability should be maximized, and an=20
    area farther north from far eastern OK into southern MO/northern AR
    where synoptic scale lift will be greatest. Confidence for a=20
    Moderate is still not there but perhaps a late update to Moderate=20
    is possible as the convective situation becomes clearer later this=20 afternoon.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    Convection will be ongoing at 12z this morning across portions of=20
    eastern OK and TX, into western AR/MO. Still looking like activity=20
    will be progressing off to the east at a greater clip by this time,
    and the overall convective intensity should also be on a gradual=20
    downward trend. Thus, while some lingering flash flood risk into=20
    this morning is likely over these areas, the risk should be on a=20
    decreasing trend.

    By this afternoon expect to see additional convective development
    along the front/dryline across TX into eastern OK, with this
    activity pushing eastward into AR and southern MO by this evening.
    This will be supported by strong and persistent upper level
    divergence, and increasing 850mb moisture transport/convergence
    into the front/dryline. The 850mb moisture transport axis is a bit
    more progressive compared to Saturday, which combined with cold
    pool generation from the organized convection, should result in an
    eastward propagation of convection. Maybe just enough of an
    eastward motion to prevent a more widespread flash flood event.
    However, with the orientation of convection likely to match mean
    steering flow from the southwest at times...there will still likely
    be some brief training of cells. This will support rainfall rates
    as high as 1-3"/hr at times, and do expect we will at least see
    isolated to scattered flash flooding over a fairly large swath from
    eastern TX into southern MO.

    HREF EAS probabilities of exceeding 2" get as high as 40-70% over
    the area, but 3" EAS probabilities drop to 15-30%. Meanwhile
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3" are over 50% over a
    large area, but 5" probabilities drop more into the 15-30% range.
    With EAS probabilities more indicative of QPF coverage, and
    neighborhood probabilities higher end maximum potential...this all
    suggests that areal averaged rainfall will tend to stay in the
    1-3" range...with localized swaths of 3-5" likely as well. However
    5"+ totals are a bit more uncertain...and while I'm sure we will
    see a swath or two of over 5" of rain, exactly where remains
    unclear. Overall would like to have seen a more concentrated and
    higher 5" probabilities to upgrade to a MDT risk. From a hydrology
    perspective, soil saturation and streamflows are elevated over
    some of this area, and not as much of other locations. Thus not
    quite enough sensitivity to justify using this as a reason to do a
    categorical upgrade at this time.

    Thus, overall still think this event remains as a higher end
    Slight risk across eastern TX, western LA, southeast OK, central
    and western AR and southern MO. Both the 00z and 06z HRRR runs have
    been aggressive with convective training and QPF amounts on the
    southwest flank of the area of convection over southeast TX into
    far western LA. This is a typical favorable location for
    training/backbuilding, so the HRRR evolution is possible. However
    the HRRR is further south of the higher HREF probabilities...while
    the experimental NSSL MPAS runs are actually further south of the
    HRRR, and even indicate the possibility ongoing convection in the
    morning persists and propagates fairly quickly through the region.
    Thus think there is still a bit too much uncertainty to go with a
    MDT risk upgrade...although this appears to be the most likely
    location for one...and so will continue to monitor observational
    and model trends today.

    Across the Midwest into Wisconsin and Michigan, a broad Marginal
    Risk remained in place with minor adjustments from continuity. Not
    a much instability here, and convection should generally be moving
    along at a decent clip. Although like further south, some brief
    along track training is possible given steering flow parallel to
    the boundary.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY..

    The convective and heavy rain threat shifts eastward into the lower
    Mississippi Valley on Monday. Thunderstorms with heavy rain are
    likely to be ongoing at the start of the period Monday morning
    across portions of far southeast TX into portions of LA and
    MS...and the main flash flood threat looks to be focused in roughly
    the first 12 hours of the outlook period. Models continue to show
    an impressive combination of mid/upper forcing, low level
    convergence, instability and moisture to support a flash flood risk
    across this region.

    Most indications are that convection will be progressing off to
    the southeast Monday morning given a gradual eastward push of the
    convergence axis and cold pool prorogation. This is expected to
    limit the extent and magnitude of any flash flood risk. However,
    depending on the exact orientation of the convection by this time,
    we could see some backbuilding/training on the southwest flank of
    the MCS. This is most likely over LA, and this could drive a more
    organized flash flood risk. Even without any more pronounced
    training, the expected organized MCS will still be capable of
    hourly rainfall as high as 2-3"/hr given the expected instability
    and moisture in place. This should be enough to drive an isolated
    to scattered flash flood risk, especially over urban areas. It
    should be noted that there is some uncertainty on the timing of
    the MCS, with the 00z and 06z HRRR suggesting the organized
    convection is almost offshore by 12z. While this is a possibility
    (and would require shrinking the Slight risk), this is more of an
    outlier scenario at the moment....with most models supporting the
    MCS more over central LA at 12z.

    Additional convection is likely from MS into portions of the TN and
    OH Valley. This activity will have the support of a compact
    shortwave pushing east across the region. The progressive nature
    of this feature, and more limited instability to work with, both
    suggest any flash flood risk should stay localized in nature across
    these areas. The Slight risk was cut back over these areas.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024 - 12Z Wed May 01 2024

    ...A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE PLAINS INTO THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND OVER PORTIONS OF THE
    NORTHEAST...

    ...Northeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained across portions of northeast PA
    northward into NY and VT. Guidance indicates the presence of a
    stationary front across this region on Tuesday, which will likely
    help enhance lower level convergence. This combined with an
    approaching mid level shortwave and weak surface low should be
    enough to kick off convective development. Instability in excess
    of 1000 j/kg is probable over portions of PA and NY, although a bit
    less certain over VT. PWs are forecast to be quite high for late
    April, with values from the ECMWF around 1.25" (approaching
    climatological 99th percentile). Given the ingredients in place,
    it seems plausible that at least an isolated flash flood risk could
    evolve.

    ...Plains and MS Valley...
    A broad Marginal risk extends from north central TX north into the
    Upper Midwest. The northern portion of this risk over IA and MN/WI
    will see the strongest forcing as a low pressure and ample
    mid/upper level lift move across. This will be a progressive
    system, which suggests convection will be moving quick enough to
    prevent a higher flash flood threat. However do see enough
    instability and moisture to support briefly heavy rates, which
    could cause some localized urban flooding and/or isolated flash
    flood issues where ground conditions are more sensitive from recent
    rainfall.

    Further south the front is expected to become stationary over KS.
    This could result in a training/backbuilding convective risk,
    although large scale forcing does look pretty weak. Nonetheless,
    the presence of the stalling front and increasing low level flow
    into this boundary does suggest at least some flash flood risk
    could evolve.

    Forcing is weaker further south into OK and TX. However there will
    be a well defined dryline in the vicinity, and there are
    indications in the models that at least isolated convection could
    develop along this feature. Model QPFs would not support a flash
    flood risk, however global guidance often under forecasts dryline
    QPF anyways. Not thinking we will see great convective coverage,
    but given some of this area will be saturated from recent heavy
    rainfall, thought a Marginal risk was warranted.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-3hcnNSHCClUWLFFnRWWaYEfGa_mCN2YfePniqHfVMVb= 7hNcATVKJNvR18fulshQlaKt3wwr4H2lrUeY76SvcuN8KKo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-3hcnNSHCClUWLFFnRWWaYEfGa_mCN2YfePniqHfVMVb= 7hNcATVKJNvR18fulshQlaKt3wwr4H2lrUeY76SvUNEHox0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-3hcnNSHCClUWLFFnRWWaYEfGa_mCN2YfePniqHfVMVb= 7hNcATVKJNvR18fulshQlaKt3wwr4H2lrUeY76SvSBiBU7o$=20

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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...CORRECTED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1229 PM EDT Sun Apr 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Apr 28 2024 - 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS EASTERN PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER AND MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI
    VALLEY...

    ...16Z update...

    15Z radar imagery and surface observations showed a broad area of
    stratiform rain with weakening embedded convection from central=20
    AR into east-central TX. There is good agreement in the 12Z hires=20
    model suite for redevelopment/reintensification of thunderstorms=20
    between 18-00Z this evening. It is still a bit unclear if remnant=20
    outflow will help to initiate storms and/or the dryline farther=20
    west in central TX. Either way, a broad region of thunderstorms=20
    aligned from NNE to SSW from eastern OK/western AR into eastern TX
    appears likely. Within this area of thunderstorms will likely be=20
    portions that align with the steering flow supporting training.=20
    Current thinking is there could be a bi-modal distribution of=20
    heavy rain, first across portions of eastern TX into western LA=20
    and far southern AR where inflow/instability should be maximized.=20
    This is in line with the 12Z HRRR, ARW, ARW2 and FV3. A second=20
    area farther north is possible from far eastern OK into southern=20
    MO/northern AR where synoptic scale lift will be greatest, with a=20
    relative minimum in precipitation over central AR. Confidence for=20
    a Moderate is still not there but perhaps a late update to=20
    Moderate is possible as the convective situation becomes clearer=20
    later this afternoon.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    Convection will be ongoing at 12z this morning across portions of=20
    eastern OK and TX, into western AR/MO. Still looking like activity=20
    will be progressing off to the east at a greater clip by this time,
    and the overall convective intensity should also be on a gradual=20
    downward trend. Thus, while some lingering flash flood risk into=20
    this morning is likely over these areas, the risk should be on a=20
    decreasing trend.

    By this afternoon expect to see additional convective development
    along the front/dryline across TX into eastern OK, with this
    activity pushing eastward into AR and southern MO by this evening.
    This will be supported by strong and persistent upper level
    divergence, and increasing 850mb moisture transport/convergence
    into the front/dryline. The 850mb moisture transport axis is a bit
    more progressive compared to Saturday, which combined with cold
    pool generation from the organized convection, should result in an
    eastward propagation of convection. Maybe just enough of an
    eastward motion to prevent a more widespread flash flood event.
    However, with the orientation of convection likely to match mean
    steering flow from the southwest at times...there will still likely
    be some brief training of cells. This will support rainfall rates
    as high as 1-3"/hr at times, and do expect we will at least see
    isolated to scattered flash flooding over a fairly large swath from
    eastern TX into southern MO.

    HREF EAS probabilities of exceeding 2" get as high as 40-70% over
    the area, but 3" EAS probabilities drop to 15-30%. Meanwhile
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3" are over 50% over a
    large area, but 5" probabilities drop more into the 15-30% range.
    With EAS probabilities more indicative of QPF coverage, and
    neighborhood probabilities higher end maximum potential...this all
    suggests that areal averaged rainfall will tend to stay in the
    1-3" range...with localized swaths of 3-5" likely as well. However
    5"+ totals are a bit more uncertain...and while I'm sure we will
    see a swath or two of over 5" of rain, exactly where remains
    unclear. Overall would like to have seen a more concentrated and
    higher 5" probabilities to upgrade to a MDT risk. From a hydrology
    perspective, soil saturation and streamflows are elevated over
    some of this area, and not as much of other locations. Thus not
    quite enough sensitivity to justify using this as a reason to do a
    categorical upgrade at this time.

    Thus, overall still think this event remains as a higher end
    Slight risk across eastern TX, western LA, southeast OK, central
    and western AR and southern MO. Both the 00z and 06z HRRR runs have
    been aggressive with convective training and QPF amounts on the
    southwest flank of the area of convection over southeast TX into
    far western LA. This is a typical favorable location for
    training/backbuilding, so the HRRR evolution is possible. However
    the HRRR is further south of the higher HREF probabilities...while
    the experimental NSSL MPAS runs are actually further south of the
    HRRR, and even indicate the possibility ongoing convection in the
    morning persists and propagates fairly quickly through the region.
    Thus think there is still a bit too much uncertainty to go with a
    MDT risk upgrade...although this appears to be the most likely
    location for one...and so will continue to monitor observational
    and model trends today.

    Across the Midwest into Wisconsin and Michigan, a broad Marginal
    Risk remained in place with minor adjustments from continuity. Not
    a much instability here, and convection should generally be moving
    along at a decent clip. Although like further south, some brief
    along track training is possible given steering flow parallel to
    the boundary.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY..

    The convective and heavy rain threat shifts eastward into the lower
    Mississippi Valley on Monday. Thunderstorms with heavy rain are
    likely to be ongoing at the start of the period Monday morning
    across portions of far southeast TX into portions of LA and
    MS...and the main flash flood threat looks to be focused in roughly
    the first 12 hours of the outlook period. Models continue to show
    an impressive combination of mid/upper forcing, low level
    convergence, instability and moisture to support a flash flood risk
    across this region.

    Most indications are that convection will be progressing off to
    the southeast Monday morning given a gradual eastward push of the
    convergence axis and cold pool prorogation. This is expected to
    limit the extent and magnitude of any flash flood risk. However,
    depending on the exact orientation of the convection by this time,
    we could see some backbuilding/training on the southwest flank of
    the MCS. This is most likely over LA, and this could drive a more
    organized flash flood risk. Even without any more pronounced
    training, the expected organized MCS will still be capable of
    hourly rainfall as high as 2-3"/hr given the expected instability
    and moisture in place. This should be enough to drive an isolated
    to scattered flash flood risk, especially over urban areas. It
    should be noted that there is some uncertainty on the timing of
    the MCS, with the 00z and 06z HRRR suggesting the organized
    convection is almost offshore by 12z. While this is a possibility
    (and would require shrinking the Slight risk), this is more of an
    outlier scenario at the moment....with most models supporting the
    MCS more over central LA at 12z.

    Additional convection is likely from MS into portions of the TN and
    OH Valley. This activity will have the support of a compact
    shortwave pushing east across the region. The progressive nature
    of this feature, and more limited instability to work with, both
    suggest any flash flood risk should stay localized in nature across
    these areas. The Slight risk was cut back over these areas.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024 - 12Z Wed May 01 2024

    ...A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE PLAINS INTO THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND OVER PORTIONS OF THE
    NORTHEAST...

    ...Northeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained across portions of northeast PA
    northward into NY and VT. Guidance indicates the presence of a
    stationary front across this region on Tuesday, which will likely
    help enhance lower level convergence. This combined with an
    approaching mid level shortwave and weak surface low should be
    enough to kick off convective development. Instability in excess
    of 1000 j/kg is probable over portions of PA and NY, although a bit
    less certain over VT. PWs are forecast to be quite high for late
    April, with values from the ECMWF around 1.25" (approaching
    climatological 99th percentile). Given the ingredients in place,
    it seems plausible that at least an isolated flash flood risk could
    evolve.

    ...Plains and MS Valley...
    A broad Marginal risk extends from north central TX north into the
    Upper Midwest. The northern portion of this risk over IA and MN/WI
    will see the strongest forcing as a low pressure and ample
    mid/upper level lift move across. This will be a progressive
    system, which suggests convection will be moving quick enough to
    prevent a higher flash flood threat. However do see enough
    instability and moisture to support briefly heavy rates, which
    could cause some localized urban flooding and/or isolated flash
    flood issues where ground conditions are more sensitive from recent
    rainfall.

    Further south the front is expected to become stationary over KS.
    This could result in a training/backbuilding convective risk,
    although large scale forcing does look pretty weak. Nonetheless,
    the presence of the stalling front and increasing low level flow
    into this boundary does suggest at least some flash flood risk
    could evolve.

    Forcing is weaker further south into OK and TX. However there will
    be a well defined dryline in the vicinity, and there are
    indications in the models that at least isolated convection could
    develop along this feature. Model QPFs would not support a flash
    flood risk, however global guidance often under forecasts dryline
    QPF anyways. Not thinking we will see great convective coverage,
    but given some of this area will be saturated from recent heavy
    rainfall, thought a Marginal risk was warranted.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fRG1UDyn5yJEiLg0t7OFVx6m-U8cfxUNj_G2XGQGXAm= C6eS4_7ZDe4Tj9ia9lvn8tEqsza41oX3iRuj4NhajEpTyXU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fRG1UDyn5yJEiLg0t7OFVx6m-U8cfxUNj_G2XGQGXAm= C6eS4_7ZDe4Tj9ia9lvn8tEqsza41oX3iRuj4Nha-83yCEM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fRG1UDyn5yJEiLg0t7OFVx6m-U8cfxUNj_G2XGQGXAm= C6eS4_7ZDe4Tj9ia9lvn8tEqsza41oX3iRuj4NhaDA9swVI$=20

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