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<Esc>:read !binkd -v
Binkd 1.1a-115 (Jan 14 2026 11:24:47/Linux)

If you're using gcc-15 then the default is standard is gnu23 which will throw md5b.c into a complete meltdown. A ver simple fix for this is to run;

$ make CC="gcc -std=gnu17"

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

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<Esc>:read !binkd -v
Binkd 1.1a-115 (Jan 14 2026 11:24:47/Linux)

If you're using gcc-15 then the default is standard is gnu23 which
will throw md5b.c into a complete meltdown. A ver simple fix for
this is to run;

$ make CC="gcc -std=gnu17"

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Quoting from hell.

Consider this reply as confirmation that we're back in sync, penguins and all.

Дуже груви,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

** On Wednesday 14.01.26 - 11:36, Maurice Kinal wrote to All:

Hej All!

<Esc>> :read !binkd -v

Binkd 1.1a-115 (Jan 14 2026 11:24:47/Linux)

If you're using gcc-15 then the default is standard is gnu23 which will throw md5b.c into a complete meltdown. A ver simple fix for this is to run;

$ make CC="gcc -std=gnu17"

so.. that means you are building that source using 2017 C
standard gcc support not the 2023 C standard based gcc
default....

I am a bit surprised "complete meltdown" is the result if you
don't revert, though. That may mean that gcc developers are
getting sloppy, or that there is an inherent code issue that
they are tripping over.

???





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Hej August!

that means you are building that source using 2017 C standard gcc
support not the 2023 C standard based gcc default....

Exactly.

That may mean that gcc developers are getting sloppy,

No it doesn't. Without overthinking this, it means that the binkd source isn't quite up to speed as far as c standards are concerned and that gcc provides backwards compatibilty via the -std switch.

there is an inherent code issue that they are tripping over.

No. It compiles fine by using older c standards without having to revert to an older gcc release. If anything it is the binkd maintainer(s) who are behind the times. On the plus side it is a very easy fix and as luck would have it gnu17 can produce a vastly more capable strftime than gnu99, especially with regards to rfc-3339 formatted output such as below;

<Esc>:read !date --rfc-3339=ns
2026-01-14 18:04:01.153826413+00:00

Overkill for sure but the nanosecond part could be used to ensure uniqueness in a multiuser enviroment.

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Maurice

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Hello Maurice Kinal!

That may mean that gcc developers are getting sloppy,

No it doesn't. Without overthinking this, it means that
the binkd source isn't quite up to speed as far as c
standards are concerned and that gcc provides backwards
compatibilty via the -std switch.

Ah.. just a binkd thing. OK.

<Esc>> :read !date --rfc-3339=ns

2026-01-14 18:04:01.153826413+00:00

Overkill for sure but the nanosecond part could be used to ensure uniqueness in a multiuser enviroment.

Yeah.. you love those nano seconds.

But wrt binkd does it matter? I mean.. isn't binkd the
connection component over the internet, and not for the FTN
messages? Why would connection time need such granularity at
the time of the "call"?

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Hej August!

Ah.. just a binkd thing. OK.

Not just binkd and, as a rule, not as easily fixed.

Yeah.. you love those nano seconds.

We're just friends.

But wrt binkd does it matter?

It doesn't. -std=gnu99 will work just as well.

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Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

Yeah.. you love those nano seconds.

We're just friends.

But wrt binkd does it matter?

It doesn't. -std=gnu99 will work just as well.

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So.. how long does it take 16 penguins to compile binkd?

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Hej August!

how long does it take 16 penguins to compile binkd?

16 penguins took 0.682s while a single penguin took 2.953s. Your milage may vary.

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Maurice

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