• goody-goody two shoes

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.4013 to Benny Pedersen on Wed Oct 6 17:27:29 2021
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    Hey Benny!

    <Esc>:read !lscpu
    Architecture: aarch64
    CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
    Byte Order: Little Endian
    CPU(s): 8
    On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7
    Vendor ID: ARM
    Model name: Cortex-A55
    Model: 0
    Thread(s) per core: 1
    Core(s) per cluster: 4
    Socket(s): -
    Cluster(s): 2
    Stepping: r1p0
    Frequency boost: disabled
    CPU max MHz: 1600.0000
    CPU min MHz: 768.0000
    BogoMIPS: 52.00
    Flags: fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 atomics

    How does the above stack up against the raspi?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Sceal þeodna gehwylc þeawum lifgan.
    Every ruler ought to live virtuously.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (aarch64-unknown-linux-android)
    * Origin: Cheap Canadian Knockoff - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.4013)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Oct 7 03:20:22 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    06 Oct 2021 17:27, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

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    +1

    Hey Benny!

    <Esc>:read !lscpu
    Architecture: aarch64
    CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
    Byte Order: Little Endian
    CPU(s): 8
    On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7
    Vendor ID: ARM
    Model name: Cortex-A55
    Model: 0
    Thread(s) per core: 1
    Core(s) per cluster: 4
    Socket(s): -
    Cluster(s): 2
    Stepping: r1p0
    Frequency boost: disabled
    CPU max MHz: 1600.0000
    CPU min MHz: 768.0000
    BogoMIPS: 52.00
    Flags: fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32
    atomics

    How does the above stack up against the raspi?

    good to use as android phone :=)

    if you add the needed hardware

    http://tux.junc.eu/phpsysinfo/

    night for now


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.14.9-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Oct 7 10:17:57 2021
    -={ 2021-10-07 10:17:57.683662220+00:00 }=-

    Hey Benny!

    good to use as android phone :=)

    It lacks the hardware. I think it might be able to do skype or something along that line. Beats me since I don't require, or would even use, an internet based phone. fidonet is the closest I get to text messaging.

    if you add the needed hardware

    I'll have a looksee later but offhand it I wanted and/or needed a smartphone I'd just buy one. I see no reason to grow my own.

    night for now

    Yes it is.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Blind byþ bam eagum se þe breostum ne starat.
    He is blind in both eyes who does not look with the heart.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Oct 7 14:31:10 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    07 Oct 2021 10:17, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    good to use as android phone :=)

    It lacks the hardware. I think it might be able to do skype or
    something along that line. Beats me since I don't require, or would
    even use, an internet based phone. fidonet is the closest I get to
    text messaging.

    we both waiting for harmony os from huawei

    if you add the needed hardware

    I'll have a looksee later but offhand it I wanted and/or needed a smartphone I'd just buy one. I see no reason to grow my own.

    all needed hardware exists if one like ot build a phone with base hardware on any raspberry pi

    no need to root the os later :=)

    night for now

    Yes it is.

    new kernel 5.14.10


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.14.10-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Oct 7 16:24:23 2021
    -={ 2021-10-07 16:24:23.066804629+00:00 }=-

    Hey Benny!

    all needed hardware exists if one like ot build a phone with
    base hardware on any raspberry pi

    That has nothing to do with an existing 10" tablet already bought and paid for. Not that I know for sure, but there isn't a aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu distribution for it that could be installed to it over the existing aarch64-unknown-linux-android. There was talk of a replacement linux-gnu for certain Samsung devices. As for raspberry pi, there are already many regular linux-gnu based distributions and they supply the regular util-linux pkg with uuidgen and uuidparse. No need for python. :-)

    we both waiting for harmony os from huawei

    We are? This comes as news to me.

    no need to root the os later :=)

    Amen. I'll vote for that especially if it involves substituting "android" for "gnu". As long as gcc and friends are available then who cares about clang/clang++?

    new kernel 5.14.10

    I still have some cleaning up to do before having a look. So far I am sticking with 5.10 kernels.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Hærfest [byð] hreðeadegost, hæleðum bringeð geres wæstmas.
    Harvest is most glory-blessed; it brings to men the year's fruits.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Oct 10 22:34:08 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    07 Oct 2021 16:24, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    new kernel 5.14.10

    now 5.14.11 waiting

    I still have some cleaning up to do before having a look. So far I am sticking with 5.10 kernels.

    good news maybe

    [U] sys-devel/gcc
    Available versions:
    (6.5.0) [M]~6.5.0-r4^t
    (7.5.0) [M]~7.5.0-r2^t
    (8.5.0) 8.5.0-r1^t
    (9.4.0) 9.4.0^t
    (10) 10.3.0-r2^t **10.3.1_pre9999*l^t
    (11) 11.2.0^t **11.2.1_pre9999*l^t
    (12) **12.0.0_pre9999*l^t
    {ada awt cilk custom-cflags +cxx d debug doc fixed-point +fortran gcj go graphite hardened jit libssp lto mpx multilib +nls +nptl objc objc++ objc-gc +openmp +pch pgo +pie +sanitize +ssp systemtap test valgrind vanilla vtv zstd}
    Installed versions: 10.3.0-r2(10)^t(09:58:46 PM 07/20/2021)(cxx nptl openmp pch pie sanitize ssp -ada -d -debug -doc -fixed-point -fortran -go -graphite -hardened -jit -libssp -lto -multilib -nls -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -pgo -systemtap -test -vanilla -vtv -zstd)
    Homepage: https://gcc.gnu.org/
    Description: The GNU Compiler Collection


    so gcc 11.2.0 is now stable on gentoo

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.14.10-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.4013 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Oct 10 16:14:46 2021
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    Hey Benny!

    It doesn't matter which gcc on this tablet. Best I can do is clang. :::sigh:::

    <Esc>:read !clang --version
    clang version 12.0.1
    Target: aarch64-unknown-linux-android24
    Thread model: posix
    InstalledDir: /data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin

    That is the same version I am using (not much) on a real computer.

    If it wasn't for vim I'd ditch this.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Onlær þinum bearne bysne goda, and eac swa some eallum leoda.
    Teach your child by good example, and all people likewise.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (aarch64-unknown-linux-android)
    * Origin: Cheap Canadian Knockoff - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.4013)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Oct 10 23:45:34 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    10 Oct 2021 16:14, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    It doesn't matter which gcc on this tablet. Best I can do is clang. :::sigh:::

    +1

    <Esc>:read !clang --version
    clang version 12.0.1
    Target: aarch64-unknown-linux-android24
    Thread model: posix
    InstalledDir: /data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin

    That is the same version I am using (not much) on a real computer.

    If it wasn't for vim I'd ditch this.

    if one did add husky to pgk build, i would use it in termux, but only if one could easely backup installed data in termux, hope it would come one day

    vim is not that important when you can do pkg install mc, with have mcedit aswell :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.14.10-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Oct 11 10:37:50 2021
    -={ 2021-10-11 10:37:50.904680727+00:00 }=-

    Hey Benny!

    Best I can do is clang. :::sigh:::

    +1

    -1

    if one did add husky to pgk build, i would use it in termux

    The source requires some alterations in order to facillitate clang.

    vim is not that important when you can do pkg install mc, with
    have mcedit aswell

    It will work but why?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Lef mon læces behofað; læran sceal mon geongne monnan.
    A sick man needs a doctor; a young man should be taught.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Oct 14 12:29:56 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    11 Oct 2021 10:37, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Best I can do is clang. :::sigh:::
    +1
    -1

    it needs work

    if one did add husky to pgk build, i would use it in termux
    The source requires some alterations in order to facillitate clang.

    it needs work

    vim is not that important when you can do pkg install mc, with
    have mcedit aswell
    It will work but why?

    it does not require extra pkg install :=)

    Life is good,

    remember it


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.14.12-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Oct 14 13:09:10 2021
    -={ 2021-10-14 13:09:10.451485898+00:00 }=-

    Hey Benny!

    it needs work

    +0

    it needs work

    +0

    It is worth repeating despite it's value.

    it does not require extra pkg install :=)

    Neither does vim. On the 10" tablet vim is far more attractive than mc. Also vim is less DOSie and more UNIXie. Besides without vim, termux isn't worth nearly as much.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ear byþ egle eorla gehwylcun.
    The grave is a horror to every man.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Oct 24 22:18:26 2021
    Hello Maurice!

    14 Oct 2021 13:09, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    it needs work
    +0
    it needs work
    +0

    It is worth repeating despite it's value.

    +1

    it does not require extra pkg install :=)

    Neither does vim. On the 10" tablet vim is far more attractive than
    mc.

    fair, maybe even qemu will run in termux ? :=)

    synology nas have debian chroot, so it can run windows, bla bla :=)

    Also vim is less DOSie and more UNIXie. Besides without vim,
    termux isn't worth nearly as much.

    as a edittor vim is not better then nano, mcedit or joe, but the power in vim is imho external plugins that i have not tryed on any os

    at home i work with qemu now, but one day still have only 24 hours, when can i sleep then ? :)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Sun Oct 24 22:41:25 2021
    -={ 2021-10-24 22:41:25.475336436+00:00 }=-

    Hey Benny!

    fair, maybe even qemu will run in termux ? :=)

    Whoa! That would be surprising.

    synology nas have debian chroot, so it can run windows

    :::shudder:::

    Since day one I have believed that the debian crowd was made up of MS refugees.

    as a edittor vim is not better then nano,

    A simple text editor yes but when the real beefy editting is required then I'd much rather have the big boy toys at my disposal. For me a simple text editor would be busybox's vi which is exactly 39320 bytes for a x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu host.

    at home i work with qemu now,

    I keep meaning to but haven't since about five years ago. I keep finding other distractions like x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu.

    but one day still have only 24 hours,

    +1

    Excellent. That is exactly how many we get here.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Hwilum æfter medo menn mæst geþyrsteð.
    Sometimes men are thirstiest after drinking mead.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)