The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

$ sudo apt-get upgrade -y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
libcamera-apps-lite libcamera-ipa libcamera0.1
linux-headers-rpi-2712 linux-headers-rpi-v8 linux-image-rpi-2712
linux-image-rpi-v8 raspberrypi-sys-mods raspi-utils

Why?

At least three possibilities.

1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never
removes packages or installs new ones.
Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

2) They’ve been explicitly put on hold by the operator.
Use ‘apt-mark showhold’ to check and ‘apt-mark unhold’ to fix.

3) They’re marked upstream for phased updates.
Assuming you’re using standard Debian and RPi OS mirrors, they
aren’t.

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$ sudo apt-get upgrade -y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
libcamera-apps-lite libcamera-ipa libcamera0.1 linux-headers-rpi-2712 linux-headers-rpi-v8 linux-image-rpi-2712
linux-image-rpi-v8 raspberrypi-sys-mods raspi-utils


Why?

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Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never
removes packages or installs new ones.
Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

Someone recently pointed out you can also do

apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

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On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 11:00:34 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it
never
removes packages or installs new ones.
Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

Someone recently pointed out you can also do

apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

Except it doesn't

<quote>
sudo apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
python3-update-manager update-manager-core
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2 not to upgrade.
</quote>

Avpx
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On 08/01/2024 09:00, Anssi Saari wrote:

Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never >> removes packages or installs new ones.
Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

Someone recently pointed out you can also do

apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

That is probably what I need to do.

I am not sure I will...after what happened last time a new kernel was
supposed to be installed!

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