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  • Windows 11 on a Raspi 400...

    From F. W.@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 5 15:10:09 2021
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    :-D

    FW
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 14:30:34 2021
    On 05/07/2021 14:28, F. W. wrote:
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:21 schrieb druck:
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in
    orifices that have no business being there!

    ---druck

    A&E ?

    FW

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-and-e


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    "Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

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  • From F. W.@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 5 15:28:35 2021
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:21 schrieb druck:
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in orifices that have no business being there!

    ---druck

    A&E ?

    FW
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  • From alister@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 13:34:05 2021
    On Mon, 05 Jul 2021 15:10:09 +0200, F. W. wrote:

    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    :-D

    FW

    still an improvement over the majority of PC's out there at the moment
    though.




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  • From druck@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 14:21:11 2021
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in
    orifices that have no business being there!

    ---druck
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  • From F. W.@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 5 15:35:11 2021
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:30 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
    On 05/07/2021 14:28, F. W. wrote:
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:21 schrieb druck:
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in
    orifices that have no business being there!

    ---druck

    A&E ?

    FW

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-and-e



    Ah, thank you.

    FW
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  • From F. W.@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 5 15:36:18 2021
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:34 schrieb alister:

    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    still an improvement over the majority of PC's out there at the
    moment though.

    Some say, we can use W11 on a Pi without cost. But no. It's just a try.

    I would never miss Raspi OS ;-)

    FW
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  • From David Taylor@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 16:03:01 2021
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    :-D

    FW

    Windows-10/32 runs OK on an RPi-400 for non-critical programs. One at a
    time. Try the Twister OS.

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    Cheers,
    David
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  • From ray@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 09:14:12 2021
    On 7/5/21 7:10 AM, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    :-D

    FW

    I've not tried it, but I suspect it would crawl rather than run.
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  • From wibble@bibble.com.invalid@3:770/3 to F. W. on Mon Jul 5 22:44:46 2021
    On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 15:10:09 +0200, "F. W." <me@home.com> wrote:

    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    :-D

    FW

    So does the ARM64 port of Office apparently!

    https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/office_arm64/

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  • From David Taylor@3:770/3 to F. W. on Tue Jul 6 10:00:06 2021
    On 06/07/2021 09:33, F. W. wrote:
    I don't like Windows at all. Only uses it if I have to.

    The charming Raspi 400 declares finally a kind of "one linux for all".
    For example in schools, books or videos.

    Linux finally looks all the same.

    FW

    I choose the programs I want to run first, then the best OS on which to
    run that software. Yes, the Raspberry Pi OS is a good one, and I use it
    but with both the graphical and command-line interfaces.

    If, like me, you have software which requires Windows, it's good to know
    that running on the RPi 400 may be an option.

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    Cheers,
    David
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  • From F. W.@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jul 6 10:33:09 2021
    Am 05.07.2021 um 17:03 schrieb David Taylor:

    Windows-10/32 runs OK on an RPi-400 for non-critical programs. One
    at a time. Try the Twister OS.

    I don't like Windows at all. Only uses it if I have to.

    The charming Raspi 400 declares finally a kind of "one linux for all".
    For example in schools, books or videos.

    Linux finally looks all the same.

    FW
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  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to David Taylor on Tue Jul 6 10:54:57 2021
    On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 10:00:06 +0100, David Taylor wrote:

    On 06/07/2021 09:33, F. W. wrote:
    I don't like Windows at all. Only uses it if I have to.

    The charming Raspi 400 declares finally a kind of "one linux for all".
    For example in schools, books or videos.

    Linux finally looks all the same.

    FW

    I choose the programs I want to run first, then the best OS on which to
    run that software. Yes, the Raspberry Pi OS is a good one, and I use it
    but with both the graphical and command-line interfaces.

    If, like me, you have software which requires Windows, it's good to know
    that running on the RPi 400 may be an option.

    For the more recent members of this group: Its also worth remembering
    that WINE is available for most Linux installations: its an APi
    translation layer over the Linux kernel that allows Windows applications
    to be run without the need to have Windows running in a VM and, unlike
    actual Windows, can still run games etc. that were developed under
    versions of Windows that are no longer supported.

    It's available for Raspbian and supports 32bit binaries. I've only run it
    on X86 Fedora distros, but the implication of having it available for
    Raspbian is that it should run 32 bit X86 binaries on an RPi. It is,
    however, quite a large chunk of code since it probably runs under an
    emulator on ARM systems and consists of a shedload of libraries that
    emulate Windows APIs.


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    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org
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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Jul 6 13:31:36 2021
    On 06-07-2021 12:54, Martin Gregorie wrote:
    For the more recent members of this group: Its also worth remembering
    that WINE is available for most Linux installations: [...]
    It's available for Raspbian and supports 32bit binaries. I've only run it
    on X86 Fedora distros, but the implication of having it available for Raspbian is that it should run 32 bit X86 binaries on an RPi.

    Yes, hence the reference a while ago to TwisterOS which prepackages Wine
    and other stuff for a polished experience. I didn't know either, but as
    they explain on their page https://twisteros.com/about.html it's
    actually Box86 (or QEMU) that translates from x86 to Arm and Wine that interprets the Windows calls.
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  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to A. Dumas on Tue Jul 6 12:54:55 2021
    On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 13:31:36 +0200, A. Dumas wrote:

    On 06-07-2021 12:54, Martin Gregorie wrote:
    For the more recent members of this group: Its also worth remembering
    that WINE is available for most Linux installations: [...]
    It's available for Raspbian and supports 32bit binaries. I've only run
    it on X86 Fedora distros, but the implication of having it available
    for Raspbian is that it should run 32 bit X86 binaries on an RPi.

    Yes, hence the reference a while ago to TwisterOS which prepackages Wine
    and other stuff for a polished experience. I didn't know either, but as
    they explain on their page https://twisteros.com/about.html it's
    actually Box86 (or QEMU) that translates from x86 to Arm and Wine that interprets the Windows calls.

    Yes, I wondered about that: thanks for the confirmation.

    In my (limited) experience QEMU works well on an RPi (512Mb Pi 2B). The
    PICAXE Basic compiler runs in a modified QEMU instance. I've done little
    so far except to verify that it works and that the generated binary is successfully transferred to a PICAXE chip where it runs OK.


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    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org
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  • From Scott Alfter@3:770/3 to F. W. on Wed Jul 7 20:17:45 2021
    In article <sbv1e2$10qd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, F. W. <me@home.com> wrote:
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:21 schrieb druck:
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in
    orifices that have no business being there!

    A&E ?

    Brit-speak for "ER."

    _/_
    / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
    (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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  • From Pancho@3:770/3 to Scott Alfter on Wed Jul 7 21:33:55 2021
    On 07/07/2021 21:17, Scott Alfter wrote:
    In article <sbv1e2$10qd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, F. W. <me@home.com> wrote:
    Am 05.07.2021 um 15:21 schrieb druck:
    On 05/07/2021 14:10, F. W. wrote:
    ...it runs. But is only for the curious and patient ones...

    Like curious ones who become patients in A&E, after putting things in
    orifices that have no business being there!

    A&E ?

    Brit-speak for "ER."

    schrieb druck!!

    Suggests: Notfall und Unfall.

    Although, last time I went was because of a fall, so it seems like a bit
    of a silly language.
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