The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

On 17/03/2021 22:33, NY wrote:

So the gist of what I'm saying is "the Pi is fine for recording to TS files >> and then serving them by SMB to another playing device (Windows), but using >> the Pi as the actual video player is a bit dicey".

That's perfectly plain and a good answer and thank you

NY seemed to cover only the case where HW acceleration is not used at
all. While I haven't tried to use a Pi as a media player recently, even
the original Pi worked fine as video player back almost a decade ago,
for SD MPEG2 and h.264 content. I remember the thing had trouble running
the XBMC (later KODI) GUI, but video and audio were fine. A quick Google
shows the acceleration even in the first model was good enough to handle
even 1080p content although only up to 1080p30.

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On 20/03/2021 13:12, Anssi Saari wrote:

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

On 17/03/2021 22:33, NY wrote:

So the gist of what I'm saying is "the Pi is fine for recording to TS files >>> and then serving them by SMB to another playing device (Windows), but using >>> the Pi as the actual video player is a bit dicey".

That's perfectly plain and a good answer and thank you

NY seemed to cover only the case where HW acceleration is not used at
all. While I haven't tried to use a Pi as a media player recently, even
the original Pi worked fine as video player back almost a decade ago,
for SD MPEG2 and h.264 content. I remember the thing had trouble running
the XBMC (later KODI) GUI, but video and audio were fine. A quick Google shows the acceleration even in the first model was good enough to handle
even 1080p content although only up to 1080p30.

The issue is whether or not Webm/Vorbis encoding can utilise hardware acceleration. I might just get one and try it out

I am sure H264 can, which is my other standard

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In article <s2tkl0$2vu$1@dont-email.me>, Deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote: >Pancho wrote:

I gave up on a rpi4. It should work but good HD video depends on
hardware acceleration and Raspbian distro software compatibility with
acceleration was poor when I tried (i.e. Chrome and VLC didn't support
it fully)

This was the case after rpi4 was released.but later it was fixed. Firefox+ >youtube, mplayer, kplayer works fine

If you just want media try KODI.

I was also after KODI (not for the RPI4, but for the PC, or VM), however it >was not possible to compile.

If running on the Raspberry Pi, there's not much need to compile Kodi as
it's already available through any number of sources: Raspbian, OpenELEC,
OSMC, etc. The same mostly applies to ordinary PCs if you substitute other distros for Raspbian.

That said, I recently replaced a Raspberry Pi 3 that had been running Kodi (most recently on Raspbian, and on OpenELEC before that) with a Rock Pi X running Gentoo Linux, and the latest version of Kodi compiled without issue
on that. (Why the change? I wanted more streaming sources than just
YouTube. The LBRY desktop app (an AppImage built for AMD64 Linux) runs on
it, and unauthorized.tv works in Chromium.) The only remaining snag is that
I think video is still timing out when I leave it for a few hours, and when
I switch the TV back on it's running at 1080i with overscan, not 1366x768
(or whatever) without overscan.

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In article <s30skq$fpc$2@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Saned barely supports *any* properly.

FWIW, it works pretty well with my Canon flatbed scanners: an LiDE 220 at
home and an ancient N670U at work that doesn't work with any version of
Windows newer than XP. Way back in the day, I was using it with HP SCSI flatbed scanners like the ScanJet 3c and 4p, and ISTR one of my newer HP all-in-ones worked for scanning as well as printing.

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In article <s2ud9j$53a$1@dont-email.me>, Deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote: >The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As I understand it, H264 decodes fine, but not webm/vorbis...
trying to get a feel for the support...

I am not sure what formats I have tested. The issue was definitely in
youtube video - could have been format related, but was solved at least >somewhen beginning of last year

Out of the box, the Raspberry Pi (any model) only provides
hardware-accelerated H.264 decoding, and software needs to be written in a particular way to take advantage of it. Spending a few dollars on license
keys enables MPEG-2 and VC-1 (?), but software support for those is likely
to be even sketchier as I suspect few people go to the trouble. VP9 is
always going to be software-decoded, which will likely be iffy on anything
less than a Raspberry Pi 3. (A 64-bit OS might help...but last I checked, Raspbian is still a 32-bit userland.)

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:37:49 GMT, Scott Alfter
<scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> declaimed the following:

less than a Raspberry Pi 3. (A 64-bit OS might help...but last I checked, >Raspbian is still a 32-bit userland.)

https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_arm64/images/

They are basically for testing purposes, not production.


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On 24/03/2021 20:08, Scott Alfter wrote:

In article <s30skq$fpc$2@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Saned barely supports *any* properly.

FWIW, it works pretty well with my Canon flatbed scanners: an LiDE 220 at home and an ancient N670U at work that doesn't work with any version of Windows newer than XP.

I too have had it work with ancient LIDE.

I have had trouble with HPO and Epson both.

Way back in the day, I was using it with HP SCSI
flatbed scanners like the ScanJet 3c and 4p, and ISTR one of my newer HP all-in-ones worked for scanning as well as printing.

FSVO 'worked'

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