I am trying to setup afp file saring from a raspberrypi (2b) running the latest buster. I need to setup password using afppasswd, but afppasswd does not exist on my pi. I installed netatalk using 'sudo apt install netatalk'. And multiple times using '
sudo apt install --reinstall netatalk' to no avail. afppasswd does not exist in any bin/sbin file. In stretch it existed in /usr/local/bin, but buster doesn't have anything in /usr/local. In any event where would the password file be if I ever get
netatalk working?

I need to use uams_randnum.so which needs a password text file.

--Steven

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On 2021-03-28, nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to setup afp file saring from a raspberrypi (2b) running
the latest buster. I need to setup password using afppasswd, but
afppasswd does not exist on my pi. I installed netatalk using 'sudo
apt install netatalk'. And multiple times using 'sudo apt install --reinstall netatalk' to no avail. afppasswd does not exist in any
bin/sbin file. In stretch it existed in /usr/local/bin, but buster

AFAIK nothing from any of the packages should ever getting stalled into /usr/local

So if you had stuff there it wasn't loaded by the package manager apt,
apt-get etc.

"apt-file find afppasswd" on a few debian based systems only seems to find /usr/share/man/ja/man1/afppasswd.1.gz - no executable found.

Have toy tried to do an internet search to find which package it should
be in?

doesn't have anything in /usr/local. In any event where would the
password file be if I ever get netatalk working?

I need to use uams_randnum.so which needs a password text file.

--Steven

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:20:48 -0700, nelso...@gmail.com wrote:

I am trying to setup afp file saring from a raspberrypi (2b) running the latest buster. I need to setup password using afppasswd, but afppasswd
does not exist on my pi. I installed netatalk using 'sudo apt install netatalk'. And multiple times using 'sudo apt install --reinstall
netatalk' to no avail. afppasswd does not exist in any bin/sbin file.
In stretch it existed in /usr/local/bin, but buster doesn't have
anything in /usr/local. In any event where would the password file be
if I ever get netatalk working?

I need to use uams_randnum.so which needs a password text file.

--Steven

Remember that 'man' is your friend - in this case reading "man apt" and
then using "apt search' followed by "apt show" a few times would have
saved you a lot of time and reinstalls which, BTW, seldom do any good but
do waste time and bandwidth.

Did you run an apt search such as "sudo apt search netatalk"
followed by "sudo apt show packagename" to find out about the other
packages it lists?

"apt show" tells you what a package does before you install it and should
list its dependencies, which it doesn't for netatalk. Since it didn't,
the netatalk package description is evidently missing a dependency list
and then telling porkies about it because you've found it has undeclared dependencies. However, if you had run "apt search netatalk" you'd have
seen them.


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nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to setup afp file saring from a raspberrypi (2b) running the latest buster. I need to setup password using afppasswd, but afppasswd
does not exist on my pi. I installed netatalk using 'sudo apt install netatalk'. And multiple times using 'sudo apt install --reinstall
netatalk' to no avail. afppasswd does not exist in any bin/sbin file. In stretch it existed in /usr/local/bin, but buster doesn't have anything in /usr/local. In any event where would the password file be if I ever get netatalk working?

It's not in any package:

<quote>
You have searched for paths that end with afppasswd in suite buster, all sections, and all architectures.

Sorry, your search gave no results
</quote> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=afppasswd&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any

so I suppose you'll have to compile it yourself: http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/
https://github.com/Netatalk/Netatalk

Theo

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:20:31 +0100, Theo wrote:

nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to setup afp file saring from a raspberrypi (2b) running
the latest buster. I need to setup password using afppasswd, but
afppasswd does not exist on my pi. I installed netatalk using 'sudo
apt install netatalk'. And multiple times using 'sudo apt install
--reinstall netatalk' to no avail. afppasswd does not exist in any
bin/sbin file. In stretch it existed in /usr/local/bin, but buster
doesn't have anything in /usr/local. In any event where would the
password file be if I ever get netatalk working?

It's not in any package:

<quote>
You have searched for paths that end with afppasswd in suite buster, all sections, and all architectures.

Sorry, your search gave no results </quote> https://packages.debian.org/search?

searchon=contents&keywords=afppasswd&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any

so I suppose you'll have to compile it yourself: http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/
https://github.com/Netatalk/Netatalk

... and probably to install the two afpfs* packages before doing so.

I suppose its just about reasonable on the part of the netatalk
developers to not have made the dependencies in their package explicit
and usable by apt since its not being distributed via a 3rd party
repository, but I think not naming them in the package description was a
major oversight unless its documented somewhere so obvious that OP should
not have overlooked it.


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nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully compiled netatalk for a raspberrypi? Any hints on what to try? I am using instructions from
"agrlh/install_netatalk_debian.md" for a RaspberryPi TimeCapsule.

No idea about netatalk, but if you want to make a Time Capsule to support modern Macs I suggest using SMB not afp. Apple have deprecated afp - it
still works, but who know for how much longer.

https://mudge.name/2019/11/12/using-a-raspberry-pi-for-time-machine/ https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Better_with_Mac_OS_X

Of course this may not apply if you're targeting vintage Macs.

Theo

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Thanks to all who responded about netatalk on rpi buster. It turns out that I need random number exchange (uams-randnum.so) which isn't supported in the buster repo of netatalk. So I need to build/compile netatalk from debian source. No luck yet. '
sudo checkinstall --fstrans=no' fails at the following line:

ar: /home/pi/netatalk-3.1.12~ds/libatalk/acl/.libs/libacl.a: No such file or directory

It looks like an archive file is missing. libacl.a does exist in /home/pi/netatalk-3.1.12~ds/libatalk/acl/.libs/libacl.lax/libacl.a but is empty/null/0 bytes. [Note the extra directory level libacl.lax] Copying the directory up one level to .libs does
not help and is deleted on the next execution of checkinstall.

Has anyone sucessfully compiled netatalk for a raspberrypi? Any hints on what to try? I am using instructions from "agrlh/install_netatalk_debian.md" for a RaspberryPi TimeCapsule.

--Steven

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On 01/04/2021 16:04, Theo wrote:

nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully compiled netatalk for a raspberrypi? Any hints on
what to try? I am using instructions from
"agrlh/install_netatalk_debian.md" for a RaspberryPi TimeCapsule.

No idea about netatalk, but if you want to make a Time Capsule to support modern Macs I suggest using SMB not afp. Apple have deprecated afp - it still works, but who know for how much longer.

https://mudge.name/2019/11/12/using-a-raspberry-pi-for-time-machine/ https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Better_with_Mac_OS_X

Of course this may not apply if you're targeting vintage Macs.

Theo

And this is why netatalk support is up the creek. I cant remember the
last version of MAC OS to need AFP support but I think it was OS-9.,
OS-10 has always supported SMB.

But I might be wrong there...

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:19:22 AM UTC-5, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/04/2021 16:04, Theo wrote:

nelso...@gmail.com <nelso...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone sucessfully compiled netatalk for a raspberrypi? Any hints on >> what to try? I am using instructions from
"agrlh/install_netatalk_debian.md" for a RaspberryPi TimeCapsule.

No idea about netatalk, but if you want to make a Time Capsule to support modern Macs I suggest using SMB not afp. Apple have deprecated afp - it still works, but who know for how much longer.

https://mudge.name/2019/11/12/using-a-raspberry-pi-for-time-machine/ https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Better_with_Mac_OS_X

Of course this may not apply if you're targeting vintage Macs.

Theo

And this is why netatalk support is up the creek. I cant remember the
last version of MAC OS to need AFP support but I think it was OS-9.,
OS-10 has always supported SMB.

But I might be wrong there...

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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.

I am trying to get afp working with AppleIIGS system 6.0.x. using AFPBridge. This works fine with Netatalk 2, but has issues connecting with Netatalk 3. It needs to use randnum exchange which is enabled in the buster version of netatalk 3. Stretch and
earlier worked. Time capsule support isn't needed. I am retro - Apple2 4ever.

--Steven

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In article <c0bf88c1-2081-46dd-8b9a-e977495a68f3n@googlegroups.com>, nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to get afp working with AppleIIGS system 6.0.x. using
AFPBridge. This works fine with Netatalk 2, but has issues connecting
with Netatalk 3. It needs to use randnum exchange which is enabled in
the buster version of netatalk 3. Stretch and earlier worked. Time
capsule support isn't needed. I am retro - Apple2 4ever.

I have an ebuild for netatalk 2.2.5 in my Gentoo overlay...but checking just now, it looks like it's not building properly. It's complaining about
multiple definitions of some functions.

It worked just fine with my IIGS a few years back, at least. Hopefully I
can figure out what's going sideways and fix it. I see there was also a
2.2.6 release back in 2017; maybe that has fixes for newer systems.

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On 16/11/2024 14:26, David Norris wrote:

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can install netatalk?

It is not available in the repository any longer it would seem.

'no installation candidate'.

Thanks in advance.

David

It was dropped from Debian Bookworm (and hence I assume Raspbian) for
being very insecure.

Can you not use Samba?

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On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:26:58 +0800, David Norris wrote:

It is not available in the repository any longer it would seem.

Could get the source from <https://netatalk.io/>.

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On 16/11/2024 14:26, David Norris wrote:

[This followup was posted to comp.sys.raspberry-pi and a copy was sent to the cited author.]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can install netatalk?

It is not available in the repository any longer it would seem.

Which repository?

'no installation candidate'.

Thanks in advance.

David

Its available as source and in other formats

https://netatalk.io/

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higher education positively fortifies it."

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In article <vhaghm$35op$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote: >Can you not use Samba?

I was going to write that there are computers that speak AFP but not SMB,
but then this happened earlier this year:

https://a2central.com/2024/07/stephen-heumann-smb-fst/

I think that leaves the Apple IIe (with a Workstation Card) as the only
machine left that can handle AFP but can't handle SMB, and there are other options for getting files into and out of one of those (such as a Raspberry
Pi plugged into a serial port).

(There might also be some older Macintosh models that don't handle SMB, but
I have less experience with those.)

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