So, has anybody successfully replaced the batteries in one of these Riello UPS? If so, can you describe how you did it? Almost anything would help, including just knowing what sort of screwdriver is needed for the black screws along the sides at the bottom of the cover black metal cover.
Hopefully, some of you are using Riello UPS and, even more hopefully, a few will be using the small Riello Sentinel Pro 700
Re: Slightly OTT : Riello UPS
By: Martin Gregorie to All on Fri Feb 18 2022 06:06 pm
Hopefully, some of you are using Riello UPS and, even morehopefully, a MG> few will be using the small Riello Sentinel Pro 700
What do you think of the Riello?
I'm in the market for a UPS now and after education. Would want it to protect something like this:
* Broadband connection + Firewall * 1 x Wireless hub * Synology NAS *
Intel NUC (VM server)
Is this feasable in the consumer UPS market? How long would the
batteries typically last?
What do you think of the Riello?
Its well made and has done exactly what I wanted it to up until this point. Its original set of batteries have lasted 7.5 years.
In comp.sys.raspberry-pi Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid>
wrote:
So, has anybody successfully replaced the batteries in one of these
Riello UPS? If so, can you describe how you did it? Almost anything
would help, including just knowing what sort of screwdriver is needed
for the black screws along the sides at the bottom of the cover black
metal cover.
Post a picture?
Posted.
https://www.libelle-systems.com/free/comment/riello_ups/
.. and scroll down a bit: thje top two pics are mainly for the benefit of >Tristan because I thought he might like to see what the small Riello UPS
and its connections look like.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 22:49:26 +0000, Theo wrote:
In comp.sys.raspberry-pi Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid>Posted.
wrote:
So, has anybody successfully replaced the batteries in one of these
Riello UPS? If so, can you describe how you did it? Almost anything
would help, including just knowing what sort of screwdriver is needed
for the black screws along the sides at the bottom of the cover black
metal cover.
Post a picture?
https://www.libelle-systems.com/free/comment/riello_ups/
.. and scroll down a bit: thje top two pics are mainly for the benefit of >Tristan because I thought he might like to see what the small Riello UPS
and its connections look like.
Re: Slightly OTT : Riello UPS
By: Martin Gregorie to All on Fri Feb 18 2022 06:06 pm
Hopefully, some of you are using Riello UPS and, even more
hopefully, a few will be using the small Riello Sentinel Pro 700
What do you think of the Riello?
I'm in the market for a UPS now and after education. Would want it to protect something like this:
* Broadband connection + Firewall
* 1 x Wireless hub
* Synology NAS
* Intel NUC (VM server)
Is this feasable in the consumer UPS market? How long would the
batteries typically last?
The onses you cannot unscrew, type:screwdriver/p-A082505114
9610-CRV
in google Most hardware stores have those I have a set like that:
https://www.kmart.com/gowa-8pcs-set-torx-crv-key-star-wrench-
I use a APC 1000kv Smart product that has a USB connector to the computer connected and using apcups software under Linux which is free software.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:45:55 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
The onses you cannot unscrew, type:
9610-CRV
in google Most hardware stores have those I have a set like that:
https://www.kmart.com/gowa-8pcs-set-torx-crv-key-star-wrench- >screwdriver/p-A082505114
Over here most of the TORX sets give sizes in Tnn numbers. Do you know
what Tnn size 9610-CRV would match?
I've looked at what's available locally and notice that most sets don't
have anything with a lower code than T08 or T09,
According to my Moore & Wright calipers, the distance between opposite
'star vertices' on the Riello screws is 2.26mm, so would that be a T8 TORX >key?
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:54:13 +1200 nospam.Vincent.Coen@f1.n250.z2.fidonet.org (Vincent Coen) wrote:
I use a APC 1000kv Smart product that has a USB connector to the
computer connected and using apcups software under Linux which is
free software.
I had one of those - or one very like it once. One day everything
went off and there was a bad smell from the UPS. On inspection the
batteries had swollen so much that the frame was embedded in the
battery case in places. I'm still contemplating a replacement.
Hello Ahem!
I had one of those - or one very like it once. One day everything
went off and there was a bad smell from the UPS. On inspection the batteries had swollen so much that the frame was embedded in the
battery case in places. I'm still contemplating a replacement.
If it was young why not ask company for a warranty replacement ?
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:41:30 +1200 nospam.Vincent.Coen@f1.n250.z2.fidonet.org (Vincent Coen) wrote:
Hello Ahem!
I had one of those - or one very like it once. One dayeverything
went off and there was a bad smell from the UPS. On inspectionthe
batteries had swollen so much that the frame was embedded in the
battery case in places. I'm still contemplating a replacement.
If it was young why not ask company for a warranty replacement ?
Oh it was far from young, and I should almost certainly have been keeping a weather eye on the batteries and contemplating replacement
for a couple of years or so before it died - but I wasn't it had
become part of the furniture unregarded and trouble free until ...
That should make it T8 if you measured it right?
On the set I have, the lowest is T5 and the highest is T20
Very useful set, see that sort of screws more and more.
I ordered mine online from a big local store, was here next day.
In uk.comp.os.linux Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
That should make it T8 if you measured it right?
On the set I have, the lowest is T5 and the highest is T20 Very useful
set, see that sort of screws more and more.
I ordered mine online from a big local store, was here next day.
It is worth buying a set that includes Torxes rather than just the one, because there may well be other sizes inside.
A set like this is relatively inexpensive and handy to have around: https://www.toolstation.com/draper-security-bit-set/p52910
For the smaller sizes I have this set: https://store.ifixit.co.uk/products/mako-driver-kit-64-precision-bits -
not the cheapest (it was $30 in the US), but very useful when you need
it.
XPost: uk.comp.os.linux
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 22:04:51 +0000, Theo wrote:
In uk.comp.os.linux Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:Noted with thanks - chickened out doing anything today (Saturday)
That should make it T8 if you measured it right?
On the set I have, the lowest is T5 and the highest is T20 Very
useful set, see that sort of screws more and more. I ordered mine
online from a big local store, was here next day.
It is worth buying a set that includes Torxes rather than just the
one, because there may well be other sizes inside.
A set like this is relatively inexpensive and handy to have around:
https://www.toolstation.com/draper-security-bit-set/p52910
For the smaller sizes I have this set:
https://store.ifixit.co.uk/products/mako-driver-kit-64-precision-bit
s - not the cheapest (it was $30 in the US), but very useful when
you need it.
because weather, and helping troubleshoot pages in a Microsoft-based website. Give me Apache any day. But did manage to research TORX
wrench sources. I was quite surprised how few TORX tool sets don't go
below T9.
Could be a thing for your location (NZ ? ) I have from 35 down to 7 but that and previous two are 'very' small, is the screws on the UPS any where near that small ?
Could be a thing for your location (NZ ? ) I have from 35 down to 7 but
that and previous two are 'very' small, is the screws on the UPS any
where near that small ?
If so they really do not want you to get in it :(
May time for a change of brand as there must be a lot of different one's covering 640 - 750Va around from 60 pounds in the UK from the likes of
many as well as Ebay, Amazon etc but be warned they are dumb - don't
talk to a computer in some cases.
IMO this is just excessive caution in case some numpty tries
the swap batteries while the UPS is running
Martin Gregorie wrote:
IMO this is just excessive caution in case some numpty tries the swap
batteries while the UPS is running
Even if shut off, there tend to be some pretty chunky capacitors inside UPSes,
and even if there batteries are /nearly/ dead, but not quite, it only
takes accidentally pressing the "on" button and then you've got 240V
coming from the inverter ...
With all the repairability pressure building up, I think the Riello
approach is becoming untenable if it isn't already there.
Vincent Coen wrote:
Could be a thing for your location (NZ ? ) I have from 35 down to 7
but that and previous two are 'very' small, is the screws on the UPS
any where near that small ?
I have a handy set of 4mm hex drive (i.e. not the usual 1/4" hex) bits
with T4 to T10 plus T15 and T20, also allen heads down to 0.7mm, ph000
etc, amazingly I've never lost a bit from the set.
I live in Harlow (with a silent T) and only some of the TORX sets in
local shops go as small as T8: the rest start at T9.
Hello Andy!
Sunday February 20 2022 15:38, you wrote to me:
Vincent Coen wrote:
Could be a thing for your location (NZ ? ) I have from 35 down to 7
but that and previous two are 'very' small, is the screws on the UPS
any where near that small ?
I have a handy set of 4mm hex drive (i.e. not the usual 1/4" hex) bits
with T4 to T10 plus T15 and T20, also allen heads down to 0.7mm, ph000
etc, amazingly I've never lost a bit from the set.
I cheat - I keep then within the box / case they came in.
I also have some small sized one's with their own handle etc but these are for >micro working - my eye sight at that level how ever is a different
kettle of fish and that with new vari-focal very fancy Essilor varilux lens.
That said it takes me around two hours to read the Daily Telegraph which is a >full sized news paper.
Must try and find a large (12+" square) magnifier - my Dad had one off the >front of a very old b/w TV (going back to the 60's) he used originally for >reading maps when he was studying to become a LICENSED London taxi driver - >long gone (the magnifier I mean) :(
Vincent
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 22:04:51 +0000, Theo wrote:
In uk.comp.os.linux Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:Noted with thanks - chickened out doing anything today (Saturday)
That should make it T8 if you measured it right?
On the set I have, the lowest is T5 and the highest is T20 Very useful
set, see that sort of screws more and more.
I ordered mine online from a big local store, was here next day.
It is worth buying a set that includes Torxes rather than just the one,
because there may well be other sizes inside.
A set like this is relatively inexpensive and handy to have around:
https://www.toolstation.com/draper-security-bit-set/p52910
For the smaller sizes I have this set:
https://store.ifixit.co.uk/products/mako-driver-kit-64-precision-bits -
not the cheapest (it was $30 in the US), but very useful when you need
it.
because weather, and helping troubleshoot pages in a Microsoft-based
website. Give me Apache any day. But did manage to research TORX wrench sources. I was quite surprised how few TORX tool sets don't go below T9.
Today I fought clear of building my gliding club's duty rosters (an all-
week job) for long enough to hit my local B&Q for a TORX key set. Just
tried it on the Riello UPS: T8 fits the case retention screws as
expected. Will get into UPS battery replacement as time permits: no
rush as currently my house server is up and running directly from the
mains.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:24:52 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:
Today I fought clear of building my gliding club's duty rosters (an all-
week job) for long enough to hit my local B&Q for a TORX key set. Just
tried it on the Riello UPS: T8 fits the case retention screws as
expected. Will get into UPS battery replacement as time permits: no
rush as currently my house server is up and running directly from the
mains.
Following up: yesterday I opened the Riello's case: the TORX T8 tool did
the job easily. The internals are neatly laid out with a lengthways metal partition, batteries on one side and a PCB on the other. Slightly to my surprise thare are no large transformers or particularly large capacitors inside.
The old batteries came out easily enough, and show sign of bulging, case deformation, or leakage.
The replacements went in equally easily.
I've run it very briefly with no obvious problems shown.
Further use awaits the purchase of more cabling since I've decided to rearrange the wiring and position of stuff under my computer bench: while doing that I found I need a manins-'extension, a double ended IEC cable
with C13 and C14 connectors.
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