• Re: Palling around with L

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Oct 23 07:55:55 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Saying/wishing stuff doesn't make it true.

    But that's the problem with the Ignorant Elitists - to them, it does make it true.

    The Ignorant Elitists DECIDE what reality is - regardless of any facts or evidence. Then they make decisions, statements, etc. based on their faulty view of reality.

    The problem is that Reality won't conform to their views and they start ranting - usually about how "unfair" everything is. Then they double down on their faulty view of reality.

    It makes me think that they really like the movie Beetlejuice, where repeating something multiple times makes it true.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Oct 23 07:14:46 2024
    Saying/wishing stuff doesn't make it true.

    But that's the problem with the Ignorant Elitists - to them, it does
    make it true.

    The Ignorant Elitists DECIDE what reality is - regardless of any facts or evidence. Then they make decisions, statements, etc. based on their faulty view of reality.

    That's funny! But true. (Regular humans do stuff in the opposite order.)

    The problem is that Reality won't conform to their views and they start ranting - usually about how "unfair" everything is. Then they double
    down on their faulty view of reality.

    The most conversational leftists will make that argument, but most of them don't even get that deep into thoughts. The hassle of too much thinking is the reason why they are leftists in the first place.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 24 07:21:18 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Right, but Liz Cheney has already exposed herself. A more moderate RINO like Lindsey Graham would have been a better choice. But I think this
    will work out fine for us.

    I think so too.

    The hard-left are mad at da Ho for partnering with a "evil conservative". While the undecided are getting verification that Kamala is the wrong choice because she's partnering with Cheney.

    The left try so hard and fail so big. They seem to think that everyone is a moron with a 30 second attention span. Like I said, the Ignorant Elitists seem to have retreated to their bubble and can't see outside anymore.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thu Oct 24 06:11:50 2024
    The hard-left are mad at da Ho for partnering with a "evil
    conservative". While the undecided are getting verification that Kamala is the wrong choice because she's partnering with Cheney.

    The left try so hard and fail so big. They seem to think that everyone
    is a moron with a 30 second attention span. Like I said, the Ignorant Elitists seem to have retreated to their bubble and can't see outside anymore.

    The left is literally trying everything, and I think that's a good sign for us, as long as election integrity is maintained. Let them keep trying these ridiculous stunts.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Oct 24 10:12:00 2024
    Uni-Party? Liz Cheney is an old school conservative.

    She's not... The Democrats, and a lot still do, saw her and her father as war criminals. She may not be a "war criminal" but she is a warmonger. There wasn't a conflict that her and her daddy didn't like or want to start.

    Best as I can tell, she was only in office for the "beginning" (but not
    really) of the Ukraine conflict. She was in no place of power to have
    started any other conflicts.

    She was well known as a conservative, and even voted consistently for Trump's overall agenda. As a congressperson, she was pro-business, pro-national security, and pro-military.

    She has since become "unknown" as a conservative simply because she did not fall in line and support the 1/6 riot and the stolen election narrative
    that went with it, causing Trump to label her "RINO." To Trump Conservatives, he is the sole decision maker as to who is conservative vs. who is not so, since he used his "RINO" dog whistle, she is no longer "conservative."

    By the traditional definition, she was conservative during her time in Congress.

    She has no integrity... She's a whore turning tricks... She's out on the campaign trail for a Marxist... Her party and constituents have rejected her.

    I am not certain how she reconciles this with her tradionally conservative past. That said, if the leader of the one side (and his followers) had
    been as nasty to me as they were to her, I might just be out turning tricks
    in support of the hoe, too, even though I really cannot stand her.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Oct 25 07:27:52 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The left is literally trying everything, and I think that's a good sign for us, as long as election integrity is maintained. Let them keep
    trying these ridiculous stunts.

    Oh, ya. Media credibility is at an all time low. Many of them are on the brink of bankruptcy. Once the Elitists are out of power, the Elitist money (Soros?) keeping them afloat will dry up and they are done.

    The Democrat party is long gone, having been replaced by the Communist party.

    These stunts are just pushing them into the toilet even quicker.

    But election integrity? No, it won't be maintained. They are already cheating and have already set the Narrative for their cheating. 2 weeks to count the votes? Give me a break! Other places can count twice as many paper ballots and still give results the next day. So it's really "2 weeks to try to generate enough fake ballots to steal the election".

    My worry is that the Ho will "win" but the number of votes is twice the number of registered voters - showing that massive fraud happened.

    Here in Michigan, our Tyrant passed something that basically made it illegal to contest the results of the election. It won't pass the courts, but by the time it get through there, the election will be done.

    I still fear hot civil war right now.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Oct 25 07:27:52 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Alan, you have no clue....

    That's the understatement of the decade.

    Her integrity is not intact. She lost her seat and she's about to
    loose her law license

    In order for Liz to have her integrity intact, she needed to have integrity in the first place.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 25 08:58:18 2024
    On 24 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...


    She was well known as a conservative, and even voted consistently for Trump's overall agenda. As a congressperson, she was pro-business, pro-national security, and pro-military.


    If she was pro-national security she would not be backing an open border candidate.


    She has since become "unknown" as a conservative simply because she did not fall in line and support the 1/6 riot and the stolen election narrative that went with it, causing Trump to label her "RINO." To
    Trump Conservatives, he is the sole decision maker as to who is conservative vs. who is not so, since he used his "RINO" dog whistle,
    she is no longer "conservative."


    If she was after the Truth and not after seeking to quell her hatred towards Trump.

    She would have pushed for a legitimate Select Comity. She would have wanted everything to be open and transparent... The deleted most of the evidence and encrypted the files... She was OKay with this...

    There were a lot people concerned about the cause/forces surrounding J6... Most of whom came out of their curiosities unscathed...

    Had Liz been true to her voters. Had she been open and honest and transparent with her involvement in the Select Comity... If she sought the truth for the sake of justice and the country... She'd be seen as a Rock Star... But no, she was a useful idiot.

    https://youtu.be/jHMz1aWs7Ek?si=SlTZEJJlktBMBKgJ

    Here's a video of Tucker speaking at a Turing Point USA / Trump Rally in Georgia. I'm not asking you to hear the whole 20 minutes... but the first minute and a half talks about Liz... Worth the listen... 90 seconds


    I am not certain how she reconciles this with her tradionally
    conservative past. That said, if the leader of the one side (and his followers) had been as nasty to me as they were to her, I might just be out turning tricks in support of the hoe, too, even though I really
    cannot stand her.


    There are several Republicans out there that were elected before Trump was in office and several who kept their seat after and still now. There is a difference between them and Liz... Is that Liz sold out her "Conservative" past to the woke/globalist nonsense.

    If she was true open and honest with her dealings they people would understand. On the other hand evidence has surfaced that she was corrupt in her J6 dealings and a BAR complaint entered against her...

    I hope a legitimate J6 comity is formed to get after the whole truth... and if Liz Cheney is cleared of the rumors that surround her I'll be the first to say sorry...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Oct 25 10:08:12 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    Alan, you have no clue....

    That's the understatement of the decade.


    I try to cut him some slack... He does sound the Kamala's illegitimate child... His responses sound full blown word salad.


    In order for Liz to have her integrity intact, she needed to have integrity in the first place.


    Exactly...She's an other one of those who made millions of dollars while in office ... only making 150K a year.

    How did that happen??

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Oct 25 11:42:52 2024
    The left is literally trying everything, and I think that's a good si for us, as long as election integrity is maintained. Let them keep trying these ridiculous stunts.

    Oh, ya. Media credibility is at an all time low. Many of them are on
    the brink of bankruptcy. Once the Elitists are out of power, the
    Elitist money (Soros?) keeping them afloat will dry up and they are done.

    The trillions of dollars that they stole from us - you don't think they have some it saved up for the battle for more cash?

    But election integrity? No, it won't be maintained. They are already cheating and have already set the Narrative for their cheating. 2 weeks to count the votes? Give me a break! Other places can count twice as many paper ballots and still give results the next day. So it's really
    "2 weeks to try to generate enough fake ballots to steal the election".

    I was being optimistic, but election integrity is obviously a joke.

    A federal judge in VA ruled that "systematically removing illegal immigrants from the voter rolls is illegal," resulting in 1600 of them being re-registered as a result of the ruling.

    One non-citizen vote is too many, and that story alone, if it's true, is enough to deem this election "already rigged."

    Here in Michigan, our Tyrant passed something that basically made it illegal to contest the results of the election. It won't pass the
    courts, but by the time it get through there, the election will be done.

    The psychic/medium that I follow recently gave an update on the election and said something like "Harris will be declared the winner at first, but by January, Trump, the REAL winner, will be declared."

    I still fear hot civil war right now.

    We NEED a civil war. The only thing that I fear about it is that we (the UNION) would have our armies controlled by big fakers like Mike Johnson while they (the CONFEDERACY) would be controlled by billionaires who will actually want to win the battle.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Oct 25 13:31:20 2024
    Exactly...She's an other one of those who made millions of dollars while in office ... only making 150K a year.

    How did that happen??

    Hmm. Are you talking about Trump?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Oct 25 13:37:40 2024
    A federal judge in VA ruled that "systematically removing illegal immigrants from the voter rolls is illegal," resulting in 1600 of them being re-registered as a result of the ruling.

    That sounds like a lot of MAGA logic.

    Do you have a link to this "illegal immigrants being re-registered" story you are telling.

    One non-citizen vote is too many, and that story alone, if it's true, is enough to deem this election "already rigged."

    I am sure you are aware that non-citizens don't/can't vote in federal elections.

    The psychic/medium that I follow recently gave an update on the election and said something like "Harris will be declared the winner at first, but by January, Trump, the REAL winner, will be declared."

    Surely you jest!?

    We NEED a civil war.

    Really!? One wasn't enough?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Fri Oct 25 15:37:00 2024
    Oh, ya. Media credibility is at an all time low. Many of them are on the brink of bankruptcy. Once the Elitists are out of power, the Elitist money (Soros?) keeping them afloat will dry up and they are done.

    You have been saying that for a while, but there seem to be more news
    outlets (at least cable TV outlets) popping up more than closing down.

    NewsNation has launched in the past couple of years, and there is some
    other new "national news" program that one of our local "not big 4" stations
    is now carrying. I believe that one is from Gray Broadcasting.

    I am not aware of any TV outlets that have closed down.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Oct 25 16:12:00 2024
    She was well known as a conservative, and even voted consistently for Trump's overall agenda. As a congressperson, she was pro-business, pro-national security, and pro-military.

    If she was pro-national security she would not be backing an open border candidate.

    Like I said in my post, I am not sure how she reconciles what she is doing
    now, other than Trump was an a$$hole towards her so much that she is no
    longer even conservative (note in my quote above, I said "she was well
    known" as one... past tense).


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Oct 25 20:40:14 2024
    A federal judge in VA ruled that "systematically removing illegal immigr from the voter rolls is illegal," resulting in 1600 of them being re-registered as a result of the ruling.

    That sounds like a lot of MAGA logic.

    Because I'm a MAGA guy, everything I say will always sound like MAGA. But the story comes from Fox News, and from the governor of Virginia.

    Do you have a link to this "illegal immigrants being re-registered"
    story you are telling.

    https://tinyurl.com/3djc6pem

    I am sure you are aware that non-citizens don't/can't vote in federal elections.

    I used to think the same thing until I read about this. Apparently they can, and they do. 1600 people wouldn't register to vote just for the pure excitement of registering.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 26 01:21:12 2024
    Do you have a link to this "illegal immigrants being re-registered"
    story you are telling.

    https://tinyurl.com/3djc6pem

    That is not about illegal immigrants being re-registered.

    Youngkin's executive order violates federal law. That is what this is about.

    I am sure you are aware that non-citizens don't/can't vote in federal
    elections.

    I used to think the same thing until I read about this. Apparently they can, and they do. 1600 people wouldn't register to vote just for the pure excitement of registering.

    That's just so much bolony. It's MAGA talking points.

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  • From Ken Nischan@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 26 08:08:56 2024
    Re: Re: Palling around with L
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Fri Oct 25 2024 08:40 pm

    Do you have a link to this "illegal immigrants being re-registered" story you are telling.

    https://tinyurl.com/3djc6pem

    Did you actually *read* the article though? The judge didn't say that 1600 illegals need to have their voting rights back; the judge said you can't just do del *.sanchez on voter rolls. The removals were systematic, not individual - in other words, nobody did due diligence and just wiped a bunch of people out, potentially unregistering American citizens with valid voting rights.

    I am in 1000% agreement that illegals should not be able to vote, and should be rounded up and deported but this smells of an attempt to slyly remove voters they don't want voting under cover of hunting for illegals.
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Oct 26 06:50:42 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Exactly...She's an other one of those who made millions of dollars while office ... only making 150K a year.

    How did that happen??

    Hmm. Are you talking about Trump?


    Trump's net-worth wend down about a billion while in office...

    This is a known fact Alan...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 26 07:00:20 2024
    On 25 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...


    Like I said in my post, I am not sure how she reconciles what she is
    doing now, other than Trump was an a$$hole towards her so much that she
    is no longer even conservative (note in my quote above, I said "she was well known" as one... past tense).


    Her problem with Trump started when he bad mouthed her daddy and said he was a warmonger and was the cause for the wars in the middle east.

    Her voters voted her out of office and now we'll only have to see her every 4 years or so when Democrats need a fool to cart around claiming how their candidate is awesome.

    Sorry... I didn't see the nuance in your writing style.

    Dick Cheney has a daughter who doesn't like him... I think it's fitting because she's a lesbian.

    :)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Oct 26 13:34:17 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Alan, you have no clue....

    That's the understatement of the decade.

    I try to cut him some slack... He does sound the Kamala's illegitimate child... His responses sound full blown word salad.

    "One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people's motives, make bold assertion, repeat slogans -- anything except reason."
    -- Thomas Sowell

    Exactly...She's an other one of those who made millions of dollars
    while in office ... only making 150K a year.

    How did that happen??

    Exactly.

    And you or I did the same thing, you know that the IRS would be auditing us to find out where that money came from.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 26 13:34:17 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The trillions of dollars that they stole from us - you don't think they have some it saved up for the battle for more cash?

    Probably not. That's why these people are greedy. They don't know how to MAKE money. The only know how to TAKE it. And when they need more, they take more.

    I was being optimistic, but election integrity is obviously a joke.

    And looking back some years, it looks like it's been a joke for quite some time. But in 2020, the curtain was thrown back and we all got to see.

    A federal judge in VA ruled that "systematically removing illegal immigrants from the voter rolls is illegal," resulting in 1600 of them being re-registered as a result of the ruling.

    This is unconstitutional. The States are in charge of their own elections. The Feds can't rule anything like that. Especially when the ruling directly constridicts law.

    One non-citizen vote is too many, and that story alone, if it's true,
    is enough to deem this election "already rigged."

    That was appearant when some areas said "it will take us 2 weeks to count the ballots", even though more "backward" countries when twice as many people can count their ballots in 1 day.

    We all know that what they are saying actually is "it will take us 2 weeks to generate enough fake ballots for our guy to win.". I don't think they understand what will happen if 200% of the eligible voters have voted.

    The psychic/medium that I follow recently gave an update on the
    election and said something like "Harris will be declared the winner at first, but by January, Trump, the REAL winner, will be declared."

    Now that will be interesting to see. I just hope that it's not my area that gets firebombed by the Ignorant Elitists.

    We NEED a civil war.

    We already have one. It's against the Wokies and the Normals. But right now, it's a cold war and the Normals are going through the legal system.

    My fear is what will happen when the Normals realize that the legal system is rigged too and there is no peaceful way to procced.

    The only thing that I fear about it is that we
    (the UNION) would have our armies controlled by big fakers like Mike Johnson while they (the CONFEDERACY) would be controlled by
    billionaires who will actually want to win the battle.

    The Army may get involved, but probably not. I just look at the sides and see which one has the guns - and plenty of target practice - and which side is scared of guns.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Oct 26 12:43:38 2024
    Trump's net-worth wend down about a billion while in office...

    Yes, Trump's and many other around him, net worth also went down when he banrupted his casinos.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Oct 26 14:57:38 2024
    Do you have a link to this "illegal immigrants being re-registered"
    story you are telling.

    https://tinyurl.com/3djc6pem

    That is not about illegal immigrants being re-registered.

    Youngkin's executive order violates federal law. That is what this is about.

    You either didn't care to read it, or you're just denying the truth like usual. It's ok. You do you. Everyone is unique.

    I used to think the same thing until I read about this. Apparently they and they do. 1600 people wouldn't register to vote just for the pure excitement of registering.

    That's just so much bolony. It's MAGA talking points.

    The news does lie a lot, but why would they lie about 1600 votes? That's not very many. If I was going to lie about it, I'd inflate that number.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Oct 26 15:39:24 2024
    A federal judge in VA ruled that "systematically removing illegal immigrants from the voter rolls is illegal," resulting in 1600 of the being re-registered as a result of the ruling.

    This is unconstitutional. The States are in charge of their own elections. The Feds can't rule anything like that. Especially when the ruling directly constridicts law.

    You're probably right. The good thing about this is that they have those 1600 voters identified, so it should be a simple process to disqualify them later, if that's the route they've got to take.

    is enough to deem this election "already rigged."

    That was appearant when some areas said "it will take us 2 weeks to
    count the ballots", even though more "backward" countries when twice as many people can count their ballots in 1 day.

    The RNC chief wants us to fight this problem by bringing more Trump voters to the polls, which sounds good, and is helpful, but he's gotta realize that more extreme measures are needed in order for us to compete with all this cheating.

    We already have one. It's against the Wokies and the Normals. But
    right now, it's a cold war and the Normals are going through the legal system.

    My fear is what will happen when the Normals realize that the legal
    system is rigged too and there is no peaceful way to procced.

    We didn't do enough to fight it in 2020. We just relied on the big dawgs to handle all the cheating, yet still in 2024, they're struggling with issues like dead and/or relocated voters still on their county's voter rolls. (This should have been solved already!)

    The Army may get involved, but probably not. I just look at the sides
    and see which one has the guns - and plenty of target practice - and
    which side is scared of guns.

    Tim Walz already showed us which side knows how to load a rifle and which side don't.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 26 16:03:04 2024
    Youngkin's executive order violates federal law. That is what this is
    about.

    You either didn't care to read it, or you're just denying the truth like usual. It's ok. You do you. Everyone is unique.

    I did read it and others on the subject.

    Although you seem to have missed it the issue you brought up was not about illegal immigrants being re-registered. The issue was that Youngkin's order was illegal and if it did go ahead Americans (not migrants) would have been removed from the voter rolls. That is what republicans do theys days.

    https://tinyurl.com/yatket7v

    The above is a real issue. Illegal immigrants getting re-registered is not.

    That's just so much bolony. It's MAGA talking points.

    The news does lie a lot, but why would they lie about 1600 votes? That's not very many. If I was going to lie about it, I'd inflate that number.

    MAGA and right wing news outlets like fox, newsmax, RSB lie constantly.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Oct 26 20:25:58 2024
    Youngkin's executive order violates federal law. That is what this is >> about.

    You either didn't care to read it, or you're just denying the truth like usual. It's ok. You do you. Everyone is unique.

    I did read it and others on the subject.

    Although you seem to have missed it the issue you brought up was not
    about illegal immigrants being re-registered. The issue was that Youngkin's order was illegal and if it did go ahead Americans (not migrants) would have been removed from the voter rolls. That is what republicans do theys days.

    To me, the issue is that illegal immigrants were re-registered after Youngkin illegally removed the illegal immigrants. But to you, the issue is that Youngkin broke the law. You are a sympathizer of illegal immigrants and I am a sympathizer of law enforcement. No problem.

    The news does lie a lot, but why would they lie about 1600 votes? That's very many. If I was going to lie about it, I'd inflate that number.

    MAGA and right wing news outlets like fox, newsmax, RSB lie constantly.

    There's no such thing as right wing news outlets. There are some that are easy on Trump. Does that make them right-wing? None of those outlets go out and ask the real questions that's on the minds of conservatives.

    I realize that Fox News has published some lies in the past, and that they probably do it every day. However, the governor of Virginia corroborated their story, making it even less likely to be a lie.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 26 21:15:12 2024
    To me, the issue is that illegal immigrants were re-registered after Youngkin illegally removed the illegal immigrants.

    Find me one illegal immagrant that was going to be removed from that list.

    As you know, illegal immigrants don't/can't vote.

    But to you, the issue is that Youngkin broke the law. You are a sympathizer of illegal immigrants

    Nope, I don't think there were any illegal immigrants on that list.

    It was a list of people who didn't have "I am an Ameican citizen" checked on their driver license.

    Does you license have a check box for American citizens?

    and I am a sympathizer of law enforcement. No problem.

    Removing Americans from the voter rolls isn't law enforcement. That is especially so when the law is being broken.

    The news does lie a lot, but why would they lie about 1600 votes? That's >> > very many. If I was going to lie about it, I'd inflate that number.

    MAGA and right wing news outlets like fox, newsmax, RSB lie constantly.

    There's no such thing as right wing news outlets. There are some that are easy on Trump. Does that make them right-wing? None of those outlets go out and ask the real questions that's on the minds of conservatives.

    What!?

    However, the governor of Virginia corroborated their story, making it even less likely to be a lie.

    What!?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Oct 27 07:19:32 2024
    To me, the issue is that illegal immigrants were re-registered after You illegally removed the illegal immigrants.

    Find me one illegal immagrant that was going to be removed from that
    list.

    The article doesn't list the names of the victims.

    My mistake in this is that I parroted something I heard on a news website.

    It was a list of people who didn't have "I am an Ameican citizen"
    checked on their driver license.

    Does you license have a check box for American citizens?

    If someone doesn't check that box, then they shouldn't be allowed to register to vote.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Oct 27 10:15:44 2024
    On 26 Oct 2024, Ron L. said the following...

    Exactly.


    It's why I said it.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Oct 27 10:19:30 2024
    On 26 Oct 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Yes, Trump's and many other around him, net worth also went down when he banrupted his casinos.


    New Jersey casinos are in 1990s...

    The difference between successful people and you. Is that they keep trying after failures...

    He's worth Billions today because he keeps going.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Oct 27 15:43:00 2024
    Dick Cheney has a daughter who doesn't like him... I think it's fitting because
    she's a lesbian.

    Reagan had at least one kid (maybe more) that didn't like him as President, either. Walz supposedly has a brother that doesn't think much of Tim's political career. Guess there is potentially one in every political family.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KEN NISCHAN on Sun Oct 27 15:50:00 2024
    Did you actually *read* the article though? The judge didn't say that 1600 illegals need to have their voting rights back; the judge said you can't just do del *.sanchez on voter rolls. The removals were systematic, not individual
    - in other words, nobody did due diligence and just wiped a bunch of people out, potentially unregistering American citizens with valid voting rights.

    Well that is just a wrong thing to do.

    I am in 1000% agreement that illegals should not be able to vote, and should b
    rounded up and deported but this smells of an attempt to slyly remove voters they don't want voting under cover of hunting for illegals.

    If the article is correct, it does indeed. IMHO, people who are truely
    trying to fix the rolls shouldn't pull/support stunts like that because it
    just makes it more difficult to keep the rolls cleaned up.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Oct 27 19:04:28 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    You're probably right. The good thing about this is that they have
    those 1600 voters identified, so it should be a simple process to disqualify them later, if that's the route they've got to take.

    The problem is the timing. By the time it goes through the courts, the votes would have been counted and certified, making disqualifying them irrelevant.

    The same here in Michigan. Our tyrant passed a "law" (no Congress didn't vote on it) making it "illegal" to contest the election. Blatent violation of the Constitution. But they are banking on the courts not doing anything until after the election is over and done, allowing their cheating to stand.

    The RNC chief wants us to fight this problem by bringing more Trump
    voters to the polls, which sounds good, and is helpful, but he's gotta realize that more extreme measures are needed in order for us to
    compete with all this cheating.

    Exactly.

    We didn't do enough to fight it in 2020.

    We did. We just got stonewalled at every step. "Most secure election in history. So you are just a conspiracy theorist." Charging the electors and putting them in jail. Not prosecuting people who certainly committed election crimes, on video. Not allowing inspection of the voting machines until LONG after the election was certified (and it showed that the voting machine software switched voted - always in favor of the Elitists). And the courts did nothing.

    Tim Walz already showed us which side knows how to load a rifle and
    which side don't.

    If we have a hot civil war, at least it will be a short one.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Oct 27 16:12:00 2024
    It was a list of people who didn't have "I am an Ameican citizen"
    checked on their driver license.

    Does you license have a check box for American citizens?

    If someone doesn't check that box, then they shouldn't be allowed to register to vote.

    Does your drivers license have a checkbox for American Citizens?

    Is that normal in the USA?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Oct 27 23:56:00 2024
    You're probably right. The good thing about this is that they have those 1600 voters identified, so it should be a simple process to disqualify them later, if that's the route they've got to take.

    The problem is the timing. By the time it goes through the courts, the votes would have been counted and certified, making disqualifying them irrelevant.

    If the votes are cast, and if they impact the electoral votes, couldn't the corresponding electoral vote be disqualified also?

    The same here in Michigan. Our tyrant passed a "law" (no Congress
    didn't vote on it) making it "illegal" to contest the election. Blatent violation of the Constitution. But they are banking on the courts not doing anything until after the election is over and done, allowing their cheating to stand.

    Is your state's GOP doing anything about the unfair law? Is there anyone in your state's GOP who is worth contacting about it?

    We didn't do enough to fight it in 2020.

    We did. We just got stonewalled at every step. "Most secure election in history. So you are just a conspiracy theorist." Charging the electors and putting them in jail. Not prosecuting people who certainly
    committed election crimes, on video. Not allowing inspection of the voting machines until LONG after the election was certified (and it
    showed that the voting machine software switched voted - always in favor of the Elitists). And the courts did nothing.

    But we were still somewhat unprepared for the election in 2020. We still have illegal immigrants on voter rolls, deceased voters, voters who moved out of the county, etc. All that stuff should have been cleaned up a long time ago but it's still a mess.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Mon Oct 28 00:07:42 2024
    It was a list of people who didn't have "I am an Ameican citizen"
    checked on their driver license.

    Does you license have a check box for American citizens?

    If someone doesn't check that box, then they shouldn't be allowed to reg to vote.

    Does your drivers license have a checkbox for American Citizens?

    Is that normal in the USA?

    The New York license doesn't have it on the actual driver's license, but I'm pretty sure it's a question on the renewal form.

    I've had licenses in other states but I can't remember.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Oct 28 07:09:52 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    If the votes are cast, and if they impact the electoral votes, couldn't the corresponding electoral vote be disqualified also?

    That's the way is SHOULD be. But we all know that the Elitists don't believe that the law constrains them.

    Is your state's GOP doing anything about the unfair law?

    Yes, but it doesn't matter because it takes time for the courts to handle things and the election will be over by then.

    Is there anyone in your state's GOP who is worth contacting about it?

    No. Our Republicans are just as useless as the rest of them.

    I met our state senator and I didn't really understand the meaning of "milqueoast" until then.

    But we were still somewhat unprepared for the election in 2020. We
    still have illegal immigrants on voter rolls, deceased voters, voters
    who moved out of the county, etc. All that stuff should have been
    cleaned up a long time ago but it's still a mess.

    Yes, it should. And, at least here in Michigan, we have filed suits against the Sec of State (who is in charge of those things) to perform her duty. But the Deep State plants in the courts have derailed things.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Mon Oct 28 09:12:10 2024
    On 27 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...


    Reagan had at least one kid (maybe more) that didn't like him as President, either. Walz supposedly has a brother that doesn't think
    much of Tim's political career. Guess there is potentially one in every political family.


    We have a Marxist Lesbian living in our basement.... She's almost 30... Every time Trump has a rally I turn the TV up so that the neighbors can hear.

    And about Dick's daughter not liking him... I was trying to be funny with the fact that, that one anyways, is a lesbian...

    I still think its funny and I laughed for the both of us.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Oct 28 13:40:28 2024
    Is your state's GOP doing anything about the unfair law?

    Yes, but it doesn't matter because it takes time for the courts to handle things and the election will be over by then.

    That's a pleasant surprise. NY's GOP minority never puts up a fight for anything.

    I met our state senator and I didn't really understand the meaning of "milqueoast" until then.

    Someone told me that the state senate and state assembly candidates get paid like $200k by the taxpayers just for running. I'm not sure how true it is, but that would explain why many of these minority GOP ever run for office in the first place. ($200k can buy a lot of crack.)

    I met my district's candidate for state senate a few days ago. He seems cool. I think he'll win at least, but I wonder if he will do more than just get elected.

    who moved out of the county, etc. All that stuff should have been cleaned up a long time ago but it's still a mess.

    Yes, it should. And, at least here in Michigan, we have filed suits against the Sec of State (who is in charge of those things) to perform
    her duty. But the Deep State plants in the courts have derailed things.

    Look at all these fancy job titles that we have for people; just so that they can get a paycheck, do nothing for us, and ignore their own laws.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB Joe on Mon Oct 28 18:36:17 2024
    We have a Marxist Lesbian living in our basement.... She's almost 30... Every time Trump has a rally I turn the TV up so that the neighbors can hear.

    And about Dick's daughter not liking him... I was trying to be funny with the fact that, that one anyways, is a lesbian...

    I still think its funny and I laughed for the both of us.

    I forgot that this means you and Dick have at least one thing in common. ;)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 29 07:11:02 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Someone told me that the state senate and state assembly candidates get paid like $200k by the taxpayers just for running. I'm not sure how
    true it is, but that would explain why many of these minority GOP ever
    run for office in the first place. ($200k can buy a lot of crack.)

    I think they get that for their campaign. I haven't researched it, but I remember reading that candidates can qualify for gov't funding to run their campaign.

    But the question is "why?"

    Look at all these fancy job titles that we have for people; just so
    that they can get a paycheck, do nothing for us, and ignore their own laws.

    And they wonder why people are pissed at them.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Oct 29 07:18:02 2024
    On 28 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    I forgot that this means you and Dick have at least one thing in common. ;)


    HAHAHAHA... Funny AF

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Tue Oct 29 08:46:00 2024
    Someone told me that the state senate and state assembly candidates get paid like $200k by the taxpayers just for running. I'm not sure how
    true it is, but that would explain why many of these minority GOP ever run for office in the first place. ($200k can buy a lot of crack.)

    I think they get that for their campaign. I haven't researched it, but I remember reading that candidates can qualify for gov't funding to run their campaign.

    But the question is "why?"

    Back in the day, when many of the folks who were running were not career politicians and/or already rich, it might have made sense. Got to question
    it now, though, especially since in some areas you only qualify for such
    things if you are running as a Democrat or Republican.


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