• Cuomo Altered Information

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Fri Sep 20 10:30:00 2024
    http://youtube.com/post/UgkxiWGj5r9AYTVI9ZvPcTD2w8sx9TVp6azE?si=eahKwNizxeeLuNd0

    SOURCE: NY Post via YouTube

    Cuomo personally altered report that lowballed COVID nursing-home deaths, emails show -- contradicting his claim to Congress

    "Former (NY) Gov. Andrew Cuomo personally altered a state review that lowballed the nursing home COVID-19 death count, emails detailed in a new report show-- a revelation that directly contradicts his claims he had nothing to do with it.

    "Emails and congressional documents undercut Cuomo's defiant assertion during a summer congressional grilling that he never saw or even had any memory of the state Health Department report, the New York Times first reported.

    "'Governor's edits are attached for your review,' Cuomo's assistant wrote to the then-governor's senior staff in June 2020, the Times report states.

    "Cuomo wasn't sworn in under oath for his closed-door testimony this year, but was told that he could face criminal prosecution if he knowingly made false statements, according to a transcript.

    "Family members of seniors who died in nursing-homes saw the emails as proof that Cuomo not only made decisions that killed their loved ones, but also lied about it."

    I wonder if any other governors, who've claimed not to be aware of what was going on in their states, were careless enough to leave things laying
    around to be found like this?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 20 10:46:28 2024
    "Family members of seniors who died in nursing-homes saw the emails as proof that Cuomo not only made decisions that killed their loved ones,
    but also lied about it."

    I wonder if any other governors, who've claimed not to be aware of what was going on in their states, were careless enough to leave things laying around to be found like this?

    What can happen to him? Can the union protect him from this?

    And does this mean that other state employees covered for him?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Sep 21 10:05:00 2024
    "Family members of seniors who died in nursing-homes saw the emails as proof that Cuomo not only made decisions that killed their loved ones, but also lied about it."

    I wonder if any other governors, who've claimed not to be aware of what was going on in their states, were careless enough to leave things laying
    around to be found like this?

    What can happen to him? Can the union protect him from this?

    As the article stated, he was not under oath but was cautioned that being untruthful could have consequences.

    Which union?

    And does this mean that other state employees covered for him?

    Maybe. I don't know that any others testified that he was not aware.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Sep 21 15:54:44 2024
    "Family members of seniors who died in nursing-homes saw the emails proof that Cuomo not only made decisions that killed their loved on but also lied about it."

    I wonder if any other governors, who've claimed not to be aware of was going on in their states, were careless enough to leave things laying
    around to be found like this?

    What can happen to him? Can the union protect him from this?

    As the article stated, he was not under oath but was cautioned that being untruthful could have consequences.

    Andrew Cuomo expects to someday get back into politics :)

    Which union?

    State employees (most of them) are required to join unions. Some of them have a choice of which union they join. I'm assuming the governor of NY is required to join a union. So now I'm left wondering if the union can help Cuomo out of his legal problems.

    And does this mean that other state employees covered for him?

    Maybe. I don't know that any others testified that he was not aware.

    My spidy-senses tell me that Kathy Hochul, who was lieutenant governor at the time, didn't try to stop him.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Sep 22 09:11:00 2024
    As the article stated, he was not under oath but was cautioned that being untruthful could have consequences.

    Andrew Cuomo expects to someday get back into politics :)

    He might have trouble now.

    Which union?

    State employees (most of them) are required to join unions. Some of them have choice of which union they join. I'm assuming the governor of NY is required t
    join a union. So now I'm left wondering if the union can help Cuomo out of his
    legal problems.

    Here, they tried to unionize the regular rank-and-file workers > 20 years
    ago. It didn't work out. IIRC, all of the non-merit (appointed) employees
    and above (i.e. the Governor) would have been excluded from the Union as,
    in theory, those would be the "managers" that the Union was supposed to
    protect the employees from.

    That didn't take so only the state police and teachers are unionized.

    And does this mean that other state employees covered for him?

    Maybe. I don't know that any others testified that he was not aware.

    My spidy-senses tell me that Kathy Hochul, who was lieutenant governor at the time, didn't try to stop him.

    Maybe not. It depends on how much in the loop Cuomo kept her. Here, the
    Lt. Governors are usually not really in the loop on most things. They have
    a few projects which are theirs. At least two recent Governors have kept
    their Lt. Governors so far out of the loop that, when the Lt. resigned early, the Governor didn't even bother replacing them. One of the Govs went two or three years with a vacant Lt. Governor's seat.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 24 07:36:10 2024
    join a union. So now I'm left wondering if the union can help Cuomo out his
    legal problems.

    Here, they tried to unionize the regular rank-and-file workers > 20 years ago. It didn't work out. IIRC, all of the non-merit (appointed) employees and above (i.e. the Governor) would have been excluded from
    the Union as, in theory, those would be the "managers" that the Union
    was supposed to protect the employees from.

    I can't find information about it for my state, so I'll assume that governors of this state are not unionized either. But after reading what you said about appointed employees and above, I'll also assume that the unions will defend a Democrat governor anyway, one way or another, because they (allegedly) make regular donations to the DNC (so why not go out on a limb for a slimeball like Cuomo?)

    My spidy-senses tell me that Kathy Hochul, who was lieutenant governor a time, didn't try to stop him.

    Maybe not. It depends on how much in the loop Cuomo kept her. Here, the Lt. Governors are usually not really in the loop on most things. They have a few projects which are theirs. At least two recent Governors
    have kept their Lt. Governors so far out of the loop that, when the Lt. resigned early, the Governor didn't even bother replacing them. One of the Govs went two or three years with a vacant Lt. Governor's seat.

    Ok, so she might not be part of the nursing home massacre. But if prosecutors in my state have any decency, they will make the possibility of accomplices part of their investigation. I don't know Cuomo or anything, but I have doubts that he would mastermind that by himself.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Sep 25 09:39:00 2024
    Ok, so she might not be part of the nursing home massacre. But if prosecutors >in my state have any decency, they will make the possibility of accomplices >part of their investigation. I don't know Cuomo or anything, but I have doubts >that he would mastermind that by himself.

    As it happened in other usually D run states, too, I would speculate it was possible that the idea originated above state level and the potential consequences of the idea were not well thought out.


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