• Re: Teamsters won't Endor

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 20 07:24:42 2024
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    Teamsters won't endorse in presidential race after releasing internal polling showing most
    members support Trump

    There are other unions in New York state (aside from Teamsters) that likely have a majority of their members supporting Trump. But union members have a lot to lose by publicly endorsing the wrong candidate;
    it equates to talking about politics in the workplace. (And union
    meetings are just like work meetings.)

    But what that really shows is the large gap between what the union leadership wants and what the rank-and-file want. Which highlights the fact that unions are for the unions - not for the workers.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Sep 20 06:12:36 2024
    There are other unions in New York state (aside from Teamsters) that likely have a majority of their members supporting Trump. But union members have a lot to lose by publicly endorsing the wrong candidate; it equates to talking about politics in the workplace. (And union meetings are just like work meetings.)

    But what that really shows is the large gap between what the union leadership wants and what the rank-and-file want. Which highlights the fact that unions are for the unions - not for the workers.

    Yes. Hopefully this news about the Teamsters union will open some eyes.

    My dad is a Teamsters retiree and he's 100% MAGA just like me.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Sep 20 10:41:00 2024
    Teamsters won't endorse in presidential race after releasing internal polling showing most members support Trump

    There are other unions in New York state (aside from Teamsters) that likely >have a majority of their members supporting Trump. But union members have a lot
    to lose by publicly endorsing the wrong candidate; it equates to talking about >politics in the workplace. (And union meetings are just like work meetings.)

    It probably opens them up to reprisals from other members that won't be
    covered by "hostile work environment" rules.

    I did see a few other places where Teamsters locals are trying to rally and endorse Harris on their own. It would be interesting if their local members will back that or not.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Fri Sep 20 10:32:00 2024
    But what that really shows is the large gap between what the union leadership wants and what the rank-and-file want. Which highlights the fact that unions are for the unions - not for the workers.

    In the case of the Teamsters, the leader who is quoted in the article apparently spoke at the GOP convention this Summer but not at the DNC.
    However, they have declined to endorse Trump because, like Harris, he
    wouldn't make the promises that the Union wanted to hear.

    That makes me not so sure what their union leadership wanted.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 20 10:42:24 2024
    There are other unions in New York state (aside from Teamsters) that like >have a majority of their members supporting Trump. But union members have >lot
    to lose by publicly endorsing the wrong candidate; it equates to talking >politics in the workplace. (And union meetings are just like work meeting

    It probably opens them up to reprisals from other members that won't be covered by "hostile work environment" rules.

    I did see a few other places where Teamsters locals are trying to rally and endorse Harris on their own. It would be interesting if their local members will back that or not.

    That's fine for them, because unionized leftists have nothing to lose by endorsing Kamala. Their bosses won't mind. Those workers would probably get bonus pay for endorsing her.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 20 10:48:56 2024
    In the case of the Teamsters, the leader who is quoted in the article apparently spoke at the GOP convention this Summer but not at the DNC. However, they have declined to endorse Trump because, like Harris, he wouldn't make the promises that the Union wanted to hear.

    It is odd that Harris isn't endorsed by the Teamsters Union. When lefties need to rely on each other, it's usually all-hands-on-deck.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Sep 21 10:06:00 2024
    In the case of the Teamsters, the leader who is quoted in the article apparently spoke at the GOP convention this Summer but not at the DNC. However, they have declined to endorse Trump because, like Harris, he wouldn't make the promises that the Union wanted to hear.

    It is odd that Harris isn't endorsed by the Teamsters Union. When lefties need >to rely on each other, it's usually all-hands-on-deck.

    Having worked in a facility that employed Teamsters, while I cannot speak
    for their leadership, I think it would be in error to assume the members are all leftists.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Sep 21 16:16:37 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes. Hopefully this news about the Teamsters union will open some eyes.

    Really I don't think it will.

    The people who can't change their minds will ignore this.
    The people who can change their minds have long realized that the Democrats are **not** the party of the people and never have been.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Sep 21 15:56:34 2024
    It is odd that Harris isn't endorsed by the Teamsters Union. When lefties >to rely on each other, it's usually all-hands-on-deck.

    Having worked in a facility that employed Teamsters, while I cannot speak for their leadership, I think it would be in error to assume the members are all leftists.

    I'm not sure if Teamsters donates to the DNC, but it's my understanding that unions typically do. Some union members (definitely) are hiding their political beliefs at work because of new york state's leftist-majority government.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Sep 21 21:21:06 2024
    Yes. Hopefully this news about the Teamsters union will open some eye

    Really I don't think it will.

    The people who can't change their minds will ignore this.

    You're right about that. It's not an issue to leftists, unless the media says it is.

    The people who can change their minds have long realized that the Democrats are **not** the party of the people and never have been.

    Yes, being able to change your mind about things is a cool thing that the Democrats should let their people try sometime, instead of telling them stuff, they should ask them stuff.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 22 09:27:14 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes, being able to change your mind about things is a cool thing that
    the Democrats should let their people try sometime, instead of telling them stuff, they should ask them stuff.

    But the Democrat^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HSocialist party doesn't want people to think for themselves. Remember that these are people who believe that they are the smartest and the rest of us can't be trusted to make good decisions.

    That's another reason this next election is so important. If we were dealing with a bunch of people who just wanted to live their lives the way they want and let everyone alone, it wouldn't be much of a problem. But they can't. They have to dictate how the rest of need to live our lives - for our own good (but mainly for the good of the Elitists).


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Sep 24 02:09:18 2024
    Yes, being able to change your mind about things is a cool thing that the Democrats should let their people try sometime, instead of tellin them stuff, they should ask them stuff.

    But the Democrat^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HSocialist party doesn't want people to think for themselves. Remember that these are people who believe that they are the smartest and the rest of us can't be trusted to make good decisions.

    I get it. The Democrat party can't hold a primary because that equates to asking their followers questions (not the sexy kind of questions either.)

    We really can't be trusted to make "good" decisions because studies have
    shown that people making their own decisions is unprofitable for the left.

    That's another reason this next election is so important. If we were dealing with a bunch of people who just wanted to live their lives the
    way they want and let everyone alone, it wouldn't be much of a problem. But they can't. They have to dictate how the rest of need to live our lives - for our own good (but mainly for the good of the Elitists).

    I would respect Democrats a lot more if they would stop being so controlling. Their decision to import 30 million undocumented immigrants was very unfair to the people who don't want to be murdered, robbed, or raped. The people who are asking for that stuff have the Harris/Walz signs in their yards (a small population of Americans.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Sep 24 07:28:44 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I get it. The Democrat party can't hold a primary because that equates
    to asking their followers questions (not the sexy kind of questions either.)

    Of course. Remember what they did to Bernie back in 2015. He was going to get the nomination, but the "super delegates", selected Hillary.

    We really can't be trusted to make "good" decisions because studies
    have shown that people making their own decisions is unprofitable for
    the left.

    Rather people will make decisions in their best interests, not the best interests of the Elitists.

    I would respect Democrats a lot more if they would stop being so controlling.

    But that's who they are now. Socialism always devolves into despotism.

    Their decision to import 30 million undocumented
    immigrants was very unfair to the people who don't want to be murdered, robbed, or raped.

    But they don't care about any of those people - us citizens or the illegals.

    The people who are asking for that stuff have the
    Harris/Walz signs in their yards (a small population of Americans.)

    Very small.

    I believe that most people don't show Trump signs because they know how unhinged and unstable the Left is and don't want their house firebombed.

    But the Harris/Walz sign people don't seem to realize what will happen if the cheating happens again.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Sep 24 08:17:02 2024
    I get it. The Democrat party can't hold a primary because that equate to asking their followers questions (not the sexy kind of questions either.)

    Of course. Remember what they did to Bernie back in 2015. He was going to get the nomination, but the "super delegates", selected Hillary.

    Bernie probably isn't as much of a team player as Kamala is. Besides, it's probably a good thing that the elite chose not to let the leftists vote in a primary, because they like having their mind made up for them. It saved them time and gas money.

    Of course. Remember what they did to Bernie back in 2015. He was going to get the nomination, but the "super delegates", selected Hillary.

    I didn't know about that! That's funny though. So the Democrats haven't had a fair presidential primary since probably 2008 (then again, probably not even in 2008 either!)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 25 07:49:24 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Bernie probably isn't as much of a team player as Kamala is.

    Kamala isn't a player at all. She's more of a mascot. In my opinion, she more like Zaphod Beelebrox - draw attention from who ACTUALLY wields the power.

    Besides,
    it's probably a good thing that the elite chose not to let the leftists vote in a primary, because they like having their mind made up for
    them. It saved them time and gas money.

    Probably. But then that prohibits them from claiming to "save Democracy".

    I didn't know about that! That's funny though. So the Democrats haven't had a fair presidential primary since probably 2008 (then again,
    probably not even in 2008 either!)

    One of the best things that came out of Trump's first term was the tearing away of the curtain and exposing what was going on, and probably had been going on for a long time.

    The Elitists can't hide it and explain it away anymore. Anyone who wants to can see the corruption and treason going on.


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