Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

These "artists" care so much about who plays their songs and where, but only if it's Trump. They don't want their songs played without
permission "at any venues," but what does that mean? I can't play their song at my kid's graduation party, because it will be held "at a
venue?" And I have to call Dave Grohl up on the phone first, to ask him for permission?

I find their reaction both funny and pathetic.

First, most of those "artists" don't own their works. The recording labels do.
So the "artists" don't have any say in the matter and only a copyright holder can sue for infringement.

Second, ASCAP was set up for people (mostly radio stations) to not have to clear permission for every song played. Most of these events have an agreement with ASCAP and, so, do not need permission. They just have to pay the very low fee per song to play them.


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First, most of those "artists" don't own their works. The recording labels do. So the "artists" don't have any say in the matter and only a copyright holder can sue for infringement.

I think it's just the Isaac Hayes family who is actually suing. But Dave Grohl is just trying to be a cheerleader for the left by saying "All proceeds from that song will go to the Harris campaign."

I don't believe that any of these "artists" have a case of copyright infringement though, because the Trump campaign isn't even trying to make money off the music (the Trump rallies are free admission.)

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Several elitist musicians are complaining about the Trump campaign using their
music on social media posts and for playing it at his rallies.

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This is beyond TDS, this is some kind of elitism disease. Trump's not making bootleg recordings, or selling ripped CDs, he's just playing songs on a stereo
system. If he can't do it then nobody should be able to either.

This has been going on for years, though. Springsteen was "upset" several years ago because lots of people were using "Born in the USA" at events as
if it was a patriotic, and not a protest, song.

The Eagles apparently go after anyone who uses their music in a video on
YT. There is someone on the FTN networks who ran into that after the
played part of one in one of their videos. Someone else I follow had to
edit the sound in one of his videos because the Eagles were playing in the background on the radio during part of it.

In come cases, it is political -- i.e. artist likes candidate A but
candidate B is the one using their music. There are supposedly a lot of artists that do like Trump so he should probably stick to using their music.

If you are going to use commercial music, especially in cases that might
make you money (or raise money for a campaign), it is best to get the permission of the artist first.


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I don't believe that any of these "artists" have a case of copyright infringement though, because the Trump campaign isn't even trying to make mone
off the music (the Trump rallies are free admission.)

But do they accept campaign donations at these events, or do they host
donors at these events? Do they use footage in campaign advertising?


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In come cases, it is political -- i.e. artist likes candidate A but candidate B is the one using their music. There are supposedly a lot of artists that do like Trump so he should probably stick to using their music.

Yea but then they can change their mind about Trump later and sue if they
want to. I like what Ron said about it: "The songs are usually owned by a record company." But we don't see record companies trying to sue Trump; it's just washed up musicians crying about it.

If you are going to use commercial music, especially in cases that might make you money (or raise money for a campaign), it is best to get the permission of the artist first.

I just don't see how Trump's using it to raise money. He doesn't ask for donations at his rallies, and he hosts 10s of thousands of people at a time, at his own expense.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I think it's just the Isaac Hayes family who is actually suing. But
Dave Grohl is just trying to be a cheerleader for the left by saying
"All proceeds from that song will go to the Harris campaign."

"Trying" is the operative word since he probably doesn't have any say in the matter.

I don't believe that any of these "artists" have a case of copyright infringement though, because the Trump campaign isn't even trying to
make money off the music (the Trump rallies are free admission.)

And even if they did, if they used it under an ASCAP license, there's nothing the "artists" can do.


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I think it's just the Isaac Hayes family who is actually suing. But Dave Grohl is just trying to be a cheerleader for the left by saying "All proceeds from that song will go to the Harris campaign."

"Trying" is the operative word since he probably doesn't have any say in the matter.

Yea, these celebrities seem like they have some kind of behind-the-scenes contract with the left. Dave Grohl is just clearing the air to make sure that the top elite (Soros, Gates, etc) don't start to doubt their allegiance.

I don't believe that any of these "artists" have a case of copyright infringement though, because the Trump campaign isn't even trying to make money off the music (the Trump rallies are free admission.)

And even if they did, if they used it under an ASCAP license, there's nothing the "artists" can do.

They might still need to cry about it publicly, just to stay on George's good side.

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In come cases, it is political -- i.e. artist likes candidate A but candidate B is the one using their music. There are supposedly a lot of artists that do like Trump so he should probably stick to using their music.

Yea but then they can change their mind about Trump later and sue if they want to. I like what Ron said about it: "The songs are usually owned by a record company." But we don't see record companies trying to sue Trump; it's just washed up musicians crying about it.

For a performer it is a double edge sword. If you suspect that most of
your audience leans left, for example, you don't want them thinking you
have endorsed a candidate they very much don't like because that candidate
is using your song.

I am guessing you'd not like it if Kamala was using a song you wrote and performed, even if the record company owns it.

Like I said, this is nothing new. I think we just hear about it now
because of the damned internet -- the "idiot box" of the 2000s.


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I am guessing you'd not like it if Kamala was using a song you wrote and performed, even if the record company owns it.

Like I said, this is nothing new. I think we just hear about it now because of the damned internet -- the "idiot box" of the 2000s.

I'm glad we do hear about it though. It helps me organize my sh!! list of musicians that I don't listen to anymore. (Although most of these have already been on the list for a long time.)

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yea, these celebrities seem like they have some kind of
behind-the-scenes contract with the left. Dave Grohl is just clearing
the air to make sure that the top elite (Soros, Gates, etc) don't start
to doubt their allegiance.

That's probably closer to the truth than anything that I've seen.

It seems to me that, once you become a "star" in Hollywood, you've been completely compromised on ethics and morals.


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Yea, these celebrities seem like they have some kind of behind-the-scenes contract with the left. Dave Grohl is just clearing the air to make sure that the top elite (Soros, Gates, etc) don't sta to doubt their allegiance.

That's probably closer to the truth than anything that I've seen.

It seems to me that, once you become a "star" in Hollywood, you've been completely compromised on ethics and morals.

"My brother made a pact with the devil." <- Malik Obama (Said it best.)

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