• Re: "Project 2025"

    From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Aug 23 11:44:56 2024
    Trump or the Trump administration are mentioned more than 300 times.

    I have talked to some people who have great reasoning skills in this echo...

    I haven't seen much in the way of "reasonable" in this echo.

    They have mentioned your name several time and in doing so they have not made your reasoning sills better.

    I have to agree.

    You've been pumping this BS for over a week...

    I haven't had much to say about project 2025, and I don't really have anything more to say about it.

    The Heritage Foundation is conservative and have "some" reasonable ideas... and they have "some" ideas that are off the wall. Most of which are not going to be public policy.

    Trump can and will try to distance himself from project 2025 but it's a bit late for that. The details are all out in the open, I'll not get into debates about it. The facts are all there for those interested.

    All the fear fear mongering the left want to do with this project is to get them to think Trump wants to do a federal ban on abortion. And he said he's not.

    Trumps abortion damage is done now. I don't really care to debate it any more although I might call out simple lies and deceptions.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 23 12:59:00 2024
    Trump or the Trump administration are mentioned more than 300 times.

    Earth to Al: He was talking about author credits. CLEARLY

    Oh, ya'll didn't want to hear of Trump honorable (or not so honorable) mentions?

    Sorry! ;)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 23 13:27:56 2024
    You already acknowledged that he's not an author of the book, so why are you reverting back to this BS again?

    I never said Trump was the author of the book. I dunno what IB is on about.

    The details of Peter Pan or The Spirit of Capitalism are all out in the open too, but Trump didn't write those books either!

    Right, Trump never wrote any book.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 24 09:31:45 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Mike gave a speech right after Barry at the DNC. Where he talked
    about his parents not wanting to be rich and his mother looked down on people who took more than they needed.

    I didn't know that Mr. and Mrs. Karl Marx were black. :)

    This came from a man who's worth 100's millions of dollars living him multiple homes worth 10's of millions of dollars each. Flying around
    the wold in private jets... Living the life of Ryley.

    The only infinite thing in the universe is Elitist hypocrisy.

    But that's not a surprise. "Rules for thee, but not for me" has been their mantra for a long, long time now.

    This begs a question... Barry and Mike are worth 100s of millions.
    They don't have a product or service to sell. They accumulated their wealth because they worked for the government. Whereas other wealthy people created this and as well as jobs and whatnot.

    We need to remember the mental difference between those people who EARN their wealth and those who simply received it.

    The Osamas received their wealth through not doing any work. They want more and more because they don't have to actually work to get it. They are doing what Biden did: trade favors - from other people who actually DO work. (Read "Atlas Shrugged" to see how that turns out.)

    How many multi-million dollar homes does Mike have to own... How many
    100s of millions of dollars does Mike have to have before he says that
    the US is a great country!!!!

    As many as they can get. Remember they don't work for it. So they are terrified about losing anything because they can't get it back. So they want more and more and more to make sure that they have all the wealth they want.

    And they got that money by selling out the country to others. Interestingly, that's called "treason".

    BTW, Oprah was on the same stage complaining about income inequality in her life.... Hello!!!! She's a billionaire

    Listening to Oprah pontificate on income equality is like listening to a 350lb "doctor" telling you how to lose weight.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 24 09:31:45 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So, you need a registered voter. Especially if people are going to
    track votes vs. registered voters. For auditing purposes, if Fred
    Ziffle cast a vote, then there should be a Fred Ziffle on the voter roll.

    Honestly, I still don't understand how this works. (But I can't always understand everything.)

    I think you're missing something that's implied.

    1. Illegals are allowed to get driver's licenses (at least here in Michigan). 2. Long ago, many states passed "motor voter" laws that automatically register people to vote when they get/renew a driver's license.
    3. In Michigan, at least, the Sec of State is an Elitist, so she doesn't require a citizenship check when the driver's license is gotten (and the person is registered to vote).
    4. So now we have a bunch of illegals who are registered vote and they are on the voter rolls.
    5. A mule goes to these areas where the illegals are and tells them how to request a mail-in ballot and offers them money for it.
    6. The illegals request their mail-in ballot. Since they are on the voter roll, they get sent a ballot.
    7. They are told to just sign the envelope and give it to the mule who gives the illegal money.
    8. The mule takes the ballot to the central center to be auctioned off.

    Remember that this is BLANK ballot. But all the forms have been followed.

    So someone else filled out the ballot, ticking the candidate that he's told. The ballot is sent back in and counted.

    The ballot counts look good (i.e. 500,000 registered voters, less than that number of ballots cast - which is normal). So no appearant fraud there.

    The name on the ballot matches the name on the voter roll and the signature matches. No appearant voter fraud there either.

    But a bunch of illegals voted in our election, which is illegal. But how do you prove that?

    Remember the massive fraud in the last election? The counts were WAY off (far more votes than voters). We had names that weren't on the rolls. We had people voting who were dead, incapacitated, etc. This fraud gets around all that.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Aug 24 10:36:00 2024
    After having this conversation, now my concern is with early voting, at least in New York. People can steal ballots by impersonating people and the poll workers won't care one way or the other as long as they get paid for their work. And this state is the official dumping ground for illegal migrants :(

    We have early in person voting here. You need ID here so we don't have
    those problems. Make IDs necessary and you won't either.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Aug 24 11:11:00 2024
    You to Alan:
    You've been pumping this BS for over a week...

    Alan to you:
    I haven't had much to say about project 2025, and I don't really have anything
    more to say about it.

    So now we are to a variation of Al's famous "I didn't say that" defense:
    * JD Vance wrote the forward
    * Yes, he did!
    * Well OK maybe he didn't, but the Bad Orange Man is involved
    * Yes, he is!
    * "I haven't had much to say" about it


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sat Aug 24 11:12:00 2024
    Trump or the Trump administration are mentioned more than 300 times.

    Earth to Al: He was talking about author credits. CLEARLY

    Oh, ya'll didn't want to hear of Trump honorable (or not so honorable) mentions?

    Sorry! ;)

    So in other words, you yourself could write up a bunch of bologna, mention Trump's name a bunch of times, and then claim he had something to do with
    the writing of said bologna?

    I guess in these internet times we live in, you could convince many, many people that he was involved in the writing of your drivel, even if he wasn't.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Aug 24 10:55:00 2024
    4. So now we have a bunch of illegals who are registered vote and they are on the voter rolls.
    5. A mule goes to these areas where the illegals are and tells them how to request a mail-in ballot and offers them money for it.
    6. The illegals request their mail-in ballot. Since they are on the voter roll, they get sent a ballot.
    7. They are told to just sign the envelope and give it to the mule who gives the illegal money.
    8. The mule takes the ballot to the central center to be auctioned off.

    Sounds like this scheme doesn't require them to be illegal.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 24 11:12:46 2024
    On 24 Aug 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    I didn't know that Mr. and Mrs. Karl Marx were black. :)


    Yup, Karl 2.0 is...


    The only infinite thing in the universe is Elitist hypocrisy.


    This is the truest statement I have ever heard. And I can see the cracks forming with the grip they have on the minions.


    We need to remember the mental difference between those people who EARN their wealth and those who simply received it.

    The Osamas received their wealth through not doing any work. They want more and more because they don't have to actually work to get it. They are doing what Biden did: trade favors - from other people who actually
    DO work. (Read "Atlas Shrugged" to see how that turns out.)


    They must be in panic mode now... after RFK Jr.'s exit speech yesterday.


    As many as they can get. Remember they don't work for it. So they are terrified about losing anything because they can't get it back. So they want more and more and more to make sure that they have all the wealth they want.

    And they got that money by selling out the country to others. Interestingly, that's called "treason".

    BTW, Oprah was on the same stage complaining about income inequality her life.... Hello!!!! She's a billionaire

    Listening to Oprah pontificate on income equality is like listening to a 350lb "doctor" telling you how to lose weight.



    The next couple months are going to be tough for the country. Elitist trying to keep control. The people with TDS... I can't imagine how it's going to be ...

    Anyway... get some popcorn!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 24 11:24:28 2024
    On 24 Aug 2024, Mike Powell said the following...


    You to Alan:
    You've been pumping this BS for over a week...

    Alan to you:
    I haven't had much to say about project 2025, and I don't really have anything
    more to say about it.

    So now we are to a variation of Al's famous "I didn't say that" defense:
    * JD Vance wrote the forward
    * Yes, he did!
    * Well OK maybe he didn't, but the Bad Orange Man is involved
    * Yes, he is!
    * "I haven't had much to say" about it


    HAHAHAHA... Thanx for the review!!!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 24 10:58:48 2024
    * "I haven't had much to say" about it

    I have only said that project 2025 was a blueprint for autocracy.

    A lot more could be said about it but it's a big subject and I don't have time for it.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 24 11:00:42 2024
    So in other words, you yourself could write up a bunch of bologna, mention Trump's name a bunch of times, and then claim he had something to do with
    the writing of said bologna?

    Trump would like to distance hi,self from but that ship has sailed.

    I guess in these internet times we live in, you could convince many, many people that he was involved in the writing of your drivel, even if he wasn't.

    No, I don't write in all caps.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 25 09:41:19 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Sounds like this scheme doesn't require them to be illegal.

    It doesn't. So that makes me think that they've pulled this scam many times before. But, today, enough people have woken up to what the Elitists are doing and aren't cooperating any more.

    That's why the Elitists had to import all those illegals.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 25 09:41:19 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They must be in panic mode now... after RFK Jr.'s exit speech
    yesterday.

    They've been in panic mode since Trump was president.

    The good thing is that whenever they panic, they overplay their hand and expose more of their corruption. That wakes more people up and makes the Elitists panic more.

    The next couple months are going to be tough for the country. Elitist trying to keep control. The people with TDS... I can't imagine how
    it's going to be ...

    Oh, I expect the Elitists to pull out every stop in the next few months. But it's getting harder for them as their operatives keep getting jailed for fraud and pedophilia.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 25 17:17:58 2024
    On 25 Aug 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    They've been in panic mode since Trump was president.

    The good thing is that whenever they panic, they overplay their hand and expose more of their corruption. That wakes more people up and makes
    the Elitists panic more.


    I wished you were using technology that was a little more current.... If you start a GoFundMe to get a VGA monitor so that you'll get a way from that EGA monitor you have...

    https://youtu.be/_yymZpY5hJ4?si=nS5X2W9-SRhXBKrY

    This will be taken down shortly. It's a video, from a guy I like to follow, that looks into the fact that there were more than 1 shooter... and also goes down the rabbit hole of government involvement.


    Oh, I expect the Elitists to pull out every stop in the next few months. But it's getting harder for them as their operatives keep getting jailed for fraud and pedophilia.


    Videos of Oprah introducing all the unsuspected victims to their victimizers as well..

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 25 17:58:44 2024
    I think you're missing something that's implied.

    1. Illegals are allowed to get driver's licenses (at least here in

    Thanks for this explanation. I think you explained it to me a few years ago but I forgot all about it.

    The same thing happens here in New York where illegals are allowed to get drivers licenses, and they encourage people to register to vote whenever they do any drivers license transaction with the DMV, but it's not automatic like in Michigan. However, opting-in to register to vote is easy, so it sounds like this same scam could happen here almost just as easily.

    But surely that's not why Democrats want them here, right? ;)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 25 18:18:14 2024
    After having this conversation, now my concern is with early voting, at in New York. People can steal ballots by impersonating people and the po workers won't care one way or the other as long as they get paid for the work. And this state is the official dumping ground for illegal migrants

    We have early in person voting here. You need ID here so we don't have those problems. Make IDs necessary and you won't either.

    It's surprising that a Democrat governor would allow that rule in his state. Is he trying to change that?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 25 18:32:08 2024
    Sounds like this scheme doesn't require them to be illegal.

    It doesn't. So that makes me think that they've pulled this scam many times before. But, today, enough people have woken up to what the Elitists are doing and aren't cooperating any more.

    The illegals don't care one way or the other who gets elected, they just want that $20 or whatever was promised to them.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 26 07:11:32 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This will be taken down shortly. It's a video, from a guy I like to follow, that looks into the fact that there were more than 1 shooter... and also goes down the rabbit hole of government involvement.

    At this point, I don't think that either of those ideas would surprise anyone. Especially after the Propaganda Ministry memory-holed the shooting as soon as they could.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 26 07:11:32 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But surely that's not why Democrats want them here, right? ;)

    That's what it looks like. The Great Replacement Theory pretty much outlines it. Lower the American birth rate. Then import people from other countries who are easier to control.


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