• Re: Project 2025

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 15 13:16:02 2024
    The so-called "plan" has not been proposed by Trump, although certain elements of it are reminiscent of Trump's 2016-2020 administration. It sounds like a great plan to me.

    Did you read the part that raises taxes on the middle class and lowers taxes for the rich?

    It's better than spending trilions in deficit spending, it's better than taking away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicles, and it's better than letting the world's criminals walk around on our streets.

    There's no such thing as a perfect solution to anything, but this will work for me.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 15 09:56:30 2024
    The so-called "plan" has not been proposed by Trump, although certain elements of it are reminiscent of Trump's 2016-2020 administration. It
    sounds like a great plan to me.

    Did you read the part that raises taxes on the middle class and lowers taxes for the rich?

    Understand all that it comes with.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 15 22:42:42 2024
    Did you read the part that raises taxes on the middle class and lowers
    taxes for the rich?

    It's better than spending trilions in deficit spending,

    Donald J Trump increased the debt by trillions. Trump ran up more debt than any other President in American history.

    it's better than takin away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicles,

    You have every right to your gas powered vehicles.

    and it's better than letting the world's criminals walk around on our streets.

    That is a silly right wing talking point.

    There's no such thing as a perfect solution to anything, but this will work for me.

    You seem to want more government, not less.

    Project2025 is not a solution to anything.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 16 04:56:36 2024
    It's better than spending trilions in deficit spending,

    Donald J Trump increased the debt by trillions. Trump ran up more debt than any other President in American history.

    The fido-debater in me wants to ask you for a reference for that bs statement, but the reality is that Biden-Harris signed the largest cash-grab bills in American history, and that you have a history of distorting the truth.

    it's better than takin away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicle

    You have every right to your gas powered vehicles.

    Are you rehearsing for a play at the Blandford Recreation Center? The right to manufacture gas powered vehicles is under constant threat by Democrats. They are the ones who have a "Project 2035."

    Why, Al? Why all these baseless claims all the time? Trying to keep Fidonet active is a noble cause, but some of us are actually trying to make some sense in here.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 16 07:23:47 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    It's better than spending trilions in deficit spending, it's better
    than taking away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicles, and
    it's better than letting the world's criminals walk around on our
    streets.

    There's no such thing as a perfect solution to anything, but this will work for me.

    Time for another Thomas Sowell quote: There are no solutions. Only trade offs.

    The Elitists want us to think that there are solutions and give them more power to make the trade offs. But those trade offs only help the Elitists.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Aug 16 09:41:00 2024
    it's better than takin away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicles,

    You have every right to your gas powered vehicles.

    Until some point in the future when it stops working and no one is making
    new ones any more. Presuming they've not broken the power grid by then,
    that means we will all be buying indirect coal powered vehicles.

    and it's better than letting the world's criminals walk around on our streets.

    That is a silly right wing talking point.

    Keeping the borders open doesn't help with crime. If it did,
    Canada would be fine with Americans coming in and going as they please
    without paperwork. Unless they've made a serious policy change since 2017,
    I know Canada's border is not as open as ours.

    You seem to want more government, not less.

    He may.

    Project2025 is not a solution to anything.

    There may be a few individual points contained within that would be worth pursuing but, as a whole, you are very correct. It offers several answers
    to questions that shouldn't be asked and that would ultimately only cost US taxpayers more without comparable benefit.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Aug 16 09:36:14 2024
    It's better than spending trilions in deficit spending, it's better than taking away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicles, and it's better than letting the world's criminals walk around on our streets.

    There's no such thing as a perfect solution to anything, but this wil work for me.

    Time for another Thomas Sowell quote: There are no solutions. Only
    trade offs.

    The Elitists want us to think that there are solutions and give them
    more power to make the trade offs. But those trade offs only help the Elitists.

    Excellent quote. It's difficult to explain to a child that there's no politician who's going to wave a magic wand and fix everything.

    But then again, deficit spending is like a magic wand, and Democrats like Harris will wave it, but by midnight all their "magic" turns into a pumpkin and a dirty old dog, and record-high inflation.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 16 12:59:00 2024
    Donald J Trump increased the debt by trillions. Trump ran up more debt
    than any other President in American history.

    The fido-debater in me wants to ask you for a reference for that bs statement,

    Put that staement in a google search and enjoy.

    but the reality is that Biden-Harris signed the largest cash-grab bills in American history, and that you have a history of distorting the truth.

    The biden economy is doing well. Very well in fact.

    it's better than takin away our right to manufacture gas powered vehicle >>
    You have every right to your gas powered vehicles.

    Why, Al? Why all these baseless claims all the time?

    I guess the right has lost touch with reality.

    Trying to keep Fidonet active is a noble cause, but some of us are actually trying to make some sense in here.

    By lying? Lying doesn't make sense.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 16 14:18:24 2024
    The fido-debater in me wants to ask you for a reference for that bs statement,

    Put that staement in a google search and enjoy.

    Google isn't a fact-checker. It's a search engine.

    The biden economy is doing well. Very well in fact.

    What's good about it?

    Trying to keep Fidonet active is a noble cause, but some of us are actua trying to make some sense in here.

    By lying? Lying doesn't make sense.

    So anything that goes against a Google search's results, is a lie?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 16 13:29:10 2024
    You have every right to your gas powered vehicles.

    Until some point in the future when it stops working and no one is making
    new ones any more. Presuming they've not broken the power grid by then,
    that means we will all be buying indirect coal powered vehicles.

    Indeed, oil is not the only problem.

    That is a silly right wing talking point.

    Keeping the borders open doesn't help with crime. If it did,
    Canada would be fine with Americans coming in and going as they please without paperwork. Unless they've made a serious policy change since 2017,
    I know Canada's border is not as open as ours.

    The Border is an issue. There was a bi-partisan deal in place but republicans in the house rejected it as we all know for well known reasons.

    The real solution to this issue is not squaking about the president. Congess needs to pass laws and then enforce those laws. This is largely done already but if changes are needed you need a congress willing to make those and move them forward.

    Project2025 is not a solution to anything.

    There may be a few individual points contained within that would be worth pursuing but, as a whole, you are very correct. It offers several answers
    to questions that shouldn't be asked and that would ultimately only cost US taxpayers more without comparable benefit.

    Project2025 is a blueprint for autocracy. I don't think that is what Americans want.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 16 13:42:38 2024
    Google isn't a fact-checker. It's a search engine.

    Yes, search for what you are looking for.

    The biden economy is doing well. Very well in fact.

    What's good about it?

    The US economy is the envy of the wealthy world.

    Look it up.

    By lying? Lying doesn't make sense.

    So anything that goes against a Google search's results, is a lie?

    Lying doesn't make sense. Look it up.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 16 19:40:30 2024
    The biden economy is doing well. Very well in fact.

    What's good about it?

    The US economy is the envy of the wealthy world.

    Look it up.

    I can't prove your points for you.

    And envy is a bad thing. Look that up in the bible.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 16 19:07:26 2024
    The US economy is the envy of the wealthy world.

    Look it up.

    I can't prove your points for you.

    I don't expect you to prove anything.

    And envy is a bad thing. Look that up in the bible.

    Politics of dysfunction, disinformation and personal destruction is also bad.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 17 09:40:07 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Excellent quote. It's difficult to explain to a child that there's no politician who's going to wave a magic wand and fix everything.

    That's because the child is ignorant. He doesn't see dad going hungry in order to feed the child.

    What's expected is that as the child grows up, he will see and understand the trade offs. But our society is keeping people child-like longer and longer and they can't see the trade offs.

    "Don't cut down the trees!". Tomorrow: "Why are all these wildfires happening?"

    "Everyone should use an EV". Tomorrow: "Why is there still pollution? And why doesn't my car work in the winter?"

    But then again, deficit spending is like a magic wand, and Democrats
    like Harris will wave it, but by midnight all their "magic" turns into
    a pumpkin and a dirty old dog, and record-high inflation.

    It's the usual Socialist problem. Venesuela went through it. China is having that issue now, but they are hiding it well. As long as the Elitists have a full belly and heat, they don't care about what happens to the plebes.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Aug 17 10:21:00 2024
    "Don't cut down the trees!". Tomorrow: "Why are all these wildfires happening?"

    There is at least one Native American tribe that used to burn the
    underbrush in their area of California but the state stopped them from
    doing so. Then they had a bunch of wildfires because the underbrush got
    dry and was an accident waiting to happen, over and over again.

    Now California is allowing the natives to conduct their underbrush burning ceremonies again.

    "Everyone should use an EV". Tomorrow: "Why is there still pollution? And wh
    doesn't my car work in the winter?"

    Or "why did the battery blow up and incenerate my family?"


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 17 22:36:32 2024
    What's expected is that as the child grows up, he will see and
    understand the trade offs. But our society is keeping people child-like longer and longer and they can't see the trade offs.

    That's exactly how I see it. The ignorant leftists are in for a rude awakening, and we're in for a big "why did they do this to themselves?"

    The band-aids are going to get ripped off, hair and all, any day now. I think most of these kiddos will realize that they've been duped, but a few of them are OBVIOUSLY never, ever going to understand why there's suddenly no more presents under the tree.

    "Don't cut down the trees!". Tomorrow: "Why are all these wildfires happening?"

    That's a good example!

    "Everyone should use an EV". Tomorrow: "Why is there still pollution? And why doesn't my car work in the winter?"

    Only the 1/2 smart ones will ask that stupid question, because the other 1/2 will bet their lives on websites that say that "pollution is down."

    rootmetrics.com, or whatever crap.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 18 10:03:33 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The band-aids are going to get ripped off, hair and all, any day now.

    They've been getting ripped off. When Colbert claims that "CNN is unbiased" and his **left wing** audience laughs at that, you know that people are waking up.

    When the purple haired, pierced coffee shop employee is out of a job because of the minimum wage hike in the area, that's a wake up call.

    When someone has to have 2 jobs just to keep above water because of Bidenflation, that's a wake up call.

    Granted that some are just going to keep repeating the Narrative Mantra to themselves. But not all.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 18 10:14:28 2024
    The band-aids are going to get ripped off, hair and all, any day now.

    They've been getting ripped off. When Colbert claims that "CNN is unbiased" and his **left wing** audience laughs at that, you know that people are waking up.

    When the purple haired, pierced coffee shop employee is out of a job because of the minimum wage hike in the area, that's a wake up call.

    When someone has to have 2 jobs just to keep above water because of Bidenflation, that's a wake up call.

    Granted that some are just going to keep repeating the Narrative Mantra
    to themselves. But not all.

    Right. Some people are not going to be ignorant enough to walk away from their job with a pink slip and head over to their polling place with plans to vote for Kamala.

    They've been lied to over and over again. Kamala's voters are going to be people who struggle with gambling addiction, and that's certainly not the majority of us.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 19 07:24:21 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Right. Some people are not going to be ignorant enough to walk away
    from their job with a pink slip and head over to their polling place
    with plans to vote for Kamala.

    Well, people who vote for Kamala usually don't have jobs, or don't have living wage jobs, so they are still living with mom and dad.

    They've been lied to over and over again. Kamala's voters are going to
    be people who struggle with gambling addiction, and that's certainly
    not the majority of us.

    No, it's not. But the Propaganda Ministry is trying hard to make us think that 5% of the population is the "majority".


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