Hello Alan,

An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

No it is not.

Yes it is.

You need to brush up. Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump
(twice) were *all* impeached. *None* of them were removed from office.

The purpose of impeachment is to remove someone from office.

Articles of impeachment are filed in the House of Representatives.
A vote is taken. If the majority votes in favor, the person in question
is impeached. If there is no majority, the motion of impeachment fails.

The senate determines the outcome of impeachment.

The vote in the House of Representatives determines the outcome
of impeachment. If the motion passes, the individual is impeached.
If the motion fails, the individual is not impeached.

The senate has nothing to do with the matter. If the motion passes
in the House, the individual is impeached. What the Senate does is a
separate matter, as it acts as a "court" to decide whether or not to
remove the individual from office. With the Chief Justice of the
Supreme Court presiding over the "trial" - thus ensuring fairness.

Maybe in Canada it is all one thing, but in the United States, impeachment
does not automatically = removal from office.

I am not saying that impeachment = removal from office.

It is part of a process.

You *seem* to understand, in other converstations, that Donald Trump was
impeached, and twice at that. If your definition is correct, he would have
been removed from office. Since Trump remained in office, your definition
of impeachment is proven not to be correct.

Impeacment is not a criminal proceeding.

It can be, in cases of treason.

Someone may be impeached and removed from office or not.

Impeachment is a form of indictment. An accusation. That in and of
itself is not a conviction, or a sentence.

If crimes have been committed there may be criminal proceedings that are not
part of impeachment.

Crimes? What crimes? The US Supreme Court has ruled the president
has immunity and can do whatever he wants. In his official capacity.

The very thought of that should make you quake in your Canadian boots.

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An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

No it is not.

Yes it is.

You need to brush up. Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump (twice) were *all* impeached. *None* of them were removed from office.

The purpose of impeachment is to remove someone from office. The senate determines the outcome of impeachment.

An impeachment is like an indictment. Just like you can be indicted but
never found guilty, you can be impeached and not be removed from office.

Maybe in Canada it is all one thing, but in the United States, impeachment does not automatically = removal from office.

I am not saying that impeachment = removal from office.

Yes, you did. It is above and repeated here:

An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

I knew we'd land soon enough on "I didn't say that" once you realized you
were mistaken.

Impeacment is not a criminal proceeding. Someone may be impeached and removed from office or not. If crimes have been committed there may be criminal proceedings that are not part of impeachment.

True in the sense that it does not occur in the criminal court system.
However, removal from office does rest on the House's ability to convince
the Senate that criminal acts (treason, bribery, other "high crimes") have
been committed. The Senate does not have the power to remove someone who
has not committed these criminal acts, even if the house decided to impeach them.


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On 14 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

Well Mike, if you want to remove some one from office what do you do?

Impeach them!

Well Alan... there are 2 steps to the process ... Impeach, the house, and convict, the senate.

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Yes, you did. It is above and repeated here:

An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

Well Mike, if you want to remove some one from office what do you do?

Impeach them!

I knew we'd land soon enough on "I didn't say that" once you realized you were mistaken.

That is what I said!

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Well Mike, if you want to remove some one from office what do you do?

Impeach them!

Well Alan... there are 2 steps to the process ... Impeach, the house, and convict, the senate.

Well Joe, this is what I said!

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Well Alan... there are 2 steps to the process ... Impeach, the house, and convict, the senate.

Well Joe, this is what I said!

Only after it was pointed out that you were wrong.


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On 14 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

Well Joe, this is what I said!

Alan you made, implied, it was a step process. Trump impeached twice and never convicted. Will be the 47th president of the United States.

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Well Joe, this is what I said!

Only after it was pointed out that you were wrong.

Don't be silly.

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Well Joe, this is what I said!

Alan you made, implied, it was a step process.

My point is simply the impeachment is to remove someone from office.

Trump impeached twice and never convicted.

Good job Sherlock!

Will be the 47th president of the United States.

I don't think so but we'll know after election day.

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Hello Mikey,

Well Alan... there are 2 steps to the process ... Impeach, the house,

and

convict, the senate.

Well Joe, this is what I said!

Only after it was pointed out that you were wrong.

Without an impeachment, there can be no trial, dumbfuck.

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Only after it was pointed out that you were wrong.

Don't be silly.

I am not. You kept argueing with us that it was one way, and then changed
your tune, pretending that it what you were always saying.

You are the silly one. I never knew where the phrase "He wouldn't know his
ass from a hole in the ground" came from, but now I am 100% convinced that someone who had to deal with you coined that phrase.


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On 16 Aug 2024, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Without an impeachment, there can be no trial, dumbfuck.

Lee don't be an ass and call people a DumbF*%k... When one can say your insults are projection of your own self-loathing.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm

I referenced the US governments page on impeachment.

Impeachment is a multi-step process that STARTS with a vote in the house, simple majority vote will do it. The House is to investigate the reasons behind the vote... The present this evidence to the Senate and the senate has a TRIAL... Which is part of the same PROCESS.

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The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3). The president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States are subject to impeachment.

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE...

The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official upon conviction is removal from office. In some cases, the Senate has also disqualified such officials from holding public offices in the future. There is no appeal. Since 1789 about half of Senate impeachment trials have resulted in conviction and removal from office.
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Impeachment is a process that has 2 major events. First being an investigation and subsequent vote in the House. The second phase is the trial and subsequent conviction or acquittal.

A 2 step process of which you acknowledgment 1 part to help support some claim about something that has nothing to do with anything.

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Don't be silly.

I am not. You kept argueing with us that it was one way, and then changed your tune, pretending that it what you were always saying.

The purpose of impeachment (successful or not) is to remove someone from office.

Don't be silly.

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Hello Gregory,

Acquitted? An impeachment is not a criminal proceeding and DJT AI>was not

acquitted of anything. This was a major republican failure AI>to act.

You have much to learn.
In the message you are to read or ignore - I have captured the essence of Great legal minds, all of which would proclaim you to be idiot.

Donald Trump was successfully impeached - twice - by the US House
of Representatives. Majority vote was all that was needed - regardless
of party. And then trial was held in the US Senate. Where the accused
was convicted by majority vote. The only "failure" was (as Alan noted) republicans decision not to remove Trump from office.

Just wanted to pass that along as a public service message who would take the time to be offended or take no offense and of course not be offended.

Impeachment is forever. Kind of like indelible ink. The stain can
never be removed. And Trump managed to get two of them.

An impeachment according to
https://tinyurl.com/2p9dkh7x
An Impeachment is the process of bringing
charges against a government official for wrongdoing. A trial may be held, and the official may be removed from office. My point is that these baseless efforts failed. Twice, with the acquittals.

Trump was impeached (twice) by the US House of Representatives.
Trump was found guilty by a jury of his peers (US Senate).
He was not removed from office, which is a different matter.

Donald Trump has been convicted of criminal charges and he has more
charges to answer for.

Trumps supporters are only growing larger from what they were.

Harris' lead in the polls is growing larger from what they were.
So much so that she is in the lead, with Trump trailing badly.

But that is beside the point. Trump is a convicted felon, having
been found guilty of having committed criminal acts. With more
counts pending. He will be sentenced in due time, and escorted
off the stage to a galaxy far, far away ...

These "so called charges" that you speak have back fired and to coin a phrase "Big League" The Charges... had a complete opposite effect of what they intended do.

The term "convicted felon" will soon be changed to "convicted
felon sentenced to jail" - thus making things clearer for MAGA
idiots to understand.

The plan was to destroy Trump with this fever pitch rhetoric.
The plain and simple truth is the Left painted Trump with a broad brush with
their haste, and they screwed up... So Bad.. (Christopher Walken)

We tried to draft Christopher Walken for President. He is from
Queens, and speaks fluent Y'at. But Kamala is bitch, and Walken
turned it down.

Trump for 77 years was a golden to everyone, he had a great presidency (Yes I do have that list of accomplishments and it is long.)
Out no where Trump *WAS* facing a Frankenstein ruling in New York.

Dr. Frankenstein's monster was done away with, and now we will soon
have a black woman as POTUS. And what a wonderful world that will be.

But before then, time for some amusement -

Aaron Rodgers' second attempt to jumpstart the New York Jets.
His first outing only lasted a few short plays. Could not even
get a single first down. Maybe this time around he will last
a bit longer. Might even complete a pass.

For Life,
Lee

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