• Your cousins

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All leftists on Sat Jul 27 18:45:56 2024
    I clearly remember Joe Biden say that he was putting Kamala Harris in charge of "Stymying the border crisis."

    Here's a video of it:
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1816098217638928424

    Now, since Joe has announced that he's not seeking a 2nd term, they have changed their tune. Leftist buddies, you really, really need to see this quick little collage of news clips:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1816201597929574614

    Your cousins are contradicting what they said before Joe's big announcement. They used to agree that Kamala was in charge of the border, but now they're saying that it's a lie from the Republican party."

    Doesn't it bother you that they propagated you one way, and now they're propagating the opposite?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Jul 28 09:56:00 2024
    Your cousins are contradicting what they said before Joe's big announcement. They used to agree that Kamala was in charge of the border, but now they're saying that it's a lie from the Republican party."

    Some are trying to play word games, too. Like "he gave her that responsibility, but he didn't name her 'border czar.'" While that might be semantically correct, it was the press (not Republicans) who tagged her
    with the "czar" title, just like every other elected and appointed official
    who was given the responsibility to watch over issues that were serious to
    the administration, like previous "drug czars" who were responsible for slowing/halting the flow of drugs into our country.

    Per the Webster's web site, definition #2 of "czar" is "a person appointed
    by government to advise on *and coordinate* policy in a particular area."

    When they are playing semantic games, you know they are grasping at straws.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 28 12:15:30 2024
    Per the Webster's web site, definition #2 of "czar" is "a person
    appointed by government to advise on *and coordinate* policy in a particular area."

    That sounds right.

    Either Biden was lying about putting her in charge of stymying the flow, or she just failed miserably at the task.

    I haven't heard any update about "root causes" yet either.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jul 29 09:46:00 2024
    Per the Webster's web site, definition #2 of "czar" is "a person appointed by government to advise on *and coordinate* policy in a particular area."

    That sounds right.

    Either Biden was lying about putting her in charge of stymying the flow, or she
    just failed miserably at the task.

    Did Biden ever later say anything about it? Like maybe he figured out she wasn't up to the task and just quietly stripped her of the responsibility?

    Otherwise, he did it, never undid it, and she is still failing miserably at
    it.

    Biden keeps lying that crossings are down but, then again, in his altered reality he may believe it to be true, in which case it is not really a lie
    and he may really believe she is doing a good job.

    I haven't heard any update about "root causes" yet either.

    The "root causes" they have continued to mention is "Republicans" and
    "Trump" but I don't think those are correct, and they certainly are not the leading causes.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 29 13:32:30 2024
    Either Biden was lying about putting her in charge of stymying the flow, >she
    just failed miserably at the task.

    Did Biden ever later say anything about it? Like maybe he figured out
    she wasn't up to the task and just quietly stripped her of the responsibility?

    That would explain it, and I was hoping to hear that from the media, but nope. Haven't heard it anywhere.

    Biden keeps lying that crossings are down but, then again, in his altered reality he may believe it to be true, in which case it is not really a
    lie and he may really believe she is doing a good job.

    It could be true that crossings are down, and we'd never know the difference. I don't think we can rely on CBP data, and we definitely can't rely on what anyone else has to say about it. But what has either Biden or Harris done to make that plausible? (Not enough!)

    The "root causes" they have continued to mention is "Republicans" and "Trump" but I don't think those are correct, and they certainly are not the leading causes.

    I've heard that narrative too. The media probably forgot that some of us are still waiting patiently for the verdict on those root causes.

    On a side note, I don't recall Biden ever saying "I'm putting Kamala in charge of solving the problem," just "I'm putting Kamala in charge of finding
    out the root causes." I'm honestly not concerned about anyone's "root causes," I just want them stopped, but that was never promised in the first place. :(

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Jul 30 10:00:00 2024
    Did Biden ever later say anything about it? Like maybe he figured out she wasn't up to the task and just quietly stripped her of the responsibility?

    That would explain it, and I was hoping to hear that from the media, but nope.
    Haven't heard it anywhere.

    I don't think he did strip her of the responsibility. I was only asking to make sure I covered my bases in case I missed something.

    Biden keeps lying that crossings are down but, then again, in his altered
    reality he may believe it to be true, in which case it is not really a lie and he may really believe she is doing a good job.

    It could be true that crossings are down, and we'd never know the difference. don't think we can rely on CBP data, and we definitely can't rely on what anyone else has to say about it. But what has either Biden or Harris done to make that plausible? (Not enough!)

    I don't believe that crossings are down. I would find CBP data to be more reliable than what the politicians are saying.

    On a side note, I don't recall Biden ever saying "I'm putting Kamala in charge
    of solving the problem," just "I'm putting Kamala in charge of finding
    out the root causes." I'm honestly not concerned about anyone's "root causes,"
    I just want them stopped, but that was never promised in the first place. :(

    You find the root causes so you can try to solve the issue. If you don't
    know the root causes, or just try to use a bunch of buzz words to placate people, you won't ever figure out any proper solution.

    Supposedly, she has stated that the one of the issues is poverty in the
    other countries and, rather than close the border, we need to leave it open while we try to solve that issue in those other countries.

    My take on that is that there are not enough resources to fix that issue in
    all of the countries in question; getting involved in the politics of other countries usually does not go well for us (especially countries in Central
    and South America); the only way to fix this by going down her path is to
    make ourselves poorer; and this means the border will never be closed.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Jul 30 15:20:40 2024
    I just want them stopped, but that was never promised in the first place

    You find the root causes so you can try to solve the issue. If you don't know the root causes, or just try to use a bunch of buzz words to placate people, you won't ever figure out any proper solution.

    Supposedly, she has stated that the one of the issues is poverty in the other countries and, rather than close the border, we need to leave it open while we try to solve that issue in those other countries.

    Poverty is the obvious answer. Even Obama agrees with that. But I remember hearing either Biden or Harris saying that "climate change" was another reason (but yea right.)

    My take on that is that there are not enough resources to fix that issue in all of the countries in question; getting involved in the politics of other countries usually does not go well for us (especially countries in Central and South America); the only way to fix this by going down her path is to make ourselves poorer; and this means the border will never
    be closed.

    Investigating the root cause of a problem sounds smart, but Biden/Harris have made the problem worse (according to CBP data and according to the media) and there's nothing smart about that.

    If they're trying to solve the problem by making us poorer, then maybe everything is working out "good" after all ;)

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