• Re: Biden Court Packing

    From Barth Weishoff@1:154/50 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 4 23:02:44 2024
    Well that message aged well.

    So far no scotus packing, though with this horse-shi' ruling about presidents having total immunity, I think it may be time to pack the scotus.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Barth Weishoff on Fri Jul 5 10:00:44 2024
    Barth Weishoff wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    So far no scotus packing, though with this horse-shi' ruling about presidents having total immunity, I think it may be time to pack the scotus.

    Are you Lee, or Alan? Or have they sent in the third-stringers?

    Because all you are doing is parroting the Propaganda.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Barth Weishoff on Fri Jul 5 09:18:38 2024
    On 04 Jul 2024, Barth Weishoff said the following...


    Well that message aged well.

    So far no scotus packing, though with this horse-shi' ruling about presidents having total immunity, I think it may be time to pack the scotus.


    Can you explain yourself a little. They never said total immunity... They said if he was acting within his capacity as a president he was, and asking about a rigged election is within his (Trump's) capacity. This ruling is for "All" presidents and not just Trump.

    Here's an example you might understand... Back in the day Obama and Biden sent drones into the Middle East to kill, that was the purpose of sending the drones... To kill some Americans that the Obama administration deemed where terrorists. This may be TRUE... BUT the US constitution clearly talks about due process and Obama and Biden did not award any of these Americans their constitutional due process. By all accounts these Americans were murdered and their rights not awarded to them.

    Why weren't Obama and Biden held to account for murder? Well they had immunity. Obama claims he sis what he did because of the safety of the US and he was acting in the capacity of his presidency and the constitution.

    I might have handled things differently... extradited them and held them to account with all their rights awarded to them by the constitution... BUT Obama and Biden get a Mulligan.

    During the same administration... Biden went to Ukraine and he said that if the prosecutor doesn't stop investigating Burisma, the company that was paying his son a sh!t load of money where he had no experience get that kinda money.... Joe might not be working within the constitution and his capacity as VP.

    BTW, they fired the prosecutor and Joe gave the Billion dollars shorty after.

    This ruling said that you were to assume immunity, but if there is evidence of corruption, as this clearly was, the lower courts were to have an evidentiary hearing to explore the facts and determine immunity based off that.

    There was no "Total" Immunity and the courts said, clearly in my mind, that there was a separation between powers. You just can't go after a political opponent, the executive branch, with lawfare, the judicial branch.

    This is the first time since 1776 that a president has used the federal government to go after an opponent.

    Joe Biden had a news conference after Trump said he was going to run for a second term... Biden said during this conference that he was going to do everything within his power to make sure Trump doesn't get elected.... and the Lawfare started!!!

    Note Joe didn't say he would debate Trump and vigorously defend his policies... He went after Trump with the DOJ.

    It took the corruption of the current administration for the Supreme Court to remind them of what was written in the Constitution.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Barth Weishoff on Fri Jul 5 17:33:18 2024
    So far no scotus packing, though with this horse-shi' ruling about presidents having total immunity, I think it may be time to pack the scotus.

    Good point though. Whoever controls Biden forgot to pack the court. Maybe they're distracted by the trillions of dollars that they took.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 6 08:34:16 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Barth Weishoff <=-

    Why weren't Obama and Biden held to account for murder? Well they had immunity. Obama claims he sis what he did because of the safety of the
    US and he was acting in the capacity of his presidency and the constitution.

    The process for this would have been for Congress to Impeach at the time, since it was an official act.

    But we knew this was going to be the outcome. Osama, Obiden and Bush did FAR worse things in office. There was no way that they were going to let the immunity rule go away.

    During the same administration... Biden went to Ukraine and he said
    that if the prosecutor doesn't stop investigating Burisma, the company that was paying his son a sh!t load of money where he had no experience get that kinda money.... Joe might not be working within the
    constitution and his capacity as VP.

    Sadly, again, the process would have been Impeachment at the time.

    BTW, they fired the prosecutor and Joe gave the Billion dollars shorty after.

    This was an Impeachable offence and Congress should have acted.

    The Founding Fathers didn't think about what happens when more than one branch acts AGAINST the people. The 'checks and balances' were supposed to prevent this.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 6 13:07:40 2024
    On 06 Jul 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    This was an Impeachable offence and Congress should have acted.

    The Founding Fathers didn't think about what happens when more than one branch acts AGAINST the people. The 'checks and balances' were supposed to prevent this.


    Founding fathers thought they accounted for things... and then we have the current congress. The House Impeaches Mayorkas and the Democrats in the Senate don't have a trial.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 7 08:02:48 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Founding fathers thought they accounted for things... and then we have
    the current congress. The House Impeaches Mayorkas and the Democrats
    in the Senate don't have a trial.

    Exactly. The Founding Fathers assumed that there would be a bunch of power hungry people all trying to work only for theselves. They got the "power hungry" part right, but they didn't count on them working together.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 7 10:49:00 2024
    On 07 Jul 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    Exactly. The Founding Fathers assumed that there would be a bunch of power hungry people all trying to work only for theselves. They got the "power hungry" part right, but they didn't count on them working
    together.


    Saw a video recently on the origins of the Supreme court... Founding Fathers thought that the Supreme Court was the weakest of the 3 branches. They never dreamed that they'd have the power they have...

    The power to impose the will of the founding fathers.

    They believed Congress had the the most power. the president second.

    Make sense ...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 8 07:15:27 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Saw a video recently on the origins of the Supreme court... Founding Fathers thought that the Supreme Court was the weakest of the 3
    branches. They never dreamed that they'd have the power they have...

    The power to impose the will of the founding fathers.

    They believed Congress had the the most power. the president second.

    That's why the Elitists slowly, quietly moved power to the Bureaucracy and out of Congress.

    But with Chevron getting struck down, that ended that.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 8 09:18:16 2024
    On 08 Jul 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    That's why the Elitists slowly, quietly moved power to the Bureaucracy
    and out of Congress.

    But with Chevron getting struck down, that ended that.


    I think God has his hand in this. Because of how the 2020 election was stolen. We got to see what the Democrats are really like. We got to see everything... The media and Elitists were all exposed.

    I am happy with Chevron getting struck down.

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