• OMG

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Wed Jan 3 15:41:55 2024
    The appeals court to hear if Jack Smith was appointed illegally... Arguments set for January 9th.

    This could get interesting.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to All on Tue Jun 11 09:39:30 2024
    Headline

    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY OF ALL THREE FELONIES

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 11 11:25:17 2024
    Hello IB!

    11 Jun 24 09:39, you wrote to all:

    Headline

    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY OF
    ALL THREE FELONIES


    Huh, so are you saying the justice system does work? Didn't you just say the opposite a couple weeks ago?

    So since it works, we now have:

    Presidential Candidate - convicted felon (39 counts)

    Incumbent President and candiate - close relative is a convicted felon (3 counts)


    If Joe was to commute or pardon Hunter's sentence, what kind of stink would you raise? And please, in advance, let me know what kind of hypocrite you would be, since you felt that commuiting or even pardoning Trump's buddies who were convicted of felonies?






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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Tue Jun 11 12:25:32 2024
    On 11 Jun 2024, Mike Miller said the following...


    Huh, so are you saying the justice system does work? Didn't you just say the opposite a couple weeks ago?

    So since it works, we now have:


    Just because the justice system worked once doesn't mean that there isn't a corrupt system.



    Presidential Candidate - convicted felon (39 counts)


    In the case of Trump... The judge would not let the defense team call their expert witnesses, like the NY attorney who turned down the offer to prosecute Trump for Federal Election crimes when it could have been prosecuted.

    As per almost all legal experts, well the ones who don't go on MSNBC, say that Trump's case will be overturned on appeal... or it'll get chucked out at the Supreme Court.

    Well... It could be tit-for-tat ... At least when the Republicans are in power they won't have to use novel legal theories to convict the Democrats..

    :)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Tue Jun 11 12:37:52 2024
    On 11 Jun 2024, Mike Miller said the following...


    If Joe was to commute or pardon Hunter's sentence, what kind of stink would you raise? And please, in advance, let me know what kind of hypocrite you would be, since you felt that commuiting or even pardoning Trump's buddies who were convicted of felonies?


    And he might still do that... The day is still young...

    We're not sure what the sentence might be.... BUT this will screw Hunter for his next trial on Tax evasion... After you've been convicted of a few felonies that doesn't bode well for the that trial...

    We once had a justice system that was the envy of all and now it's corrupt. And just because Hunter was found guilty did not make it better or me a hypocrite... MY GOD... He wrote a book on His addiction, they used it du4ring the trial, where he talked about doing crack around that time. There was his laptop, his non-Russian-disinformation one, where he had pictures and videos of him doing crack at the time... He had ex-wves, girlfriends and other family members testify against him...

    The only thing they didn't have is crack on the gun application...

    Like Donald... Hunter can appeal his conviction... but because Hunter's conviction was based on facts and didn't have reversible decisions made by a corrupt judge... Hunter's conviction will remain and Trump's will be overturned...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 11 13:40:22 2024
    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY OF ALL THREE FELONIES

    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. I don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but not in Delaware?

    And I love how Trump's children aren't accused of violent felonies like Biden's are, and I love how Trump's children aren't druggies either, like Biden's are.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jun 11 14:17:44 2024
    On 11 Jun 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. I don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but
    not in Delaware?

    And I love how Trump's children aren't accused of violent felonies like Biden's are, and I love how Trump's children aren't druggies either,
    like Biden's are.


    Trump's family all well adjusted... Biden's family... all messed up... Joe even showered with his daughter with his daughter and has a grandchild he's never bothered to talk to.

    Things aren't finished... I say they talk Joe into quitting, not do a second term, and he pardons Hunter and the rest of his crime family on the way out the door.

    we'll see how it plays out!!1

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 12 07:14:56 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    Like Donald... Hunter can appeal his conviction... but because Hunter's conviction was based on facts and didn't have reversible decisions made
    by a corrupt judge... Hunter's conviction will remain and Trump's will
    be overturned...

    But the appeals won't happen until after the election.

    Until then, the Elitists can call Trump a "Convicted Felon". Hunter can go back under his rock (where he normally would have been at this time to keep him quiet) while the Elitits can cry "See, we don't have a two tiered system of justice!"


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 12 06:17:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    And I love how Trump's children aren't accused of violent felonies like Biden's are, and I love how Trump's children aren't druggies either,
    like Biden's are.

    Have you seen Don Jr. on video lately? We all have, he's tweaking
    *hard*.



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 12 09:14:44 2024
    On 12 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    But the appeals won't happen until after the election.

    Until then, the Elitists can call Trump a "Convicted Felon". Hunter can go back under his rock (where he normally would have been at this time
    to keep him quiet) while the Elitits can cry "See, we don't have a two tiered system of justice!"


    This true... There was a Law Professor on YouTube talking about how this can be visited before hand...

    Trumps already pushing the Merch about being a convicted felon... I need to update my Trump merch so I'll be looking for my Felon garb.

    I do not want to see Democrat Style justice brought onto the Democrats once Trump gets into office but we need to look into a few things... Starting with the DOJ/FBI/CIA...

    We'll see...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 12 13:42:02 2024
    And I love how Trump's children aren't accused of violent felonies li Biden's are, and I love how Trump's children aren't druggies either, like Biden's are.

    Have you seen Don Jr. on video lately? We all have, he's tweaking
    *hard*.

    I doubt it. Where's the video of that?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 12 19:54:57 2024
    On 12 Jun 2024, IB Joe said the following...

    On 12 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    But the appeals won't happen until after the election.

    Until then, the Elitists can call Trump a "Convicted Felon". Hunter c
    go back under his rock (where he normally would have been at this time
    to keep him quiet) while the Elitits can cry "See, we don't have a two
    tiered system of justice!"


    This true... There was a Law Professor on YouTube talking about how this can be visited before hand...

    Trumps already pushing the Merch about being a convicted felon... I need to update my Trump merch so I'll be looking for my Felon garb.
    Let me know where to get some of the good stuff.
    I will wear it the right kind of pride.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 12 17:21:10 2024
    Re: Re: OMG
    By: Aaron Thomas to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 12 2024 01:42 pm


    Have you seen Don Jr. on video lately? We all have, he's tweaking *hard*.

    I doubt it. Where's the video of that?

    Everywhere.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 12 19:05:02 2024
    Have you seen Don Jr. on video lately? We all have, he's tweaking *h

    I doubt it. Where's the video of that?

    Everywhere.

    I've seen people tweaking before. People high on meth? It affects different people in different ways. It can be difficult to tell if someone is on it.

    What symptoms does Don Jr have? Is he moving in slow-motion? Does he have scabs on his face? Or is he getting kicked out of sex clubs? Or lying on gun applications?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 13 07:10:33 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I do not want to see Democrat Style justice brought onto the Democrats once Trump gets into office but we need to look into a few things... Starting with the DOJ/FBI/CIA...

    And something occured to me later yesterday.

    Hunter's gun charges are Hunter only. But they are still ignoring the evidence on the laptop because that will implicate The Big Guy.

    So I think we see the real reason behind Hunter's conviction: A distraction to have us stop looking at the laptop and the evidence of crimes it represents.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 13 05:42:08 2024
    On 13 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    And something occured to me later yesterday.

    Hunter's gun charges are Hunter only. But they are still ignoring the evidence on the laptop because that will implicate The Big Guy.

    So I think we see the real reason behind Hunter's conviction: A distraction to have us stop looking at the laptop and the evidence of crimes it represents.


    And I've heard nothing but chatter on this exact topic. Now that they have used the Laptop in this current trial they cannot claim this is Russian disinformation...

    If you start to unravel that ball of yarn it could take down more than Biden... Who knew what and when did they know it. Barry and Mike are quite wealthy... I have questions!!!!

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 13 09:35:24 2024
    Hello Aaron!

    11 Jun 24 13:40, you wrote to IB Joe:

    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY
    OF ALL THREE FELONIES

    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. I don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but
    not in Delaware?


    Or, what my theory presupposes, maybe neither jury was "bribed"? Perhaps both outcomes are the justice system working as intended?



    And I love how Trump's children aren't accused of violent felonies
    like Biden's are, and I love how Trump's children aren't druggies
    either, like Biden's are.


    There is no way Don Jr. isn't on something. and Eric seems to have killed just about every brain cell he had. Or maybe that was done for him before he was born.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 13 09:49:12 2024
    On 13 Jun 2024, Mike Miller said the following...


    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY
    OF ALL THREE FELONIES

    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but not in Delaware?

    Or, what my theory presupposes, maybe neither jury was "bribed"? Perhaps both outcomes are the justice system working as intended?


    That sounds like you purposefully looking the other way...

    After Trump's conviction came...

    Senator Joe Manchin, a life long Democrat, changed his party affiliation from Democrat to Independent sighting the NY Lawfare verdict.

    Alan Dershowitz, a constitutional scholar and legal expert also changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Independent and claimed that he's never seen such corruption, judge and DA, in his 60 ++ years of law.

    John Fetterman, a sitting Democrat senator, has spoken out against the Lawfare that is going on against Trump. He claimed that he use to consider himself progressive until he was able to witness first what the left is doing to the country. During this interview with Bill Maher, John pointed out how stupid the Progressive Left is... The Queers for Palestine group was blocking the Gay Pride Parade, and visa versa... Instead of breaking out in some kind of Gay-Queer love fest they almost broke into a brawl.

    Even Bill Maher LOLed. Fetterman said the progressive movement left him and not the other way around.

    Trump's case was fraught with reversible actions on the Judges behalf... Trump's case will eventually be overturned because of the Judge and DA.

    I think, personally, Hunter's case should be overturned because it doesn't say anywhere in the 2nd amendment that you can't be a junky.

    I hear that the Bidens are looking to appeal his conviction based on that logic... Meanwhile Joe and the Democrats are trying to restrict legal gun owner's rights while Hunter runs a muck


    There is no way Don Jr. isn't on something. and Eric seems to have killed just about every brain cell he had. Or maybe that was done for
    him before he was born.


    Post a link to the video of Don Jr twerking... And if any of these kids have brain damage it was because of the exceptionally tight VJ their mother had...

    Trump kids are well adjusted and Trump didn't shower with his daughters..

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 13 10:22:14 2024
    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but not in Delaware?

    Or, what my theory presupposes, maybe neither jury was "bribed"? Perhaps both outcomes are the justice system working as intended?

    No, but you helped me figure this out: both juries were bribed, because both of the convictions help the Democrats. The Hunter conviction makes it look like, to idiots, that the justice system works. Plus, their voters have more sympathy for the guy with a son who has a gun related conviction than they do for a guy with a bank loan application conviction.

    If it's not bribery it's coercion. I wouldn't want to be one of those jurors getting visited by Oprah.

    There is no way Don Jr. isn't on something. and Eric seems to have killed just about every brain cell he had. Or maybe that was done for
    him before he was born.

    We can look at the Biden to Trump drugs ratio in a few different ways:
    1) Hunter is on video using drugs, Trump's children are not.
    2) Biden has record high fentanyl deaths. Trump had record low fentanyl deaths 3) Open borders bring more drugs, controlling the border brings less drugs.

    There is no way Don Jr. isn't on something. and Eric seems to have killed just about every brain cell he had. Or maybe that was done for
    him before he was born.

    Good luck getting people to believe that.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 13 12:37:52 2024
    Re: Re: OMG
    By: IB Joe to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 13 2024 09:49 am

    Trump kids are well adjusted and Trump didn't shower with his daughters..

    That we know of. I'm sure there were some water works with an Ivanka lookalike at Epstein's island.
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Miller on Thu Jun 13 22:48:59 2024
    On 13 Jun 2024, Mike Miller said the following...


    Hello Aaron!

    11 Jun 24 13:40, you wrote to IB Joe:

    BREAKING: Jurors Reach Verdict in Hunter Biden Gun Trial: GUILTY
    OF ALL THREE FELONIES

    It sounds good, and I like that we got this outcome in a blue state. I
    don't understand why the Democrats are able to bribe a jury in NY but not in Delaware?


    Or, what my theory presupposes, maybe neither jury was "bribed"? Perhaps both outcomes are the justice system working as intended?

    We have been told over and over again that Hunter's laptop was not real.
    Now he is the felon for committing real crimes and all the while concealing the truth and telling the world that he was innocent and that he was not crooked and did nothing wrong.
    Not with the Gun application or being on and using using illegal drugs.

    I suppose there is no wrong doing in accepting millions of dollars from foreigners from multiple countries such as China, Russia or Ukraine
    Hunter is guilty as Sin, and it will not go any easier for him in California for Tax Evasion. Sins of the Father (from Joe Biden) will be known. - in time.

    As as Trump is concerned - we have yet to learn what the charge is or what law it is that Trump allegedly broke or violated.
    The most it could of been was a misdemeanor which has expired years ago and yet this circus found a way to push it forward.

    The best legal professors and legal scholars have looked at this and they have provided their expert analysis and none of them agree that what happened in NYC with Trump was remotely legitimate.
    This case never should of seen the light of day in any court.

    It was and is a sham as well as a political prosecution on a political rival.
    I do not need you to agree at all with anything that stating here.
    The Majority of the globe already do. That is good enough for me.
    You will understand this also, the day after election day is when I predict it will hit you like a tidal wave.

    Furthermore, what makes more sense all of these keyboard warriors on the left or legal professors from Yale and Harvard?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 14 07:20:20 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    And I've heard nothing but chatter on this exact topic. Now that they have used the Laptop in this current trial they cannot claim this is Russian disinformation...

    Yup. But they are going to work their hardest to distract away from it for the election.

    The Elitists are in self-preservation mode now. They can't stop a Trump presidency and they know that they will be held accountable.

    I fully expect some of these people to quietly "go on vacation" and not come back after the election.

    If you start to unravel that ball of yarn it could take down more than Biden... Who knew what and when did they know it. Barry and Mike are quite wealthy... I have questions!!!!

    We all have questions. And we want to know who the bankrollers are. Because those people are the REAL threat. We don't know who they are, so we can't come after them and make sure that they don't try this again.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Jun 14 06:56:36 2024
    On 14 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    Yup. But they are going to work their hardest to distract away from it for the election.

    The Elitists are in self-preservation mode now. They can't stop a Trump presidency and they know that they will be held accountable.

    I fully expect some of these people to quietly "go on vacation" and not come back after the election.


    Go on vacation and stay there... There was an Asian guy on TV, ex DOJ something or other... He thinks should hit back with full out Lawfare against the Democrats. In his scenario you don't have to make up laws.

    Look into these's Soros funded idiots like Jack Smith et al... Maybe Bill Clinton... He made payments to women... Is there a woman in Russia that can't come home to the US because Joe wants to arrest her... He forced herself on him when he was a senator... Penetrated her with a finger and sniffed her hair.

    The Internet says Obama paid someone hush money to keep his gay sexlife out of the news.... Maybe we can find out how come Joan Rivers was murdered.

    He claims... and I was able to follow along... That until the democrats know what to expect if they keep it up ... they should squeezed into submission... and we'll have a case of Mutually Assured Destruction.

    We'll let the voters sort out who they want to vote for,

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Jun 14 06:52:00 2024
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    I suppose there is no wrong doing in accepting millions of dollars from foreigners from multiple countries such as China, Russia or Ukraine

    Just ask Jared and Ivanka. You'd need to include Saudi Arabia in the
    mix, too, because being in collusion to the tune of $2 billion with a
    regime that dismembered one of their own journalists.

    The best legal professors and legal scholars have looked at this and
    they have provided their expert analysis and none of them agree that
    what happened in NYC with Trump was remotely legitimate.

    Names?



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Jun 14 08:37:54 2024
    On 14 Jun 2024, Kurt Weiske said the following...


    The best legal professors and legal scholars have looked at this and they have provided their expert analysis and none of them agree that what happened in NYC with Trump was remotely legitimate.

    Names?


    Alan Dershowitz, changed his party affiliation as well.

    Jonathan Turley & Andrew McCarthy just to name a few.

    All of the three I just mentioned have impeccable backgrounds when it comes to Law and the Constitution... None, to my knowledge are even Trump supporters... As I said earlier Alan Dershowitz changed party affiliation because of the NY verdict... All are shocked with the Democrats use of Lawfare.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Jun 14 22:15:20 2024
    I suppose there is no wrong doing in accepting millions of dollars fr foreigners from multiple countries such as China, Russia or Ukraine

    Just ask Jared and Ivanka. You'd need to include Saudi Arabia in the
    mix, too, because being in collusion to the tune of $2 billion with a
    regime that dismembered one of their own journalists.

    A democrat way out in Oregon relying overwhelmingly on a story from newspaper that is attributed from The New York Times. I would worry to much about this.
    Not after the Democratic Party and their thirsty demon thirst for power.
    They have turned our Nation upside down and barley recognizable from what it was just a short time ago.

    As for the killing it's a different place over there with a culture much different than ours. nearly barbaric - but their super wealthy barbarians.
    Many do not give one hoot if your a Democrat or a Republican or for that matter an independent.

    I would not worry about Kushner. He has more then enough money.

    The best legal professors and legal scholars have looked at this and they have provided their expert analysis and none of them agree that what happened in NYC with Trump was remotely legitimate.

    Names?
    (As if you don't know)
    Ok just to name a few.
    Alan Dershowitz A Democrat who loves his craft of the law.
    More then his democratic ideologies.
    Harvard Law School
    Yale University

    Jonathan Turley
    American attorney, legal scholar, writer, commentator, and legal analyst in broadcast and print journalism.
    A professor at George Washington University Law School

    Gregg Jarrett
    He graduated magna cum laude from Claremont McKenna College in 1977 with a degree in political science.
    He graduated with a Juris Doctor degree from the University of California, Hastings College of the Law in 1980, and worked as a defense attorney for several years in San Francisco with the firm of Gordon & Rees.
    Jarrett has taught law as an adjunct professor at New York Law School and lectured at other law schools.

    You want me to go on?
    or do you want to talk about the G7 and Biden's performance it was a disaster, Video of Biden being escorted about like a puppy dog by his wife Jill. Looked like something from a old folks home commercial, visiting angels comes to mind. Totally Pathetic - Not to mention it screams Weakness!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 15 09:05:12 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Go on vacation and stay there... There was an Asian guy on TV, ex DOJ something or other... He thinks should hit back with full out Lawfare against the Democrats. In his scenario you don't have to make up laws.

    I completely agree. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander - as the old saying goes.

    But that's what's scaring the Dems right now. If we take back the gov't, they WILL be held accountable - and they know that the charges will stick.

    The Internet says Obama paid someone hush money to keep his gay sexlife out of the news.... Maybe we can find out how come Joan Rivers was murdered.

    We already know why. It just need to be proven.

    Not that I care about Joan Rivers, but the Elitists have to be held accountable for their crimes.

    He claims... and I was able to follow along... That until the democrats know what to expect if they keep it up ... they should squeezed into submission... and we'll have a case of Mutually Assured Destruction.

    I'd enjoy seeing 4 years of "Charge Democrats for all their crimes" and watch the liberal tears fall.

    We'll let the voters sort out who they want to vote for,

    We just have to make sure that the Elitists don't put their thumbs on the scales.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jun 15 15:39:16 2024
    Hello Kurt,

    Trump kids are well adjusted and Trump didn't shower with his daughters..

    That we know of. I'm sure there were some water works with an Ivanka lookalike at Epstein's island.

    Donald Trump did publicly say he wanted to fuck his daughter.
    Not a lookalike of his daughter, but his actual daughter. His
    other daughter ran away, as fast as she could, hoping never
    to be found.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 15 07:59:52 2024
    On 15 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    I completely agree. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander - as the old saying goes.

    But that's what's scaring the Dems right now. If we take back the
    gov't, they WILL be held accountable - and they know that the charges
    will stick.


    At least when the Republicans dish it out they won't have to use novel legal strategies and mental gymnastics to find a politician guilty.


    We already know why. It just need to be proven.

    Not that I care about Joan Rivers, but the Elitists have to be held accountable for their crimes.


    And now we have a poor cook who was off'd because he probably saw Mike's d!ck.


    I'd enjoy seeing 4 years of "Charge Democrats for all their crimes" and watch the liberal tears fall.


    Got my popcorn ready!!!


    We just have to make sure that the Elitists don't put their thumbs on the scales.


    They'll try... Trump's idea to make it too big to rig is a good idea. I don't recall who I was listening to the other day and they said... If Biden was to win, even legitimately, they'd have some explaining to do.... Because Biden is sooooooooo weak...

    I say we should celebrate right now... Biden didn't sh!t himself during the G7... at least that we know of.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 16 09:54:11 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They'll try... Trump's idea to make it too big to rig is a good idea.
    I don't recall who I was listening to the other day and they said... If Biden was to win, even legitimately, they'd have some explaining to
    do.... Because Biden is sooooooooo weak...

    All we need to do is something like the Electoral College within the state.

    Right now, big cities tilt things toward Democrats. If you look at a state like Michigan, it's Red - except for the big cities. If each, say, county got 1 vote and whoever won the popular vote in that county, the Dems would never exist anymore.

    But this is something we need to pay attention to: The Elitists always subvert whatever group is successful. They long ago infiltrated the Catholic Church. The infiltrated the Democrats. They infiltrated the Republicans.

    Their main MO is to let a group get established, then slowly, quietly take over within, keeping the shell of what it used to be. People see that the group is the same, from outward appearance, and don't question what's going on.

    I say we should celebrate right now... Biden didn't sh!t himself during the G7... at least that we know of.

    They must have installed the leg-hugger version of the diaper.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 16 09:37:46 2024
    On 16 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    All we need to do is something like the Electoral College within the state.


    That is interesting... cool idea... It'll never happen because it'll through the Dems off their game...

    Because I'm a dual citizen, US and Canadian, I often wondered if the Electoral Collage setup could fix Canada's system. We have 2 large and mainly liberal Provinces who's votes sometimes overwhelm the other not-so liberal areas.

    I don't follow CDN politics... all I know is Trudeau Sucks... I have a friend who'll give me the Cole's Notes version regularly so I don't have to bother looking at 2 weak leaders under perform.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 16 10:42:36 2024
    But this is something we need to pay attention to: The Elitists always subvert whatever group is successful. They long ago infiltrated the Catholic Church. The infiltrated the Democrats. They infiltrated the Republicans.

    When Trump was president, the fathers at my church led us in prayers "for our leaders who make sacrifices to serve us," and I knew exactly who we were talking about. But in recent years, we don't collectively pray for "leaders
    who make sacrifices" and I'm sure it's because there are none currently in office.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 16 08:15:00 2024
    Ron L. wrote to IB Joe <=-

    All we need to do is something like the Electoral College within the state.

    One person, one vote. We need LESS electoral colleges, not MORE!

    Right now, big cities tilt things toward Democrats. If you look at a state like Michigan, it's Red - except for the big cities. If each,
    say, county got 1 vote and whoever won the popular vote in that county, the Dems would never exist anymore.

    Cities don't vote, people do.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 17 07:21:59 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They'll try... Trump's idea to make it too big to rig is a good idea.
    I don't recall who I was listening to the other day and they said... If Biden was to win, even legitimately, they'd have some explaining to
    do.... Because Biden is sooooooooo weak...

    All we need to do is something like the Electoral College within the state.

    Right now, big cities tilt things toward Democrats. If you look at a state like Michigan, it's Red - except for the big cities. If each, say, county got 1 vote and whoever won the popular vote in that county, the Dems would never exist anymore.

    But this is something we need to pay attention to: The Elitists always subvert whatever group is successful. They long ago infiltrated the Catholic Church. The infiltrated the Democrats. They infiltrated the Republicans.

    Their main MO is to let a group get established, then slowly, quietly take over within, keeping the shell of what it used to be. People see that the group is the same, from outward appearance, and don't question what's going on.

    I say we should celebrate right now... Biden didn't sh!t himself during the G7... at least that we know of.

    They must have installed the leg-hugger version of the diaper.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Jun 17 07:21:59 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Something that no one cares about.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ron L. on Mon Jun 17 08:38:00 2024
    Ron L. wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Something that no one cares about.

    Did you ask them? Everyone?



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 17 08:47:00 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Ron L. <=-

    Because I'm a dual citizen, US and Canadian, I often wondered if the Electoral Collage setup could fix Canada's system. We have 2 large and mainly liberal Provinces who's votes sometimes overwhelm the other
    not-so liberal areas.

    People vote, not provinces. Trust me, you don't want an electoral
    college in this day and age. The electoral college was created because
    our founding fathers had concerns about citizens having the ability to
    be educated on the issues and candidates.

    We certainly have the ability for each citizen to be educated. Whether
    they choose to do so is not as certain.






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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jun 17 08:47:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron L. <=-

    When Trump was president, the fathers at my church led us in prayers
    "for our leaders who make sacrifices to serve us," and I knew exactly
    who we were talking about.

    What sacrifices specifically are you referring to?




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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Jun 17 16:56:06 2024
    On 17 Jun 2024, Kurt Weiske said the following...


    People vote, not provinces. Trust me, you don't want an electoral
    college in this day and age. The electoral college was created because
    our founding fathers had concerns about citizens having the ability to
    be educated on the issues and candidates.


    I am familiar with both and I prefer the US being a Constitutional Republic over a mob rules full out Democracy. I know both systems and I prefer the US over Canada's political system.


    We certainly have the ability for each citizen to be educated. Whether
    they choose to do so is not as certain.


    I wish people were getting educated now... My grandson starts University next September... Where I went... I wonder if they'll try to brain wash him.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jun 18 05:42:44 2024
    When Trump was president, the fathers at my church led us in prayers "for our leaders who make sacrifices to serve us," and I knew exactly who we were talking about.

    What sacrifices specifically are you referring to?

    Trump sacrificed everything to be president. He's been the victim of organized bribery and lawfare, people have spread slanderous rumors about him, and he even had $175 million dollars taken from him in a lawfare style robbery, but he keeps ticking, thanks to our prayers.

    I don't know if the rest of my church is doing it, but I'm still praying for Trump every day. For his health, his sanity, and for him to fix our country once more.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jun 18 06:36:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Trump sacrificed everything to be president. He's been the victim of organized bribery and lawfare, people have spread slanderous rumors
    about him, and he even had $175 million dollars taken from him in a lawfare style robbery, but he keeps ticking, thanks to our prayers.

    I suppose one man's "robbery" is another man's "tax fraud".



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jun 18 17:38:07 2024
    People vote, not provinces. Trust me, you don't want an electoral
    college in this day and age. The electoral college was created because
    our founding fathers had concerns about citizens having the ability to
    be educated on the issues and candidates.

    I think we still need it....

    We certainly have the ability for each citizen to be educated. Whether
    they choose to do so is not as certain.

    ...because the schools, and now the internet, sure are not helping people learn much of anything of value, much less about "the issues and candidates." The Internet, if anything, has given those who are prone to belief in conspiracy theories even more of an opportunity to get suckered.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jun 18 17:39:27 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron L. <=-

    When Trump was president, the fathers at my church led us in prayers "for our leaders who make sacrifices to serve us," and I knew exactly who we were talking about.

    What sacrifices specifically are you referring to?

    If I had heard that, I would have assumed those in our military, which would rule out most politicians.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jun 18 18:57:30 2024
    Trump sacrificed everything to be president. He's been the victim of organized bribery and lawfare, people have spread slanderous rumors about him, and he even had $175 million dollars taken from him in a lawfare style robbery, but he keeps ticking, thanks to our prayers.

    I suppose one man's "robbery" is another man's "tax fraud".

    Yea, except there's no "tax fraud." It's more like "One man's robbery is another man's lie on a bank loan application."

    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 18 19:00:18 2024
    When Trump was president, the fathers at my church led us in praye "for our leaders who make sacrifices to serve us," and I knew exac who we were talking about.

    What sacrifices specifically are you referring to?

    If I had heard that, I would have assumed those in our military, which would rule out most politicians.

    I'm definitely not quoting the priest properly, but it was something like "for our government leaders."

    A prayer for members of the military and their families is a great idea too, but it just wasn't about that.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 19 07:14:14 2024
    On 18 Jun 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.


    Property values for tax purposes are done at the country level, they have their way to assess value. BTW, Florida can't increase your taxes more than 3% a year... So the old lady living next next to you, who has owned her house for 50 years might be paying only $500 a year in property tax where as you are paying $2,000 a year. If she sells her house the new owner will be paying the new and improved taxes.

    Everyday in Real Estate you have people saying their property is worth X and the buyer says Y and they meet somewhere in between... Or for heaven's sake... during a seller's market they might agree to a price higher than the asking price.

    Banks almost always represent themselves in any transaction. They'll get an appraisal and negotiate from their own perspective. The rate the bank charges will, usually, be based on the person willingness to repay the loan... So Trump might get one rate where as you might get an other.

    BTW, I heard Trump berried his Ex-Wife, the mother of his 3 oldest children, at his golf course in New Jersey... Around the first hole.... I heard that in doing so there may be some tax formability... like no property taxes... and because he did this the county/state cannot foreclose... This is what I heard...

    Every day and every where in the world real estate transaction are settle where the seller says price X buyer feels it's Y and they settle on price Z and the bank will lend the money to the buyer/developer based on their own assessment and they'll offer a rate to that buyer/developer based on their credit worthiness.

    It's all a scam and after non-partisan courts review this it'll be overturned. Mainly because if this is the new way of doing business in NY nobody with money would want to take their money there.

    In fact Trump should pull all his money out of NY, the ungrateful asses.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 19 06:31:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.

    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and
    choose which crimes to do.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 19 09:46:57 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.

    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and choose which crimes to do.

    Wasn't the "hush money" crime that he claimed the payment(s) as business expenses and, later, losses on his tax returns, i.e. more tax fraud?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jun 19 08:49:34 2024
    On 19 Jun 2024, Kurt Weiske said the following...


    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and choose which crimes to do.


    Can you site the law??

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 20 08:29:46 2024
    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.


    Property values for tax purposes are done at the country level, they
    have their way to assess value. BTW, Florida can't increase your taxes more than 3% a year... So the old lady living next next to you, who has owned her house for 50 years might be paying only $500 a year in
    property tax where as you are paying $2,000 a year. If she sells her house the new owner will be paying the new and improved taxes.

    Wasn't this about a NY property? Or is it a Florida property that Leticia James is all sad about?

    Banks almost always represent themselves in any transaction. They'll
    get an appraisal and negotiate from their own perspective. The rate the bank charges will, usually, be based on the person willingness to repay the loan... So Trump might get one rate where as you might get an other.

    But how else would the bank make a loan decision? They need to always carefully check every piece of the loan application, and if they don't, then it's their own fault when they get stiffed, to some extent, but of course they can sue their customer if he doesn't pay.

    BTW, I heard Trump berried his Ex-Wife, the mother of his 3 oldest children, at his golf course in New Jersey... Around the first hole....
    I heard that in doing so there may be some tax formability... like no property taxes... and because he did this the county/state cannot foreclose... This is what I heard...

    It sounds interesting. If that can be done, then I don't know why more people wouldn't get buried on private property?

    It's all a scam and after non-partisan courts review this it'll be overturned. Mainly because if this is the new way of doing business in
    NY nobody with money would want to take their money there.

    It's bad enough just being a resident here and seeing through all their BS. If I owned a business here, I'd worry about supporting Trump publicly because Democrats could infiltrate the various regulation offices, they could infiltrate the various insurances that my business may have, they could sour my businesses relations with other businesses. Lots of dirty tricks are possible.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Jun 20 08:34:00 2024
    Trump did the opposite of tax fraud. Overvaluing a property appraisal would ultimately mean overpaying on property taxes.

    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and choose which crimes to do.

    Even if this were true, it's still better than letting 11 children die in Afghanistan, letting more than 3000 people die along the us-mexico border, and admitting more than 7 million people into the country without background checks and without reason.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 20 06:24:00 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and choose which crimes to do.


    Can you site the law??

    "Cite". The word you're looking for it "Cite".




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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 20 09:19:26 2024
    On 20 Jun 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Wasn't this about a NY property? Or is it a Florida property that
    Leticia James is all sad about?


    What I explained is Florida's take on property taxes. BTW, I heard that Trump used his Homestead Exemption in Florida... I heard it on the news... I don't know personally... BUT it made sense... Florida's Homestead exemption allows you to receive lower property taxes on your primary residence... If you are a snowbird and you have a property up north and one in Florida you cannot claim the one up north as a primary residence as well.

    BTW, properties that are homesteaded in Florida exempt from bankruptcy and other forms of financial seizures... IRS or otherwise. Now if Trump used Mar A Lago to secure a loan... That's an other story... BUT if it wasn't used to secure a loan NY won't get his Homesteaded property any time soon.


    But how else would the bank make a loan decision? They need to always carefully check every piece of the loan application, and if they don't, then it's their own fault when they get stiffed, to some extent, but of course they can sue their customer if he doesn't pay.


    Banks use their own appraisers and their own methods... A lot is subjective as well. Subjective part is that Trump is worth Billions and he's been in the bank during prior visits borrowed 100s of millions of dollars and paid those loans off.... It's the totality of all that gets you a loan.

    Recall the NY case the banks said they loved doing business with Trump because he always paid back his loans and that Trump also stated on all his documents that the banks should use their own appraisers to make their own estimates on the property values... Like its done every day all over the world.


    It sounds interesting. If that can be done, then I don't know why more people wouldn't get buried on private property?


    My thoughts exactly... I heard this from some left wing news source... I don't know if Trump will push the envelope on this. This was the mother of his 3 oldest kids... He's more than likely just paying her respect...

    We'll see how this unfolds.


    It's bad enough just being a resident here and seeing through all their BS. If I owned a business here, I'd worry about supporting Trump
    publicly because Democrats could infiltrate the various regulation offices, they could infiltrate the various insurances that my business
    may have, they could sour my businesses relations with other businesses. Lots of dirty tricks are possible.


    Yup... I think the Democrats will only stop if they feel the pain... All large business should leave New York... Recently they opened up a stock exchange in Texas... All these financial firms should move their HOs there... They'll save a Sh!t load of money in taxes alone, never mind a reduction in regulations.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Jun 20 09:21:18 2024
    On 20 Jun 2024, Kurt Weiske said the following...

    "Cite". The word you're looking for it "Cite".


    okay... Cite.... please cite...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Jun 20 10:15:54 2024
    Can you site the law??

    "Cite". The word you're looking for it "Cite".

    "is" is the word you're looking for.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 20 10:30:54 2024
    Banks use their own appraisers and their own methods... A lot is subjective as well. Subjective part is that Trump is worth Billions
    and he's been in the bank during prior visits borrowed 100s of millions
    of dollars and paid those loans off.... It's the totality of all that
    gets you a loan.

    And if the bank doesn't like the interest they earned, then they can give it back.

    My thoughts exactly... I heard this from some left wing news source... I don't know if Trump will push the envelope on this. This was the mother of his 3 oldest kids... He's more than likely just paying her respect...

    They make up a lot of stuff about Trump. It could be another one of those stories.

    Yup... I think the Democrats will only stop if they feel the pain... All large business should leave New York... Recently they opened up a stock

    New York has a pattern of having businesses leave, and people who are conscientious about the economy realize this, but ignorant people don't think
    it's bad that (for example) the shopping mall in Johnson City has been converted into a new and improved welfare office.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jun 20 13:45:48 2024
    On 20 Jun 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    And if the bank doesn't like the interest they earned, then they can
    give it back.


    That is not the case. The Bank(s) all testified that they loved doing business with Trump and would do it again in the future.

    There was no victim here... Everyone but the partisan hack Judge and DA had their feelings hurt...


    They make up a lot of stuff about Trump. It could be another one of those stories.


    It could be... I didn't dig that deep into it... Doesn't affect me so...


    New York has a pattern of having businesses leave, and people who are conscientious about the economy realize this, but ignorant people don't think it's bad that (for example) the shopping mall in Johnson City has been converted into a new and improved welfare office.


    The problem with money is it can move. Someone who has a life... Church they go to... Kids in School... all that stuff... They cannot just pickup and go. Where as money can.

    Look what's happening in California... Raise minimum wage to 20 an hour... 10,000 people get laid off... 1000s of places close and the owners will open new places where the regulations aren't so stupid.

    Now kids will have a hard time getting a "first" job if an employer has to pay them stupid wages...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 20 15:04:02 2024
    The problem with money is it can move. Someone who has a life... Church they go to... Kids in School... all that stuff... They cannot just
    pickup and go. Where as money can.

    People who vote Democrat are excited about being forced to move to the Philippines to keep their jobs, and they don't care that there are other
    Americans who don't want to move there. (But knowing what I know now about Biden destroying America, I probably should have gave the Philippines a try!)

    Now kids will have a hard time getting a "first" job if an employer has
    to pay them stupid wages...

    Minimum wage is an election game that the Democrats know how to play.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to All on Fri Jun 21 07:26:11 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to IB Joe <=-

    Can you site the law??

    "Cite". The word you're looking for it "Cite".

    Actually the word is "misdirection". But we could accept the "redirection" and "distraction".

    Of course, he could have used his worthless English Degree, **and** cited the law he was asked to.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 21 07:26:11 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    Yup... I think the Democrats will only stop if they feel the pain...
    All large business should leave New York...

    They pretty much did.

    The scamdemic showed that they didn't need those big office buildings anymore. And their employees worked much better at home. Not only that, but by not being geographically constrained, they had a **much** larger pool of applicants for their jobs.

    Now that the big office building was gone, it's an easy step toward moving the business to a state with lower taxes and just renting office space when needed.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Jun 21 06:18:54 2024
    On 21 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    They pretty much did.

    The scamdemic showed that they didn't need those big office buildings anymore. And their employees worked much better at home. Not only
    that, but by not being geographically constrained, they had a **much** larger pool of applicants for their jobs.

    Now that the big office building was gone, it's an easy step toward
    moving the business to a state with lower taxes and just renting office space when needed.


    If you are a large business there is no reason to be there... After seeing California devolve the same will happen to NY and Chicago and the like.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 22 08:23:23 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    If you are a large business there is no reason to be there... After seeing California devolve the same will happen to NY and Chicago and
    the like.

    And while they may not be saying it, they are certainly thinking about it and trying to get rid of their real estate as soon as they can.

    The cities certainly lose a great deal by having fewer people working in the city because of less taxes.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 22 08:40:44 2024
    On 22 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    And while they may not be saying it, they are certainly thinking about
    it and trying to get rid of their real estate as soon as they can.

    The cities certainly lose a great deal by having fewer people working in the city because of less taxes.


    The Democrats survive on other people's money... Even if you had to keep some of your operations in NY and you moved your Head Office out of NY, in doing so you moved where you pay taxes.

    Elon moved his operations from California because of the COVID BS... and look what they lost... If Elon has to leave buildings empty in California it's still better not to have to pay stupid sums of money in taxes and regulations.

    If I was a large business owner and cared about my bottom line. I would not move to a Blue State... almost any of them...

    There is still some America Dream left to fight for. I do feel we are on the cusp of America failing... But lets get back to our roots... Individual freedoms and Individual Rights, get the government out of everyone's faces... here in the US and every other country out there.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jun 22 20:14:50 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    The problem with money is it can move.

    So where does it go? Anywhere you want it to. Unless someone
    else takes it before you do. So please. Grab it while you can.

    Someone who has a life...

    Everybody has a life and would be happy to spend your money.

    Church they go to...

    Spending on others is what they do best.

    Kids in School...

    School lunch programs should be more than macaroni and cheese.

    all that stuff...

    Plus ketchup. Gotta have kttchup. On everything.

    They cannot just pickup and go.

    Where as money can.

    That is the fallacy of our times. Everything ought to be free.
    That is what our kids have been taught at skool, and that is the
    way things should always be. No more money needed for anuthing,
    or to do anything.

    People who vote Democrat are excited about being forced to move to the Philippines to keep their jobs,

    That is categorically NOT TRUE! Those brown-skinned gals are the
    most beautiful creations in the known universe! Just take one look
    at Nikki Haley and you will know what I mean!

    and they don't care that there are other Americans who don't want to move there.

    Nikki loves her new home in South Carolina. Although she does admit
    to having an itch to live in a White House rather than a Brown House.

    (But knowing what I know now about Biden destroying America, I probably should have gave the Philippines a try!)

    President Marcos still resides in the same place as the other
    President Marcos did decades ago - in Malacanong Palace. Nice digs.
    With plenty of space for his mother to keep her shoes.

    Now kids will have a hard time getting a "first" job if an employer has
    to pay them stupid wages...

    Minimum wage is an election game that the Democrats know how to play.

    Sweden has no minimum wage. Are you in favor of eliminating a program
    that was started by FDR? The minimum wage in the USA began at 25 cents
    an hour in 1935, and has increased to $7.25 an hour today, where it
    has remained for the past 14 years. The vast majority of Americans
    earn far more than the federally mandated minimum wage, and tipped
    employees make a minimum wage far less at $2.13 an hour. That is how
    sick our society is.

    A minimum wage was created in the USA as a means to do away with
    sweat shops, in which employees were paid slave wages in order to
    work. Imagine trying to feed a family on less than what prisoners
    make on a farm. Yes, we still do have involuntary servitude in
    this country. And it is constitutional.

    For Life,
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 23 09:46:36 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The Democrats survive on other people's money... Even if you had to
    keep some of your operations in NY and you moved your Head Office out
    of NY, in doing so you moved where you pay taxes.

    Yup. But, like I said, most of the taxes collected come from the employees.

    I remember many years ago, I worked for a company who's office was outside the city. We paid no city tax - because we didn't work in the city. Later we moved to a refurbished office building just in side the city limits. All of us got a 0.5% pay cut because we now had to pay city tax.

    My company, though, got a big tax cut from the city, so you know that the city made money on this deal - big time.

    Elon moved his operations from California because of the COVID BS...
    and look what they lost... If Elon has to leave buildings empty in California it's still better not to have to pay stupid sums of money in taxes and regulations.

    California taxes and regulations have been causing companies to flee for a long time now. It's just gotten much worse in recent years.

    There is still some America Dream left to fight for. I do feel we are
    on the cusp of America failing... But lets get back to our roots... Individual freedoms and Individual Rights, get the government out of everyone's faces... here in the US and every other country out there.

    My hope is that we can start dismanling the Deep State when Trump is elected. Putting a few of them in prison (or worse) will cause the rest to leave and stop causing problems.

    But, regardless, we will all need to be on our guard to never let this happen again.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 23 15:18:32 2024
    On 23 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    My company, though, got a big tax cut from the city, so you know that
    the city made money on this deal - big time.


    There was a town not fart from me in Florida that Walmart wanted to build a large Super Walmart... There is an organization out there that protests these kinds of openings... They convinces the town not to let Walmart to open their location... Walmart bought property a couple blocks away, literally, and built the store in county, not the city, the city lost all the tax revenue.

    I still LOL to this day about that.

    BTW, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is trying to eliminate state income tax in Arkansas... Go Red Team!!!


    My hope is that we can start dismanling the Deep State when Trump is elected. Putting a few of them in prison (or worse) will cause the rest to leave and stop causing problems.

    But, regardless, we will all need to be on our guard to never let this happen again.


    Trump's been talking about doing this... Starting with the federal involvement into the Education system

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 24 07:11:26 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There was a town not fart from me in Florida that Walmart wanted to
    build a large Super Walmart... There is an organization out there that protests these kinds of openings... They convinces the town not to let Walmart to open their location... Walmart bought property a couple
    blocks away, literally, and built the store in county, not the city,
    the city lost all the tax revenue.

    I used to work for Meijer and I saw this all the time.

    The Narcissists who run these organizations think that they can be in control of everything and can tell everyone what they have to do.

    BTW, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is trying to eliminate state income tax in Arkansas... Go Red Team!!!

    It's a start. Then maybe she can work on eliminating most regulations - mostly the ones that DIDN'T go through congress.

    But, regardless, we will all need to be on our guard to never let this happen again.

    Trump's been talking about doing this... Starting with the federal involvement into the Education system

    Yup. We need to eliminate the Dept. of Indoctrination....er... Education at the federal level - and at the state level as well.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Jun 24 10:07:36 2024
    On 24 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    Yup. We need to eliminate the Dept. of Indoctrination....er...
    Education at the federal level - and at the state level as well.


    As commie as Canada is education is, at least, at the Provincial level, and somewhat local. The educational Unions are provincial, educational boards are local level.

    A lot of these 3 letter organizations need to be dismantled and or neutered.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 25 07:13:47 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    As commie as Canada is education is, at least, at the Provincial level, and somewhat local. The educational Unions are provincial, educational boards are local level.

    A lot of these 3 letter organizations need to be dismantled and or neutered.

    Pretty much all of them. Part of the problem is the buearucracy has seized power that they aren't supposed to have.

    I don't know if you remember Pelosi's "We need to pass the bill to see what's in it." This was because the bill didn't enact any laws. Instead it (illegally) granted a gov't agency the power to, effectively, craft law.

    So the Elitists infiltrated the TLOs, then made them fireproof, then they pass laws that illegally give them authority.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 21 06:15:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    He overvalued the properties to secure financing, then undervalued the appraisals with regards to property taxes. Not that you get to pick and choose which crimes to do.

    Even if this were true, it's still better than letting 11 children die
    in Afghanistan, letting more than 3000 people die along the us-mexico border, and admitting more than 7 million people into the country
    without background checks and without reason.

    It's been proven in a court of law. If you want to look at body counts
    due to negligence of duty, look at the previous president.




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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 21 06:16:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Can you site the law??

    "Cite". The word you're looking for it "Cite".

    "is" is the word you're looking for.

    Is is, it, really?



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Jun 25 08:07:48 2024
    On 25 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...


    I don't know if you remember Pelosi's "We need to pass the bill to see what's in it." This was because the bill didn't enact any laws.
    Instead it (illegally) granted a gov't agency the power to, effectively, craft law.

    So the Elitists infiltrated the TLOs, then made them fireproof, then
    they pass laws that illegally give them authority.


    I recall that... I have been on a kick over the past few weeks reviewing videos on the constitution, the civil war, among other things. I have a great deal of respect for what the founding fathers were attempting.

    Anyway, They say that Republics don't seen to survive more that 250 years... Rome and Greece all fell in horrible ways. We may be approaching the same fate.

    There are things in the news that makes me think there's a chance. I hope for my children and grandchildren that we can pull out of this death-spiral... We'll see.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jun 25 08:54:58 2024
    Even if this were true, it's still better than letting 11 children di in Afghanistan, letting more than 3000 people die along the us-mexico border, and admitting more than 7 million people into the country without background checks and without reason.

    It's been proven in a court of law. If you want to look at body counts
    due to negligence of duty, look at the previous president.

    You're just like Beavis and Butthead when Butthead says "That was like, other kids."

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 26 07:20:30 2024
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I recall that... I have been on a kick over the past few weeks
    reviewing videos on the constitution, the civil war, among other
    things. I have a great deal of respect for what the founding fathers
    were attempting.

    They did a good job. But I don't think they thought of what the Elitists are doing today.

    Anyway, They say that Republics don't seen to survive more that 250 years... Rome and Greece all fell in horrible ways. We may be
    approaching the same fate.

    Figure the first 150 years you have people who lived pre-republic or who personally knew people who lived then. So they are on the alert. Then it probably takes another 100 years for the Elitists to slowly subvert all the instututions and destroy things.

    Part of our problem today is that we have too many people who were insulated from the realities of life (ex: liberal women). Plus we have too many people who didn't EARN their wealth. That's not a good combination.

    Sadly, I don't have a good idea to correct the problems.

    There are things in the news that makes me think there's a chance. I
    hope for my children and grandchildren that we can pull out of this death-spiral... We'll see.

    If we do pull out of it, it will probably just reset the 250 year clock.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 26 08:47:26 2024
    On 26 Jun 2024, Ron L. said the following...

    If we do pull out of it, it will probably just reset the 250 year clock.


    I remain hopeful.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 26 08:47:00 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    You're just like Beavis and Butthead when Butthead says "That was like, other kids."

    Republicans have cornered the market on Whataboutism.



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to All on Tue Jul 23 07:30:42 2024
    Headline...
    Report: Las Vegas Hospital Was Put on Standby for Sudden Biden Medical Issue Last Wednesday, Instead, Air Force One Flew to Delaware So Fast "the Plane Shook"

    From MTG Social Media...

    Joe Biden is rumored to have had a medical event in LV Nevada after being diagnosed with Covid then dropped out of race and is no where to be seen.

    Now they have propped up Kamala Harris without any Democrat voters casting a single vote.

    What is going on???

    Who is doing this???

    Who is running the country???


    Interesting times...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Tue Jul 23 10:38:00 2024
    Headline...
    Report: Las Vegas Hospital Was Put on Standby for Sudden Biden Medical Issue Last Wednesday, Instead, Air Force One Flew to Delaware So Fast "the Plane Shook"

    From MTG Social Media...

    MTG is not a good source of much...

    Joe Biden is rumored to have had a medical event in LV Nevada after being diagnosed with Covid then dropped out of race and is no where to be seen.

    The same people pushing this story today are the same ones that were
    showing video of him getting off the plane in Deleware and calling him a hypocrite for not wearing a mask.

    Now they have propped up Kamala Harris without any Democrat voters casting a single vote.

    That was easy to predict.

    What is going on???

    Who is doing this???

    Who is running the country???

    Same folks that gave us a dementia patient as a candidate in 2020, and that have run the country since.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Jul 23 10:26:18 2024
    On 23 Jul 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    From MTG Social Media...

    MTG is not a good source of much...


    Well I was waiting to hear from the WH Press Secretary...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 24 07:43:11 2024
    IB Joe wrote to All <=-

    Joe Biden is rumored to have had a medical event in LV Nevada after
    being diagnosed with Covid then dropped out of race and is no where to
    be seen.

    Joe16 had a fault. So they had to bring him back to the clone center, decant Joe17 and copy his memories (what little are left) over.

    That's why Joe can't remember things: Error in the memory copy.

    Now they have propped up Kamala Harris without any Democrat voters
    casting a single vote.

    What is going on???

    They are trying to steal the election again.

    Who is doing this???

    The same people as before. Unknown, faceless Elitists who pull strings
    from behind the scenes. They want to take us back to feudal times.

    Who is running the country???

    The same people as before. They just don't have a puppet to show people.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Jul 24 09:58:00 2024
    From MTG Social Media...

    MTG is not a good source of much...

    Well I was waiting to hear from the WH Press Secretary...

    LOL, good luck there.

    Supposedly, Biden is going to address the nation sometime today.


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