• McCarthy / Gaetz

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to All on Tue Oct 3 07:18:43 2023
    The media is squawking about Rep. Gaetz' motion to fire Kevin McCarthy.

    The narrative (brainwashing signal) is that Matt Gaetz is "all about himself" and that "he wants to be speaker."

    But we can all see through that nonsense, right?

    45 days means 450,000 more migrants, and that's just in 1 Texas town.

    Kevin McCarthy should be recognized as the GOP speaker of the house who supported child sex trafficking for a whole year, and when he had a chance to put an end to it, he chose to allow it for at least an additional 45 days.

    It would be very stupid for us to believe that the border will be addressed in 45 days. It won't!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Oct 3 08:44:00 2023
    Kevin McCarthy should be recognized as the GOP speaker of the house who suppor
    d child sex trafficking for a whole year, and when he had a chance to put an e
    to it, he chose to allow it for at least an additional 45 days.

    It would be very stupid for us to believe that the border will be addressed in
    5 days. It won't!

    It won't, that is true, but I am not sure I understand how letting the government shutdown would have helped it, either. My feelings are that
    a goverment shutdown could leave the boarder even less guarded than it is now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Tue Oct 3 14:57:57 2023
    It would be very stupid for us to believe that the border will be addres in
    5 days. It won't!

    It won't, that is true, but I am not sure I understand how letting the government shutdown would have helped it, either. My feelings are that
    a goverment shutdown could leave the boarder even less guarded than it
    is now.

    I understand your point, but McCarthy is leaving the border stay open for too long, and if we don't play hardball with him like Gaetz is doing, then he's going to keep pretending that he don't know how to fix the border, and he's going to let Democrats scamper off with more money.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Oct 4 07:23:44 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    It would be very stupid for us to believe that the border will be addressed in 45 days. It won't!

    No, it won't. It won't be addressed until the Elitists are removed from power.

    McCarthy reneged on his promises to get elected Speaker, so Gaetz was completely correct in filing the motion to get him removed.

    McCarthy has demonstrated that he's in the Uniparty and should be expelled just like Fire Chief Bowman.

    Side note: Has anyone noticed how quickly the Bowman crime has faded from nearly all news sites?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Oct 4 06:42:16 2023
    McCarthy reneged on his promises to get elected Speaker, so Gaetz was completely correct in filing the motion to get him removed.

    Yea he didn't do enough, not fast enough. Everything is a mess, and he has
    made it clear to the elites that a Republican congress is not as bad as it sounds.

    It seems weird that the Democrats voted against McCarthy, but I think it's reverse psychology at play; the Democrats want us to think that they were opposed to McCarthy's speakership, when really, they were enjoying it. Surely their votes against McCarthy were ordered by someone above them.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Wed Oct 4 12:04:00 2023
    Side note: Has anyone noticed how quickly the Bowman crime has faded from nearly all news sites?

    He thought the alarm lever, and not the door handle, would open the door.
    The MSM has probably bought that excuse so why cover it? :(


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Oct 4 12:16:00 2023
    It seems weird that the Democrats voted against McCarthy, but I think it's reve
    se psychology at play; the Democrats want us to think that they were opposed to
    McCarthy's speakership, when really, they were enjoying it. Surely their votes >gainst McCarthy were ordered by someone above them.

    The only way that'd be true would be if they think they can vote someone in
    who is even more on their side that you believe McCarthy to have been...
    and that is likely what we will wind up with.

    I think it is all a smoke screen... get rid of McCarthy so MAGA folks
    are happy. Meanwhile, until there is a new speaker, they can sit on their hands and not do anything because, legally, when there is a speaker vacancy they must elect one before they do anything else.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 5 07:42:47 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It seems weird that the Democrats voted against McCarthy, but I think
    it's reverse psychology at play; the Democrats want us to think that
    they were opposed to McCarthy's speakership, when really, they were enjoying it. Surely their votes against McCarthy were ordered by
    someone above them.

    *Everything* the Elitists do is ordered by someone above them. None of them can think, or act, for themselves.

    But this is still just a show to distract us.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 5 07:42:47 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Side note: Has anyone noticed how quickly the Bowman crime has faded from nearly all news sites?

    He thought the alarm lever, and not the door handle, would open the
    door. The MSM has probably bought that excuse so why cover it? :(

    I expected it from the MSM. "Just a Democrat performing an insurrection, nothing to see here."

    But it also dropped off the alternative news sources too.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Thu Oct 5 07:56:00 2023
    He thought the alarm lever, and not the door handle, would open the door. The MSM has probably bought that excuse so why cover it? :(

    I expected it from the MSM. "Just a Democrat performing an insurrection, nothing to see here."

    But it also dropped off the alternative news sources too.

    Interesting. Maybe they realized that no one was going to do anything
    about it so why bother? Or maybe they, too, are getting paid to cover
    other things.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 6 07:27:37 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Interesting. Maybe they realized that no one was going to do anything about it so why bother?

    If that's the case, why bother to report any of the Democrat crimes?

    For example, we're still waiting for the Democrat Operatives in Detroit that pulled out unvetted boxes of ballots and ran them through the tabulator - several times - to be charged.

    And, yes, this did happen. We have video evidence.

    Or maybe they, too, are getting paid to cover other things.

    Now that is disturbing.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Fri Oct 6 09:19:00 2023
    Interesting. Maybe they realized that no one was going to do anything about it so why bother?

    If that's the case, why bother to report any of the Democrat crimes?

    True.

    For example, we're still waiting for the Democrat Operatives in Detroit that pulled out unvetted boxes of ballots and ran them through the tabulator - several times - to be charged.

    And, yes, this did happen. We have video evidence.

    I don't doubt that too much.

    There is someone on one of the other networks I carry who has discussed,
    what he can, about his previous employment, which was apparently as a
    vendor or some other contractor with voting machines. He has expressed a
    lot of concern, not so much with people doing things obvious (like in
    Detroit) but with the government entities not being concerned enough with outside "actors" gaining access to the systems.

    That seems real odd since 2016 was all about foreign interferance, yet from
    the way he tells many clients have not really done much since then to prevent being hacked.

    Or maybe they, too, are getting paid to cover other things.

    Now that is disturbing.

    Indeed, but it is also possible.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 6 13:54:00 2023
    McCarthy's speakership, when really, they were enjoying it. Surely their >gainst McCarthy were ordered by someone above them.

    The only way that'd be true would be if they think they can vote someone in who is even more on their side that you believe McCarthy to have been... and that is likely what we will wind up with.

    You might be right but McCarthy dragged his feet for too long and I believe that the McCarthy ouster is at least delaying cash to Democrat pockets and I have to appreciate it for that reason.

    I think it is all a smoke screen... get rid of McCarthy so MAGA folks
    are happy. Meanwhile, until there is a new speaker, they can sit on
    their hands and not do anything because, legally, when there is a
    speaker vacancy they must elect one before they do anything else.

    But they wouldn't be doing anything anyway. Was McCarthy about to do anything significant to our benefit?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 7 09:00:27 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That seems real odd since 2016 was all about foreign interferance, yet from the way he tells many clients have not really done much since then
    to prevent being hacked.

    Elitists were never for actually doing something and typically did "crisis management" (i.e. don't do anything until it becomes a crisis) because to do something would draw off resources meant for their pockets.

    The whole "foreign interference" in 2016 was just an excuse why Hilary was soundly rejected by the voters. But I do think that was the start of the Elitists looking into how to subvert the voting process.

    Or maybe they, too, are getting paid to cover other things.
    Now that is disturbing.

    Indeed, but it is also possible.

    Very much so. And it's the reason that I don't blindly believe in any source.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Oct 7 09:23:00 2023
    I think it is all a smoke screen... get rid of McCarthy so MAGA folks are happy. Meanwhile, until there is a new speaker, they can sit on their hands and not do anything because, legally, when there is a speaker vacancy they must elect one before they do anything else.

    But they wouldn't be doing anything anyway. Was McCarthy about to do anything gnificant to our benefit?

    He kept the government running. If the government isn't running, that (to
    me) means the border is even less protected than it already is. Is that
    what we wanted? I don't think so.

    All the "RINO hunting" and other Republican infighting proves to
    non-loyalists is that the Republicans are not capable of leading. Do you
    think maybe not much significant was done because of this? I do.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Oct 7 09:15:00 2023
    That seems real odd since 2016 was all about foreign interferance, yet from the way he tells many clients have not really done much since then to prevent being hacked.

    Elitists were never for actually doing something and typically did "crisis management" (i.e. don't do anything until it becomes a crisis) because to do something would draw off resources meant for their pockets.

    I agree here. In lower levels of government, it is usually due to/blamed
    on lack of resources, so the idea is there is not a problem until something
    bad happens and it has to be dealt with.

    The whole "foreign interference" in 2016 was just an excuse why Hilary was soundly rejected by the voters. But I do think that was the start of the Elitists looking into how to subvert the voting process.

    I agree on both counts, but it seems odd (to me) that they are not really addressing real problems, for potential bad actor interference, that do
    exist.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 7 14:50:53 2023
    But they wouldn't be doing anything anyway. Was McCarthy about to do any gnificant to our benefit?

    He kept the government running. If the government isn't running, that
    (to me) means the border is even less protected than it already is. Is that what we wanted? I don't think so.

    You're technically right but we've had gov shutdowns before and from what I understand, essential departments still run during a shutdown. The president doesn't go home without pay during a shut-down, for example. I suspect that border patrol is considered essential. Federal prisons are essential; they won't release the prisoners just because of a shut-down.

    Right?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 8 09:31:51 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The whole "foreign interference" in 2016 was just an excuse why Hilary was soundly rejected by the voters. But I do think that was the start of the Elitists looking into how to subvert the voting process.

    I agree on both counts, but it seems odd (to me) that they are not
    really addressing real problems, for potential bad actor interference, that do exist.

    That's because they think that **they** are the bad actor that interferes.

    If they addressed the real problems, it would close off more avenues for them to cheat.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Oct 8 09:14:00 2023
    You're technically right but we've had gov shutdowns before and from what I un
    rstand, essential departments still run during a shutdown. The president doesn
    go home without pay during a shut-down, for example. I suspect that border pa
    ol is considered essential. Federal prisons are essential; they won't release e prisoners just because of a shut-down.

    Right?

    Some of that is right. However, shutdowns also mean that other essential personnel, like the Coast Guard, don't get paid. The Coast Guard protects
    our water borders. Drugs come in that way, too.

    I am not sure if Customs and Border Protection, and Federal prison guards,
    are also among those who are asked to work without pay. The President and Congress are NOT among those who don't get paid... Congress still gets paid during most shutdowns.

    I don't know about you but if I am working without pay, while Congress
    bickers and fights NOT to pay me while they get paid, I am not working too hard. If I were working for CBP, for example, it'd be a good day to cross wherever it is I am supposed to be patroling.

    Despite my leanings, it also is not going to make me too likely to vote for anyone of the party that caused the shutdown that caused me to work without pay.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sun Oct 8 09:09:00 2023
    The whole "foreign interference" in 2016 was just an excuse why Hilary was soundly rejected by the voters. But I do think that was the start of the Elitists looking into how to subvert the voting process.

    I agree on both counts, but it seems odd (to me) that they are not really addressing real problems, for potential bad actor interference, that do exist.

    That's because they think that **they** are the bad actor that interferes.

    If they addressed the real problems, it would close off more avenues for them to cheat.

    You've got me there... unfortunately.


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