• New Mexico & 2nd Amendment

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Mon Sep 11 10:05:33 2023
    The fact that the Feds changed/altered laws because of "COVID" allowing the DEMs to cheat in the 2020/2022 elections.

    So, the Governor in New Mexico is trying to user the COVID formula with the 2nd amendment in New Mexico by declaring a "Health" emergency and suspending the 2nd amendment.

    Democratic Governor in Virginia tried this... Kind of... in 2020 and the Dems got their but kicked there...

    https://youtu.be/AfsTxRcsf-Q?si=PPjmAto3HWB2Z-F4

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Tue Sep 12 09:25:40 2023
    So, the Governor in New Mexico is trying to user the COVID formula with the 2nd amendment in New Mexico by declaring a "Health" emergency and suspending the 2nd amendment.

    AFAIK, the order pertains to just the city of Albuquerque. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt (although she don't deserve it) and let's observe and see if the # of shootings in Albuquerque goes down from this "gun ban." (It won't.)

    Because all shootings stem from licensed gun owners, right? ;)

    She's not the smartest lady. Let's see if "statistics" work out well for her.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Sep 12 09:20:54 2023
    On 12 Sep 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    So, the Governor in New Mexico is trying to user the COVID formula wi the 2nd amendment in New Mexico by declaring a "Health" emergency and suspending the 2nd amendment.

    AFAIK, the order pertains to just the city of Albuquerque. Let's give
    her the benefit of the doubt (although she don't deserve it) and let's observe and see if the # of shootings in Albuquerque goes down from this "gun ban." (It won't.)

    Because all shootings stem from licensed gun owners, right? ;)

    She's not the smartest lady. Let's see if "statistics" work out well for her.

    Noooooooooooo.... no benefit of the doubt... Change the constitution... U can't suspend it... there is no suspend clause. Can you imagine what the Democrats would do if they could suspend the constitution with whatever emergency they come up with!!!!

    She needs to call in the national guard... and put them on every street corner where the problems are... She needs to have police arrest people for crimes they commit... She needs to tell prosecutors to add enhancements if they are using guns during those crimes... Mobilize the gang units and go after criminals doing the crimes with the guns...

    And leave law abiding citizens alone....

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Sep 13 01:16:52 2023
    Hello Joe,

    [..]

    Noooooooooooo.... no benefit of the doubt...

    Excuse me?

    Change the constitution...

    Not necessary.

    U can't suspend it...

    Not necessary.

    there is no suspend clause.

    Doesn't matter.

    Can you imagine what the Democrats would do if they could suspend the constitution with whatever emergency they come up with!!!!

    George W. Bush needed The Patriot Act to do what he did.
    Democrats know better, needing none of that garbage.

    She needs to call in the national guard...

    George W. Bush had an excuse. After Katrina, he used it.

    George W. Bush called in the National Guard after Katrina hit
    New Orleans, sending them into the French Quarter.

    and put them on every street corner where the problems are...

    George W. Bush is a recovering alcoholic and knows what it is like
    to fall off the wagon. But falling off the wagon after being hit by
    a massive hurricane while also flooded inside a tavern in the French
    Quarter is another matter entirely.

    That is why GWB sent in the National Guard to the French Quarter.

    She needs to have police arrest people for crimes they commit...

    We welcomed the National Guard with open arms, and even offered
    them drinks for free. That seemed to keep them all very happy ...

    She needs to tell prosecutors to add enhancements if they are using guns during those crimes...

    Crimes? What crimes? We we armed with drinks! If drinks are
    dangerous, then all of us are guilty! But no member of the National
    Guard complained. Not a single one. Some even thanked us.

    Pelosi is from San Francisco. I am sure she has been to the French
    Quarter, and is familiar with Peter Street. The bartenders in both
    places tend to their customers with the words "What will you have,
    honey?"

    Mobilize the gang units and go after criminals doing the crimes with the guns...

    Bars are open 24 hours in the French Quarter. After Katrina, GWB
    declared New Orleans a disaster area, ordering bars to be closed at
    2 o'clock in the morning. Even though the French Quarter area was
    free of flood waters. So who was the real criminal? Not bartenders
    and their customers.

    But hey. When the National Guard showed up, we all knew what to do.
    Bartenders and customers alike showed them a good time. Rather than
    put flowers in their hair (as Pelosi would have done), we put drinks
    in their hand. And that made them very, very happy.

    And leave law abiding citizens alone....

    George W. Bush sat near the statue of Andrew Jackson on his horse in
    front of St. Louis Basilica, making an address to the American people.
    He was not given a free drink, as he is a teetotaller.

    When he finished, a pigeon flew by and pooped on his head.

    For Life,
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Sep 12 20:56:00 2023
    AFAIK, the order pertains to just the city of Albuquerque. Let's give her the nefit of the doubt (although she don't deserve it) and let's observe and see i
    the # of shootings in Albuquerque goes down from this "gun ban." (It won't.)

    Because all shootings stem from licensed gun owners, right? ;)

    She's not the smartest lady. Let's see if "statistics" work out well for her.

    I was recently through Albuquerque... twice. I can tell you that their
    problem is not guns. Their problem is too many street people and too many
    drug addicts (on illegal drugs). Fixing those kinds of problems is "too
    hard" and probably doesn't win leftist votes like gun grabbing.

    I can also tell you I saw a *whole* lot more weed dispensaries than I did grocery stores. I know because I was looking for the latter and kept
    driving by the former.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Tue Sep 12 20:59:00 2023
    She needs to call in the national guard... and put them on every street corner
    here the problems are... She needs to have police arrest people for crimes the
    commit... She needs to tell prosecutors to add enhancements if they are using ns during those crimes... Mobilize the gang units and go after criminals doing
    he crimes with the guns...

    Need to have them busting more people for drugs, too. I think that gun
    crimes need to be prosecuted more seriously when (1) the gun is not legally owned, and/or (2) the perp is high -- even on legal things like pot (which
    is apparently legal in NM).

    South ABQ... along Central Avenue (and even around the UNM campus)... is crawling with street people. People passed out laying on the sidewalks... walking out into crowed streets... etc. Other areas are also not great but that area in particular is bad.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 13 09:30:55 2023
    On 12 Sep 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Need to have them busting more people for drugs, too. I think that gun crimes need to be prosecuted more seriously when (1) the gun is not legally owned, and/or (2) the perp is high -- even on legal things like pot (which is apparently legal in NM).

    South ABQ... along Central Avenue (and even around the UNM campus)... is crawling with street people. People passed out laying on the
    sidewalks... walking out into crowed streets... etc. Other areas are
    also not great but that area in particular is bad.


    I get frustrated with the Democrats with their take on things.... Crime and gun violence becomes an issue.... They go... We have to take guns away from the responsible gun owners... Ooooohhhhh ya, and I need to amp up my armed security because of our failed policies.

    I recall back in the sumer of love, 2020, the Sheriff in Marion country... or it was the Sheriff in Polk county... Marion is next to Citrus, where I hale from... Anyway, before try this in a small town was famous... He said... if you don't do that here... burning and looting... because you will probably get shot by a citizen. When the pressed on his statements... He said he didn't condone people shooting people.... He said that it was legal for someone to protect their family... Castle doctrine and stand your ground. The looting and burning was short lived in the state of Florida...

    When law enforcement enforce the laws...and the legal gun owners remain vigilant to protect themselves and their families... criminals go to other places...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Sep 13 21:27:00 2023
    When law enforcement enforce the laws...and the legal gun owners remain vigila
    to protect themselves and their families... criminals go to other places...

    Yes, and if your government is lax and/or ties the hands of your law enforcement and/or citizens, criminals thrive.

    A lot of lefties don't understand that.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Thu Sep 14 07:28:35 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    When law enforcement enforce the laws...and the legal gun owners remain vigi
    to protect themselves and their families... criminals go to other places...

    Yes, and if your government is lax and/or ties the hands of your law enforcement and/or citizens, criminals thrive.

    A lot of lefties don't understand that.

    The more correct thing would be to say that they "don't WANT to understand that."

    To accept that idea would be to have to admit that their Narrative is not true and that hurts them more than anything.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Thu Sep 14 07:28:16 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I get frustrated with the Democrats with their take on things....

    They live in Clown World where everything is opposite from Reality.

    When law enforcement enforce the laws...and the legal gun owners remain vigilant to protect themselves and their families... criminals go to
    other places...

    Like Democrat-run cities where Law Enforcement is tied, and the DA will just let them go it they do get caught.

    I feel like most people have had it, though. If Antifa tries things again, I think that we'll see some push back in the form of dead Antifa thugs and no one having seen anything.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron Lauzon on Thu Sep 14 08:30:50 2023
    On 14 Sep 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...


    Like Democrat-run cities where Law Enforcement is tied, and the DA will just let them go it they do get caught.

    I feel like most people have had it, though. If Antifa tries things again, I think that we'll see some push back in the form of dead Antifa thugs and no one having seen anything.


    I see evidence of "Normal", ones who are drinking the Kool-Aide, Democrats shifting away from the party because of the way things are going.

    Antifa is a protected class... I hope the next election will turn the direction we are going ands the political elites are exposed and expunged from the system.

    God help us

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  • From Dr. What@1:3634/27 to IB Joe on Fri Sep 15 07:29:00 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Antifa is a protected class...

    I think more along the lines of useful idiots. They are "protected" in that if they start getting prison time or shot, they will disappear. Most of these people are nothing but LARPers and once things get real, they will run back to their mom's basement.

    I hope the next election will turn the
    direction we are going ands the political elites are exposed and
    expunged from the system.

    They've already been exposed - at least the front-men have. We need to know how deep this goes and remove these people from society.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dr. What on Fri Sep 15 08:27:58 2023
    On 15 Sep 2023, Dr. What said the following...


    I think more along the lines of useful idiots. They are "protected" in that if they start getting prison time or shot, they will disappear.
    Most of these people are nothing but LARPers and once things get real, they will run back to their mom's basement.


    Hitler had the Brown Shirts when he was getting into power... The Democrats had Antifa and BLM.


    They've already been exposed - at least the front-men have. We need to know how deep this goes and remove these people from society.


    If I were the Deep State I'd be worried if Trump gets back in and starts investigations in to the cover ups on how things get so politicized...

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  • From Dr. What@1:3634/27 to IB Joe on Sat Sep 16 08:12:00 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    If I were the Deep State I'd be worried if Trump gets back in and
    starts investigations in to the cover ups on how things get so politicized...

    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    His first term tore the mask. A second term will rip it completely away and not even the Ignorant Elitists will be able to use their mental gymnastics to excuse things away. At that point, the unconstitutional 4th branch of gov't will be dismantled and their power gone.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dr. What on Sat Sep 16 05:45:14 2023
    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    Nothingburgers?

    I don't think Donald Trump is going to get away with any (a few, pehaps) with any of the charges he now faces.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dr. What on Sat Sep 16 09:19:36 2023
    On 16 Sep 2023, Dr. What said the following...


    That's why he's been indicted (how many times now?) for nothingburgers.

    His first term tore the mask. A second term will rip it completely away and not even the Ignorant Elitists will be able to use their mental gymnastics to excuse things away. At that point, the unconstitutional
    4th branch of gov't will be dismantled and their power gone.


    Amen brother!!

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  • From Metalhead@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 22 13:53:34 2023
    She's not the smartest lady. Let's see if "statistics" work out well for

    I was recently through Albuquerque... twice. I can tell you that their problem is not guns. Their problem is too many street people and too
    many drug addicts (on illegal drugs). Fixing those kinds of problems is "too hard" and probably doesn't win leftist votes like gun grabbing.

    I lived in Albuquerque for a long time. There is something really wrong with New Mexico. Just about everyone that I ever met there seemed like they were up to no good in one way or another.

    I was working at a casino in ABQ, and there was a concert happening. I was herding hundreds of people, and ABQ Mayor Richard Berry parked his car illegally, and then walked up to me and said "I'm Mayor Berry. Where do I go?"

    Apparently he thought that elites could park wherever they want, and that there was a special entrance for elites, so that they can skip the line!

    I told him "Right here" as I pointed to the super long line that was for everybody to use. He gave me a mad dog face and then walked away to ask another security guard the same question.

    The drug addicts didn't disgust me as much as thing guy did ;)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Wed Sep 13 17:40:18 2023
    Noooooooooooo.... no benefit of the doubt... Change the constitution...
    U can't suspend it... there is no suspend clause. Can you imagine what the Democrats would do if they could suspend the constitution with whatever emergency they come up with!!!!

    They already do, and they've already gotten away with a lot. Surely this is just a test; they're testing us to see what happens when they start to
    openly impede on constitutional rights. If Albuquerque gun owners just turn the other cheek, and I know they will, then this will serve as a model for future tyrannical endeavors.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Sep 14 08:14:20 2023
    They already do, and they've already gotten away with a lot. Surely this is just a test; they're testing us to see what happens when they start to openly impede on constitutional rights. If Albuquerque gun owners just turn the other cheek, and I know they will, then this will serve as a model for future tyrannical endeavors.

    Update on this issue: A federal court in Albuquerque blocked the governor's gun ban. Also, the governor is facing impeachment by the state's house.

    (My prediction: The impeachment won't go anywhere, and the leftists in New Mexico won't even remember any of this by election day.)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Sep 26 08:04:12 2023
    On 13 Sep 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    They already do, and they've already gotten away with a lot. Surely this is just a test; they're testing us to see what happens when they start to openly impede on constitutional rights. If Albuquerque gun owners just turn the other cheek, and I know they will, then this will serve as a model for future tyrannical endeavors.


    I know they are testing the limits... COVID was the test... Republicans are looking to impeach the New Mexico Governor... They may have the votes, we'll see. We need to get Trump back in to stop this proxy war with Russia and to stop the assault on the constitution.

    BTW, Trump bought a Glock while he was in South Carolina yesterday!!!!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Sep 26 09:17:00 2023
    They already do, and they've already gotten away with a lot. Surely this is jus
    a test; they're testing us to see what happens when they start to
    openly impede on constitutional rights. If Albuquerque gun owners just turn the
    other cheek, and I know they will, then this will serve as a model for future t
    rannical endeavors.

    A couple of observations:

    (1) while traveling recently, I went through several states. One was California and another was New Mexico. The only state that bragged about
    road and infrastructure work being tied to "Build Back Better" and/or the "Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill" was NM. Made me wonder if it was just
    them, or if it was because they got a lot more money than the other states.

    (2) the Biden administration is cutting funding to high schools that
    include archery and gun sports in their athletic departments. There was a recent article about a high school girls archery team that might have to
    fold as a result.


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