Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

I didn't catch that part, but I did hear Vivek Ramaswamy say that "all these other candidates are bought and paid for," and although he's probably right, only a person who's bought and paid for would make a comment like that.

Ya, although I would say that Vivek won the debate, it solidified my belief that he's bought and I want him as far away from the levers of power as possible.

The whole "accuse your opponent of what you do" is an Elitist tactic.


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First there is no way that they are neck and neck.
Biden's presidency has been a un-litigated disaster from gaffes to mumbling to
earing a smirk and cracking jokes at moments where it is not at all appropriat
such as on the island of maui.

I am not sure I know of any Biden supporters right now. However, I do know
of a lot of anti-Trump supporters. To them, the gaffes, mumbles, and other issues are not any problem, so long as the President is not Trump.

You have to figure those folks in when counting your Biden "supporters."


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Ya, although I would say that Vivek won the debate, it solidified my belief that he's bought and I want him as far away from the levers of power as possible.

The whole "accuse your opponent of what you do" is an Elitist tactic.

Good point! We've seen them do that plenty of times. There was no need for him to say that about ALL of them. We might need some of those people (DeSantis and/or Burgum) for president in 2028!

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On 25 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

First there is no way that they are neck and neck.
Biden's presidency has been a un-litigated disaster from gaffes to mumbli
to
earing a smirk and cracking jokes at moments where it is not at all appropriat
such as on the island of maui.

I am not sure I know of any Biden supporters right now. However, I do know of a lot of anti-Trump supporters. To them, the gaffes, mumbles,
and other issues are not any problem, so long as the President is not Trump.

You have to figure those folks in when counting your Biden "supporters."

There needs to be purge!! Venus is wonderful this time of year.
Why are these people so anti-Trump?
Why don't they love America, and what was considered wrong with America First? Trump was the first President to take Big League money from China and the first President (recently anyway) to walk across the DMZ into North Korea.

A while ago I posted a long list of Trump Accomplishments.
Why would anyone have an issue with any of these positive things?
If there are people out there in Fidoland that are supportive of Joe Biden (and I know that they are out there) and furthermore have feel good emotions about the job that Biden has done, then please enlighten me.

What has Biden done or what do you think he will do that has you so loyal and having a positive outlook on what you believe will be coming from the Biden Administration, I would like to hear from you. Let's talk about it.

It would seem to me that these libs are walking to the beat of the Democratic Party sets and the media is the carrier for all things deranged.
This madness seems to follow a Star Trek TNG parallel where the Borg Queen is the Democratic Party and the people that follow blindly are drones who can not possibly think for themselves. Doctor Who's Cybermen is another great analogy or at the very least a very fu*ked up episode of the Twlight Zone.

In any event these people that consider themselves as Democrats do seem from (my Conservative prospective) do seem under a powerful spell of control as they seem to get their directions or worse yet what would be described more like instructions, disobeying these orders is not possible, no more then it would be possible for a cog to break away from its connected gear and act independently; to do its own thing.

I am forced to conclude that there is (outside of myself) a hand-full of a few others which are Normal and the rest well... The Brain Damage is severe.

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A while ago I posted a long list of Trump Accomplishments.

Yes, I saw your list. Many of them.

Why would anyone have an issue with any of these positive things?

Many of the actions of Donald Trump (not talking about your lists) were simply dangerous.

If there are people out there in Fidoland that are supportive of Joe Biden (and I know that they are out there) and furthermore have feel good emotions about the job that Biden has done, then please enlighten me.

I am not really a Biden supporter but an honest look at what he has done does not show anything negative.

The economy is doing quite well in spite of MAGA nay sayers.

Indeed these are challenging times for any president.

What has Biden done or what do you think he will do that has you so loyal and having a positive outlook on what you believe will be coming from the Biden Administration, I would like to hear from you. Let's talk about it.

I am not loyal to Biden, but I can't find anything negative about his presidency.

I can find a lot negative about Donald Trump in his presidency and beyond.

It would seem to me that these libs are walking to the beat of the Democratic Party sets and the media is the carrier for all things deranged.

What is so negative about the "Democratic Party"

What should I make of your statement that the "media" is the "carrier for all things deranged"?

This madness seems to follow a Star Trek TNG parallel where the Borg Queen is the Democratic Party and the people that follow blindly are drones who can not possibly think for themselves. Doctor Who's Cybermen is another great analogy or at the very least a very fu*ked up episode of the Twlight Zone.

The "madness" is Donald Trump and his followers. What do you all think you are following?

In any event these people that consider themselves as Democrats do seem from (my Conservative prospective) do seem under a powerful spell of control as they seem to get their directions or worse yet what would be described more like instructions, disobeying these orders is not possible, no more then it would be possible for a cog to break away from its connected gear and act independently to do its own thing.

What kind of spell, what directions that disobeying is not possible?

Democrats follow their hearts/minds the same as anyone else.

I am forced to conclude that there is (outside of myself) a hand-full of a few others which are Normal and the rest well... The Brain Damage is severe.

Your conclusion is not forced. It is silly.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

The whole "accuse your opponent of what you do" is an Elitist tactic.

Good point! We've seen them do that plenty of times. There was no need
for him to say that about ALL of them. We might need some of those
people (DeSantis and/or Burgum) for president in 2028!

But the question still is, "should any of those people be president in 2028?"

Some, obviously not. Others, maybe. But as we peel back the facades that they show us, I'm not liking what I find underneath.


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Why are these people so anti-Trump?
Why don't they love America, and what was considered wrong with America First?
Trump was the first President to take Big League money from China and the firs
President (recently anyway) to walk across the DMZ into North Korea.

I don't think those things matter to these folks. He is a man and is loud
and they don't like that. In their eyes, he made fun of people with disabilities and they don't like that. For whatever reason, they were constantly afraid that his rhetoric would provoke some country into starting a war. They were afraid that the illegal immigration rhetoric was actually against all immigrants. Some loved Hilary and didn't like his constant
verbal attacks against the Clintons. Some took his pointing out of Joe's apparent senility as attacks against the elderly as a whole.

They were afraid they would lose freedoms, like Roe v. Wade (which happened), or that homosexuals, trans-sexuals, non-whites, non-Christians, etc., would
be persecuted by radical conservatives.

I honestly think many of them would not have liked any straight,
Republican, white male President. They didn't get their Hilary and Trump
was what prevented that, so they hold a grudge. I also believe that many
would have no problem with him if he was a Democrat but was otherwise the
same Trump.

I suspect others are not near that paranoid or grudge-holding and would simply prefer a President with a smaller ego/personality, i.e. more boring.

While I would not mind "more boring" at all, I have an issue with "senile"
and pandering to the left, which rules Joe out for me.

A while ago I posted a long list of Trump Accomplishments.
Why would anyone have an issue with any of these positive things?

To these folks, they are not positive things. Some of them would be the
ones that really don't like America (as it is) and would prefer socialism
or some other leftist pipe dream. Others don't care about those things for
the reasons I mentioned above. It doesn't matter how good things are, they don't like the source and won't accept them as good.

One thing that is for certain in my mind... in 2016, Trump had a message
that appealed to the Independents and others who were not party-loyalists
and were looking for something different. In 2020, Trump did the same
thing Hilary did in 2016 and preached to his own choir... his message
appealed to staunch supporters and party-loyalists while ignoring the Independents who got him elected the first time.

If he does that again, everything will look great until Election Day when
those quiet, non-loyalists vote for someone else.

sibly think for themselves. Doctor Who's Cybermen is another great analogy or
the very least a very fu*ked up episode of the Twlight Zone.

The most recent revival of that series has an episode called "Wunderkind." IMHO, it feels more like a The Outer Limits episode, but it explores a situation where the US winds up electing a spoiled brat 11 year old as President.


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On 26 Aug 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...

Good point! We've seen them do that plenty of times. There was no nee for him to say that about ALL of them. We might need some of those people (DeSantis and/or Burgum) for president in 2028!

But the question still is, "should any of those people be president in 2028?"

I think because of Trump the Republican party has changed... to the better... The move is away from the political class, elites and donor class to that of the voter class... Trump's America First platform. Until these potential Republican leaders get it I don't see any of them getting elected in 2028... Except Vivek, the only other America First candidate.

This was evident during the debate... They played a portion of Oliver Anthony's Rich Men north of Richmond to get the candidates take on the song... Oliver responded a few days after the debate... Shocked that the candidates didn't get it... The song was about them... It's not a right or left wing anything it's ab out a corrupt political class that does not care about the voters/citizens of the country and are in it to enrich themselves...

:)

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Good point! We've seen them do that plenty of times. There was no nee for him to say that about ALL of them. We might need some of those people (DeSantis and/or Burgum) for president in 2028!

But the question still is, "should any of those people be president in 2028?"

No they should not! The good ones like Ron DeSantis and Doug Bergum should stay where they're at in case we need to bail from these lousy blue states
some day. A good governor can make a huge difference in every day life.

And Tim Scott needs to stay in the senate. He has a good voting record. There's no sense in pulling people out of the Senate's Republican minority.

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I think because of Trump the Republican party has changed... to the better... The move is away from the political class, elites and donor class to that of the voter class... Trump's America First platform.

Yup. Unlike the Democrats, I think there are still a good number of Republicans who want to do good. Trump got them to recognize the RINOs in their ranks.

This was evident during the debate... They played a portion of Oliver Anthony's Rich Men north of Richmond to get the candidates take on the song... Oliver responded a few days after the debate... Shocked that
the candidates didn't get it... The song was about them... It's not a right or left wing anything it's ab out a corrupt political class that does not care about the voters/citizens of the country and are in it to enrich themselves...

The Elitists lack any self-awareness. It's another tell.

While all people of bouts of hypocricy, Elitists have an overabundance.


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On 27 Aug 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...

The Elitists lack any self-awareness. It's another tell.

While all people of bouts of hypocricy, Elitists have an overabundance.

Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said Trump was the most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's the most hated politician for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class love him.

The voter class have come to see Trump as the only way to save America from the Elites and Donor Class...

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I don't think those things matter to these folks. He is a man and is
loud and they don't like that. In their eyes, he made fun of people with disabilities and they don't like that. For whatever reason, they were constantly afraid that his rhetoric would provoke some country into starting a war. They were afraid that the illegal immigration rhetoric was actually against all immigrants. Some loved Hilary and didn't like his constant verbal attacks against the Clintons. Some took his
pointing out of Joe's apparent senility as attacks against the elderly
as a whole.

These people feared a war, where none existed under Trump.
Trump 77 is no spring chicken and yet he has no issues talking clearly, the energy of this man at 77 is just incredible.

The media also went a frenzy, when they heard Trump was 6'3" and 215 pounds.

Trump was spot on with his comments.
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Just look at the aftermath of illegals who have infuriated into the U.S. specially with the Nightmare that has become a realty here in New York, they have so many of these people, they have reached a breaking point, where they can not take anymore. This winter will be proof of the spread of disease and that will put the icing on the cake, as it will be a disaster. Now they are heading to Upstate New York. Paying patrons of hotels and motels are being forced out and replaced with a free place to stay for illegals. The Gall...

This was said by Senator Anna M. Kaplan
"For an undocumented immigrant who fled danger in their home country, being reported to ICE can be a death sentence, yet sadly, far too many people are willing to take advantage of our more vulnerable neighbors by threatening to reveal their immigration status in order to exploit them in some way."

For every undocumented immigrant who has violated and exploited U.S. sovereignty.
New York: Is very much backwards to make laws authorizing illegals
to work. I say "Send them back!" I have no issues at all with people wanting to come to the U.S. legally, but I have zero compassion for anyone sneaking into the country like cockroach.

What are we going to do when we discover that after this work authorization is granted that they still don't want to work and expect everything for free, such as free housing, health care, education, who is going to foot that bill?
What happens when they discover that the free ride is over, what then?
Yes many will be happy with working, but what do we do with the majority who have been and still want to be freeloaders.

We never learned a thing, from the photographs of Mexicans here in the U.S. flying the middle finger at the camera.
Why would these individuals act with any difference now?

For those of you who have no problem with any of this, go ahead and post a sign in your front yard, right next to your Black Lives Matter sign that says "Welcome Asylum Seekers" and invite these people into YOUR home.
You can make Taco Tuesdays a thing...

Trump can be brash at times and he does not hold back, if people take a swing at him he will always come back with twice the juice.
Many Trump supporters (including me) say that he says when I am thinking.

I honestly think many of them would not have liked any straight, Republican, white male President. They didn't get their Hilary and Trump was what prevented that, so they hold a grudge. I also believe that many would have no problem with him if he was a Democrat but was otherwise the same Trump.

Hillary made a lot of claims about Trump and also with her Basket of Deplorables comment. Clinton herself admitted that this comment was a factor in her loss - within her book entitled "What Happened"
Additionally she did not talk about enough what she would of done for the Nation.

One thing that is for certain in my mind... in 2016, Trump had a message that appealed to the Independents and others who were not party-loyalists and were looking for something different. In 2020, Trump did the same thing Hilary did in 2016 and preached to his own choir... his message appealed to staunch supporters and party-loyalists while ignoring the Independents who got him elected the first time.

If he does that again, everything will look great until Election Day when those quiet, non-loyalists vote for someone else.

Many will also see (as they have seen already) what is happening with Trump
and how he is being mistreated by these phony "Get Trump" indictments.

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Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said Trump was the most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's the most hated politician for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class love him.

The MAGA voter class.

The voter class have come to see Trump as the only way to save America from the Elites and Donor Class...

Outside of the MAGA base there isn't much "love" for Donald Trump.

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Hello Jpe,

Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said Trump was the most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's the most hated politician for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class love him.

Hillary Clinton - 3 million more popular votes than Donald Trump.

Joe Biden - 7 million more popular votes than Donald Trump.

The voter class have come to see Trump as the only way to save America from
the Elites and Donor Class...

Hell, even Hunter Biden would get millions more popular votes than
your orange clown.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said
Trump was the most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's
the most hated politician for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class love him.

Correct. Elitists, having no self-awareness, don't understand that they are not the majority.

But we are back again to the Elitists belief that everyone should watch them for the cues of how to think/act. Because they are just soooo smart, ya know.


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On 27 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

Outside of the MAGA base there isn't much "love" for Donald Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1y6Zy3pU&list=WL&index=2

This one you can go 1:05 in... Watch the whole thing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSldos4AY0&list=WL&index=3

This guy might be MAGA I don't know... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0gskO60qig&list=WL&index=1

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On 28 Aug 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...

Correct. Elitists, having no self-awareness, don't understand that they are not the majority.

But we are back again to the Elitists belief that everyone should watch them for the cues of how to think/act. Because they are just soooo
smart, ya know.

this is why the elites hate him... https://youtube.com/shorts/oL5x-GpsdZU?si=dXj-jyEDncd-AP-v https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nzMkZvzx4bE

I was going to go in one direction... and was listening to youtube while typing

....HAHAHA

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Hello Greg,

[..]

These people feared a war, where none existed under Trump.

Trump tried to break up NATO. He also threatened to withdraw
the US from NATO, thus accomplishing the same thing. And the whole
world saw Trump and Putin walk behind closed doors to make a deal
that only the two of them would know about.

Trump 77 is no spring chicken and yet he has no issues talking clearly, the
energy of this man at 77 is just incredible.

You have really got to be kidding me. The man is taking a ton
of statins, and needs adderol to have enough energy to get up in
the morning. He does not exercise, aside from driving a golf cart
around a golf course (if one can call that exercise). It is only
a matter of time before he wakes up dead, the rest of the world
praising Jesus when he does.

The media also went a frenzy, when they heard Trump was 6'3" and 215 pounds.

Ohio State quarterback Kyle McCord is 6'3" and 215 pounds.
Donald Trump is not.

NFL quarterback Lamar Jackson is one inch taller and has the
same weight. Donald Trump is no Lamar Jackson.

NFL quarterback Joe Burrow is 6'4" and 216 pounds, and has won
the NCAA football championship, the Heisman Trophy, and played in
the Super Bowl. Donald Trump has done none of those things.

Face it, Greg. The orange clown's claim to be as fit as the best
quarterbacks who play the game is so outlandish that not even a
school kid would take him seriously.

So please. Tell me why you believe such nonsense. I have really
tried to wrap my head around this. What a fool believes has always
been beyond my comprehension. So please. Help me out here ...

Trump was spot on with his comments.

Trump is a malignant narcissist, as well as morbidly obese.
Maybe it is that combination that makes him who and what he is.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots
of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Nine miles of wall. That is how much wall Trump built. I wonder how
many Mexicans that kept out? A few dozen? Nah. Not enough to count.

Just look at the aftermath of illegals who have infuriated into the U.S. specially with the Nightmare that has become a realty here in New York, they have so many of these people, they have reached a breaking point, where they can not take anymore. This winter will be proof of the spread of
disease and that will put the icing on the cake, as it will be a disaster. Now they are heading to Upstate New York. Paying patrons of hotels and motels are being forced out and replaced with a free place to stay for illegals. The Gall...

Since the wall can't get built fast enough, and the ocean is not
wide enough, what else can be done? Might as well let 'em in. Let
'em all in. And then sell them lottery tickets.

This was said by Senator Anna M. Kaplan
"For an undocumented immigrant who fled danger in their home country, being
reported to ICE can be a death sentence, yet sadly, far too many people are
willing to take advantage of our more vulnerable neighbors by threatening to reveal their immigration status in order to exploit them in some way."

For every undocumented immigrant who has violated and exploited U.S. sovereignty.
New York: Is very much backwards to make laws authorizing illegals
to work. I say "Send them back!" I have no issues at all with people wanting to come to the U.S. legally, but I have zero compassion for anyone sneaking into the country like cockroach.

What are we going to do when we discover that after this work authorization
is granted that they still don't want to work and expect everything for free, such as free housing, health care, education, who is going to foot that bill?
What happens when they discover that the free ride is over, what then?
Yes many will be happy with working, but what do we do with the majority who have been and still want to be freeloaders.

We never learned a thing, from the photographs of Mexicans here in the U.S.
flying the middle finger at the camera.
Why would these individuals act with any difference now?

For those of you who have no problem with any of this, go ahead and post a sign in your front yard, right next to your Black Lives Matter sign that says "Welcome Asylum Seekers" and invite these people into YOUR home.
You can make Taco Tuesdays a thing...

Trump can be brash at times and he does not hold back, if people take a swing
at him he will always come back with twice the juice.
Many Trump supporters (including me) say that he says when I am thinking.

Bill Gates does not have a problem with the rest of the world.
So why should anybody else? I mean, we all live on the same planet.

I honestly think many of them would not have liked any straight,
Republican, white male President. They didn't get their Hilary and

Trump

was what prevented that, so they hold a grudge. I also believe that

many

would have no problem with him if he was a Democrat but was otherwise

the

same Trump.

Hillary made a lot of claims about Trump and also with her Basket of Deplorables comment. Clinton herself admitted that this comment was a factor
in her loss - within her book entitled "What Happened"
Additionally she did not talk about enough what she would of done for the Nation.

Hillary Clinton makes a lot of claims that make sense.
Donald Trump makes a lot of claims that make no sense.
That is the difference between the two of them.

One thing that is for certain in my mind... in 2016, Trump had a

message

that appealed to the Independents and others who were not

party-loyalists

and were looking for something different. In 2020, Trump did the

same

thing Hilary did in 2016 and preached to his own choir... his message
appealed to staunch supporters and party-loyalists while ignoring the
Independents who got him elected the first time.

If he does that again, everything will look great until Election Day

when

those quiet, non-loyalists vote for someone else.

Many will also see (as they have seen already) what is happening with Trump
and how he is being mistreated by these phony "Get Trump" indictments.

Vigilanted justice (mob rule) is not justice, but revenge. Is that
what MAGA nutjobs want? To destroy this country once Trump has been
convicted and sentenced in a court of law for his many crimes?

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Now they are heading to Upstate N
ew York. Paying patrons of hotels and motels are being forced out and replaced >ith a free place to stay for illegals. The Gall...

Do you have any links to show where this has happened?

What are we going to do when we discover that after this work authorization is
ranted that they still don't want to work and expect everything for free, such
s free housing, health care, education, who is going to foot that bill?

Don't they usually get kicked out if they violate the authorization?

Hillary made a lot of claims about Trump and also with her Basket of >Deplorables comment. Clinton herself admitted that this comment was a factor in
her loss - within her book entitled "What Happened"
Additionally she did not talk about enough what she would of done for the Natio

Exactly. She preached to her choirs on the coasts and in Chicago while ignoring huge portions of the country.


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While all people of bouts of hypocricy, Elitists have an overabundance.

Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said Trump was e most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's the most hated poli
cian for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class lov
him.

I know a lot of D's who are not Elites, or even wannabes, that are in the
VOTER class that certainly do not love him. While they may not
particularly love Biden, their dislike of Trump will overcome that when it comes time to vote.

As a Republican, one turn off I can think of is that another Trump term
will likely be filled with more impeachment madness and very little getting done as a result. If you truly believe that all of the indictments are a
ploy to keep him from winning, I can't imagine they will stop trying if he
does win.


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On 28 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

I know a lot of D's who are not Elites, or even wannabes, that are in the VOTER class that certainly do not love him. While they may not particularly love Biden, their dislike of Trump will overcome that when
it comes time to vote.

Why Democrats vote the way they do is beyond me... I see some of these polls come in and wonder who the hell are these people...

As a Republican, one turn off I can think of is that another Trump term will likely be filled with more impeachment madness and very little getting done as a result. If you truly believe that all of the indictments are a ploy to keep him from winning, I can't imagine they
will stop trying if he does win.

If Republicans win all 3 houses it'll be turned right off. We can get down to business and investigate the Deep State and all the political elites and donor class who think they, not the people, who choses the presidents.

Just because the other side uses Lawfare and whatever dirty trick they can doesn't mean you stop the fight... Look at what the current house has done in a few months...

Here's what I was listening to while writing this

https://youtu.be/WjawPMRG8eA?si=6-I69-fDr0x9lAdC

The Dems may be loosing the fight...

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On 28 Aug 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Greg,

[..]

These people feared a war, where none existed under Trump.

I have already been through this message (reading where you have responded.)
It was a comical one time read and now comes a response.
You are so triggered at many points.

Trump tried to break up NATO. He also threatened to withdraw
the US from NATO, thus accomplishing the same thing. And the whole
world saw Trump and Putin walk behind closed doors to make a deal
that only the two of them would know about.

He got countries to Pay Up as I recall more than one country was delinquent, like by a lot. It is called accountability, which I know that might be a new concept you to understand. As for any back-room deals between Trump and Putin, that IS sheer speculation, but if there any such deals that from long ago.

Trump 77 is no spring chicken and yet he has no issues talking clearly LL> GD> the energy of this man at 77 is just incredible.

You have really got to be kidding me. The man is taking a ton
of statins, and needs adderol to have enough energy to get up in
the morning. He does not exercise, aside from driving a golf cart
around a golf course (if one can call that exercise). It is only
a matter of time before he wakes up dead, the rest of the world
praising Jesus when he does.

No the walking dead would be Biden, and I can not stand the old fart (Biden), but I do not wish him dead. - like you would be wishin Trump dead. Who do you Think was an ally of the Trump Administration, I would be very careful talking about praising Jesus specially when Jesus looks upon Trump with favor. You can do as you wish, it is your ass.

The media also went a frenzy, when they heard Trump was 6'3" and 215 pounds.

This is the information is from Fulton County, so take that up with them.
It sounds like you might be more than a tad over in weight. Which is fine because I am not into fat shaming, specially in your parts, good eatin.

So please. Tell me why you believe such nonsense. I have really
tried to wrap my head around this. What a fool believes has always
been beyond my comprehension. So please. Help me out here ...

Then there (you) go Triggered.
So what he could be in GQ, so could I due my German jeans, but who cares.

Nine miles of wall. That is how much wall Trump built. I wonder how
many Mexicans that kept out? A few dozen? Nah. Not enough to count.

Try 453 miles that is a far cry from Nine.
There is that southern lack of education - showing up again.

Vigilanted justice (mob rule) is not justice, but revenge. Is that
what MAGA nutjobs want? To destroy this country once Trump has been convicted and sentenced in a court of law for his many crimes?

Conservatives can agree to disagree, Liberals just lose their minds and eventually destruct as they lash out others but the keep missing the target.

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Nikki Haley is a prime example of this. During the debate she said
Trump was the most hated politician.... And... That's not true... He's
the most hated politician for the Elites... the RINOs... The Donor Class... BUT the VOTER class love him.

The voter class have come to see Trump as the only way to save America from the Elites and Donor Class...

Absolutely! I see it that way too. It's Trump or NOTHING.

Thanks for telling us this about Nikki Haley. I didn't catch that part, so I didn't know she said that until now. I was just telling my kids earlier "she's a good lady but too weak to be president," so I'll correct myself next time they ask about her. (My kids are ultra conservative and super political just like dad!)

But I was 1/2 right. She's too weak. That was a weak statement she made about Trump!

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What are we going to do when we discover that after this work authorization is granted that they still don't want to work and expect everything for free, such as free housing, health care, education, who
is going to foot that bill? What happens when they discover that the
free ride is over, what then? Yes many will be happy with working, but what do we do with the majority who have been and still want to be freeloaders.

How quickly can the Democrats turn these people into registered voters? Supposedly, they already are allowed to vote in local elections in NYC (I can care less) but how soon before they're voting for state and federal elections also? I wonder if the GOP would get up off their butts when/if that happens?

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On 28 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Absolutely! I see it that way too. It's Trump or NOTHING.

Thanks for telling us this about Nikki Haley. I didn't catch that part,
so I didn't know she said that until now. I was just telling my kids earlier "she's a good lady but too weak to be president," so I'll
correct myself next time they ask about her. (My kids are ultra conservative and super political just like dad!)

But I was 1/2 right. She's too weak. That was a weak statement she made about Trump!

There are a bunch of establishment Republican's trying to run... I don't fully understand these peoples motives. This election cycle seems to expose the RINOs as what they are establishment. There are a group of Republicans in the country that will put the hate of a man before the country.

Excluding Vivek... and a few others... All want to go back to the endless wars and messed up foreign policies of the past... Racial devision with no solution in sight on how to bring the population together.

We need Trump... There is absolutely no one else who will fight as hard as he does to save our country from falling into the hards of the Marxists trying to to take over.

We need to stay strong and vigilant over the next months because I think we're at a tipping point... I want to hand my children something positive... If the Democrats win and can finish their Marxist goals... I'll just hit the beach and eat hot dogs until my time has come.

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Hello Greg,

These people feared a war, where none existed under Trump.

I have already been through this message (reading where you have responded.)

The president takes an oath of office to "preserve, protect and
defend the Constitution of the United States." Failure to do so
is not an option.

It was a comical one time read and now comes a response.
You are so triggered at many points.

Trump failed on a number of points. Far too many to count.

Trump tried to break up NATO. He also threatened to withdraw
the US from NATO, thus accomplishing the same thing. And the whole
world saw Trump and Putin walk behind closed doors to make a deal
that only the two of them would know about.

He got countries to Pay Up as I recall more than one country was delinquent,
like by a lot.

Whenn Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, NATO knew what was coming
next. As did US President Barack Obama. Of course, Russia's invasion
and illegal annexation of Crimea was only the beginning of what was
to come next. President Obama imposed sanctions on Russia, and also
encouraged Europe to do the same.

Once Trump got into office, things were different. Trump decided
to play nice with Putin, who continues to illegally hold innocent
Americans in Russian gulags.

It is called accountability, which I know that might be a new concept you to
understand.

When a Russian dictator invades a sovereign state, who is to hold
him accountable for his actions? Trump chose to do nothing, and even
suggested lifting sanctions that had been imposed on Russia by Obama.
IOW, wanted to reward the aggressor, and benefit from his actions.

As for any back-room deals between Trump and Putin, that IS sheer speculation,

The whole world watched them step behind the curtain, with no note
takers being allowed, to make whatever deals they wanted.

but if there any such deals that from long ago.

Putin is a dictator and continues to make all the deals he wants.
Just this past week he made a deal with a chap who wanted to fly on
an airplane ...

Trump 77 is no spring chicken and yet he has no issues talking

clearly LL> GD> the energy of this man at 77 is just incredible.

You have really got to be kidding me. The man is taking a ton
of statins, and needs adderol to have enough energy to get up in
the morning. He does not exercise, aside from driving a golf cart
around a golf course (if one can call that exercise). It is only
a matter of time before he wakes up dead, the rest of the world
praising Jesus when he does.

No the walking dead would be Biden, and I can not stand the old fart (Biden), but I do not wish him dead. - like you would be wishin Trump dead.

I am beyond surprised that Trump is still walking, much less
breathing. But maybe that is due to being from Queens. Kinda
like Christopher Walken. You realize both of them speak in
the same way as folks from Irish Channel. You've never been
there, so I'll spare you the details.

Who do you Think was an ally of the Trump Administration, I would be very careful talking about praising Jesus specially when Jesus looks upon Trump with favor. You can do as you wish, it is your ass.

When Trump dies, or is incapacitated due to a stroke/illness, many
folks around the world will be praising Jesus. I am not saying that
is what folks should be wishing or hoping for, but what people will
do.

Those who are more refined, or educated, will raise a glass with
their friends and have a toast, and say the magic words everybody
has wanted to hear for ages.

The media also went a frenzy, when they heard Trump was 6'3" LL>GD>and

215 pounds.

This is the information is from Fulton County, so take that up with them.

The mug shot was taken at Fulton County Jail, but the documents
were apparently filled in by Donald Trump.

It sounds like you might be more than a tad over in weight.

Official height and weight listed as per Fulton County Jail.
Take a look at pictures and film of Donald Trump, given his age.
What you see on camera is not the same as the height/weight listed.
Only the truly ignorant and legally blind would think otherwise.

Which is fine because I am not into fat shaming, specially in your parts, good eatin.

I am sure Donald Trump filled out that part all by himself.
After all, he is a malignant narcissist and cannot help himself.
So. If he thinks he is Joe Namath, then let him be Joe Namath.
I mean, it is only make believe. Right?

So please. Tell me why you believe such nonsense. I have really
tried to wrap my head around this. What a fool believes has always
been beyond my comprehension. So please. Help me out here ...

Then there (you) go Triggered.
So what he could be in GQ, so could I due my German jeans, but who cares.

Well, we will have to wait and see. Hush money trial #2 coming up.
Details matter. Oh the suspense. The suspense ...

Nine miles of wall. That is how much wall Trump built. I wonder how
many Mexicans that kept out? A few dozen? Nah. Not enough to count.

Try 453 miles that is a far cry from Nine.
There is that southern lack of education - showing up again.

Depends on who does the counting. And how that counting is done.


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Hello Aaron,

What are we going to do when we discover that after this work
authorization is granted that they still don't want to work and expect
everything for free, such as free housing, health care, education, who
is going to foot that bill? What happens when they discover that the
free ride is over, what then? Yes many will be happy with working, but
what do we do with the majority who have been and still want to be
freeloaders.

How quickly can the Democrats turn these people into registered voters?

Very quickly, when motivated.

Which is exactly what happened eight years ago, in Louisiana.
US Senator David Vitter, a Republican candidate for governor, was
so disliked by everybody that after somehow managing to make the
runoff all the other Republican candidates endorsed the Democrat.

Naturally, the Democrat went on to win, and serve two consecutive
terms. Vitter was so upset that he gave up politics entirely, and
became a lobbyist. His wife knew better, getting hold of a federal
judgeship that nobody could take away from her.

Supposedly, they already are allowed to vote in local elections in NYC (I can care less) but how soon before they're voting for state and federal elections also?

You don't understand. New Yorkers do things different. They use
ranked voting. Makes no difference what party, if any, a candidate
is or might be. Voters can vote for all, in order of preference.

This is the best form of direct democracy there ever could be, and
should be used in all elections.

I wonder if the GOP would get up off their butts when/if that happens?

Direct democracy would put an end to partisan politics, returning
to us all what the Framers of the Constitution had always intended.

For Life,
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On 29 Aug 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Greg,

These people feared a war, where none existed under Trump.

I have already been through this message (reading where you have responded.)

The president takes an oath of office to "preserve, protect and
defend the Constitution of the United States." Failure to do so
is not an option.

Well there is a random fact of the day, everybody knows that, if your suggesting that Trump violated this oath with specifics then do tell.

Do you realize that EVERYTHING that left says about Trump the Democrats are also guilty of themselves.

Biden should be tarred and feathered and carried about on washed cobblestone streets.

By the way don't talk to me about the Constitution of the United States we all know that there is the documentation to prove that this sh!tbag Joe Biden has no respect for the U.S. Constitution.

It was a comical one time read and now comes a response.
You are so triggered at many points.

Trump failed on a number of points. Far too many to count.

That's a cop-out and you know it. If you can not provide details, and I
think I know why you won't because you know they (your comments) will be analyzed and fact checked, your afraid to be proven wrong with the real truth.

Trump tried to break up NATO. He also threatened to withdraw
the US from NATO, thus accomplishing the same thing. And the whole LL>> world saw Trump and Putin walk behind closed doors to make a deal LL>> that only the two of them would know about.

He got countries to Pay Up as I recall more than one country was delinquent,
like by a lot.

Whenn Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, NATO knew what was coming
next. As did US President Barack Obama. Of course, Russia's invasion
and illegal annexation of Crimea was only the beginning of what was
to come next. President Obama imposed sanctions on Russia, and also encouraged Europe to do the same.

On 24 February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine.
This was under Biden's Watch.

In February and March 2014, Russia invaded and subsequently annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine.
This was under Obama's Watch.

Why did neither Democratic President do anything militarily or have a summit to discuss this to persuade Putin to back out of Ukraine.
Could it be because the first Black president was afraid of Putin and yet under the Obama we took out Osama Bin Laden, or at least that was the story, even wrapped him up like Christmas present minus the bow, and he became fish-food. They should dropped him off alive in New York, New York.
Fuhgeddaboudit

Once Trump got into office, things were different. Trump decided
to play nice with Putin, who continues to illegally hold innocent Americans in Russian gulags.

It is called accountability, which I know that might be a new concept
to
understand.

When a Russian dictator invades a sovereign state, who is to hold
him accountable for his actions? Trump chose to do nothing, and even suggested lifting sanctions that had been imposed on Russia by Obama.
IOW, wanted to reward the aggressor, and benefit from his actions.

Interesting thought you have about invading a sovereign state.
What about the sovereignty of the United States.
That is located West to the tune of 1000 miles or 1609 km from the Louisiana state line.

Putin is a dictator and continues to make all the deals he wants.
Just this past week he made a deal with a chap who wanted to fly on
an airplane ...

There was a bomb on board - that is what the news is reporting anyway.
Maybe, just maybe Yevgeny Prigozhin shouldn't launched a brief mutiny against the Kremlin in June.

Trump 77 is no spring chicken and yet he has no issues talking

clearly LL> GD> the energy of this man at 77 is just incredible.

I am beyond surprised that Trump is still walking, much less
breathing. But maybe that is due to being from Queens. Kinda
like Christopher Walken. You realize both of them speak in
the same way as folks from Irish Channel. You've never been
there, so I'll spare you the details.

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There are a bunch of establishment Republican's trying to run... I
don't fully understand these peoples motives. This election cycle
seems to expose the RINOs as what they are establishment. There are a group of Republicans in the country that will put the hate of a man
before the country.

Because those RINOs are Elitists as well. They, like the other Elitists, fear Trump because he will dismantle the Deep State and erode their power. Those RINOs have been using the system to their benefit for their entire lives. If they are kicked off of it, not only will they lose what power that they have, but they will also lose their lifestyles because they are useless people.


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Excluding Vivek... and a few others... All want to go back to the
endless wars and messed up foreign policies of the past... Racial
devision with no solution in sight on how to bring the population together.

I bet that Mike Pence was a good guy before he became a disgruntled ex vice president. Something has taken over his soul; he's not the same great guy he was when he was campaigning with Trump. Now he lets flies crawl on his face, and he wants to spend our money on fighting Russia (under the guise of helping Ukraine.)

We need Trump... There is absolutely no one else who will fight as hard
as he does to save our country from falling into the hards of the
Marxists trying to to take over.

I see it that way also. I will be praying hard for him on election day. I seriously felt love from Trump while he was president. I was thrilled when he won the 2016 election. I want to feel that pride one more time.

We need to stay strong and vigilant over the next months because I think we're at a tipping point... I want to hand my children something positive... If the Democrats win and can finish their Marxist goals... I'll just hit the beach and eat hot dogs until my time has come.

The Democrats are at war against God, and they are going to lose.

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Supposedly, they already are allowed to vote in local elections in NY can care less) but how soon before they're voting for state and feder elections also?

You don't understand. New Yorkers do things different. They use
ranked voting. Makes no difference what party, if any, a candidate
is or might be. Voters can vote for all, in order of preference.

I never heard of ranked voting until now. Is it a thing in NYC? It doesn't happen in the rest of the state.

The voters actually rank the candidates on the ballot, from best to worst? It sounds like a bad idea.

This is the best form of direct democracy there ever could be, and
should be used in all elections.

States are too big of a region for small town guys like me to be ruled by the residents of the big cities. It would be more comfortable for all of us if we controlled our own cities, independent from some witch-faced-reptilian like Kathy Hochul.

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On 29 Aug 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...

By the way don't talk to me about the Constitution of the United States
we all know that there is the documentation to prove that this sh!tbag
Joe Biden has no respect for the U.S. Constitution.

Amen brother

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On 30 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...

Because those RINOs are Elitists as well. They, like the other
Elitists, fear Trump because he will dismantle the Deep State and erode their power. Those RINOs have been using the system to their benefit
for their entire lives. If they are kicked off of it, not only will
they lose what power that they have, but they will also lose their lifestyles because they are useless people.

I hope he gets back in for this reason alone... We have to be grateful for unanswered prayers.... If Pence sent back the electors back to the states and the states sent back the republican electors and Trump was voted in a second time... most people would not have been able to see what the Democrat party is all about.

The world is in troubled times... In Canada Dr. Jordan Peterson, a renowned Psychologist in Canada had his licenses pulled and has to undergo re-education training if he wants it back... apparently he doesn't by in on the pronoun BS...

I wonder how history will view this messed up time...

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On 30 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I bet that Mike Pence was a good guy before he became a disgruntled ex vice president. Something has taken over his soul; he's not the same
great guy he was when he was campaigning with Trump. Now he lets flies crawl on his face, and he wants to spend our money on fighting Russia (under the guise of helping Ukraine.)

Mike thinks he's a Rock Star... There's a segment of politicians who care more about foreign policy than they do domestic policy... They belong to the Uni-Party... There's been a long time joke about the Uni-Party... How do you circumcise a politician from the Uni-Party.... answer... You can't, because there is no end to the pricks...

The world is going to be in a lot of trouble if we don't shake these elites off the taxpayer's tit.

I see it that way also. I will be praying hard for him on election day. I seriously felt love from Trump while he was president. I was thrilled
when he won the 2016 election. I want to feel that pride one more time.

I wasn't a Trump supporter at first... I was sick to my stomach when he won the Republican nomination... I was more worried about Hillary getting in than I was about Trump loosing... I later became a Trump supporter after how hard I saw him fight the machine and later when I saw his policies and how he ran the country...

The Democrats are at war against God, and they are going to lose.

Amen brother...

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I wonder how history will view this messed up time...

That depends on who writes, and later re-writes, history.

Just look at how the Elitists want to re-write history today to suit their ends.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

I never heard of ranked voting until now. Is it a thing in NYC? It
doesn't happen in the rest of the state.

The best cases were in Alaska where ranked voting really screwed things up.

The voters actually rank the candidates on the ballot, from best to
worst? It sounds like a bad idea.

It is. It's yet another way for the Elitists to get their candidate elected.


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We need to stay strong and vigilant over the next months because I think we're at a tipping point... I want to hand my children something positive... If the Democrats win and can finish their Marxist goals... I'll just hit the beach and eat hot dogs until my time has come.

The Democrats are at war against God, and they are going to lose.

While the Republicans are at war with each other, which is also no way to
win. All the RINO-hunting plays right into their hands. It was not all
that long ago that the Democrat Party was at odds with themselves and the Republicans took some advantage.


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The voters actually rank the candidates on the ballot, from best to worst? It sounds like a bad idea.

It is. It's yet another way for the Elitists to get their candidate elected.

But don't the elitists still need a candidate to get ranked #1 enough times
to win?

I remember reading about how Alaska did it and it sounded complicated.
IIRC, it also meant that the two general election candidates could be from
the same party.


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On 31 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...

Just look at how the Elitists want to re-write history today to suit
their ends.

Hopefully enough truth gets exposed... Maybe Trump can make History Great Again

:)

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I wasn't a Trump supporter at first... I was sick to my stomach when he won the Republican nomination... I was more worried about Hillary
getting in than I was about Trump loosing... I later became a Trump supporter after how hard I saw him fight the machine and later when I
saw his policies and how he ran the country...

Same here. I was angry with the GOP for nominating "the tabloid guy." I thought we were gonna lose for sure, and it bothered me that he wasn't an established politician. But I was wrong about all that and now my way of thinking has changed.

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On 31 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Same here. I was angry with the GOP for nominating "the tabloid guy." I thought we were gonna lose for sure, and it bothered me that he wasn't
an established politician. But I was wrong about all that and now my way of thinking has changed.

Trump revealed the lie that only politicians can run the country... No... It should be run by business men only... Politicians only ruin the country!!!!

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Hello Aaron,

Supposedly, they already are allowed to vote in local elections

in NY

can care less) but how soon before they're voting for state and

feder

elections also?

You don't understand. New Yorkers do things different. They use
ranked voting. Makes no difference what party, if any, a candidate
is or might be. Voters can vote for all, in order of preference.

I never heard of ranked voting until now. Is it a thing in NYC? It doesn't happen in the rest of the state.

NYC uses ranked choice voting. The most recent local elections were
conducted in that way, the five leading candidates for mayor finishing
in a virtual tie. Took them a few tries to get the counting commpleted.
Voters in Alaska adopted this method in 2022, and Sarah Palin thought
it would be a big help for her to get elected as congresswoman. She
lost, big time, to a political newcomer.

There are pros and cons to all methods of voting. But ranked choice
voting is much less partisan, especially in regards to party, as focus
is placed more on candidates themselves.

The voters actually rank the candidates on the ballot, from best to worst? It sounds like a bad idea.

It is a much needed improvement from what we have now. The closer
we come to direct democracy, the better off we are. With raned choice
voting, the last place candidate is eliminated in round 1, and then
the next round is compiled, et al, until a candidate has reached a
50% majority to claim victory.

This method also saves taxpayer dollars, as no runoff election is
needed. So it is a win-win type of thing for everybody.

This is the best form of direct democracy there ever could be, and
should be used in all elections.

States are too big of a region for small town guys like me to be ruled by the residents of the big cities.

I sure would hate to see Alaska ruled by the mayor of Anchorage.

It would be more comfortable for all of us if we controlled our own cities,
independent from some witch-faced-reptilian like Kathy Hochul.

Andrew Cuomo tried to warn you ...

For Life,
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Hello Ron,

I wonder how history will view this messed up time...

That depends on who writes, and later re-writes, history.

All histories are revisionist. Without exception.
Interpretations and re-interpretations of the past.
That is what we have, and what we go by.

Almost everything your teacher taught you in school
was a lie. A bonafide lie. And even the teacher knows
it, and willingly taught those kids, those lies.

And to think, we all paid them to do it.

Just look at how the Elitists want to re-write history today to suit their ends.

Over 90% of the history books in high school present the
US civil war from a northern perspective. Including in schools
througout the South. But when reading real historical record,
guess which side was right? And what the real reasons as to why
the war was fought. The answers might surprise you.

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Hello Ron,

I never heard of ranked voting until now. Is it a thing in NYC? AT>It

doesn't happen in the rest of the state.

The best cases were in Alaska where ranked voting really screwed things up.

Ranked choice voting is not limited to Alaska, which was adopted
in that state by popular vote in 2022.

The voters actually rank the candidates on the ballot, from best AT>to

worst? It sounds like a bad idea.

It is. It's yet another way for the Elitists to get their candidate elected.

How many beans did you eat this morning? I sure as heck would not
want to be downwind from you anywhere, as the fumes might kill me.

Just because your hero, Sarah Palin, lost her shirt in her failed
effort to win a seat in the US House of Representatives to another
woman - a political novice at that - does not mean "Elitists" get
their candidate elected. After all, the last time your beloved
Sarah Palin held public office she quit on the job.

Which might have been one of the main reasons voters in Alaska
did not want to elect her as their representative in Congress.

Since it is apparent to all that you have no clue as to what
ranked choice voting is, please click on the link below. You can
thank me later.

https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/


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The Democrats are at war against God, and they are going to lose.

While the Republicans are at war with each other, which is also no way to win. All the RINO-hunting plays right into their hands. It was not all that long ago that the Democrat Party was at odds with themselves and the Republicans took some advantage.

Don't allow Democrats to try to "distance self from Biden." They all played a role in the migration crisis and the deficit crisis. They all deserve fingers pointed at them (of course a handful of Republicans deserve blame also.)

Even our liberal pals here on Fidonet share the blame for the border deaths, the fentanyl deaths, and the skyrocketing crime. Hopefully they got some nifty free stuff from all this.

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Same here. I was angry with the GOP for nominating "the tabloid IJ> AT> guy."
thought we were gonna lose for sure, and it bothered me that he IJ> AT> wasn'
an established politician. But I was wrong about all that and now my IJ> AT>
of thinking has changed.

Trump revealed the lie that only politicians can run the country...
No... It should be run by business men only... Politicians only ruin the country!!!!

Especially the ones with law degrees.

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There are pros and cons to all methods of voting. But ranked choice
voting is much less partisan, especially in regards to party, as focus
is placed more on candidates themselves.

I don't trust ranked chioce voting and I don't trust Sarah Palin either.

It is a much needed improvement from what we have now. The closer
we come to direct democracy, the better off we are. With raned choice voting, the last place candidate is eliminated in round 1, and then
the next round is compiled, et al, until a candidate has reached a
50% majority to claim victory.

States shouldn't be free to make decisions like these regarding the presidential election. It's not fair to change the rules in one state for the
sole purpose of changing an outcome that will affect all states.

States are too big of a region for small town guys like me to be rule the residents of the big cities.

I sure would hate to see Alaska ruled by the mayor of Anchorage.

There should be no state government. It's a waste of money, and it's just an opportunity for conservatives to subjugate liberals, or vice-versa. There are too many crowns being worn throughout the country, and it goes straight to their heads.

independent from some witch-faced-reptilian like Kathy Hochul.

Andrew Cuomo tried to warn you ...

I want him back!

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On 31 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Trump revealed the lie that only politicians can run the country... No... It should be run by business men only... Politicians only ruin country!!!!

Especially the ones with law degrees.

The worst kind...

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Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

It is. It's yet another way for the Elitists to get their candidate

elected.

But don't the elitists still need a candidate to get ranked #1 enough times to win?

That's what I thought. But all they need is a candidate that gets enough votes - after the cheating - to squeak by with the win.


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IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

Trump revealed the lie that only politicians can run the country...
No... It should be run by business men only... Politicians only ruin
the country!!!!

I would argue that we need both but for different reasons.

The real problem is that we have politicians who want to tell business men how to run their businesses, and business men who want to tell politicians how to run the country.

But the root of the problem is the attitude that some people have that they can run your life better than you.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

Especially the ones with law degrees.

Thomas Sowell (paraphrased): At the root of every huge problem is a man from Harvard.


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The Democrats are at war against God, and they are going to lose.

While the Republicans are at war with each other, which is also no way to
win. All the RINO-hunting plays right into their hands. It was not all that long ago that the Democrat Party was at odds with themselves and the
Republicans took some advantage.

Don't allow Democrats to try to "distance self from Biden." They all played a r
le in the migration crisis and the deficit crisis. They all deserve fingers poi
ted at them (of course a handful of Republicans deserve blame also.)

Unless the Republican voters quit RINO-hunting, the Democrats won't have to distance themselves from much of anything, especially if Biden somehow
steps aside and they manage to nominate another confident, charismatic candidate like Obama (their words, not mine).


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Hello Joe,

[..]

Trump revealed the lie that only politicians can run the country... No... It
should be run by business men only... Politicians only ruin the country!!!!

Government provides. Business denies.

WE LOVE YOU, BIG BROTHER!

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Don't allow Democrats to try to "distance self from Biden." They all play >r
le in the migration crisis and the deficit crisis. They all deserve finge >poi
ted at them (of course a handful of Republicans deserve blame also.)

Unless the Republican voters quit RINO-hunting, the Democrats won't have to distance themselves from much of anything, especially if Biden somehow steps aside and they manage to nominate another confident, charismatic candidate like Obama (their words, not mine).

I would be in disbelief if Trump lost the primary, because our people know BS when they see it. But liberals don't; so it makes no difference who or what their primary produces.

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Unless the Republican voters quit RINO-hunting, the Democrats won't have >MP> to distance themselves from much of anything, especially if Biden somehow >MP> steps aside and they manage to nominate another confident, charismatic >MP> candidate like Obama (their words, not mine).

I would be in disbelief if Trump lost the primary, because our people know BS when they see it. But liberals don't; so it makes no difference who or what th
r primary produces.

I think it does matter. If they find some one with the confidence and
charisma (the kind the liberals/leftist/Democrats/Independents will like)
of Obama, it will certainly matter. I don't know who that would be, mind
you, as some of the smarter Democrats have either left/been pushed aside or just don't want to be President.

RINO-hunting is going to go over great with MAGA Republicans, but most Americans are more worried about their rising cost of living and other
issues. Dis-unity is not a long-term solution.


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I would be in disbelief if Trump lost the primary, because our people kn when they see it. But liberals don't; so it makes no difference who or w th
r primary produces.

I think it does matter. If they find some one with the confidence and charisma (the kind the liberals/leftist/Democrats/Independents will like) of Obama, it will certainly matter. I don't know who that would be, mind you, as some of the smarter Democrats have either left/been pushed aside or just don't want to be President.

I just meant that the brainwashed liberals will always be brainwashed liberals. They are going to vote Democrat even if it kills them.

But I get what you're saying; if they replace Joe with Michelle Obama, for example, then that will garner a few extra votes. That's why I'm urging the brainwashed people to double-down on their support for Biden.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

I just meant that the brainwashed liberals will always be brainwashed liberals.

Yup. They aren't capable of learning anything new - because it would mean that they accept the idea that they aren't the expert in something.

They are going to vote Democrat even if it kills them.

And, based on the track record of all socialist societies, it probably will.

But I get what you're saying; if they replace Joe with Michelle Obama,
for example, then that will garner a few extra votes.

Micheal is trans and all trans people are mentally ill, disqualifying him from office.

That's why I'm
urging the brainwashed people to double-down on their support for
Biden.

That's a good strategy. Hopefully they will put "Biden" bumper stickers on their car too. Bill Engvall's idea would be a good one.


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