• Less Facts And Truth

    From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tue Aug 8 08:32:00 2023
    I am not trying to "prove" anything.

    You made a claim without any proof, that was questioned. Up to you to
    provide evidence.

    It is common for folks charged under the espionage act to be jailed awaiting their court date.

    That could be as the act is very broad. Your claim was that it happened to people who "did what Trump did," but have only shown that it happens to
    persons (one) who are also deemed to be a flight risk, to be working with a foreign government, and/or are deemed to pose some other threat.

    So far, the judge(s) in the Trump case have not deemed him to be any of the above. So, we still have no evidence here that someone "did what Trump
    did" and was kept in jail awaiting trial.

    Thanks to you, we do now have evidence that at least one person "did what Joe Biden did" (kept documents in their home and cooperated with authorities), was charged (unlike Biden), was found guilty and was given a prison sentence.

    Since you completely missed that one of your examples was caught with *grenades* and other unregistered weapons, we also have proof that you
    don't read your sources very closely.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to MIKE POWELL on Tue Aug 8 14:31:18 2023
    So far, the judge(s) in the Trump case have not deemed him to be any of the above. So, we still have no evidence here that someone "did what Trump
    did" and was kept in jail awaiting trial.

    True, Trumps crimes are unique.

    Jack Teixeira did what trump did. He was simply showing off the documents. Trump did that differently. He didn't show them off on discord, he showed them to people without authorization to see the documents in his home or office.

    Thanks to you, we do now have evidence that at least one person "did what Joe Biden did" (kept documents in their home and cooperated with authorities), was charged (unlike Biden), was found guilty and was given a prison sentence.

    This whataboutism and false equivalency is not a defense of what Trump did.

    Since you completely missed that one of your examples was caught with *grenades* and other unregistered weapons, we also have proof that you
    don't read your sources very closely.

    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am saying.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wed Aug 9 08:30:00 2023
    Jack Teixeira did what trump did. He was simply showing off the documents. Tru
    did that differently. He didn't show them off on discord, he showed them to p
    ple without authorization to see the documents in his home or office.

    True, which is wrong, but that is not like showing them on the Internet,
    where anyone, including those with ties to foreign governments, could see
    them. Jack was also found to be a flight risk, which Trump was not. Being
    a flight risk is what gets you kept in jail, no matter if you are charged
    under the Espionage Act or some non-espionage charge in your local municipality.

    Same holds true when one is deemed a potential threat to others, no matter if you are charged under the Espionage Act or some non-espionage charge in your local municipality.

    You seem to be having difficulty seeing the false equivalency in your
    claims.

    Thanks to you, we do now have evidence that at least one person "did what Jo
    Biden did" (kept documents in their home and cooperated with authorities), was charged (unlike Biden), was found guilty and was given a prison sentence

    This whataboutism and false equivalency is not a defense of what Trump did.

    Also true, but it is not a false equivalency. The case you quoted
    regarding the officer who kept documents in his home and cooperated with authorities is exactly like what Biden did, but not like what Trump did.
    That deserves pointing out.

    Since you completely missed that one of your examples was caught with *grenades* and other unregistered weapons, we also have proof that you don't read your sources very closely.

    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am saying.

    I do see it, and it is not correct.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 9 18:49:02 2023
    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am saying.

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump Accomplishments?
    So I posted them in a very long message, did not get one push back from him, nor any debate either, he deleted most of, if not all that I posted in his reply to me. That's the beauty of fidonet though, the post is still there, in all of it's glory, he can pretend that it doesn't exist, but it doesn't work that way.

    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Aug 9 23:41:04 2023
    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am saying.

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump Accomplishments?

    Yeah, I've seen your "list" before.

    Donald Trump is not an accomplished man.

    So I posted them in a very long message, did not get one push back from him,

    I'm not going to push back. There is no substance to your "list"

    nor any debate either, he deleted most of, if not all that I posted in his reply to me.

    I didn't delete anything. I just didn't comment.

    That's the beauty of fidonet though, the post is still there, in all of it's glory, he can pretend that it doesn't exist, but it doesn't work that way.

    All what glory?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 10 07:13:57 2023
    That's the beauty of fidonet though, the post is still there, in all of glory, he can pretend that it doesn't exist, but it doesn't work that way

    All what glory?
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Aug 10 06:42:02 2023
    All what glory?
    An easier follow along reference can be found at www.magapill.com

    I bet that's a good one.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Thu Aug 10 09:36:00 2023
    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump Accomplishments? So I posted them in a very long message, did not get one push back from him, n
    any debate either, he deleted most of, if not all that I posted in his reply
    me. That's the beauty of fidonet though, the post is still there, in all of i
    s glory, he can pretend that it doesn't exist, but it doesn't work that way.

    You have to really watch it with him. He will claim he didn't say
    something that you just quoted back to him. You quote it back to him
    again, and he will be sure to delete that part of the post and reclaim he didn't say it.

    He thinks if he deletes his quoted text that it goes away and didn't happen.

    Same thing when he shifts his argument and then claims that was what he was trying to prove all along. I don't keep the messages here forever, but my cache does go pretty far back and, with him, I will look them up.

    Ultimately, it is pointless to argue with an idiot, whether they are a real idiot or just intentionally carrying on like one.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Aug 10 20:03:50 2023
    Hello Greg,

    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am MP>saying.

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump Accomplishments?

    An honest question, as there were none to speak of.

    Now in regards to the Biden administration, that is easy.
    Can all be summed up in one word -

    Bidenomics.

    Nobody will ever call what Trump did to our economy Trumponics.

    .. Still waitng for that Coffee :)

    Add a tablespoon of olive oil to your morning brew. You'll love it.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 10 20:04:08 2023
    Hello Alan,

    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am saying.

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump
    Accomplishments?

    Yeah, I've seen your "list" before.

    It isn't long.

    Donald Trump is not an accomplished man.

    Richard Nixon showed the entire world he was an accomplished man.
    He did it live, on stage, and unaccompanied by any staff or friends.
    Sat down, and played piano. At the Grand Ol' Opry. And his voice.
    What a beautiful voice he had. "Give My Regards To Broadway" will
    never be the same, as his rendition was one-of-a-kind, loved by
    all and held in awe by Dolly Parton herself.

    Let's see Donald Trump take the stage and do the same.

    For Life,
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 10 22:31:22 2023
    On 10 Aug 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    I'm so sorry, you just can't (or don't want to) see what I am MP>say

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump Accomplishments?

    An honest question, as there were none to speak of.

    Now in regards to the Biden administration, that is easy.
    Can all be summed up in one word -

    Bidenomics.
    You might be a bit to far south to actually understand the Bidenomics is a more then just a scam, it is trickery.
    https://spectator.org/the-bidenomics-scam/

    Word out of the White House is that President Joe Biden wants to tout his economic successes. He's even embracing the slogan "Bidenomics" which most people think is a term of derision and policy flops.

    On the one hand, the unemployment rate is low and millions of jobs have been created over the past two years. Reality check: Virtually all of these jobs are simply the recovery of jobs that already existed in the Trump years but were lost during the COVID lockdowns mostly in blue states

    If the economy is so strong, why aren't Americans feeling the love? Tracking polls still show two-thirds of Americans believing the country/economy are headed in the wrong direction. Something just doesn't feel right.
    Here are some reasons why:

    First and foremost, it has been the economic reality that for most families, in 22 of the last 25 months, inflation has outpaced wages. So how can the White House claim that worker pay is rising?

    Here's the TRICK that the Biden number crunchers are playing: The White House is touting the rise of nominal hourly earnings, i.e., wages before inflation, since Biden took office. That part of the story is true. But as in the 1970s with double-digit inflation, nominal wages rose, but families got financially crushed because prices were rising so much faster. Today, prices have risen even faster, so those larger incomes buy less. Average hourly earnings are up by $3 an hour before inflation, but down by a little more than $1 an hour in terms of purchasing power.

    Biden trumpets the latest reduction in gas prices at the pump down from almost $5 a gallon this time last year. But the price that drivers pay is still about
    80 cents a gallon higher than when former President Donald Trump was in office.

    Second Trick this what he wants to call it Bidenomics call it whatever there is NO WAY this came from the mind of Joe Biden, it came from a so called wiz-kid that got a C- in math but because he is liberal snowflake he gets high praise from the Biden Whitehouse. When this plan of his continues to fail and people such as what I am telling you comes out in the media and they will make excuses as to why it failed. Remember this message.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 11 07:40:19 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Here's the TRICK that the Biden number crunchers are playing: The White House is touting the rise of nominal hourly earnings, i.e., wages

    "There Are Three Kinds of Lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics"


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 11 16:54:51 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Yeah he does that, as you may have seen, he said what Trump
    Accomplishments?

    An honest question, as there were none to speak of.

    Now in regards to the Biden administration, that is easy.
    Can all be summed up in one word -

    Bidenomics.

    You might be a bit to far south to actually understand the Bidenomics
    is a more then just a scam, it is trickery.

    Nothing trickery involved. It is all about raising revenue.
    Not really hard to do, if you know how. And Joe is a genius
    in that regard. A true genius. Not even FDR managed to get
    his own economic plan named after him. That should tell you
    something.

    Word out of the White House is that President Joe Biden wants to tout his economic successes.

    He's doing a heck of a job so far. And it keeps getting better.

    He's even embracing the slogan "Bidenomics" which most people think is a term of derision and policy flops.

    With the lowest unemployment in decades and high wages everywhere,
    nobody seems to be complaining. Except jealous Republicans and MAGA
    nutjobs who never could put any kind of economic plan together.

    On the one hand, the unemployment rate is low and millions of jobs have been
    created over the past two years.

    That is an understatement. As a result of the Biden administration's
    economic policies, private companies have had more to invest in their
    ventures, meaning more profits - as well as more jobs available.

    Reality check: Virtually all of these jobs are simply the recovery of jobs that already existed in the Trump years but were lost during the COVID lockdowns mostly in blue states

    Ronald Reagan's "trickle down" economic plan and tax cuts for the
    wealthy program did not work. Nor did Trump's attempt to emulate the
    actor who played second banana to a chimpanzee.

    Joe Biden chose a different path. A much different path. With what
    he deemed "Bidenomics" a much better future for us all was created.
    And then he implemented it. And the results are staggering.

    Bidenomics raises tax revenue in several ways -
    * increasing the top tax rate by 39.6%
    * taxing capital gains at ordinary rates
    * raising the corporate tax rate to 28%

    Growing the American economy from the middle out and the bottom up,
    not the top down. Not the cesspool capitalism of Reagan and Trump.

    If the economy is so strong, why aren't Americans feeling the love?

    The vast majority of Americans are. Including the wealthy.

    Tracking polls still show two-thirds of Americans believing the country/economy are headed in the wrong direction. Something just doesn't feel right.

    People are happy, having jobs with good pay. Student loans should
    be forgiven, which would make some people even happier. But that's
    okay. Joe can adopt Bernie's plan, giving everybody free college
    tuition. That would at least make up for the loans that cannot be
    forgiven.

    Here are some reasons why:

    First and foremost, it has been the economic reality that for most families,
    in 22 of the last 25 months, inflation has outpaced wages. So how can the White House claim that worker pay is rising?

    Inflation is down, and no longer a problem. Of course, the Biden
    administration has always had it under control. Better than other
    countries. And he has done this, while maintaing low unemployment.
    Amazing, truly amazing!

    Here's the TRICK that the Biden number crunchers are playing: The White House is touting the rise of nominal hourly earnings, i.e., wages before inflation, since Biden took office.

    Dude, the federally mandated minimum wage remains stuck at $7.25 an
    hour, the same it has been for the last 14 years. That is not a Joe
    Biden problem, but a Republican problem as Republican politicians in
    Congress have refused to raise it to an acceptable level.

    That part of the story is true.

    Everybody knows Republican politicians are scrooges.

    But as in the 1970s with double-digit inflation, nominal wages rose, but families got financially crushed because prices were rising so much faster.

    President Carter chose to save Americans being held hostage in Iran
    rather than get them executed by going to war with insane ayatollahs.

    Yes, President Carter put an end to price controls on the cost of
    gas. Dereguation was good for the oil companies. The price of gas did
    go up, as well as the cost of goods and services. But people had jobs,
    and could afford to pay for those goods and services.

    And all Americans being held hostage in Iran were returned safely
    to our shores.

    All thanks to the greatest of our presidents.

    Today, prices have risen even faster, so those larger incomes buy less.

    Wages never keep up with inflation. But people have jobs, and can
    afford to pay for whatever they need, or want. And besides, wages do
    go up over time. So it's all good.

    Average hourly earnings are up by $3 an hour before inflation, but down by a
    little more than $1 an hour in terms of purchasing power.

    The federally-mandated minimum wage remains stuck at $7.25 an hour,
    with no COLA adjustment over time. Some states, such as Louisiana,
    have no minimum wage, meaning hourly wages are set at the federally
    mandated minimum wage. This has remained the case for 14 years.

    Biden trumpets the latest reduction in gas prices at the pump down from almost $5 a gallon this time last year. But the price that drivers pay is still about 80 cents a gallon higher than when former President Donald Trump was in office.

    Cost is relative. Price controls were in place under Nixon and Ford.
    President Carter deregulated oil and gas, thus removing those controls.
    People have jobs, and can afford to pay for what they want and/or need.
    Nobody wants to back to price controls of yesteryear.

    Second Trick this what he wants to call it Bidenomics call it whatever there
    is NO WAY this came from the mind of Joe Biden,

    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out one has to take
    in more than one gives out. Ronald Reagan (and David Stockman) never
    could figure that out. Neither could Donald Trump (or his economic
    advisor). Trickle down economics simply does not work. Nor does
    tax cuts for the wealthy. Both of them trashed our economy, while
    their wealthy friends benefitted.

    it came from a so called wiz-kid that got a C- in math but because he is liberal snowflake he gets high praise from the Biden Whitehouse.

    I am sure Biden has a very dedicated team of economic advisors.

    When this plan of his continues to fail and people such as what I am telling
    you comes out in the media and they will make excuses as to why it failed. Remember this message.

    Seems like Bidenomics is off to a great start. After eight years,
    plus another eight years of whatever Kamala give us, you'll never
    remember a word of what you wrote.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Aug 12 01:45:04 2023
    On 08-11-23 16:54, Lee Lofaso <=-
    spoke to Gregory Deyss about Less Facts And Truth <=-

    President Carter chose to save Americans being held hostage in Iran
    rather than get them executed by going to war with insane ayatollahs.

    And all Americans being held hostage in Iran were returned safely
    to our shores.

    All thanks to the greatest of our presidents.

    Except that the Americans were not released until the second that Carter
    was no longer President. The Iranians held them in a plane on the
    tarmac until the moment that the oath of office turned power over to the
    next guy.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Sun Aug 13 15:42:13 2023
    Hello Dale,

    President Carter chose to save Americans being held hostage in Iran
    rather than get them executed by going to war with insane ayatollahs.

    And all Americans being held hostage in Iran were returned safely
    to our shores.

    All thanks to the greatest of our presidents.

    Except that the Americans were not released until the second that Carter was
    no longer President.

    All 52 Americans had been released and were on board the aircraft
    ready to come home when Carter was still in office.

    The Iranians held them in a plane on the tarmac until the moment that the oath of office turned power over to the next guy.

    Carter successfully negotiated their release, and greeted them
    at the airport upon their arrival. Without a shot being fired or
    going to war.

    "Thank you, Mr. President!" is what each of those 52 Americans
    said to Jimmy Carter when they walked out of that airplane. And
    what a wonderful sight it was.

    For Life,
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 13 10:13:48 2023
    Now in regards to the Biden administration, that is easy.
    Can all be summed up in one word - Bidenomics.

    Inflation is still too dam high, the packages and containers of food items are smaller and yet the prices of these food items are cost more.
    If the sizes were the same size in the before time, you would see a full scale pandemonium at the supermarket.

    The United States had it credit rating dropped, this happened for first time under Obozo. Another idiot that was never qualified.
    It has also recently happened under Biden.
    Bond prices decline when interest rates rise, when the issuer experiences a negative credit event, or as market liquidity dries up.

    You might be a bit to far south to actually understand the Bidenomics LL> GD> is a more then just a scam, it is trickery.

    My education is far superior to yours.
    Want Proof?
    People in states in the Northeast tend to be among the most educated in America, with higher percentages of the population holding higher education degrees, according to a U.S. News analysis.

    How does Louisiana rank in education?
    Louisiana ranks 46th in education including Pre-K through 12th and 49th in higher education. Overall, the state was ranked last in the nation.
    Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc.May 8, 2023

    Nothing trickery involved. It is all about raising revenue.
    Not really hard to do, if you know how. And Joe is a genius
    in that regard. A true genius.

    The Last time that Joe was considered a genius was never.
    Want proof?

    He played halfback with the "Blue Chicks" freshman football team (at the
    time, freshmen were not eligible to play varsity sports). However, when he got a poor 1.9 grade point average for the semester, his parents told him that he had to give up football to concentrate on his classes.

    Word out of the White House is that President Joe Biden wants to tout LL> GD> economic successes.
    He's doing a heck of a job so far. And it keeps getting better.

    Then please do if you can explain his poor approval rating of 39% and while your explaining that maybe you can also explain why it is continuing to drop.

    He's even embracing the slogan "Bidenomics" which most people think i term of derision and policy flops.

    With the lowest unemployment in decades and high wages everywhere,
    nobody seems to be complaining. Except jealous Republicans and MAGA nutjobs who never could put any kind of economic plan together.

    Trump had lower employment numbers and it was a 50 Year low.
    There is NO way that your clown of a President; who stammers and gets confused often, drops his sun glasses & can't even put on his own overcoat as he steps off Marine One. He Falls on the stairs up to Air Force One, on several occasions. (they had make use of smaller steps to try to eliminate this embarrassing optic which people from the around the planet have seen.)
    He (Biden) is not respected on the World Stage.
    There is no way that Biden can even come close to Trump, with his accomplishments or what Mr. Trump did in office as President.
    You and others are living in a dreamworld and are completely delusional if you and others think otherwise.

    Seems like Bidenomics is off to a great start. After eight years,
    plus another eight years of whatever Kamala give us, you'll never
    remember a word of what you wrote.

    Cracking down on Junk Fees and Health Care Costs
    which is apart of Bidenomics according to The White House. https://tinyurl.com/yeyvmwes
    Is not enough to stuck out your chest and proclaim look what I did.
    Sit Down Moron.

    Bidenomics' a scam
    Skyrocketing inflation, record high gas prices, and trillions in reckless inflationary spending are just a few of the ways the Biden administration has punished the American middle class.

    When the vast majority of Americans realize Biden's economic policies which can charitably be summed up as borrow and spend, tax and regulate are a disaster, Biden's handlers react with a familiar strategy: Lie. When voters hate what you are doing, don't change. Just market it differently, and call it Bidenomics."

    You're a visual guy right Lee?
    Well take a look at this..

    Proclaimed by Biden: 13M Jobs
    Reality: 3.8M

    Proclaimed by Biden: Inflation Down
    Reality: 16% total

    Proclaimed by Biden: Wages Up
    Reality: 5% drop in real wages after inflation down 26 straight months

    Proclaimed by Biden: Oil,Gas Down
    Reality: At 9-week hig, Gas 48% Higher

    Proclaimed by Biden: Manufacturing Boom
    Reality: Down 8 straight months; just 14k manufacturing jobs created over past year
    These "numbers" look like the door game Barren Realms "not so" Elite.

    More to the point.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA18llmdoz0

    Oh trust me you don't need to worry about my memory.
    I'm not the one living in the swamp baking at 112° degrees, w/ the alligators and snakes.
    Nope. I'm Good right where I am, Home of Uncle Sam.

    Want Proof?
    In 1961, the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate unanimously passed a law which proclaimed that Samuel Wilson of Troy, New York, was the progenitor of the nation's symbol, Uncle Sam, and that Troy is the official home of
    Uncle Sam.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Aug 15 10:49:43 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Now in regards to the Biden administration, that is easy.
    Can all be summed up in one word - Bidenomics.

    Inflation is still too dam high,

    Inflation is far lower than it was, now at 3.2% - a sign of how
    far we have come since Biden took office.

    the packages and containers of food items are smaller and yet the prices of
    these food items are cost more.

    Looks can be deceiving. The fact of the matter is that people are
    working, having good jobs with great pay. Unemployment is low, about
    the only folks not working being those with no skills or ability to
    work.

    If the sizes were the same size in the before time, you would see a full scale pandemonium at the supermarket.

    Well, it's true most Americans are grossly overweight. I'll bet
    at least two-thirds of them are already diabetic, the walking dead
    amongst us.

    The United States had it credit rating dropped, this happened for first time
    under Obozo. Another idiot that was never qualified.
    It has also recently happened under Biden.

    So what? Nobody saves money anyway. If you want to make money,
    you have to spend it. Preferably somebody else's money. That is
    how things work, and are supposed to work. Everybody knows that.

    Bond prices decline when interest rates rise, when the issuer experiences a
    negative credit event, or as market liquidity dries up.

    Most people are more interested in spending money rather than
    saving money. So what does it matter to them how much interest
    rates rise?

    You might be a bit to far south to actually understand the Bidenomics
    is a more then just a scam, it is trickery.

    My education is far superior to yours.

    Please. Don't make me laugh.

    Want Proof?

    This should be good.

    People in states in the Northeast tend to be among the most educated in America, with higher percentages of the population holding higher education
    degrees, according to a U.S. News analysis.




    How does Louisiana rank in education?

    I went to Harvard on the Bayou.
    Lettered in Government/Political Science,
    with emphasis on Political Philosophy.

    Where did you attempt to go to school?

    Louisiana ranks 46th in education including Pre-K through 12th and 49th in higher education. Overall, the state was ranked last in the nation.

    We're talking about universities, not pre-school.
    Real universities, with graduate schools.

    But you want to talk about education in Louisiana.
    Where teachers pre-K through high school are expected
    to have a Masters in Education and work for peanuts.
    Which might explain why so many teachers are leaving
    Louisiana, as the pay is lousy.

    I know how it is in Louisiana. I taught school in these
    parts, a long time ago, for one year. Made far more playing
    music than teaching children.

    Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc.May 8, 2023

    I am sure your quote is well within fair use. :)

    Nothing trickery involved. It is all about raising revenue.
    Not really hard to do, if you know how. And Joe is a genius
    in that regard. A true genius.

    The Last time that Joe was considered a genius was never.
    Want proof?

    Dr. Jill gave him all the proof he could ever need or want.

    He played halfback with the "Blue Chicks" freshman football team (at the time, freshmen were not eligible to play varsity sports). However, when he got a poor 1.9 grade point average for the semester, his parents told him that he had to give up football to concentrate on his classes.

    Thank God he gave up football and became a lawyer.

    Word out of the White House is that President Joe Biden wants to tout
    economic successes.
    He's doing a heck of a job so far. And it keeps getting better.

    Then please do if you can explain his poor approval rating of 39% and while
    your explaining that maybe you can also explain why it is continuing to drop.

    He is trouncing RFK, Jr. in the polls.
    He is also trouncing a woman wannabe in the polls.
    As well as a former president in the polls.
    Along with all other pretenders to the throne.
    And nobody is even talking about the other Joe.
    The Joe from West Virginia who has No Label.

    He's even embracing the slogan "Bidenomics" which most people think i
    term of derision and policy flops.

    With the lowest unemployment in decades and high wages everywhere,
    nobody seems to be complaining. Except jealous Republicans and MAGA
    nutjobs who never could put any kind of economic plan together.

    Trump had lower employment numbers and it was a 50 Year low.

    People had no jobs due to the pandemic. Trump's handling of the
    pandemic was abysmal, but that is another story.

    There is NO way that your clown of a President; who stammers and gets confused often, drops his sun glasses & can't even put on his own overcoat as he steps off Marine One. He Falls on the stairs up to Air Force One, on several occasions. (they had make use of smaller steps to try to eliminate this embarrassing optic which people from the around the planet have seen.)
    He (Biden) is not respected on the World Stage.

    And yet Biden has outperformed Trump in virtually every category,
    especially in terms of jobs creation and economic policy.

    There is no way that Biden can even come close to Trump, with his accomplishments or what Mr. Trump did in office as President.

    Trump was a embarrassment to us all. Not only in the way he acted,
    but also in the policies he enacted/pursued.

    You and others are living in a dreamworld and are completely delusional if you and others think otherwise.

    Full employment and low inflation are what most folks love and
    appreciate, which is why Biden is likely to win a second term.

    Seems like Bidenomics is off to a great start. After eight years,
    plus another eight years of whatever Kamala give us, you'll never
    remember a word of what you wrote.

    Cracking down on Junk Fees and Health Care Costs
    which is apart of Bidenomics according to The White House. https://tinyurl.com/yeyvmwes
    Is not enough to stuck out your chest and proclaim look what I did.
    Sit Down Moron.

    Access to quality health care is the first of all human rights.
    Denying such access to anybody - especially on the basis of sexual
    orientation or preference - is inhuman and a violation of the UN
    Declaration on Human Rights.

    Trump tried to do away with Obamacare, but John McCain saved the
    day for those in America who believe in equality and justice for
    all. Trump also had publicly stated his desire to put an end to
    social security, medicare, and medicaid - but Biden beat the crap
    out of him in the presidential election thus saving our elderly
    and disabled from that fate.

    Bidenomics' a scam Skyrocketing inflation, record high gas prices, and trillions in reckless inflationary spending are just a few of the ways the Biden administration has punished the American middle class.

    Inflation is a mere 3.2% with full employment, happy days for all.
    People have jobs, can afford to pay for whatever they want/need.
    Times are good. And getting better. So who's complaining?

    When the vast majority of Americans realize Biden's economic policies which
    can charitably be summed up as borrow and spend, tax and regulate are a disaster, Biden's handlers react with a familiar strategy: Lie.

    Bidenomics is growing the American economy from the middle out
    and the bottom up, not the top down.

    IOW, Bidenomics is not Reaganomics. And was never intended to be.
    Tax cuts for the wealthy was never part of Biden's game. Even though
    that is what Reagan (and Trump) loved.

    When voters hate what you are doing, don't change.

    Biden beat the crap out of Trump by over 7 million votes
    in the 2020 presidential election. And also easily won the
    electoral college.

    Just market it differently, an call it Bidenomics."

    Bidenomics is *not* trickle-down econonics.

    You're a visual guy right Lee?
    Well take a look at this..

    Proclaimed by Biden: 13M Jobs
    Reality: 3.8M

    Proclaimed by Biden: Inflation Down
    Reality: 16% total

    Proclaimed by Biden: Wages Up
    Reality: 5% drop in real wages after inflation down 26 straight months

    Proclaimed by Biden: Oil,Gas Down
    Reality: At 9-week hig, Gas 48% Higher

    Proclaimed by Biden: Manufacturing Boom
    Reality: Down 8 straight months; just 14k manufacturing jobs
    created over past year
    These "numbers" look like the door game Barren Realms "not so" Elite.

    More to the point.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA18llmdoz0


    A very slanted view, to be sure. But what is the reality?

    Oh trust me you don't need to worry about my memory.

    Biden's handlers can handle his.

    I'm not the one living in the swamp baking at 112° degrees, w/ the alligators and snakes.

    Snakes are easy to handle, as all you need is a stick.
    Alligators are also easy, as long as you remember to run zigzag
    rather than in a straight line.

    Nope. I'm Good right where I am, Home of Uncle Sam.

    Oh, come now. Nobody can be that old.

    Want Proof?

    Uh-oh. Here it comes ...

    In 1961, the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate unanimously passed a law which proclaimed that Samuel Wilson of Troy, New York, was the progenitor of the nation's symbol, Uncle Sam, and that Troy is the official
    home of Uncle Sam.

    And I take it you are his nephew?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Aug 15 21:26:53 2023
    Inflation is far lower than it was, now at 3.2% - a sign of how
    far we have come since Biden took office.
    Inflation is still very much a problem.
    Here in New York Gasoline is up again, in some places it's above $4.00 a gallon.

    You want to paint a rosy picture of Biden.
    There is No Evidence to suggest, that anything that your stating is accurate. Furthermore his approval rating shows it.

    Look for yourself
    https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

    Biden beat the crap out of Trump by over 7 million votes
    in the 2020 presidential election. And also easily won the
    electoral college.

    Easy to do when he (Biden) cheated, but before you blame me for saying so,
    you might want to look at Hillary and what she said and did when she lost.

    We can re-visit this Bidenomics in a few months.
    History might be your greatest foe, as it will show (I am predicting)
    It will not be kind to Biden.
    You don't want to believe with what it really is, in the here and now, thats more then fine, I will gladly let the numbers prove my point in a few months.

    Snakes are easy to handle, as all you need is a stick.

    Yeah when the snake spits back a wooden spoon, it's too late.
    Alligators are also easy, as long as you remember to run zigzag
    rather than in a straight line.

    Yeah and then the Alpha is waiting for you on the other side as you run right into him, and dinner is served but it's not very satisfying of a meal from the bones of Lee. More like a happy meal of a comfort, and no prize. just a puny
    liberal who thought he knew better.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Aug 16 20:50:40 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Inflation is far lower than it was, now at 3.2% - a sign of how
    far we have come since Biden took office.

    Inflation is still very much a problem.

    Not really. The economy is now in much better shape, with people
    having jobs with good pay, the pandemic finally over with mandates
    having been lifted. While some folks might say the current rate
    of 3.2% inflation is still too high, the idea of deflation is far
    worse.

    Here in New York Gasoline is up again, in some places it's above $4.00 a gallon.

    So what? Most folks can easily afford to pay the price of gas,
    without government assistance of any kind. Think of the alternative,
    gas costing a mere quarter a gallon with nobody able to pay.

    You want to paint a rosy picture of Biden.

    It isn't hard to do with the kind of job he is doing.

    There is No Evidence to suggest, that anything that your stating is accurate.

    Numbers speak louder than words. Everybody who wants a job has a job.
    With good pay. Inflation is virtually non-existent, currently at 3.2%. Bidenomics is working - even better than any economist could dream.
    What is there more to say?

    Furthermore his approval rating shows it.

    To the consternation of RFK, Jr., Joe Manchin, and Donald Trump.

    Look for yourself

    I did. Biden wins his party's nomination hands down.
    And a second consecutive term, regardless of opponent(s).

    https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/


    Polls are just snapshots of brief moments in time. That is why
    nobody has ever been able to get a picture of Joe standing up while
    going up or down the stairs on Air Force One.

    Biden beat the crap out of Trump by over 7 million votes
    in the 2020 presidential election. And also easily won the
    electoral college.

    Easy to do when he (Biden) cheated, but before you blame me for saying so, you might want to look at Hillary and what she said and did when she lost.

    Donald Trump went 0 for 60 in the courts, making unsupported and unsubstantiated claims concerning the election. That is a perfect
    record.

    Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump and congratulated him for having
    won their contest, and even showed up for the inauguration.

    But then, Clinton is an honorable politician.

    Something Trump is apparently incapable of being or becoming.

    We can re-visit this Bidenomics in a few months.

    Why wait? We can see results now. Of course, things keep getting
    better, as time goes on. And just think of what this country will
    be, or become, when Biden completes his second term. And we have
    not even gotten started with Kamala ...

    History might be your greatest foe, as it will show (I am predicting)

    The only incumbent Democrat who lost his bid for a second consecutive
    term in the 20th century was Jimmy Carter. And that was only because
    Reagan traded arms for hostages (Iran/Contra) by using Ollie North as
    his point man.

    It will not be kind to Biden.

    Joe Biden never traded arms for hostages.
    Nor did he ever make deals with Russians to skew an election.

    You don't want to believe with what it really is, in the here and now, thats
    more then fine, I will gladly let the numbers prove my point in a few months.

    The election results have already been certified as final.
    Biden won, Trump lost.

    Snakes are easy to handle, as all you need is a stick.

    Yeah when the snake spits back a wooden spoon, it's too late.

    Jimmy Carter was attacked by a killer rabbit. The President fought
    that rabbit long and hard with his boat paddle, but that rabbit was
    just too wily for the man from Plains. Imagine what all those secret
    service guys must have been thinking, all of them armed to the teeth,
    watching their meal scamper into the woods safe and sound ...

    Thank god Jimmy did not fall overboard. Otherwise, Fritz would
    have been called to duty ...

    Alligators are also easy, as long as you remember to run zigzag
    rather than in a straight line.

    Yeah and then the Alpha is waiting for you on the other side as you run right into him, and dinner is served but it's not very satisfying of a meal
    from the bones of Lee. More like a happy meal of a comfort, and no prize. just a puny liberal who thought he knew better.

    Cajuns know better than to run in a straight line when being
    chased by an alligator. Always run zigzaq, else the alligator
    will get a free meal.

    Swimming with alligators is a totally different story.

    The first time is to gain experience. If you lose an arm, or a leg,
    then take a time out. Heal. And then try again. Knowing better not to
    make the same mistake as last time.

    It really works.

    Watched a kid do it back in the 1990s. Didn't work out for him
    quite the way he had expected. One year later, after rehabilitation
    and lots of therapy, minus a leg, he tried it again. Only with lots
    of news media around, including photographers from the NYT.

    He got a double-page spread in the Sunday newspaper, color picturs
    of his stunt, swimming in Bayou Terrebonne with scores of alligators.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Aug 16 19:22:22 2023
    So what? Most folks can easily afford to pay the price of gas,

    without government assistance of any kind. Think of the alternative,
    gas costing a mere quarter a gallon with nobody able to pay.
    So what?
    You're out touch Four Dollar Gasoline is NOT normal.
    When Trump was in office the U.S. was a exporter of energy and had more then enough for ourselves as well.
    What does Biden do, the fool takes it from the National Reserves which is meant for the Military.

    https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/
    Polls are just snapshots of brief moments in time. That is why
    nobody has ever been able to get a picture of Joe standing up while
    going up or down the stairs on Air Force One.
    That link was more then SNAPSHOT that is a LIVE data up the moment.

    Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump and congratulated him for having
    won their contest, and even showed up for the inauguration.

    Yeah right, Fusion GPS, Russia Gate, The Trump / Russia Dossier which was funded by the Democratic National Committee which led to The Mueller Probe, and the Mueller Investigation. Hillary called Trumps as Presidency as illegitimate President many times, as well as suggesting he stole the election with help from Vladimir Putin. all this is true and not only this but the media also repeated this narrative across all forms a few zillion times.
    It was all fake every word of it. Much like with what your saying but with cup of stupidity as the primary ingredient.

    None of these Great things that you speak of Biden are remotely factual.

    Why wait? We can see results now.
    No it is quite alright, I will wait to where the ashes of this disaster are a gray-white then it will irrefutable that I was right.
    Additionally another reason why I am waiting is because you tend to make things up as you go along, because there is NO evidence to support your claims. I am not alone in thinking that Biden is an absolute moron. he either does not know what the hell he is doing or he is doing this horrible job on
    purpose. Time will tell in any case.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 17 04:26:50 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Gregory Deyss skrev 2023-08-16 20:50:
    Inflation is still very much a problem.

    Not really.

    Please Lee, don't waste your time on brainwashed people like this. They will never realize that they have been conned. They will rather die.

    Rather start asking them what they have done to improve the human race. Do they have kids? How have they taught those kids to withstand the propaganda from the 400 families that are all over the world sucking the juices out of the working people that are the sole contribution to our well being.

    If you cannot claim that you have left behind kids that are better than you, you are just taking up space here, so please do us all a favour, next time let your sperm end up in the toilet.

    --
    People who think that democratic elections are all about picking the right winner, are in dire need of re-education.

    ..

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Björn Felten on Wed Aug 16 23:46:31 2023
    On 17 Aug 2023, Björn Felten said the following...

    Lee Lofaso -> Gregory Deyss skrev 2023-08-16 20:50:
    Inflation is still very much a problem.

    Not really.

    Please Lee, don't waste your time on brainwashed people like this.
    They will never realize that they have been conned. They will rather die.
    What a heartfelt recommendation you have made of Lee to shield him from me and people like me who are just asking for proof of the things that he claims. but has not provided a byte of information that can be verified on the Internet.

    Here is your BIG opportunity to help your (point), or you can do nothing and he shall remain (pointless).

    Days ago I have posted a very large list of Donald Trumps accomplishments and also provided a website www.magapill.com

    He on the other hand makes crap up as he goes along, such as there is no problem with $4.00 is totally o.k. (It's far from being o.k.) and he suggests that there is not really a problem with inflation. He talks about Biden like everything is swell; like a bowl full of cherries. It's not you know. Far Far from it. The Biden Presidency has been a failure since it's beginning, what he (Biden) told the American public has not happened yet either. He promised to Unite us, but he has divided us ever farther apart and his VP don't even get me started, she is a racist piece of crap and a very dumb women. she is worse then dumb.

    Rather start asking them what they have done to improve the human
    race. Do they have kids? How have they taught those kids to withstand
    the propaganda from the 400 families that are all over the world sucking BF> the juices out of the working people that are the sole contribution to
    our well being.

    Helped the Human Race?
    The United States of America has saved the Human Race on more then one occasion.

    Stopped Nazi Germany along with the allied forces.
    If it was not for the U.S. and it's allied powers, your country of Sweden would of been wiped clean off the map like chalk from a blackboard.
    Stopped the Empire of Japan, after an unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor.
    We aid the sick and hungry around the world.
    We stand against aggression with invading countries ie: Helping Ukraine.
    If the U.S. sucks so bad why are all these "asylum seekers" coming here?

    Idk is there such a thing as the Swedish Red Cross or another humanitarian force within Sweden that does what the American Red Cross does?

    In short it is not me or my friends on the Right that you need to be concerned about. The lefties and their limitless quest for power will do far more to bring this planet to it's doom. It is not me who will submit, it is you and people like you who will bend a knee to us.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thu Aug 17 21:27:34 2023
    Hello Björn,

    Inflation is still very much a problem.

    Not really.

    Please Lee, don't waste your time on brainwashed people like this.

    Barack Obama told us all to believe in hope. And change.

    They will never realize that they have been conned.

    Obama gave us both hope, and change. Biden gave us more.

    They will rather die.

    Many did, during the pandemic. But that was then. Things were so
    bad in Florida (during the Trump administration) that only 12% of
    Floridians bothered to get vaccinated, leaving everybody else in
    the state vulnerable to COVID-19. Some 400,000+ Americans died of
    COVID-19 during the Trump administration due to his own ineptitude.
    But MAGA nutjobs consider those numbers a glorious success.

    Rather start asking them what they have done to improve the human race.

    Donald J. Trump gave us Donald J. Trump, Jr. Does that count?
    He also gave us three other kids, the entire lot of them grifters.

    Do they have kids?

    Their own, or adopted?

    How have they taught those kids to withstand the propaganda from the 400 families that are all over the world sucking the juices out of the working people that are the sole contribution to our well being.

    Grifters. It's a family business.

    If you cannot claim that you have left behind kids that are better than you,
    you are just taking up space here, so please do us all a favour, next time let your sperm end up in the toilet.

    We have a candidate for governor who had been endorsed by both
    Donald J. Trump and his son Donald J. Trump, Jr. This candidate
    is a fascist, and is the frontrunner (according to polls).

    Assuming there is a runoff (top two candidates if no candidate
    gets over 50% of the vote) his most likely opponent will be a black
    man.

    There is no way the people in this state will elect a black man
    for any statewide office, much less for governor.

    What are the hallmarks of a fascist?

    * violence
    * hate
    * bigotry
    * cruelty

    These are the four cardinal points of fascism.
    Benito Mussolini met all four.

    Whereas Donald J. Trump shares many of those same traits, I will
    not say he is a Benito Mussolini. After all, Il Duce was overthrown
    and put in jail - by his own people. Something we are still trying
    to figure out how to do over here.

    Besides, Donald J. Trump disqualified himself from serving in public
    office due to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Only a two thirds
    majority in both the House and Senate remove such disqualification.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 18 16:13:50 2023
    Hello Greg,

    So what? Most folks can easily afford to pay the price of gas,

    without government assistance of any kind. Think of the LL>alternative,
    gas costing a mere quarter a gallon with nobody LL>able to pay.

    So what?

    People have money to buy gas. So they are content, able to get what
    they need, and want. The alternative (not having money to pay for what
    they need and want) is not what anybody would or should find pleasant.

    You're out touch Four Dollar Gasoline is NOT normal.

    Having enough money to pay for what you need/want is normal, and
    should be normal. Living in abject poverty is not normal, or should
    never be normal. At least not in this country.

    When Trump was in office the U.S. was a exporter of energy and had more then
    enough for ourselves as well.

    Then tell us why we should continue mining fossil fuels that destroy
    the planet we inhabit? Far better to go green. And export natural gas,
    which Europe desperately needs, having been blackmailed by Russia for
    so long for those energy sources.

    What does Biden do, the fool takes it from the National Reserves which is meant for the Military.

    The Biden administration has been weaning us off fossil fuels in
    favor of other sources, thus saving this planet from future harm.

    https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

    Polls are just snapshots of brief moments in time. That is why
    nobody has ever been able to get a picture of Joe standing up while
    going up or down the stairs on Air Force One.

    That link was more then SNAPSHOT that is a LIVE data up the moment.

    There is only one poll that truly counts. Not the one you cited.

    Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump and congratulated him for LL<having
    won their contest, and even showed up for the inauguration.

    Yeah right, Fusion GPS, Russia Gate, The Trump / Russia Dossier which was funded by the Democratic National Committee which led to The Mueller Probe,
    and the Mueller Investigation.

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump. Convicted.
    And then pardoned by Trump after he was elected. A definite conspracy
    between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin's Russia.

    Hillary called Trumps as Presidency as illegitimate President many times, as
    well as suggesting he stole the election with help from Vladimir Putin.

    She was being nice.

    all this is true

    Of course it is. You can look it up, as it is a matter of record.
    Paul Manafort. Guilty. And later pardoned, by Trump.

    and not only this but the media also repeated this narrative across all forms a few zillion times.

    As Walter Cronkite would say ... "and that's the way it was ..."

    It was all fake every word of it.

    Kind of like Donald Trump's orange hair? At least Hillary Clinton
    was honest, admitting she dyes her own.

    Much like with what your saying but with cup of stupidity as the primary ingredient.

    Trump went 0-60 in his wild claims concerning his loss to Biden.
    How many fake claims did Clinton make? None. She accepted the results,
    and congratulated her opponent.

    None of these Great things that you speak of Biden are remotely factual.

    If Democrats did not have Joe Biden, they would have to create him.
    But fortunately for us all, he is real. And serves each and every one
    of us. Regardless of party affiliation, or none.

    Why wait? We can see results now.

    No it is quite alright, I will wait to where the ashes of this disaster are
    a gray-white then it will irrefutable that I was right.

    Well, being that he is term-limited due to the 22nd Amendment, you
    still have a few years to wait. And then a few more after Kamala Harris
    has her turn.

    Additionally another reason why I am waiting is because you tend to make things up as you go along,

    Say wha'? You know darn good and well I never lie! Louisiana has
    the best politicians that money can buy! And like Doug Kershaw sang
    so many times (at age 87, he is still performing) I'm a Louisiana
    man!

    because there is NO evidence to support your claims.

    I have called Donald Trump many things, but never have I ever called
    him stupid. A malignant narcissist to be sure, and a true psychopath.
    But also very smart. Maybe not a "stable genius" as he claims, but
    still genius enough to fool at least some of the people some of the
    time.

    I am not alone in thinking that Biden is an absolute moron.

    No absolute moron could possible stumble as many times as Biden
    has and not get hurt. And yet, he is still at it, continuing his
    act, even at age 80. Just imagine the antics he will be doing at
    age 86, when he finishes he second term ...

    he either does not know what the hell he is doing or he is doing this horrible job on purpose.

    And to think Biden did it, multiple times, without the use of any
    guard rails. Amazing feat for an athletic man in his prime to do it.
    With practice. But not for Biden, who is a born natural ...

    Time will tell in any case.

    Oh, come now. Do realize Biden plays with his dogs, all of them
    German Shepherds. Presumably trained. Fetch!

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Aug 19 10:22:40 2023
    On 18 Aug 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Greg,

    So what? Most folks can easily afford to pay the price of gas,

    without government assistance of any kind. Think of the LL>alternativ
    gas costing a mere quarter a gallon with nobody LL>able to pay.

    So what?

    People have money to buy gas. So they are content, able to get what
    they need, and want. The alternative (not having money to pay for what they need and want) is not what anybody would or should find pleasant.

    You're out touch Four Dollar Gasoline is NOT normal.

    Having enough money to pay for what you need/want is normal, and
    should be normal. Living in abject poverty is not normal, or should
    never be normal. At least not in this country.

    $4.00 dollars for one gallon is lunacy.

    When Trump was in office the U.S. was a exporter of energy and had mor
    then
    enough for ourselves as well.

    Then tell us why we should continue mining fossil fuels that destroy
    the planet we inhabit? Far better to go green. And export natural gas, which Europe desperately needs, having been blackmailed by Russia for
    so long for those energy sources.

    Well we had a President that stood up to Russia, his name was Donald Trump.
    We now have a President that rolls over to Russia as it relates to energy.

    What does Biden do, the fool takes it from the National Reserves which
    meant for the Military.

    The Biden administration has been weaning us off fossil fuels in
    favor of other sources, thus saving this planet from future harm.
    These GREEN other sources that have been continuously pushed by the Democratic Party; it is really nothing more then money hungry initiative.
    That is where the real focus is. It's couched up and hoaxed up with the idea that has to do more with a lie than it has anything to do with saving the planet.
    These fake people always wear a sad frown as they pull or (yank) at your heartstrings and they say things like "Don't U care about the earth?"
    Meanwhile within dimly lit back-rooms millions of dollars are being passed about.

    Proterra Inc., the electric bus maker touted by President Joe Biden that filed for bankruptcy this week, was the recipient of millions of dollars in US Covid-relief government aid.Aug 9, 2023

    Electric vehicle company that Biden defended in his eco-alarmist speeches files for bankruptcy
    https://tinyurl.com/vazv6yz6

    Promoter of Bogus Green Energy Firm Based in Montgomery County Sentenced to 18 Years for $54 Million Ponzi Scheme
    https://tinyurl.com/2pc4p4um

    Remembering "Solyndra" How Many $570M Green Energy Failures Are Hidden Inside Biden's Infrastructure Proposal?
    https://tinyurl.com/25yec4a5

    I am not alone in thinking that Biden is an absolute moron.

    No absolute moron could possible stumble as many times as Biden
    has and not get hurt. And yet, he is still at it, continuing his
    act, even at age 80. Just imagine the antics he will be doing at
    age 86, when he finishes he second term ...

    He is already the oldest President that the U.S. has ever had, consequently
    he is least respected throughout the world, because then man exhibits weakness. It's the Biden gaffes that put the icing on the cake.
    Saying things like the Grand Cannon is the 9th wonder of the world. DUMB AF!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Aug 20 20:03:35 2023
    Hello Greg,

    So what? Most folks can easily afford to pay the price of gas,

    without government assistance of any kind. Think of the
    alternativ
    gas costing a mere quarter a gallon with nobody LL>able to pay.

    So what?

    People have money to buy gas. So they are content, able to get what
    they need, and want. The alternative (not having money to pay for
    what
    they need and want) is not what anybody would or should find
    pleasant.

    You're out touch Four Dollar Gasoline is NOT normal.

    Having enough money to pay for what you need/want is normal, and
    should be normal. Living in abject poverty is not normal, or should
    never be normal. At least not in this country.

    $4.00 dollars for one gallon is lunacy.

    What makes you think that? People have the money to pay for it, so
    why would any of them want to complain? I do realize everybody wants
    to get something for nothing, including a free lunch. But lets get
    real. The cost of gas is always going to cost something.

    When Trump was in office the U.S. was a exporter of energy and
    had mor
    then
    enough for ourselves as well.

    Then tell us why we should continue mining fossil fuels that destroy
    the planet we inhabit? Far better to go green. And export natural gas,
    which Europe desperately needs, having been blackmailed by Russia for
    so long for those energy sources.

    Well we had a President that stood up to Russia, his name was Donald Trump.

    We all saw Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin step behind the curtain
    to make a deal between themselves in Helsinki - telling nobody what
    they discussed in private between themselves. Trump later attempted
    to blackmail Zelenskyy, knowing Ukraine needed military assistance
    to fend off threats from Russia.

    Had Trump managed to win the 2020 election, there would have been
    no Russian invasion of Ukraine, as that former country would have
    become nothing but a province of Russia - with Zelenskyy and his
    family either rotting inside a Russian gulag, or dead.

    We now have a President that rolls over to Russia as it relates to energy.

    Excuse me? Many countries in Europe have switched from buying
    oil and gas from Russia to buying that good stuff from the USA
    and other civilized countries.

    What does Biden do, the fool takes it from the National Reserves
    which
    meant for the Military.

    The Biden administration has been weaning us off fossil fuels in
    favor of other sources, thus saving this planet from future harm.

    These GREEN other sources that have been continuously pushed by the Democratic Party; it is really nothing more then money hungry initiative. That is where the real focus is. It's couched up and hoaxed up with the idea
    that has to do more with a lie than it has anything to do with saving the planet.

    Joe Biden knows what is good for us.
    Donald Trump knows what is good for his own self.
    Saving this planet is what we should all view as good for us.

    These fake people always wear a sad frown as they pull or (yank) at your heartstrings and they say things like "Don't U care about the earth?" Meanwhile within dimly lit back-rooms millions of dollars are being passed about.

    The use of coal is waning. So why should this country invest in
    a business or industry that has no future? Much better to invest
    in natural gas, solar energy, wind farms, etc.

    Proterra Inc., the electric bus maker touted by President Joe Biden that filed for bankruptcy this week, was the recipient of millions of dollars in
    US Covid-relief government aid.Aug 9, 2023

    Electric cars and trucks are being manufactured now, and are the
    wave of the future. In a few years, they will be the standard. Not
    the archaic gasoline and diesel behemoths that in use today.

    Electric vehicle company that Biden defended in his eco-alarmist speeches files for bankruptcy
    https://tinyurl.com/vazv6yz6


    Not all companies are going to be successful.
    Some seek reorganization. Others merge, or drop
    out of competition.

    Promoter of Bogus Green Energy Firm Based in Montgomery County Sentenced to
    18 Years for $54 Million Ponzi Scheme
    https://tinyurl.com/2pc4p4um


    That's what happens when crooks get caught. Of course, crooks
    never limit themselves to green energy ...

    Remembering "Solyndra" How Many $570M Green Energy Failures Are Hidden Inside Biden's Infrastructure Proposal?
    https://tinyurl.com/25yec4a5


    The only problem with Biden's infrastructure proposal was it was
    not nearly large enough. Given how much and how fast the economy has
    expanded since the version he put forth was passed, just imagine how
    much more it would have been had his original proposal been passed.

    I am not alone in thinking that Biden is an absolute moron.

    No absolute moron could possible stumble as many times as Biden
    has and not get hurt. And yet, he is still at it, continuing his
    act, even at age 80. Just imagine the antics he will be doing at
    age 86, when he finishes he second term ...

    He is already the oldest President that the U.S. has ever had,

    Why would that be a problem? He is in great health, given his age.
    He has full use of all his body parts, and remains mentally cognizant.

    consequently he is least respected throughout the world,

    He has the full respect of all members of NATO, the heads of state
    of every country in the European Union, and even great respect among
    leaders in Asia, such as those in South Korea, Japan, the Philippines,
    and even India (whose leader used to be very friendly with Putin).

    because then man exhibits weakness.

    Vladimir Putin hates his guts. Why? Because unlike Trump, Biden did
    not roll over and play dead when Putin invaded Ukraine. Rather than
    divide NATO (as Trump did) Biden united NATO and even expanded its
    membership. And also gave economic and military assistance to Ukraine,
    as well as convincing NATO countries to do the same. Pluse an embargo
    on goods from Russia, thus putting a squeeze on their rouble, now
    worth nothing more than a US penny.

    It's the Biden gaffes that put the icing on the cake.

    Biden has spoken loud and clear to the Russian dictator.

    Saying things like the Grand Cannon is the 9th wonder of the world. DUMB AF!

    Makes sense.
    The Navajo Nation loves it.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 20 21:22:07 2023
    $4.00 dollars for one gallon is lunacy.
    What makes you think that? People have the money to pay for it, so
    why would any of them want to complain?

    Ahh glad you asked, because I remember what I used to pay Trump was in
    office, and we more importantly did not have a war on oil.

    We all saw Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin step behind the curtain
    to make a deal between themselves in Helsinki - telling nobody what
    they discussed in private between themselves. Trump later attempted
    to blackmail Zelenskyy, knowing Ukraine needed military assistance
    to fend off threats from Russia.

    Yeah that kind of thinking doesn't work, because that was theory was already tried, he was impeached (from that very line of thought) you just mentioned. But... More importantly he as acquitted.

    Had Trump managed to win the 2020 election, there would have been
    no Russian invasion of Ukraine, as that former country would have
    become nothing but a province of Russia - with Zelenskyy and his
    family either rotting inside a Russian gulag, or dead.

    Are you getting bit by flying insects, like 12x times every second or something? I am becoming concerned because your judgment (is worse then usual) now your really starting to reach for the insane of what if? CNN and MSNBC, would call him worse than Hitler.. oh wait a minute, - they already have... True Story Bub. This is how much they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    We now have a President that rolls over to Russia as it relates to ene

    Excuse me? Many countries in Europe have switched from buying
    oil and gas from Russia to buying that good stuff from the USA
    and other civilized countries.

    No Excuse me, they were getting energy from the U.S. under Trump but geriatric Biden screwed that up as he stopped the drilling, stopped the fracking, put a kibosh to the Keystone XL pipeline nearly upon talking office.

    These GREEN other sources that have been continuously pushed by the Democratic Party; it is really nothing more then money hungry initiati
    That is where the real focus is. It's couched up and hoaxed up with th
    idea
    that has to do more with a lie than it has anything to do with saving
    planet.

    Joe Biden knows what is good for us.
    The only sure thing that Joe Biden knows is that he really likes
    Chocolate Chip Ice Cream.
    Seriously we DO know that for sure, because he has refused to this very day of taking a competency test. Trump passed this w/ flying colors but Biden throws a tantrum when the press has mentioned this and he (Biden) gets very defensive, mmmm I wonder why?

    Saying things like the Grand Cannon is the 9th wonder of the world. D AF!

    Makes sense.
    The Navajo Nation loves it.
    No Comment.

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