• Enjoy the Trump

    From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to All on Fri Jul 28 23:29:18 2023
    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for president even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irritate the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trump will take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!

    Suck it up, buttercups!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 28 21:01:16 2023
    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for president even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    There is a very good chance of that.

    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irritate
    the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trump wil
    take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!

    Chosen by god?

    Suck it up, buttercups!

    Sure!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Jul 29 08:21:00 2023
    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for presid
    nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against it?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 12:52:43 2023
    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irri
    the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trum
    take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone i chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!

    Chosen by god?

    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office, they pray to God for help with these unfair and inhumane Democrat border practices. God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest opponent to slavery and border deaths that we'll ever find.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 29 12:09:14 2023
    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irri >> >the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trum >> > take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone i >> > chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!

    Chosen by god?

    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,

    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.

    they pray to God for help with these unfair and inhumane Democrat border practices.

    Prayer is good but it would be better if they voted for representation that is willing and capable to make changes to border policy, and implement it.

    God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest opponent to slavery and border deaths that we'll ever find.

    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Trump didn't even build the border wall he promised. Just so you know, Mexico did not pay for what he did build. Americans did.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 29 13:05:32 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Chosen by god?

    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000
    people die along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office, they pray
    to God for help with these unfair and inhumane Democrat border
    practices. God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest
    opponent to slavery and border deaths that we'll ever find.


    God chooses the perfect man and not perfect men.

    We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 29 15:46:19 2023
    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irritate the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how
    much BS Trump will take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
    Wow! Now THAT is a message, well done!

    Suck it up, buttercups!
    Yup they are a bunch of cupcakes too/ w sprinkles.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 14:10:37 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 peopl along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,

    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.


    Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution... Texas as of late is trying to stop people from dying... they are adding a floating barge/fence across the Rio Grand... Feds are suing because Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...

    Bill Clinton is pissed off that Joe came up with the idea before he did.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 14:11:12 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.


    Best president in our time

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 15:51:40 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for president even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    There is a very good chance of that.

    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irrit
    the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trump
    take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is
    chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!

    Chosen by god?
    You really do not have any idea.
    Enjoy the show, but you really should notice the exits,
    before you sit down w/ popcorn to do so.

    You can kick and scream all you want, but Gods will will be done.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 14:07:18 2023
    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.

    Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution... Texas as of late is trying to stop people from dying... they are adding a floating barge/fence across the Rio Grand... Feds are suing because Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...

    That is more rightwing spin.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 14:08:16 2023
    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Best president in our time

    Got anything to back that up?

    What do historians have to say?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Jul 29 14:11:04 2023
    Chosen by god?

    You really do not have any idea.

    You are right. All this time I thought the people of the USA were electing their president.

    Enjoy the show, but you really should notice the exits,
    before you sit down w/ popcorn to do so.

    There is a side of me that does enjoy the show.

    You can kick and scream all you want, but Gods will will be done.

    I'm not kicking or screaming.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 18:45:46 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.

    Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution... Texas as of late is trying to stop people from dying... they are adding floating barge/fence across the Rio Grand... Feds are suing because Bide says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...

    That is more rightwing spin.


    I just looked at your origin line...

    https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181244928/texas-floating-barrier-rio-grande

    There NPR... can't get any more left-wing than that...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 18:47:47 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Best president in our time

    Got anything to back that up?


    https://www.theodysseyonline.com/10-reasons-president-trump-best-president-have -ever

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 03:46:07 2023
    IB Joe -> Alan Ianson skrev 2023-07-30 02:47:
    Got anything to back that up?

    https://www.theodysseyonline.com/10-reasons-president-trump-best-president-have-ever

    ROTFL! It was obvious already in May 16, 2017. :-)

    Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.

    And yes, I know it takes some intelligence to understand satire, but just the same...?


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 30 01:00:02 2023
    On 07-29-23 08:21, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Enjoy the Trump <=-


    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
    still run for presid
    nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against
    it?

    Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
    who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.

    Dale Shipp
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    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 03:32:00 2023
    I just looked at your origin line...

    https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181244928/texas-floating-barrier-rio-grande

    There NPR... can't get any more left-wing than that...

    There is nothing left-wing about the floating barriers in the Rio Grande.

    I don't expect anyone regardless of their leanings to put these kind of death traps in the way of human beings regardless of who they are or where thay are going.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Björn Felten on Sun Jul 30 06:56:51 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Björn Felten said the following...


    ROTFL! It was obvious already in May 16, 2017. :-)

    Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.

    And yes, I know it takes some intelligence to understand satire, but just the same...?


    I didn't really read it fully... I'm not sure where or what socialist/comunist country you are from....

    Trump had a rally after he left office, Texas. ~85,000 people showed up. there was a lineup to get into the event~45 miles, ~72 KM in communism

    He had an event last night and he packed the stadium, Erie PA... PACKED. Any living president, other than Trump, cannot draw the crowds like that... Even Barry.

    Stephen Harper, Ex-Canadian Prime Minister of Canada put most conservative views...

    Why trump was elected
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFWE2jl5mwA

    I am a Populist Conservative

    What trump did for the 4 years he was in office... He put the American people first... as any leader should. He addressed the UN one time and stated this fact... I am the president of the United States and I work for the American people, paraphrased of course. After that UN speech George Soros was on TV stating Trump had to go.

    For 4 years Trump renegotiated trade deals... NAFTA... and stopped some pending ones. All the deals he negotiated put the US and the American people in a better position.

    Trump built a wall along the southern boarder to restrict illegal access into the country. Trump encouraged legal migration into the country, legal immigration into the US was at an all time high under his administration...

    Trump used border security to stop the illegal drugs from entering the country. Opioid overdoses were trending down for the first time in decades... He also was working on treatment as well. As a small note... When Joe Biden got into office he wanted to hand out crack pipes and normalize drug use.

    Again, related to border security, Trump also setup a task force to combat human and sex trafficking, with an emphasis on children... I am not sure why, but Biden ended that task force during the first few days in office. I guess Hunter needs whores and the elites need kids to screw.

    Trump ran the country like a business man. Looking at ways to get people working and products on the shelf. The Trump economy was the best in history. All sectors of the economy felt it... Male, female, black, white, educated or not. Trump's economy was a bottom up boom, people in the lower end of the economic scale felt it before the more affluent did.

    Trump was the first president in decades to not start a war... He did everything he could to unwind the ones the US was already in and make better better relationships with some bad players on the field, North Korea is an example of that.

    Living here in North America it's hard to see the decline... I mean seeing the decline is easy... it's just hard to stomach. I use to drive in to the US from Canada, Buffalo NY, it was a thriving area and now it has nothing but abandoned factories. Or driving through Detroit MI, the heart of the auto industry, where they are giving away houses for free because they have been abandoned and rotting away.

    Trump was working to revitalize those areas... it was called opportunity zones. He was allowing investors to go in, with their own money, not government money, to help the area rebuild.... Ohhh ya... Biden ended that.

    There are a lot of reasons Trump can fill a stadium, still today... There is a lot more reasons than I can to dig deeper on... Americans are fighting to keep their constitutional republic alive and they see Trump as the only person who will stand in the way of the Globalists and Elitist who are keen on taring it down.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 08:05:13 2023
    We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.

    Who's it getting exposed to though? The half wits are still asleep. This term WAS that term.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 08:11:04 2023
    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 peopl along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,

    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.

    The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering heat, and the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.

    Prayer is good but it would be better if they voted for representation that is willing and capable to make changes to border policy, and implement it.

    Democrats failed to do so when they controlled congress, and now the Republican controlled congress is also failing to act. And Biden is the icon for failure.

    God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest opponent to slaver border deaths that we'll ever find.

    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Trump didn't even build the border wall he promised. Just so you know, Mexico did not pay for what he did build. Americans did.

    Nobody cares about the border wall right now - what we care about is getting Trump's policies reinstated, because Trump's border policies worked perfectly, and Biden's border policies are killing thousands of people.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 08:15:16 2023
    Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or
    put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...

    Bill Clinton is pissed off that Joe came up with the idea before he did.

    I like the way Obama talks about slavery, murder, and sex trafficking:

    "They're just poor folks lookin for a better life." -Barrack Obama

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 30 15:10:18 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run
    for presid
    nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against it?

    Eugene Debs.

    Eat another pair of shorts, Mikey.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 07:17:38 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    I just looked at your origin line...

    https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181244928/texas-floating-barrier-rio-gra

    There NPR... can't get any more left-wing than that...

    There is nothing left-wing about the floating barriers in the Rio Grande.


    I didn't say say floating barriers was left-wing... I said NPR was a left-wing source.


    I don't expect anyone regardless of their leanings to put these kind of death traps in the way of human beings regardless of who they are or
    where thay are going.


    How about entering the US legally...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 07:24:15 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.

    Who's it getting exposed to though? The half wits are still asleep. This term WAS that term.


    I don't know what to say to you... I saw a meme the other day.... I'm not sure if the math is right but it sounds cool....

    There is 1% of the population who controls the world. There is ~4% of the population that helps them control the world, media and politicians. There is ~90% of the people asleep and or reacting like sheep.... Where as there is ~5% of the population awake and fully engaged.

    I've had my eyes opened over the past few years, I am hopeful things can be turned around... because I have grandchildren.... I hope we can shake this globalist funk we're in.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 07:25:14 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...

    Bill Clinton is pissed off that Joe came up with the idea before he d

    I like the way Obama talks about slavery, murder, and sex trafficking:

    "They're just poor folks lookin for a better life." -Barrack Obama


    Could be why he killed his cook...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 06:36:08 2023
    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.

    The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering heat, and the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.

    How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?

    Prayer is good but it would be better if they voted for representation
    that is willing and capable to make changes to border policy, and
    implement it.

    Democrats failed to do so when they controlled congress, and now the Republican controlled congress is also failing to act. And Biden is the icon for failure.

    Only in your head.

    If the American people want a different "border policy" it is up to American law makers to create policies and impliment them. That is not something Biden (or any president) can do.

    America is a nation of immigrants. That is just what it is. Canada is too.

    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Trump didn't even build the border wall he promised. Just so you know,
    Mexico did not pay for what he did build. Americans did.

    Nobody cares about the border wall right now - what we care about is getting Trump's policies reinstated, because Trump's border policies worked perfectly, and Biden's border policies are killing thousands of people.

    That is a ridiculous narrative.

    The border wall was/is a bad idea and Trump's border policies were also bad.

    "We are going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it" was a ridiculous statement to make. It is just another Trump lie among so many.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 06:45:38 2023
    There is nothing left-wing about the floating barriers in the Rio Grande.

    I didn't say say floating barriers was left-wing... I said NPR was a left-wing source.

    I couldn't say. NPR rarely turns up in my searches.

    I don't expect anyone regardless of their leanings to put these kind of
    death traps in the way of human beings regardless of who they are or
    where thay are going.

    How about entering the US legally...

    Of course Joe. Of course.

    But what about these death traps?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sun Jul 30 08:38:00 2023
    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
    still run for presid
    nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against
    it?

    Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
    who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.

    Oh, yeah, I don't remember who or when, either.

    The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and lost in
    1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in 1918. He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate which
    third party he was the candiate of.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 30 08:58:00 2023

    Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000
    eop
    along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,

    That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.


    Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution...
    exas

    Al is a moron who has proven he has absolutely no understanding of our Constitution (and probably not even his own), what obstruction of justice
    is (unless a Republican does it), or much anything else regarding our US
    legal system.

    He also lives in a very "desirable" area of BC where he and whoever he associates with likely live in a bubble (and where many are dependent on Chinese tourism money) and rarely interact with anyone who is not of their economic class.

    Since he suggested it first, I suggest we all stop responding to him until he actually posts something that proves he has more than a handful of brain cells and/or has reconnected with reality.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 30 09:32:00 2023
    I like the way Obama talks about slavery, murder, and sex trafficking:

    "They're just poor folks lookin for a better life." -Barrack Obama


    Could be why he killed his cook...

    I saw an article yesterday that questioned how a grown man, who could swim, could drown in less than X feet of water. The one thing they left out was whether or not he'd been drinking. While I would seriously question how a sober man could do it... rip current maybe, if it was not in a pool... I
    would not be so quick to question how a drunk man could do it.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 09:02:05 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    How about entering the US legally...

    Of course Joe. Of course.

    But what about these death traps?

    Are you talking about the 1000's of miles of walking in the desert crossing and all kinds of hazards. Is the cartel who ware raping and forcing people into sex trafficking...

    They should try entering legally... OR ... go through California where there aren't as many barriers.

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    AKA Joe Schweier
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 11:14:49 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.

    Sadly, yes.

    You don't miss something until you haven't got it anymore.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 08:36:52 2023
    How about entering the US legally...

    Of course Joe. Of course.

    But what about these death traps?

    Are you talking about the 1000's of miles of walking in the desert crossing and all kinds of hazards.

    No. I am talking about the Texas GOP constructed death traps.

    Is the cartel who ware raping and forcing people into sex trafficking...

    Did you just try to turn this into something sexy?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 30 09:37:41 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Since he suggested it first, I suggest we all stop responding to him
    until he actually posts something that proves he has more than a handful of brain cells and/or has reconnected with reality.


    Amen brother...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 30 09:48:10 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Could be why he killed his cook...

    I saw an article yesterday that questioned how a grown man, who could swim, could drown in less than X feet of water. The one thing they left out was whether or not he'd been drinking. While I would seriously question how a sober man could do it... rip current maybe, if it was not in a pool... I would not be so quick to question how a drunk man could
    do it.


    All kinds of funny things... It was like the changing stories behind the White House cocaine..... Here we go... It was first reported that the Obama's weren't on site. Then the phone call came from within the house, but then from the yard... NOPE ... now the 911 call came from 2 miles away.

    Now we have Obama's hand...

    https://twitter.com/Its_Gav_7/status/1685439886923530240?s=20

    He went paddle boarding so late in the day, not normal, and they couldn't find his body until the next day... The ran out of daylight about 20 minutes into the search.

    The Internet is still investigating this... More to come

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 09:51:03 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    No. I am talking about the Texas GOP constructed death traps.


    What are these death traps you are talking about?


    Is the cartel who ware raping and forcing people into sex trafficking...

    Did you just try to turn this into something sexy?


    Child sex trafficking not a funny topic... U must be one of their Johns

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jul 30 19:10:00 2023
    Hello Greg,

    When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to
    irritate the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how
    much BS Trump will take before he gives up, but what they don't get,
    is
    that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping
    them!
    Wow! Now THAT is a message, well done!

    Suck it up, buttercups!

    Yup they are a bunch of cupcakes too/ w sprinkles.

    Who, or what, is your God?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sun Jul 30 19:10:13 2023
    Hello Björn,

    IB Joe -> Alan Ianson skrev 2023-07-30 02:47:
    Got anything to back that up?


    https://www.theodysseyonline.com/10-reasons-president-trump-best-president-have-ever

    ROTFL! It was obvious already in May 16, 2017. :-)

    That may be. But what happened this past Tuesday, on June 25, was
    even more obvious. Not only to the news media, but to all who were
    there when it happened. Including me.

    In the French Quarter, at Café du Monde (a world-famous coffee house),
    a morbidly obese man with orange hair dressed in a suit and tie walked
    in, and told the waitress "Give me your best!"

    She smiled, and within a minute or two handed the large man a brown
    paper bag, filled with one café au lait and three beignets. And then
    he walked out, happy as a lark, making his way to his campaign event.

    For a man who claims not to drink coffee and needing to go on a diet,
    I found it very amusing to find how fast he could walk. Especially in
    a place what was crowded, with every seat taken.

    Unfortunately, the battery on my cell phone had run out of juice
    and I was unable to get a picture of myself with the great man. But
    he had a deal, a very special deal, for anybody who wanted one. For
    $23,200 USD folks could get a photo op at his event - singles and
    couples.

    I stayed at Café du Monde and enjoyed by coffee and french donuts.

    Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.

    Donald Trump landed at LANOI airport in New Orleans at 4:00 CST
    on Tuesday, and was escorted to the French Quarter where he made
    his way to Café du Monde at 4:30 CST, then five minutes later
    was brought to his campaign event, where he raised $2 million USD.

    Not a bad haul for a fat man way past his prime.

    And yes, I know it takes some intelligence to understand satire, but just the same...?

    "Life is a jelly donut." ~JFK

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 20:59:14 2023
    Trump is a bumbling bafoon.

    Best president in our time

    Got anything to back that up?

    What do historians have to say?

    We are all historians. What have we been saying?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Björn Felten on Sun Jul 30 21:03:26 2023
    Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.

    Everything the media says can be labeled as "satire." There's no media company that's more reputable than the next.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 31 03:25:49 2023
    I didn't really read it fully...

    As I said, that was obvious. And did understand zero of it.

    Trump had a rally after he left office, Texas. ~85,000 people showed up.

    I don't think that counts when judging a POTUS. It's usually something like this:

    Popular vote 81,283,501 74,223,975

    there was a lineup to get into the event~45 miles, ~72 KM in communism

    In communism? Does that mean that the entire world, but the USA, is communist? Well, well, well, how's that for ignorance...?

    What's painfully obvious is, however, that not a single MAGA cult member can name a single thing that TRE45ON accomplished, that made *their* life better. Only what their cult leader claims to have done to make *other* peoples life better.

    How did 85,000 worshippers showing up in Texas make *your* life better?


    --
    People who think that democratic elections are all about picking the right winner, are in dire need of re-education.

    ..

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 21:49:45 2023
    I've had my eyes opened over the past few years, I am hopeful things can be turned around... because I have grandchildren.... I hope we can shake this globalist funk we're in.

    We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 30 22:05:48 2023
    The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering heat, AI> > AI> > a
    the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.

    How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?

    He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.

    "No covid testing for migrants."
    "Migrants will not be forced to vaccinate."
    "Migrants will not be forced to remain in Mexico."
    "Migrants will get free hotel rooms."
    "Migrants will be released before we even check their criminal records."

    He's inviting them here, but he's not providing them with safe transportation, and he's not keeping the ones with criminal records out of the country. If they don't die inside the tank of a propane truck, or in the river, then they'll die when they mess with the wrong Americans.

    Would you invite someone to your home if you knew FOR A FACT that they'd be risking their lives to get there? I don't think you would - because you're not a lousy person. Only jerks will invite people over for drinks and then at the end of the night, send them driving home all wasted.

    What Joe's doing is the same thing but way worse.

    Democrats failed to do so when they controlled congress, and now the Republican controlled congress is also failing to act. And Biden is the AI> > AI> >
    for failure.

    Only in your head.

    Which part is only in my head? Because everything I said is a fact except for the Biden-Icon thing.

    If the American people want a different "border policy" it is up to American law makers to create policies and impliment them. That is not something Biden (or any president) can do.

    In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." He/she can create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these orders "laws," but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL. Trump made one that required migrants to remain in Mexico while their requests for asylum were processed. Biden put that policy in the shredder and invited millions of illegal migrants to walk right in.

    Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 20:55:24 2023
    No. I am talking about the Texas GOP constructed death traps.

    What are these death traps you are talking about?

    The newly installed razor wire barricades in the Rio Grande.

    Did you just try to turn this into something sexy?

    Child sex trafficking not a funny topic...

    It isn't. I thought we were talking about border security.

    U must be one of their Johns

    No, you are just spinning up dirt.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 21:11:22 2023
    Got anything to back that up?

    What do historians have to say?

    We are all historians. What have we been saying?

    OK, thanks!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 22:46:40 2023
    How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?

    He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.

    "No covid testing for migrants."
    "Migrants will not be forced to vaccinate."
    "Migrants will not be forced to remain in Mexico."
    "Migrants will get free hotel rooms."
    "Migrants will be released before we even check their criminal records."

    He's inviting them here, but he's not providing them with safe transportation, >and he's not keeping the ones with criminal records out of the country. If the >don't die inside the tank of a propane truck, or in the river, then they'll di
    when they mess with the wrong Americans.

    You are in deep.

    If the American people want a different "border policy" it is up to
    American law makers to create policies and impliment them. That is not
    something Biden (or any president) can do.

    In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." He/she can
    create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these orders "laws,"
    but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL. Trump made one that required migrants to remain in Mexico while their requests for asylum were processed.
    Biden put that policy in the shredder and invited millions of illegal migrants
    to walk right in.

    Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.

    I have good news and bad news. The current GOP congress is in fact worthless. The good news is you can vote in new congress members and don't vote in the idiots.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 31 01:31:02 2023
    On 07-30-23 08:38, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Enjoy the Trump <=-


    Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
    still run for presid
    nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against it?

    Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
    who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.

    Oh, yeah, I don't remember who or when, either.

    The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and lost
    in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound
    like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in 1918.
    He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate which third party he was the candiate of.

    Now that you mention it, that name and time sound familiar. Thanks for
    the research.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 31 09:22:49 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    Al is a moron who has proven he has absolutely no understanding of our Constitution (and probably not even his own), what obstruction of
    justice is (unless a Republican does it), or much anything else
    regarding our US legal system.

    That's a good description of all the Ignorant Elitists.

    Since he suggested it first, I suggest we all stop responding to him
    until he actually posts something that proves he has more than a
    handful of brain cells and/or has reconnected with reality.

    He'll just come back as someone else. Let me check my list... Who haven't we seen in a while?

    We've commented before on the interesting phenomenon where
    + We stop listening to one Ignorant Elitist
    + He stops posting
    + Then another Ignorant Elitst, that we haven't heard from for a while, starts posting.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 09:22:49 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once
    we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.

    Our education system has been working for decades to produce people who can't think for themselves and can only follow orders. When I was in high school (and I'll be going to my 40th class reunion next month), I noticed that.

    Imagine how hard it will be to get someone to think for themselves after being raised by parents and grandparents who can't think for themselves, then being indoctrinated in an education system who never teaches them how to think at all.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 07:55:13 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once
    we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.


    We live in troubling times... The Free Press was suppose to help us against a tyrannical government. The elites have bought up all the media companies to keep the majority sleeping or in line like good little sheep.

    I see the tides are turning, populists are forcing countries back in line and caring for their citizens needs first....

    I am hopeful... but still skeptical...

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jul 31 08:00:17 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    The newly installed razor wire barricades in the Rio Grande.


    Stop coming to the US and committing crimes... There is a legal way to come to the US... Try that way... less razor wire...

    BTW, you should see what I have in store for the people who come to my hose trying to commit crimes...


    It isn't. I thought we were talking about border security.

    U must be one of their Johns

    No, you are just spinning up dirt.


    89,000 kids are lost and are probably involved in sex trafficking... If the boarder was secure these 89,000 children would not be in that spot.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Mon Jul 31 07:47:00 2023
    The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and lost in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound
    like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in 1918. He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate which third party he was the candiate of.

    Now that you mention it, that name and time sound familiar. Thanks for
    the research.

    No problem. I got real curious about it. :) The site also said he had
    run multiple times before 1920, and that the run from the pen was his final bid. Some of his campaign pins supposedly had his prisoner number instead
    of his name. :D


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 31 09:16:00 2023
    Ron L. wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    We've commented before on the interesting phenomenon where
    + We stop listening to one Ignorant Elitist
    + He stops posting
    + Then another Ignorant Elitst, that we haven't heard from for a while, starts posting.

    Indeed. Al's been pretty consistently Al, though. The other rotating
    Elitists either come off as more intelligent, or more perverse and
    trollish, than Al. ;)


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 31 10:52:22 2023
    Stop coming to the US and committing crimes... There is a legal way to come to the US... Try that way... less razor wire...

    I am not coming to the US and if I do I will not be committing crimes.

    These are migrants, not criminals.

    BTW, you should see what I have in store for the people who come to my hose trying to commit crimes...

    Oh, do tell. Do you have a problem with people coming to your house and committing crimes?

    No, you are just spinning up dirt.

    89,000 kids are lost and are probably involved in sex trafficking...

    Human trafficking is indeed a nastly thing. It is not the same as "border security".

    If the boarder was secure these 89,000 children would not be in that spot.

    Border security is a want so lets go ahead and do that, but that doesn't solve in any way, shape or form human trafficking. Even when the border "works" the way we want it too, human trafficking is still going to be a issue that also needs work.

    They are two different things.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Mon Jul 31 22:00:07 2023
    Hello Dale,

    That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws
    against
    it?

    Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
    who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.

    Oh, yeah, I don't remember who or when, either.

    The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and
    lost
    in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound
    like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in
    1918.
    He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate
    which third party he was the candiate of.

    Now that you mention it, that name and time sound familiar. Thanks for the
    research.

    As usual, Mike Powell is not discussing politics in an honest manner.
    He knows full well that Eugene Debs had been a candidate for president
    while serving time - especially since I had mentioned it to him in
    this forum (more than once) long before he made his own comments.

    There is also another character who ran for president while behind
    bars. I used to see some of his followers, who were always very loud
    and had lots of free literature to give away, at the airport in New
    Orleans. Unfortunately he never won, even though he tried sevaral
    times. This guy was even more clownish than Donald Trump, and also
    at least twice as loud.

    I'm sure you would have liked him had you met him in person. He
    was truly one of a kind. Lyndon Larouche. The one and only.

    Have a great day.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 22:00:12 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering
    heat, AI> > AI> > a
    the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.

    How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?

    He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.

    The governor of Texas should welcome them with open arms, rather
    than tell his state National Guard to drown them in the Rio Grande.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 22:00:18 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    [..]

    We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time,
    but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.

    What are facts? There are no facts. So what does it matter what
    voters think, idiot or not? Besides, what are you gonna do about
    the crazies? As if idiots are the problem ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 22:00:24 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    What do historians have to say?

    We are all historians. What have we been saying?

    Whatever we want to say. About anything. And everything.

    Life, the Universe, and Everything.

    Not necessarily in that order.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jul 31 20:56:13 2023
    Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.

    I have good news and bad news. The current GOP congress is in fact worthless. The good news is you can vote in new congress members and
    don't vote in the idiots.

    That's not easy to do. Debates are fake, and they phone it in. All we can do is vote Republican because Republicans are 4% less likely to be corrupt than Democrats.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 31 21:17:49 2023
    We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount RL> AT> o
    time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. RL> AT> Onc
    we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able RL> AT> t
    save the country.

    Our education system has been working for decades to produce people who can't think for themselves and can only follow orders. When I was in
    high school (and I'll be going to my 40th class reunion next month), I noticed that.

    In school they tried to push the climate agenda on us by crying about global warming, and then when we got home from school, and turned on the tv, the media was doubling-down on the same bs stories that we heard about in school.

    They're incredibly organized.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 31 21:24:13 2023
    In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." RL> AT> He/sh
    can create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these orders "laws," but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL.

    Actually, it's not illegal.

    An Executive Order has impact **only** to direct the parts of the Executive Branch of the gov't to do things. Laws can **only** come from

    You're right, and I understand. But I was just trying to explain to Al that Biden can sign an executive order to repair the immigration problems, but that unfortunately Biden has other plans.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 31 21:27:46 2023
    I see the tides are turning, populists are forcing countries back in
    line and caring for their citizens needs first....

    I am hopeful... but still skeptical...

    That's the way! Be optimistic, be hopeful. Positive thinking is the only thing that we've got that the leftists don't have.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jul 31 21:39:44 2023
    He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.

    The governor of Texas should welcome them with open arms, rather
    than tell his state National Guard to drown them in the Rio Grande.

    Part of the problem is Salvadoran President Bukele; he's not allowing criminals to control his country anymore, so they're coming here to control ours instead.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 21:08:32 2023
    That's not easy to do. Debates are fake, and they phone it in.

    That needs to happen though. We need to communicate and meet somewhere in the middle.

    All we can do is vote Republican because Republicans are 4% less likely to be corrupt than Democrats.

    Today republicans a much more likely to be corrupt (or simply misinformed perhaps).

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 31 21:13:56 2023
    You're right, and I understand. But I was just trying to explain to Al that Biden can sign an executive order to repair the immigration problems, but that unfortunately Biden has other plans.

    Your border policy needs to change if that is desirable.

    The issues (whatever they are or are not) can't be fixed by executive order.

    American law makers need to update border policy (if desirable) and move forward with implementing those changes.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Aug 1 07:18:40 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    In school they tried to push the climate agenda on us by crying about global warming, and then when we got home from school, and turned on
    the tv, the media was doubling-down on the same bs stories that we
    heard about in school.

    They're incredibly organized.

    You got that. But it's because they have co-opted the largest megaphones.

    Everyone has natural BS detectors. But the Elitists get around them by funneling their propaganda through different communication channels. If you hear a few persons spout off BS, you tend to discount it. But if you hear the same BS from many sources (all seemingly different), you tend to accept it as true.

    Another good thing that has come out of this mess is that many people now can see that "all" of these media outlets are actually the same - allowing our BS detectors to function correctly. So it's no longer "NBC, ABC, CNN all say it's true, so it must be true." Now it's "The media says it's true, so I'll discount it until I can verify it."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Aug 1 09:37:32 2023
    On 31 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    I am not coming to the US and if I do I will not be committing crimes.

    These are migrants, not criminals.


    They are breaking US law by entering the way that they are. If you chose to disregard US law... Drinking and Driving... Robbing Banks... Entering the country ILLEGALLY... U R a criminal.

    Any administration should be protecting its citizens from an invasion such as the one we are seeing.... But this administration is keen on replacing the electorate with voters who will vote for them rather than convince the citizens that their ideas are better...

    BTW, asylum seekers are to seek asylum in the first country they hit.... Not the US which can be 4-5 countries later. That would be international law...


    Oh, do tell. Do you have a problem with people coming to your house and committing crimes?


    Nope... Like Joey Jones on Fox News... He says he doesn't lock his Georgia home's door... People don't break in because they know it might be the last home they break into... I recall a story ... car jacker on the run... trying to access homes in the area he was in, running from the police... Tried to open the wrong door ... home owner shot him... criminal got away, survived... Police were looking for the home owner... assured them that they weren't in trouble but that they were just trying to complete their investigation...

    I guess ... Try that in a small town...


    Human trafficking is indeed a nastly thing. It is not the same as "border security".


    It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites would have to find a different way to get kids to molest.

    Secure the boarder. Work on illegal drugs entering into the country. Work on stopping human trafficking... Stop illegals from coming in... not all are just looking for a better life... some are on the Terrorist Watch list... and if you can walk and chew gum at the same time ... Try to Make America Great Again.


    Border security is a want so lets go ahead and do that, but that doesn't solve in any way, shape or form human trafficking. Even when the border "works" the way we want it too, human trafficking is still going to be a issue that also needs work.

    They are two different things.


    If it's still going to be an issue let it be someone else's issue and not an American issue... UN can setup a task force...

    Sick bitches bitches... What we learned from the Sound of Freedom is that the US is one of the largest consumers of this child trafficking... When Trump gets in in 2024 he should make Epstein's client list public and send out snipper teams to shoot these bitches... They should hunt these predators down and shoot them.

    It's not 2 different things... cartels are exploiting the unsecured boarder and making money anyway they can.

    The left and Democrats only care about abortion... Why would anyone expect them to care about the safety of children.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Aug 1 09:38:53 2023
    On 31 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    That's the way! Be optimistic, be hopeful. Positive thinking is the only thing that we've got that the leftists don't have.

    Yup... I want to be the little engine who could...
    :)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Aug 1 14:48:08 2023
    These are migrants, not criminals.

    They are breaking US law by entering the way that they are. If you chose to disregard US law... Drinking and Driving... Robbing Banks... Entering the country ILLEGALLY... U R a criminal.

    Are they entering illegally?

    And even if they are, deal with that, lawfully.

    Any administration should be protecting its citizens from an invasion such as the one we are seeing....

    What invasion?

    But this administration is keen on replacing the electorate with voters who will vote for them rather than convince the citizen that their ideas are better...

    Oh, yes. The great replacement theory!

    Oh, do tell. Do you have a problem with people coming to your house and
    committing crimes?

    I guess ... Try that in a small town...

    You sure seem to enjoy the propaganda.

    Human trafficking is indeed a nastly thing. It is not the same as "border
    security".

    It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites would have to find a different way to get kids to molest.

    Stop the spin!

    Secure the boarder. Work on illegal drugs entering into the country. Work on stopping human trafficking... Stop illegals from coming in... not all are just looking for a better life... some are on the Terrorist Watch list... and if you can walk and chew gum at the same time ... Try to Make America Great Again.

    America is indeed a great country. That greatness did not come from Donald Trump or the MAGA movement. Donald Trump (and MAGA) only stain America's reputation.

    Border security is a want so lets go ahead and do that, but that doesn't
    solve in any way, shape or form human trafficking. Even when the border
    "works" the way we want it too, human trafficking is still going to be a
    issue that also needs work.

    They are two different things.

    If it's still going to be an issue let it be someone else's issue and not an American issue... UN can setup a task force...

    If human trafficing is happening in American then it is an issue that Americans will have to deal with.

    Human trafficing is not a border issue. It happens in the heart of America and many other places.

    Sick bitches bitches... What we learned from the Sound of Freedom is that the US is one of the largest consumers of this child trafficking... When Trump gets in in 2024 he should make Epstein's client list public and send out snipper teams to shoot these bitches... They should hunt these predators down and shoot them.

    What really is this "Sound of Freedom" that you learned so much from?

    It's not 2 different things... cartels are exploiting the unsecured boarder and making money anyway they can.

    The cartels are doing that, not the Biden administration.

    The left and Democrats only care about abortion... Why would anyone expect the to care about the safety of children.

    What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of children.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Aug 1 19:19:21 2023
    On 01 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Are they entering illegally?

    And even if they are, deal with that, lawfully.


    They are entering illegally... And Trump said when he gets in he'll start deporting them... The legal response... He was going to start with the bad actors first.


    What invasion?


    Yes... South part of Chicago had a town hall the other day.. the residents of the area, mainly minorities, were complaining that they don't even have enough money to feed their children and the local government is giving free cell phones and paying the food and lodging for illegals.

    A government's primary concern should be for the citizens, the constituents of their area.... The is a KEY feature of representative government...


    It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites woul have to find a different way to get kids to molest.

    Stop the spin!


    You should care about these children who are being exploited...


    What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of children.


    Don't refer to it as spin...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Aug 1 20:36:06 2023
    Are they entering illegally?

    And even if they are, deal with that, lawfully.

    They are entering illegally... And Trump said when he gets in he'll start deporting them... The legal response... He was going to start with the bad actors first.

    OK, deport them if they enter illegally.

    In any case remove the inhumane death traps the Texas GOP has constructed in the Rio Grande and stop pushing kids back into the water.

    What invasion?

    Yes... South part of Chicago had a town hall the other day.. the residents of the area, mainly minorities, were complaining that they don't even have enough money to feed their children and the local government is giving free cell phones and paying the food and lodging for illegals.

    My question was, what invasion?

    A government's primary concern should be for the citizens, the constituents of their area.... The is a KEY feature of representative government...

    Of course it is Joe. If the city of Chicago needs help perhaps they could ask the state for help. If the state needs help perhaps they could ask the federal government for help.

    But anyway, what invasion?

    It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have
    entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites woul >> > have to find a different way to get kids to molest.

    Stop the spin!

    You should care about these children who are being exploited...

    You are not caring about any children. You are constructing some strange narrative.

    What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of
    children.

    Don't refer to it as spin...

    I am refering to your spin.

    "the Elites would have to to find a different way to get kids to molest" is nothing more than spin.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 06:44:02 2023

    In any case remove the inhumane death traps the Texas GOP has
    constructed in the Rio Grande and stop pushing kids back into the water.


    Simple... stop sneaking in... Use the front door and avoid the walls and other hazards.


    "the Elites would have to to find a different way to get kids to molest" is nothing more than spin.


    At least they wouldn't be doing it in the US.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Wed Aug 2 08:19:26 2023
    Another good thing that has come out of this mess is that many people
    now can see that "all" of these media outlets are actually the same - allowing our BS detectors to function correctly. So it's no longer
    "NBC, ABC, CNN all say it's true, so it must be true." Now it's "The media says it's true, so I'll discount it until I can verify it."

    That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get people to think responsibly..

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 08:37:17 2023
    The left and Democrats only care about abortion... Why would anyone AI> > AI> > expe
    the to care about the safety of children.

    What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of children.

    You can't think or feel for the whole world.

    IB Joe is right. The Democrats fight for the right to murder babies, and they pass it off on cold-blooded scumbags as "women's rights."

    For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as many men as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum out all the adorable infant biproducts later.

    And for chauvinist players, it's convenient for them because they know that if they accidentally get a woman pregnant, good ol Democrats already have the coat hanger unraveled, and child-support doesn't have to ruin their erection.

    Sex sells, and I guess that lowlife people get turned on by the darkness of abortion/child-killing. Just wait until some Republican tries to make it illegal to choke yourself inside a closet; the Democrats will prevail bigtime, because the scumbags will vote accordingly.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Aug 2 07:44:00 2023
    I am not coming to the US and if I do I will not be committing crimes.

    These are migrants, not criminals.


    They are breaking US law by entering the way that they are. If you chose to d
    regard US law... Drinking and Driving... Robbing Banks... Entering the country
    LLEGALLY... U R a criminal.

    In Al's world, he could witness a crime but there would be no evidence of
    any crime so long as the criminal is not a Republican. If it is a
    Republican, Al does not even have to witness it. Being Republican is
    evidence enough of whatever the accusation is.

    Any administration should be protecting its citizens from an invasion such as e one we are seeing.... But this administration is keen on replacing the elect
    ate with voters who will vote for them rather than convince the citizens that eir ideas are better...

    I tried once asking him how he'd feel if we were allowing them in and
    herding them to the Canada border. He didn't seem to like that idea as
    much. It is ok just so long as it is only our problem, and that it is the Republicans who don't like it.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Aug 2 07:21:28 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get
    people to think responsibly..


    I think the fact that we can receive information outside the mainstream media is good... This is why they are mad as hell because Twitter went full free speech... you can now listen to all kinds of Blogs and whatnot. The younger generation is Hip to all this, it's just hard(er) to get the older people on board,,,

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 2 07:50:38 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    In Al's world, he could witness a crime but there would be no evidence of any crime so long as the criminal is not a Republican. If it is a Republican, Al does not even have to witness it. Being Republican is evidence enough of whatever the accusation is.


    I hear ya... We are in Troubled times... I hope we can make it through...

    Trump is being charged because he believed the 2020 elrection was stolen... essentially...

    For those who don't like the Gateway Pundit... YouTube has 12 minutes of the Democrats refusing to accept election results...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA

    For those that don't mind TGP... Here's 24 minutes

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/watch-24-straight-minutes-democrats-de nying-election-results/

    Stacey Abrams still thinks she's the Governor of Georgia.


    I tried once asking him how he'd feel if we were allowing them in and herding them to the Canada border. He didn't seem to like that idea as much. It is ok just so long as it is only our problem, and that it is
    the Republicans who don't like it.


    There is a smaller version of illegals coming to Canada... They flood the migrants into larger city centers. In the past, I mean my parents and grandparents time, if I migrants took the opportunity of being in Canada and they made their lives, and other citizens in the country better.

    Now they get welfare for life...

    There will be a breaking point at some point.... I think it's the left's goal to bankrupt the western countries...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Aug 2 09:55:18 2023
    What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of
    children.

    You can't think or feel for the whole world.

    IB Joe is right.

    Bzzt. Wrong.

    The Democrats fight for the right to murder babies, and they pass it off on cold-blooded scumbags as "women's rights."

    It is a womans right to choose what happens with her body.

    Well, it used to be.

    For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as many men as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum out all the adorable infant biproducts later.

    That's is also a woman's right to choose although, that is a different issue.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 2 09:56:54 2023
    In Al's world, he could witness a crime but there would be no evidence of
    any crime so long as the criminal is not a Republican. If it is a Republican, Al does not even have to witness it. Being Republican is evidence enough of whatever the accusation is.

    You are gossiping again.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 10:23:04 2023
    IB Joe is right.

    Bzzt. Wrong.

    Buzz Buzz I was

    Yes, you were wrong.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 11:15:13 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    IB Joe is right.

    Bzzt. Wrong.

    Buzz Buzz I was

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 11:33:13 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    IB Joe is right.

    Bzzt. Wrong.

    Buzz Buzz I was

    Yes, you were wrong.


    Nope... we even had a consensus that I was right...

    Ur a Flat Earther

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 11:26:04 2023
    Buzz Buzz I was

    Yes, you were wrong.

    Nope... we even had a consensus that I was right...

    OK, Joe. Have it your way.. ;)

    Ur a Flat Earther

    Anything else you'd like to spin up?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 3 07:42:17 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get
    people to think responsibly..

    It will take a while to fix generations of mis-education, unfortunately.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Aug 3 08:06:00 2023
    Stacey Abrams still thinks she's the Governor of Georgia.

    When a Democrat claims it, it really happened! <sarcasm>

    There is a smaller version of illegals coming to Canada... They flood the migr
    ts into larger city centers. In the past, I mean my parents and grandparents me, if I migrants took the opportunity of being in Canada and they made their ves, and other citizens in the country better.

    Now they get welfare for life...

    Are they illegal though? I got the impression that, at times anyway,
    Canada has been migrating them in on purpose. I got that impression after reading a recent article about how for years Canada had been encouraging
    muslim immigration only to later realize that muslims, being usually conservative, don't like a lot of the stuff that the Canadian education
    system has been trying to push on their children. Things like drag queen
    story time and other things of a sexual nature that are not meant for young children.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Aug 3 08:15:00 2023
    In any case remove the inhumane death traps the Texas GOP has constructed in the Rio Grande and stop pushing kids back into the water.

    Simple... stop sneaking in... Use the front door and avoid the walls and othe
    hazards.

    +1


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Aug 3 08:18:00 2023
    For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as many n as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum o
    all the adorable infant biproducts later.

    That is a very chauvinist way to look at it.

    And for chauvinist players, it's convenient for them because they know that if
    hey accidentally get a woman pregnant, good ol Democrats already have the coat
    anger unraveled, and child-support doesn't have to ruin their erection.

    Guys who don't care are not going to be around even if she has the child so
    I doubt that is what they are thinking about.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 3 11:00:37 2023
    That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get people to think responsibly..


    I think the fact that we can receive information outside the mainstream media is good... This is why they are mad as hell because Twitter went full free speech... you can now listen to all kinds of Blogs and
    whatnot. The younger generation is Hip to all this, it's just hard(er)
    to get the older people on board,,,

    I can't even get my dad to give Fox News a try. The more main mainstream media has already become a fixture.

    Local lies at 6PM, national lies at 6:30, and Wheel of Fortune at 7:00.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 11:20:13 2023
    For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as men as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum out all the adorable infant biproducts later.

    That's is also a woman's right to choose although, that is a different issue.

    This reminds me of a few years back when I used to take my kids to one of the city's public pools. There was a mom with a small child, and that small child of hers needed rescuing by the lifeguards at least 3 times during the 2 hours that we hung around at the pool.

    It's the mom's right to choose whether or not the child has had enough swimming for the day. But her idiotic decision has an effect on everyone at the pool.

    You see, some people are both selfish and moronic at the same time. And we're dumb if we cater to them.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 3 10:30:53 2023
    On 03 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Are they illegal though? I got the impression that, at times anyway, Canada has been migrating them in on purpose. I got that impression
    after reading a recent article about how for years Canada had been encouraging muslim immigration only to later realize that muslims, being usually conservative, don't like a lot of the stuff that the Canadian education system has been trying to push on their children. Things like drag queen story time and other things of a sexual nature that are not meant for young children.


    Each country has different immigration laws... Canada has been lucky on the immigration front, for the most part, because the US was to the south. Things have changed a little over the past few years... Trump said he was going to deport illegals... and that pushed a lot of illegals to enter Canada through the US.... more recently US has been busing illegals to Canada to offset the influx they are currently experiencing...

    In Canada we don't have the family based system that the US has... A second or third cousin of your ex-wife's sister can be sponsored into the country... as long as their is a familial relationship they are in... Even if the person being sponsored in will not ad value to the country. As an aside I know a person who moved to the US... became wealthy and sponsored his entire family into the US... I think the application included over 50 people... brothers, sisters... their respective spouses and all their children...

    My 13 year old daughter would be capable to sponsor a whole island full of people.... It is unthinkable the amount of people she can get into the US...

    In Canada she is limited to her parents... In Canada the government choses the countries they want to work with.... based on their rules and not necessarily what the citizens might want or need.... For example I could not sponsor my daughters Aunt, uncle or cousin into Canada because the Dominican Republic is not on the favored list...

    Back to your statement about Muslims... Canada is learning a hard lesson with respect to that... The Muslim community have been protesting the Transgender issue... and it's been driving the liberals absolutely nuts...
    `

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 3 10:36:16 2023
    On 03 Aug 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I can't even get my dad to give Fox News a try. The more main mainstream media has already become a fixture.

    Local lies at 6PM, national lies at 6:30, and Wheel of Fortune at 7:00.


    At least 7PM he's getting the truth...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 3 23:38:45 2023
    For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as n as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to va o
    all the adorable infant biproducts later.

    That is a very chauvinist way to look at it.

    And for chauvinist players, it's convenient for them because they know t if
    hey accidentally get a woman pregnant, good ol Democrats already have th coat
    anger unraveled, and child-support doesn't have to ruin their erection.

    Guys who don't care are not going to be around even if she has the child so I doubt that is what they are thinking about.

    I realize that my analogies seem stupid, but Democrats are smart, and somehow they've figured out that "abortion rights" are important to a large portion of voters.

    The part that I haven't figured out yet is why do voters care so much about protecting abortion? Men especially should be annoyed when people talk about "a woman's right to choose," because that means that women should have the right
    to terminate a child against the wishes of the child's father.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Aug 4 07:26:00 2023
    I realize that my analogies seem stupid, but Democrats are smart, and somehow ey've figured out that "abortion rights" are important to a large portion of v
    ers.

    I think polling numbers would tell them that.

    The part that I haven't figured out yet is why do voters care so much about pr
    ecting abortion?

    I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to
    impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.

    Men especially should be annoyed when people talk about "a woma
    n's right to choose," because that means that women should have the right
    to terminate a child against the wishes of the child's father.

    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 20:14:50 2023
    The part that I haven't figured out yet is why do voters care so much ab pr
    ecting abortion?

    I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.

    Decent people would probably agree with that. I just hope that they will also agree that there are bigger problems at hand than abortion rights. I have anxiety about people casting ballots for all the wrong reasons.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 5 09:02:17 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.

    I believe that most people are in the camp of "it's a personal choice". But it also means that most people believe that our tax dollars should **not** fund it.

    I think the whole "women's rights" and "right to choose", etc. is a smoke screen. The real question is whether or not our tax dollars should fund it. The Elitists want another way to funnel our tax dollars into their crony's companies (i.e. Planned Parenthood).

    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
    father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 5 07:42:30 2023
    On 05 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I think the whole "women's rights" and "right to choose", etc. is a smoke screen. The real question is whether or not our tax dollars should fund it. The Elitists want another way to funnel our tax dollars into their crony's companies (i.e. Planned Parenthood).


    At what point does life begin?? At what point does that life have constitutional rights?


    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.


    A father should have the ability to reject responsibility for that Child... A woman can abort the baby without the father's consent... maybe men should have the ability to reject responsibility??

    Just saying....

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 5 23:24:49 2023
    Hello Ron,

    [..]

    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
    father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.

    Father's rights? To refuse to pay child support for children
    they have bred with god only knows how many women (single and
    married alike)?

    Only the woman knows who the father of her child is. Or rather,
    might be. The father can never know. Not for sure, anyway. That
    is a fact, not fiction.

    You might know who your own mother is. But there is no way in
    hell that you know who your father is. Even if your mother told
    you. People lie. Men and women alike. And no woman wants to be
    caught cheating. After all, somebody else is paying the bills.

    When a woman points her finger at you and claims you are the
    father of her kid, she is saying she wants you to pay for years
    of care, regardless of the cost, of what you did.

    And she means the business.

    So what we are really talking about is women's rights.

    Men don't have any.

    That is why judges are a woman's best friend.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 5 23:25:01 2023
    Hello Joe,

    At what point does life begin??

    It depends.

    For those who are Jewish, a baby is one year old from
    the moment it is born.

    For others, one can never be born, but only reborn.
    Time, and time again.

    So when does life begin?
    Is it a straight line?
    Or a never-ending circle?

    At what point does that life have constitutional rights?

    Animals have no constitutional rights.
    Fish have no constitutional rights.
    Birds have no constitutional rights.
    Plants have no constitutional rights.
    Rocks have no constitutional rights.

    Why should anyone, or anything, have constitutional rights?

    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
    father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.

    A father should have the ability to reject responsibility for that Child...
    A woman can abort the baby without the father's consent... maybe men should
    have the ability to reject responsibility??

    Just saying....

    Improve the gene pool.
    Go get a vasectomy.
    Nobody will stop you.
    All the doctor wants is his fee.
    Snip! Snip!

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 5 20:28:42 2023
    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.

    I lived it. I have a 15 year old in Pennsylvania. The mom hasn't let me see him for more than a year now. The court judges ignore my complaints about it. They're up to something sinister. Somehow, I'm sure, there is a benefit to leftism at the bottom of it.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 6 08:18:08 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    At what point does life begin?? At what point does that life have constitutional rights?

    And under what conditions can the rights of that new life trump the rights of the mother?

    All questions that we have been pondering for a long, long time now. The main problem is that both of the vocal sides have long moved to opposite points of irrationality.

    I think we can answer those questions, as a society, but only if we exclude the extremists.

    A father should have the ability to reject responsibility for that Child... A woman can abort the baby without the father's consent...
    maybe men should have the ability to reject responsibility??

    Just saying....

    But the Elitists are all about "Rules for thee, but not for me."

    It used to be that the mother had all the responsibilities - so no one minded that she had all the rights too. But as our society changed, and we could force the father to take responsitility, the laws didn't change to provide him with rights to go those responsibilities.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 6 08:18:08 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I lived it. I have a 15 year old in Pennsylvania. The mom hasn't let me see him for more than a year now. The court judges ignore my complaints about it. They're up to something sinister. Somehow, I'm sure, there is
    a benefit to leftism at the bottom of it.

    The Elitists don't want boys to grow up with fathers to teach them how to be good men. (Also why they needed to destroy the Boy Scouts.)

    They want boys to turn out like Lee or Alan. :)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 6 07:40:38 2023
    On 06 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    At what point does life begin?? At what point does that life have constitutional rights?

    And under what conditions can the rights of that new life trump the
    rights of the mother?


    I use to be pro choice... Back in the day someone I knew asked me to drive her to the clinic to get an abortion... and I did... I had nothing to do with the baby she was carrying... Anyway, later in life I have come to regret my involvement... I had no-part in any of the process of her choice... I could have said no, I won't drive you... but I didn't.

    Where the left has taken abortion.... The last Governor of Virginia was being interviewed for the race he lost... and he was talking about how to abort an already born baby... postnatal abortion... Rights of the mother?? Gavin Newsom was having similar conversation as the ex Governor of Virginia was having... Postnatal abortions... The baby is outside of the mother at that time...

    The left argue for unfeathered access to abortion... A mother who is crowning because the baby is coming out.... She can say F@#K IT.... I changed my mind... snap its neck I don't want it any more. Partial birth abortions were all to common place... They have to dismember the baby while still in the womb so that woman's vagina. Fully grown babies are being butchered at times just days before natural childbirth would occur.

    At what point does the child rights supersedes the mother's rights... I don't don't know the exact point... but there must be a point at some point... I am not a hard line pro lifer... Is there a time during the pregnancy where you could end it... sure... There is a time during the pregnancy resembles a clump of tissue as appose to a fully developed human being...

    I was watching a video where a girl was talking about her friend at college. Apparently her friend was doing some Alphabet challenge.... So the object of the game is to get a guy and have coitus with him based on the letter of his first name... (A)lbert, (B)ret, (C)hristopher... and so on... then she said her girlfriend got pregnant by the letter P... She never did say what she did with the baby... This female sounds pretty irresponsible... if she had an abortion it probably wasn't done in the first trimester but rather it was postnatal or partial birth.

    There are consequences to your behaviors... real life consequences... and if you chose to go ahead and do them... there maybe a point where you have to live with them. I say ladies... just stop having sex with people who could potentially get you pregnant...


    All questions that we have been pondering for a long, long time now.
    The main problem is that both of the vocal sides have long moved to opposite points of irrationality.

    I think we can answer those questions, as a society, but only if we exclude the extremists.


    Sitting on the fence looking down on the situation talking about things in a philosophic namer.... Ohhh... we just need to eliminate the rights of others to voice their opinions... Yup...screw their first amendment rights... because I think they are too extreme... and I define extreme as I don't like their thoughts on the topic.... and I'll add the opposing argument in here so as to through people off of my cowardice ability to say what I really feel.

    This is not a philosophical debate... There has to be some point where a babies life and rights to it begins... I'll give you the first trimester... you can snuff its life out then... But at some point you might want to own up to it...


    But the Elitists are all about "Rules for thee, but not for me."

    It used to be that the mother had all the responsibilities - so no one minded that she had all the rights too. But as our society changed, and we could force the father to take responsitility, the laws didn't change to provide him with rights to go those responsibilities.


    I saw a video where a woman was talking about how society removed all the responsibility from women... it went something like this... If a woman wants to be promiscuous... She has birth control... if that doesn't work she has abortion.... if she choses not to do that... she can adopt out... if she choses to keep the baby she can hound the baby-daddy until the baby leaves her house at some point... The government will assist her in this endeavor...

    I saw a video where a woman was explaining why it's better to have 6 baby-daddies rather than having 1 baby-daddy for 6 children.... and she argued that her income is based off 6 different men's income and as a result it is more lucrative for her..

    I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that society will get a grip on her...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Aug 6 08:40:00 2023
    I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.

    Decent people would probably agree with that. I just hope that they will also ree that there are bigger problems at hand than abortion rights. I have anxiet
    about people casting ballots for all the wrong reasons.

    A family member brought up this topic during a discussion yesterday. His point, which I agree with, is that the Republicans have gone too far to
    prove that they are far-right when it comes to this topic. They have
    defined it as a central part of their platform.

    Gone are the days when candidates were only asked their abortion stance.
    The Republicans have gone from being just pro-life to a much more
    aggressive stance, one where they have defined it as a "big problem" that
    has a high priority of needing a fix.

    Doing so has caused a lot of anxiety for persons who do not share their "it
    is a big problem that needs immediate fixing" views of the matter. Because
    the Republicans have made it one of their "biggest problems," these
    other folks are very likely to be thinking a lot about it when they go to
    the voting booth.

    If the Republicans had stuck with the "it's bad, but we have bigger problems
    to worry about right now" stance of the Reagan/Bush years, only your far-left fear mongers would be making a big deal about it on election day.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sun Aug 6 08:46:00 2023
    I believe that most people are in the camp of "it's a personal choice". But it
    also means that most people believe that our tax dollars should **not** fund >it.

    This is true, too. I am of that belief.

    I think the whole "women's rights" and "right to choose", etc. is a smoke screen. The real question is whether or not our tax dollars should fund it. The Elitists want another way to funnel our tax dollars into their crony's companies (i.e. Planned Parenthood).

    Yes. The argument is that the public tax money that goes to such places
    goes for their other services... and they do have other services. I think
    most people would like to see proof one way or the other. I have never
    really been convinced that either side is providing 100% facts on whether
    or not tax dollars are being used for their abortion services.

    They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.

    Father's rights have been attacked for decades.

    Indeed they have, in one way or another. It does not help that some
    fathers really are dead beats, but the system has not been less than fair to the ones that are responsible parents.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 10:40:03 2023
    If the Republicans had stuck with the "it's bad, but we have bigger problems to worry about right now" stance of the Reagan/Bush years, only your far-left fear mongers would be making a big deal about it on
    election day.

    Yes, I agree with this. They need to shut up about abortion. Dan Bongino isn't helping with all his anti-abortion stuff on the radio. He isn't helping babies, and in the long run he's actually hurting them more.

    It's the same thing with the transgender stuff. Not a single Republican should fall for it, but they take the bait, and then they're on TV giving off negative vibes to trans people. Not a good idea!

    I want my country fixed and I want safety restored. Ask me if I care about abortion or guys playing on girls' teams at this point. I wish I could cc Trump about this, because I have a feeling that he hasn't figured this out yet.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ib Joe on Sun Aug 6 16:36:52 2023
    The left argue for unfeathered access to abortion... A mother who is crownin >because the baby is coming out.... She can say F@#K IT.... I changed my mind..

    When did that ever happen in America?

    Partial birth abortions were all to common place...

    It was? When?

    They have to dismember the baby while still in the womb so tha
    woman's vagina. Fully grown babies are being butchered at times just days before natural childbirth would occur.

    Where are babies being dismembered and butchered just days before birth?

    Your story is a lie. An Obvious lie.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 7 07:47:36 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think we can answer those questions, as a society, but only if we exclude the extremists.

    Sitting on the fence looking down on the situation talking about things
    in a philosophic namer.... Ohhh... we just need to eliminate the
    rights of others to voice their opinions... Yup...screw their first amendment rights... because I think they are too extreme...

    When I say "extremists", I'm talking in a general sense of people who can never find common ground with others.

    ex: I think that the vast majority of people will agree that once the baby is outside and living without assistance, it's "alive" and has all rights. But the extremists I'm talking about will not agree to that.

    Another example: the people who believe that abortion is 100% wrong are also extremists. What happens if the mother's life is in danger because of the pregnancy?

    That's why I say that, as a society, we can determine the question about abortion. It won't satisfy the extremists, but they are free to live their own lives in their own way - or leave our society.

    I saw a video where a woman was explaining why it's better to have 6 baby-daddies rather than having 1 baby-daddy for 6 children.... and she argued that her income is based off 6 different men's income and as a result it is more lucrative for her..

    And what's really scary is that was the intended outcome by the people who orchestrated it.

    I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that
    society will get a grip on her...

    You are not the only parent who feels that way today.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 7 07:47:36 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    A family member brought up this topic during a discussion yesterday.
    His point, which I agree with, is that the Republicans have gone too
    far to prove that they are far-right when it comes to this topic. They have defined it as a central part of their platform.

    Much of that has to do with the idea of negotiation.

    Using eBay as an example, if someone has an item listed for $2000 with a make offer, but I think it's worth only $1500, I won't make $1500 my first offer. I'll offer $1000 and we negotiate toward the $1500 that I think it's worth.

    In politics, too many Conservatives think along those lines when working with the Elitists. So if the Elitists start far Left, the Conservatives start far Right to negotiate their way into the middle.

    The problem is that the Elitists won't negotiate and the other side comes off looking like they are "far right".

    Gone are the days when candidates were only asked their abortion
    stance. The Republicans have gone from being just pro-life to a much
    more aggressive stance, one where they have defined it as a "big
    problem" that has a high priority of needing a fix.

    IHMO: The Abortion issue is just a distratction to keep people away from asking the Elitists stands on the economy and such (that they fail miserably at).

    If the Republicans had stuck with the "it's bad, but we have bigger problems to worry about right now" stance of the Reagan/Bush years,
    only your far-left fear mongers would be making a big deal about it on election day.

    Completely agree. Candidates should just say "it's a personal issue" and refuse to say any more on it.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Aug 7 09:30:04 2023
    On 07 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    When I say "extremists", I'm talking in a general sense of people who
    can never find common ground with others.


    Prior to Roe V Wade being overturned there was no way to argue for the baby's rights... It went from, back in the 70's, a procedure that will be rarely used but it'll be safe for the mother... within the 1st trimester... To abortion on demand up to and including the day/moment of delivery.

    Thank GOD for the 10th amendment and with Roe being turned over it sent the matter back to the states so that each individual stated can decide how their constituents will deal with it.

    I have no problem with factions arguing things out... If it weren't for the pro-life community not backing down, playing the long-game, these babies might not have a chance...

    BTW, I heard Texas was celebrating that 10,000 babies were born since and because of Roe being overturned...


    ex: I think that the vast majority of people will agree that once the
    baby is outside and living without assistance, it's "alive" and has all rights. But the extremists I'm talking about will not agree to that.


    It's funny... There is a stat out there that show over 70+ % of Americans support a woman's right to choose... The left love to talk about that number... It's not until you look into that a little deeper that you understand it better...

    If you ask the question about unfeathered access and any time during the pregnancy the number is A LOT LOWER... Most American's view and support abortion access during the 1st trimester when the baby most resembles a clump of cells.

    The only way to shut the left up on the abortion issue is to take the tax payer's money away... Problem solved!!!


    Another example: the people who believe that abortion is 100% wrong are also extremists. What happens if the mother's life is in danger because of the pregnancy?


    And they have a 1st amendment right to speak their view and petition the government about their concerns... The country and constitution was made for robust debate... I'm not afraid of it, I encourage it... I just don't like it when one side tries to cancel the other because they don't want open dialog.


    That's why I say that, as a society, we can determine the question about abortion. It won't satisfy the extremists, but they are free to live their own lives in their own way - or leave our society.


    It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...


    I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that society will get a grip on her...

    You are not the only parent who feels that way today.


    All I have to do is shoot one of them, gentleman callers, in the leg... and the word will get out... HAHAHA... My oldest daughter is turning 39 this September... Never a fear... Youngest daughter... 13... has never gave me a reason to be fearful... But because of how sick our society is... I worry constantly.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Aug 7 10:07:00 2023
    It's the same thing with the transgender stuff. Not a single Republican should >all for it, but they take the bait, and then they're on TV giving off negative >ibes to trans people. Not a good idea!

    There are some people who claim to be "empaths" who really absorb what they preceive as the pain of others. I am aware of at least one who seems to be making her (now his) way through the alphabet. Any time it seems like one
    of those groups is in the crosshairs, they move towards that one. This
    latest move will be difficult to undo.

    On the other hand, some of that bait was pretty serious. We really don't
    need illustrated sex fiction in elementary and jr high libraries, but it
    was.

    I want my country fixed and I want safety restored. Ask me if I care about abor
    ion or guys playing on girls' teams at this point. I wish I could cc Trump abou
    this, because I have a feeling that he hasn't figured this out yet.

    I don't have kids but being an uncle to several young ladies, that one
    triggers me some, too. I don't think it is fair for a washed-up or
    never-been male competitor to decide they are a female (after enjoying the benefits of male puberty) and stealing opportunites from biological women.

    For some of them, that athletic scholarship could be their ticket to an education and a future that they are being robbed of by a guy.

    But I do think they need to downplay it during their campaigns. Some Republicans are using those trigger topics to play to their base, but they
    need instead to find things that affect us all (like the cost of food and
    other basic necessities) and focus on that.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Aug 7 10:30:00 2023
    Gone are the days when candidates were only asked their abortion
    stance. The Republicans have gone from being just pro-life to a much more aggressive stance, one where they have defined it as a "big problem" that has a high priority of needing a fix.

    IHMO: The Abortion issue is just a distratction to keep people away from asking
    the Elitists stands on the economy and such (that they fail miserably at).

    It certainly is. As Aaron pointed out, so are several other "issues."

    Completely agree. Candidates should just say "it's a personal issue" and refuse to say any more on it.

    Spot on.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Aug 7 10:55:00 2023
    Where the left has taken abortion.... The last Governor of Virginia was being terviewed for the race he lost... and he was talking about how to abort an alr
    dy born baby... postnatal abortion... Rights of the mother?? Gavin Newsom was ving similar conversation as the ex Governor of Virginia was having... Postnat
    abortions... The baby is outside of the mother at that time...

    Yes, they both take that too far, but I do wonder if it is not bait to
    catch Republicans and get them reacting to it.

    At what point does the child rights supersedes the mother's rights... I don't n't know the exact point... but there must be a point at some point... I am no
    a hard line pro lifer... Is there a time during the pregnancy where you could d it... sure... There is a time during the pregnancy resembles a clump of tis
    e as appose to a fully developed human being...

    I would say when they'd not be viable outside the womb. And, by viable, I would say that means they can live and breathe on their own without life support, be fed orally, and do other things that many premies who live
    normal lives can do.

    If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be alive,
    then no they are not viable.

    I was watching a video where a girl was talking about her friend at college. parently her friend was doing some Alphabet challenge.... So the object of the
    ame is to get a guy and have coitus with him based on the letter of his first me... (A)lbert, (B)ret, (C)hristopher... and so on... then she said her girlfr
    nd got pregnant by the letter P... She never did say what she did with the ba
    ... This female sounds pretty irresponsible... if she had an abortion it proba
    y wasn't done in the first trimester but rather it was postnatal or partial bi
    h.

    I sort of doubt that. She want to get back to having fun without showing
    off a baby bump.

    I saw a video where a woman was explaining why it's better to have 6 baby-dadd
    s rather than having 1 baby-daddy for 6 children.... and she argued that her i
    ome is based off 6 different men's income and as a result it is more lucrative
    or her..

    I have seen that video also. I have worked previously in child support. I cannot say anyone did it on purpose. While there are a lot of women out
    there who are trying to keep hold of one man, there are many others who
    have multiple kids with as many/nearly as many dads. I think that is sad.

    I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that society will
    et a grip on her...

    I would be too.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 7 11:23:56 2023
    On 07 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Yes, they both take that too far, but I do wonder if it is not bait to catch Republicans and get them reacting to it.


    Republicans are always showing up to a gun fight with a knife... That's why the Democrats hate Donald, The Counter Puncher, Trump.


    I would say when they'd not be viable outside the womb. And, by viable,
    I would say that means they can live and breathe on their own without
    life support, be fed orally, and do other things that many premies who live normal lives can do.

    If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be alive, then no they are not viable.


    I'll refer you to back to the ex-Govrenor of Virginia taped discussion on how to handle postnatal abortions.... Gavin was also talking about this prior to Roe being overturned.



    I sort of doubt that. She want to get back to having fun without showing off a baby bump.


    Partial birth abortion was real and pervasive throughout the country... Since Roe was overturned states can now put a limit on them... Some are a little out there... most are reasonable... ie the first trimester... Where as some states still have abortion on demand with no limitations or restrictions.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 7 18:06:16 2023
    On the other hand, some of that bait was pretty serious. We really don't need illustrated sex fiction in elementary and jr high libraries, but it was.

    That's what they say on the news, but my teenage daughter hasn't reported any of that to me (and she reads tons of books, and she's quite conservative like dad & mom.)

    Leave it to the media to tell us about bizarre crap that happened in some backwards liberal town a thousand miles away. I'll take porn in school
    libraries if that's the price we have to pay to restore national security.

    I don't have kids but being an uncle to several young ladies, that one triggers me some, too. I don't think it is fair for a washed-up or never-been male competitor to decide they are a female (after enjoying
    the benefits of male puberty) and stealing opportunites from biological women.

    Try to ignore it. It's bait. Every school (maybe I'm right about this) has their own autonomy over those kinds of issues.

    But I do think they need to downplay it during their campaigns. Some Republicans are using those trigger topics to play to their base, but
    they need instead to find things that affect us all (like the cost of
    food and other basic necessities) and focus on that.

    That's logical, but maybe they need to use the trigger language a little in order to get idiots to go out and vote.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Tue Aug 8 03:06:00 2023
    On 08-07-23 10:55, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Ib Joe about Re: Enjoy the Trump <=-

    I would say when they'd not be viable outside the womb. And, by
    viable, I would say that means they can live and breathe on their own without life support, be fed orally, and do other things that many
    premies who live normal lives can do.

    If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be
    alive, then no they are not viable.

    Be careful with that last statement. Do you mean that they must never
    depend on a machine to stay alive, or that they would always need to be
    on a life support machine to stay alive. Many premies need neonatal
    machines for a period of time and then can be taken off them and live
    without such support. I would call that viable, and past the time when abortion should be allowed (if that is all of the relevant facts).

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Aug 8 07:40:26 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Prior to Roe V Wade being overturned there was no way to argue for the baby's rights...

    Roe vs. Wade did nothing more than move the abortion issue from the states to the federal level. It allowed the Elitists to more easily push their agenda since they only had 1 venue, not 50, to contest things.

    I have no problem with factions arguing things out... If it weren't for the pro-life community not backing down, playing the long-game, these babies might not have a chance...

    And it forces the anti-abortion community to take as extreme a stance as the pro-abortion community. Hence the inability to find common ground and settle this once and for all.

    That is by design. The Elitists want to break people into groups. It's called "divide and conquer". Many tyrants have used this method. Abortion is simply another way to divide people.

    It's funny... There is a stat out there that show over 70+ % of
    Americans support a woman's right to choose... The left love to talk
    about that number... It's not until you look into that a little deeper that you understand it better...

    I am sceptical of any number brought out by the Elitists.

    The only way to shut the left up on the abortion issue is to take the
    tax payer's money away... Problem solved!!!

    I think most people (on both sides of the debate) would agree that tax dollars should **not** be used.

    But, again, that's not the Elitists' plan. So they don't want that.

    It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...

    Because things are even worse there.

    All I have to do is shoot one of them, gentleman callers, in the leg... and the word will get out... HAHAHA... My oldest daughter is turning
    39 this September... Never a fear... Youngest daughter... 13... has
    never gave me a reason to be fearful... But because of how sick our society is... I worry constantly.

    I'm remembering Bill Engvall's monologue on this topic.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Aug 8 07:55:00 2023
    I don't have kids but being an uncle to several young ladies, that one triggers me some, too. I don't think it is fair for a washed-up or never-been male competitor to decide they are a female (after enjoying the benefits of male puberty) and stealing opportunites from biological women.

    Try to ignore it. It's bait. Every school (maybe I'm right about this) has the
    own autonomy over those kinds of issues.

    I think they still do. In some cases, it could be at athletic conference level.

    But I do think they need to downplay it during their campaigns. Some Republicans are using those trigger topics to play to their base, but they need instead to find things that affect us all (like the cost of food and other basic necessities) and focus on that.

    That's logical, but maybe they need to use the trigger language a little in or
    r to get idiots to go out and vote.

    As Hilary proved in 2016, a base who is convinced of a win is dangerous, so maybe a little.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Tue Aug 8 08:00:00 2023
    If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be
    alive, then no they are not viable.

    Be careful with that last statement. Do you mean that they must never
    depend on a machine to stay alive, or that they would always need to be
    on a life support machine to stay alive. Many premies need neonatal
    machines for a period of time and then can be taken off them and live
    without such support. I would call that viable, and past the time when abortion should be allowed (if that is all of the relevant facts).

    I played with the wording a lot before posting but still didn't get it
    quite right. ;) I was leaning towards something meaning "always," or at
    least for a very long time.

    It is difficult to precisely quantify.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Aug 8 08:58:40 2023
    On 08 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Roe vs. Wade did nothing more than move the abortion issue from the
    states to the federal level. It allowed the Elitists to more easily
    push their agenda since they only had 1 venue, not 50, to contest things.


    It did a lot... I know your view on the elitists... To return the country back to it's constitutional origins will not be done in one day. 10th amendment was exercised here... Texas celebrated 10,0000 babies being born since Roe was turned over... That may be insignificant to the likes of people who are stuck on agenda driven story lines... OR... we can celebrate the victories and move to the next conquest.


    That is by design. The Elitists want to break people into groups. It's called "divide and conquer". Many tyrants have used this method. Abortion is simply another way to divide people.


    I read an article about how the left is using the same tactics today as Marx did back in 1917.. <---I think that was the date, I might be off by a year... I agree 100% with the article... Marx had an easy target in his day... The working class struggled... It was easy to point that out and gin up the crowed, overthrow the government and install your communist utopia, which BTW works EVERY TIME it's installed... Lenin one time commented on the fact that the middle class growth and the expansion of wealth he observed in the US was unforeseen in his economic model.

    It todays time the Marxist model cannot use the same economic model Marx used... Most Americans, and people in the Western World were happy, for the most part, living their dreams out... So they had to come up with different ways to separate us into different groups... Skin color, Gender... The list goes on and on... and then agitate us and work their Voodoo on us.

    Ron, I don't disagree with you on the elite issue... I gust sense a tone that there is nothing we can do... And that's where we differ. I see the tides turning a little...

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/satisfying-mitch-mcconnell-humiliated- disgraced-angry-crowd-elijah/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=satisf ying-mitch-mcconnell-humiliated-disgraced-angry-crowd-elijah

    Ron, heres an article that popped up while I was writing to you... In it had a few things I was thinking about while I was formulating my ideas. Anyway, Mitch McConnell was heckled for over 5 minutes during a speech in his home state... They were telling him to retire... Pence was heckled while on the campaign trail... telling him he was a sellout... List goes on...

    I was watching a recent Trump rally, he was in South Carolina, and when Linday Graham, the senator for that state, got on the stage he was heckled and boo'd the entire time he was speaking...

    Moreover, I see more and more TouTube channels where disenfranchised democrats are making a move from the Democratic party to the Republican party.

    As a result... I am cautiously optimistic about the future... The Elites may run the media... but independent news sources out there are out telling the truth... Tucker, Megan Kelly ... et al.

    The People are getting tired of the NeoCons and the like... I can't speak about the left... They don't mind being controlled and lied to...


    I am sceptical of any number brought out by the Elitists.


    If you asked anyone you bump into, non-nutjobs, about the abortion issue you'll find support for unfeathered access and no conditions... to a more realistic view where women should have access but there should be limits...

    Just get the Tax Dollars out of the transaction!!!


    I think most people (on both sides of the debate) would agree that tax dollars should **not** be used.


    A lot of people see your point...


    It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...

    Because things are even worse there.


    They'll LOVE Trudeau... Metro-Sexual idiot... Wife just left him.... She claims she prefers men, apparently just like Obama.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Tue Aug 8 23:30:18 2023
    Hello Ron,

    Prior to Roe V Wade being overturned there was no way to argue IJ>for the
    baby's rights...

    Roe vs. Wade did nothing more than move the abortion issue from the states to the federal level.

    Babies have no rights. People do. That is why the Framers of the
    Constitution began the US Constitution with "We the People ..."

    It allowed the Elitists to more easily push their agenda
    since they only had 1 venue, not 50, to contest things.

    Maybe there should be a Baby Bill of Rights. But first you will
    have to start by defining Baby.

    I have no problem with factions arguing things out... If it weren't for
    the pro-life community not backing down, playing the long-game, these
    babies might not have a chance...

    And it forces the anti-abortion community to take as extreme a stance as the
    pro-abortion community. Hence the inability to find common ground and settle this once and for all.

    There is no middle ground, and one cannot be both pro-life and
    anti-life (the terms are contradictory). However, one can be whole
    life. Meaning in every way, shape, and form. But that would mean
    doing away with the death penalty, which those who claim to be
    pro-life will never do.

    That is by design.

    So which one are you? A life-saver, or a killer?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 9 08:06:11 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Ron L. <=-

    story lines... OR... we can celebrate the victories and move to the
    next conquest.

    My point was that the reversal of Roe Vs. Wade made it harder for the Elitists to push their agenda. Now abortion is not a "right" and must be fought on the state level.

    I read an article about how the left is using the same tactics today as Marx did back in 1917.. <---I think that was the date, I might be off
    by a year... I agree 100% with the article... Marx had an easy target
    in his day... The working class struggled... It was easy to point that
    out and gin up the crowed, overthrow the government and install your communist utopia, which BTW works EVERY TIME it's installed... Lenin
    one time commented on the fact that the middle class growth and the expansion of wealth he observed in the US was unforeseen in his
    economic model.

    Yup. Even Marx was confused when the working class didn't rise up.

    But Marx had never worked a day in his life, so didn't understand that economic prosperity brings EVERYONE up.

    It todays time the Marxist model cannot use the same economic model
    Marx used... Most Americans, and people in the Western World were
    happy, for the most part, living their dreams out... So they had to
    come up with different ways to separate us into different groups...
    Skin color, Gender... The list goes on and on... and then agitate us
    and work their Voodoo on us.

    Hitler did something similar during WWII to split up groups in Germany. It made it much easier for the Nazis to control people.

    And we all know about the Democrats' and Nazis' mutual respect. But not even the Nazis wanted to go as far as the Democrats.

    Ron, I don't disagree with you on the elite issue... I gust sense a
    tone that there is nothing we can do... And that's where we differ. I
    see the tides turning a little...

    I want to make people aware of what's going on in the background.

    It's easy for a doctor to see the symptom, for example, but to heal the patient he needs to understand the cause. If he just treats the symptom, then the patient feels better for a while, but the root illness is still there.

    People like Biden and Pelosi are the symptoms. I tend to treat them like Zaphod Beelblebrox from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "As President of the Galaxy, his responsibility in that position was to draw attention away from the true rulers of the universe. To that end, Zaphod and his outrageous behaviour were highly successful."

    We need to handle the symptoms, but we also need to watch for the cause and eliminate that too.

    As a result... I am cautiously optimistic about the future... The
    Elites may run the media... but independent news sources out there are
    out telling the truth... Tucker, Megan Kelly ... et al.

    I'm optimistic too. But those people are the symptoms. The real problems aren't in the public eye.

    And, sadly, for most people, it's "out of sight, out of mind".


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Aug 9 08:40:00 2023
    exercised here... Texas celebrated 10,0000 babies being born since Roe was tu
    ed over... That may be insignificant to the likes of people who are stuck on a
    nda driven story lines... OR... we can celebrate the victories and move to the
    ext conquest.

    What is the proof that all 10,000 would not have been born had it not been overturned?

    It todays time the Marxist model cannot use the same economic model Marx used.
    Most Americans, and people in the Western World were happy, for the most part
    living their dreams out... So they had to come up with different ways to separ
    e us into different groups... Skin color, Gender... The list goes on and on...
    nd then agitate us and work their Voodoo on us.

    Something of note here. I saw a video yesterday of a person who was lamenting that the voices/actions of a few radical "T's" is threatening to separate the LGBTQ community into different groups as others in the group get tired of those few.

    I not only wonder but suspect that maybe they are experiencing the same
    forces of separation that society as a whole is.

    Ron, heres an article that popped up while I was writing to you... In it had a
    ew things I was thinking about while I was formulating my ideas. Anyway, Mitc
    McConnell was heckled for over 5 minutes during a speech in his home state... ey were telling him to retire... Pence was heckled while on the campaign trail
    . telling him he was a sellout... List goes on...

    Mitch was likely heckled by those who would never support a Republican...
    the same ones who'd want him to retire -- so they can replace him with a Democrat -- even if he was the perfect picture of health. That has been
    going on here for years.

    It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to
    Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...

    Because things are even worse there.

    They'll LOVE Trudeau... Metro-Sexual idiot... Wife just left him.... She claim
    she prefers men, apparently just like Obama.

    Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their
    native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their new
    home.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Aug 9 10:02:13 2023
    On 09 Aug 2023, Ron Lauzon said the following...


    My point was that the reversal of Roe Vs. Wade made it harder for the Elitists to push their agenda. Now abortion is not a "right" and must
    be fought on the state level.


    Exactly... Trump says that Pro-Lifers have bargaining power now, where as they didn't during the Roe era.

    I love it when the constitution wins... Amendment 10 you rule..

    Thank you for your clarification.


    Yup. Even Marx was confused when the working class didn't rise up.

    But Marx had never worked a day in his life, so didn't understand that economic prosperity brings EVERYONE up.


    Most elitist, liberal or otherwise, are wealth and or educated and are caught up on the concept of their ideas and not the practical execution of them.

    This is why I say send the homeless and illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the Hollywood Hills... and all the other places they frequent. Lets have these people poop on their yards and do crime on their properties.... Ohhhhh and take away their security and confiscate their guns so they can't defend themselves.... If this would be the case the problem would be solved in a day..


    Hitler did something similar during WWII to split up groups in Germany. It made it much easier for the Nazis to control people.

    And we all know about the Democrats' and Nazis' mutual respect. But not even the Nazis wanted to go as far as the Democrats.


    This is what separates people with goals and those who didn't, or their goals were too small... There will be a time when historians look back and LOL at the Nazis' attempt and marvel at the coordinated, but unsuccessful attempt the Democrats made to bring down the US and the world!!!


    I want to make people aware of what's going on in the background.

    It's easy for a doctor to see the symptom, for example, but to heal the patient he needs to understand the cause. If he just treats the
    symptom, then the patient feels better for a while, but the root illness is still there.

    People like Biden and Pelosi are the symptoms. I tend to treat them like Zaphod Beelblebrox from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "As President of the Galaxy, his responsibility in that position was to draw attention away from the true rulers of the universe. To that end, Zaphod and his outrageous behaviour were highly successful."

    We need to handle the symptoms, but we also need to watch for the cause and eliminate that too.

    As a result... I am cautiously optimistic about the future... The Elites may run the media... but independent news sources out there ar out telling the truth... Tucker, Megan Kelly ... et al.

    I'm optimistic too. But those people are the symptoms. The real
    problems aren't in the public eye.

    And, sadly, for most people, it's "out of sight, out of mind".

    Ur spot on

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Aug 9 10:32:22 2023
    On 09 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    What is the proof that all 10,000 would not have been born had it not
    been overturned?


    I didn't do a full deep dive on this... I suspect they got the number here... A bunch of abortion clinics shut down... They are not open for business and are not killing babies... So if you add up the numbers of abortions that haven't done since Roe was overturned it might add up to 10,0000.

    Even if it was less than that... these babies now have a chance whereas they didn't before.


    Something of note here. I saw a video yesterday of a person who was lamenting that the voices/actions of a few radical "T's" is threatening
    to separate the LGBTQ community into different groups as others in the group get tired of those few.

    I not only wonder but suspect that maybe they are experiencing the same forces of separation that society as a whole is.


    I have heard/seen the same... I follow a lesbian lady where she tackles this issue. in her videos she exposes the tensions that are happening within her community. A trans man can claim to be a woman and as well as claiming to be a woman he can claim to be a lesbian.... And that lesbians should just except his/her reality and "suck his organic dick" <---That was a quote from the trans female lesbian.

    I don't see a problem with people kicking people out of the community. This has gotten WAY to stupid... Trans activists are trying to cram their agenda down everyones throats and push this on people's children.

    I think this is all part of the Marxist ploy to overthrow the US... but that's a whole different message thread.


    Mitch was likely heckled by those who would never support a Republican... the same ones who'd want him to retire -- so they can replace him with a Democrat -- even if he was the perfect picture of health. That has been going on here for years.


    No, Mitch was heckled by his own constituents. There are a group of Republicans who seem to vote all the time against their party and voter's ideals... We have record inflation, not just because Joe Biden signed some bill into law... We have inflation because there are a handful of republicans who vote against their party platform and what the voters want. Lindsay Graham is an other... Boo'd at the last Trump rally...

    From my vantage point I think the people are catching on and are speaking out. There should be term limits... and a cognitive test you need to pass if you want to do the people's business.


    Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their new home.


    Trudeau will fix that quickly... Jail term or big fines... His biological father would be so proud as to what he's done to Canada.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 10 07:45:03 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their
    new home.

    Their lack of self-awareness is legendary.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 10 07:45:03 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    This is why I say send the homeless and illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the Hollywood Hills... and all the other places they frequent. Lets have these people poop on their yards and do crime on their properties.... Ohhhhh and take away their security and confiscate their guns so they can't defend themselves.... If this would be the
    case the problem would be solved in a day..

    It won't happen.

    1. The Elitists are always "Rules for thee, but not for me." So they certainly won't follow the rules they set up for others.
    2. Their Narrative is true. No matter how much evidence to the contrary.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Aug 10 08:23:40 2023
    On 10 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    It won't happen.

    1. The Elitists are always "Rules for thee, but not for me." So they certainly won't follow the rules they set up for others.
    2. Their Narrative is true. No matter how much evidence to the contrary.


    I'm still hopeful that homeless people pooping on rich people's yards will do the trick!!!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Aug 10 08:36:00 2023
    I didn't do a full deep dive on this... I suspect they got the number here... bunch of abortion clinics shut down... They are not open for business and are t killing babies... So if you add up the numbers of abortions that haven't don
    since Roe was overturned it might add up to 10,0000.

    If they knew how many they were doing per week, that'd make sense how they could come up with a close approximation.

    I don't see a problem with people kicking people out of the community. This ha
    gotten WAY to stupid... Trans activists are trying to cram their agenda down ev
    eryones throats and push this on people's children.

    I don't see an issue with disassociating with individuals. I do have some empathy towards those who I might find odd because they are trans but who
    are otherwise very sensible people. I don't see why they should be shunned
    out of a community just because some dumbasses, that they don't agree with,
    are causing trouble.

    I think this is all part of the Marxist ploy to overthrow the US... but that'
    a whole different message thread.

    I actually think that is on topic here because that is what is going on... maybe not to overthrow but to cause something. That would explain a lot,
    and those same forces, which are working against society as a whole, are probably the same ones working against the smaller LGBTQ community.

    Divide us all and then conquer.

    Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their new
    home.

    Trudeau will fix that quickly... Jail term or big fines... His biological fat
    r would be so proud as to what he's done to Canada.

    Yeah, I think they'd realize they needed to come back. That is sad, in the sense that Canada used to be a neighbor that seemed like a good alternative
    but Trudeau has really done a number on the country. At least it is still beautiful, outside the cities.

    I have a few Canadian "non-BBS" friends on the FB. One of them pointed out
    the results of Trudeau's attempt to censor social media. Apparently,
    something that has not got much press here is that the bill also forces the social media companies to pay (either the source, or the Canadian
    government) in order to carry Canadian news.

    Facebook balked at this, so now all of the Canadian news FB pages tell
    Canadian readers that they cannot read their posts online. Meanwhile those
    of us in the US can still access them. Apparently, most other social media companies did the same.

    I wonder now if it is not part of a plan to get all Canadian social media
    users onto a government run platform, similar to what China has.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 10 09:50:28 2023
    On 10 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I don't see an issue with disassociating with individuals. I do have
    some empathy towards those who I might find odd because they are trans
    but who are otherwise very sensible people. I don't see why they should be shunned out of a community just because some dumbasses, that they
    don't agree with, are causing trouble.


    I don't know... We have a lesbian in our house ... if some grown ass man who claimed to be a woman and then claimed to be a lesbian told her to suck his/her organic dick... They/them might have a problem.

    There was a time when the group was AMERICAN... Now the left has taken on the Marxist model everything is one group or an other and then they pit each other against each other to cause division amongst the collective.

    If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.... The LGB people in that community are doing exactly that... Telling everyone it's NOT OKAY to be forcing you ideology down everyone's throat...

    This hearkens back to the Bud Light issue... Most people don't care what you do with your life... or who you have sex with... For the most part... People are just getting tired of being told what to think...

    Budweiser should have came out early with an apology to their base customers. They should have simply said they made an error and that error is simple... Keep out of Politics and Religion... Furthermore, they should have said... Dress in whatever clothes you want... Be whatever sex you want.... and more importantly... have sex with whomever you want... All we ask you is that you drink our beer while doing it.


    I actually think that is on topic here because that is what is going
    on... maybe not to overthrow but to cause something. That would explain
    a lot, and those same forces, which are working against society as a whole, are probably the same ones working against the smaller LGBTQ community.

    Divide us all and then conquer.


    Yup... We know what the Marxist model is... BUT yet, like stupid sheep, we seem to walk right back into the trap every-single-time. Too bad we didn't have an independent media to help point this out to the masses.

    This could be why Trudeau is trying to make independent News illegal in Chinada.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 10 10:04:38 2023
    On 10 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Yeah, I think they'd realize they needed to come back. That is sad, in the sense that Canada used to be a neighbor that seemed like a good alternative but Trudeau has really done a number on the country. At
    least it is still beautiful, outside the cities.


    When I first immigrated to the US it felt like a lateral move... I moved from one country who shared a similar value system... It wasn't like I moved from Cuba to the US... What the difference a few years makes.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 10 20:03:43 2023
    Hello Joe,

    [..]

    Exactly... Trump says that Pro-Lifers have bargaining power now, where as they didn't during the Roe era.

    Those very same "pro-lifers" continue to support state-sanctioned
    murder in the form of executing scores of inmates on life row.
    Imagine that. We are no different than the Taliban in Afghanistan.
    Or the Mullahs in Iran. Murderers.

    I love it when the constitution wins... Amendment 10 you rule..

    What "rights" are reserved for states or the people? What "rights"
    might those be? Oh, that's right. None are listed. Because there are
    none.

    Thank you for your clarification.

    You're welcome.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Fri Aug 11 02:54:05 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I don't see an issue with disassociating with individuals. I do have
    some empathy towards those who I might find odd because they are
    trans
    but who are otherwise very sensible people. I don't see why they
    should
    be shunned out of a community just because some dumbasses, that they
    don't agree with, are causing trouble.


    I don't know... We have a lesbian in our house ... if some grown ass man who
    claimed to be a woman and then claimed to be a lesbian told her to suck his/her organic dick... They/them might have a problem.

    Richard Nixon was a cross dresser. He was also a man. And married.
    To a woman. Why would he have been a problem (if he was still alive)
    had he visited your home?

    Pete Buttigieg is also a man. And married. To another man. I am not
    quite sure which of them is the husband and which one is the wife.
    Maybe both are husbands or both are wives. Really doesn't matter to
    me. Either way, both have been the same person they have always been,
    having the same parts. Why would either or both be a problem if they
    visited your home?

    J. Edgar Hoover was a man. And very gay. But never bothered to marry
    his true love. Served serveral presidents as director of the FBI. Why
    would he have been a problem (if he was still alive) had he visited
    your home?

    Charles Manson was a heterosexual man. Never slept with another guy
    a day in his life. Also never killed anybody (regardless of claimes to
    the contrary). Why would he have been a problem (had he remained free
    and at large) if he had visited your home?

    Some folks choose to change their body parts to match what should be
    their body parts. This is what makes them truly whole, who they should
    be, and will be for all their lives. Why would any of them be a problem
    if they were to visit your home?

    Lesbians are people. Gays are people. Trans are people. Every person
    should be free to decide for themselves who they want to be with, when
    they want to be with them, and to do with them whatever they want.

    Access to quality health care should be for ALL, not just for some,
    or for many. ALL means ALL.

    Government provides, business denies.

    We are all part of what we call the United States of America.
    Nobody is to be left out, as we are all in this together.

    So grab your lesbian, hug her, and hug her friends as well.
    Be the big happy family you were always meant to be.

    You'll thank me later.

    There was a time when the group was AMERICAN...

    All the individuals I mentioned are or were patriotic Americans.
    Although one was kind of tricky, and definitely was a crook.

    Now the left has taken on the Marxist model everything is one group or an other and then they pit each other against each other to cause division amongst the collective.

    Oh, don't be silly. It is all about Bidenomics. Everybody knows that.

    If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.... The LGB people in that community are doing exactly that... Telling everyone it's NOT OKAY to be forcing you ideology down everyone's throat...

    The first of all human rights is access to quality health care.
    Trans are human. Same as gays and lesbians and everybody else.

    This hearkens back to the Bud Light issue...

    Garth Brooks has Bud Light available at his store. He is willing
    to sell it to all his fans, leaving out nobody.

    Most people don't care what you do with your life...

    Trans people care.
    Gay people care.
    Lesbian people care.
    Straight people care.
    Bisexual people care.
    Asexual people care.

    or who you have sex with...

    David Bowie cared.

    For the most part...

    Yes. The Man Who Fell To Earth really did care.

    People are just getting tired of being told what to think...

    Then tune out.

    Budweiser should have came out early with an apology to their base customers. They should have simply said they made an error and that error is simple... Keep out of Politics and Religion... Furthermore, they should have said... Dress in whatever clothes you want... Be whatever sex you want.... and more importantly... have sex with whomever you want... All we ask you is that you drink our beer while doing it.

    Beer companies are doing just fine. Especially with football season
    arriving in a few days. With this heat wave, we could all use a brew.

    For Life,
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Aug 11 07:40:19 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    There was a time when the group was AMERICAN... Now the left has taken
    on the Marxist model everything is one group or an other and then they
    pit each other against each other to cause division amongst the collective.

    It's been going on for a long, long time. Here's a movie from 1945 about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4

    If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.

    But that would make the rabid ones go after them, and they are afraid.

    This hearkens back to the Bud Light issue... Most people don't care
    what you do with your life... or who you have sex with... For the most part... People are just getting tired of being told what to think...

    And I think that's what's really pushing people out of their confort zones.

    Budweiser should have came out early with an apology to their base customers. They should have simply said they made an error and that
    error is simple... Keep out of Politics and Religion... Furthermore,
    they should have said... Dress in whatever clothes you want... Be
    whatever sex you want.... and more importantly... have sex with
    whomever you want... All we ask you is that you drink our beer while
    doing it.

    The problem with that is that the rabid ones will then hit Bud with cries of "transphobic!" and smear them. Remember, you are either with them, or against them. There is no neutral.

    Bud should have simply not gotten into politics at all and just kept up with a marketing of "we have good beer that people like" and if they want to put in a couple of purple haired people also having a good time, no one would have blinked an eye.

    But Bud went woke and green lighted all this. They have no one to blame but themselves.

    The question is whether or not other companies pay attention and de-Woke before they self-destruct too.

    This could be why Trudeau is trying to make independent News illegal in Chinada.

    Dictators always hate people who speak the truth.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Fri Aug 11 07:51:00 2023
    If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.

    But that would make the rabid ones go after them, and they are afraid.

    Yes, there are members of their own community who will call them "phobic"
    for making too much sense.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Aug 11 10:24:41 2023
    Pete Buttigieg is also a man. And married. To another man. I am not
    quite sure which of them is the husband and which one is the wife.

    In the Fox News comments section, people refer to Buttigieg as Pete "The Wife" Buttigieg. I think it's because he talks about his husband too much.

    Maybe both are husbands or both are wives. Really doesn't matter to
    me. Either way, both have been the same person they have always been,

    I think it's more polite to think of him Pete "The Unprecedented Quantity of Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Aug 11 10:33:04 2023
    On 11 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    But Bud went woke and green lighted all this. They have no one to blame but themselves.

    The question is whether or not other companies pay attention and de-Woke before they self-destruct too.


    This is funny I read that Budweiser had to sell off a bunch of craft beer companies to help pay the bills... Not sure if they'll ever recover...

    BTW, funny note... I don't think Disney is getting it. They recently came out with a Minni Mouse dress line and they hired a trans-gender to model and promote the dress line.

    An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some female cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself publicly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a 16 YO...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 12 14:48:10 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Pete Buttigieg is also a man. And married. To another man. I am not
    quite sure which of them is the husband and which one is the wife.

    In the Fox News comments section, people refer to Buttigieg as Pete "The Wife" Buttigieg. I think it's because he talks about his husband
    too much.

    One can never talk too much about the one you love.

    Maybe both are husbands or both are wives. Really doesn't matter to
    me. Either way, both have been the same person they have always been,

    I think it's more polite to think of him Pete "The Unprecedented Quantity of
    Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.

    As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
    Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
    you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
    one they love?

    Love conguers all.

    Peace on, bro.
    --Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 12 09:02:28 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This is funny I read that Budweiser had to sell off a bunch of craft
    beer companies to help pay the bills... Not sure if they'll ever recover...

    They won't. They haven't learned.

    BTW, funny note... I don't think Disney is getting it. They recently came out with a Minni Mouse dress line and they hired a trans-gender to model and promote the dress line.

    Yup. Disney is done. They pissed off the mama bears. Bad idea.

    Bud and Disney will slowly die and their properties will be sold off or die off.

    I wonder what ultra-rich person will buy the "Disney Catalog".

    I figure Elon will buy the theme parks for pennies on the dollar, un-woke them, and make a(nother) bundle of money.

    An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some female cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself publicly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a
    16 YO...

    A 16-year old boy with autism (i.e. no filter).

    Reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes:

    "But the Emperor has nothing at all on!" said a little child.

    "Listen to the voice of innocence!" exclaimed his father; and what the child had said was whispered from one to another.

    "But he has nothing at all on!" at last cried out all the people. The Emperor was vexed, for he knew that the people were right; but he thought the procession must go on now! And the lords of the bedchamber took greater pains than ever, to appear holding up a train, although, in reality, there was no train to hold.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Aug 12 08:15:00 2023
    An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some fe
    le cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself p
    licly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a 16 YO...

    Where did that happen?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Aug 12 08:37:00 2023
    An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some female cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself publicly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a 16 YO...

    A 16-year old boy with autism (i.e. no filter).

    The irony there is that it was not too terribly long ago that having autism
    was a "get out of jail free" card when it came to saying (and sometimes
    doing) things that others couldn't get away with. Now they will be
    punished like the rest of us for pointing out someone else's "get out of
    jail free" card.

    Reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes:

    That is a good point!


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 12 09:26:38 2023
    On 12 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Yup. Disney is done. They pissed off the mama bears. Bad idea.

    Bud and Disney will slowly die and their properties will be sold off or die off.


    Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there... I use to live ~1.5 hours away. I went to Disney soooooooooo many times... family would come down and want to go... I heard "It's a small world after all" Soooooooooooo many times I swore to god I was going to loose. I survived my numerous trips.

    :)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Aug 12 11:38:18 2023
    On 12 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Where did that happen?


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/officers-drag-autistic-girl-from-home-for- saying-cop-looks-like-my-lesbian-nana/ar-AA1f8Kaz

    It was a 16 YO autistic girl... She said that the copy looks like her lesbian aunt... The cop, being sensitive, took in as homophobic and through the cuffs on the disabled girl.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Aug 12 12:09:24 2023
    Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.

    As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
    Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
    you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
    one they love?

    How do you know that they're happy together? How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more train wrecks than he has fingers to count them with?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 12 12:15:56 2023
    Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there... I use to live ~1.5 hours away. I went to Disney soooooooooo many times... family would
    come down and want to go... I heard "It's a small world after all" Soooooooooooo many times I swore to god I was going to loose. I
    survived my numerous trips.

    My kids know (because they hear it a lot) that Democrats are incredibly evil, and perhaps not even human (I talk a lot.) They don't want to go to Disney World, and they don't watch the Disney Channel either.

    I went there when I was a kid in the early 80s and enjoyed it, but I can't be signing paychecks for some awful reptilian media company.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 13 09:00:41 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there...

    With the woke-ness coming out, plus ripping the mask away from the whole Reedy Marsh mess I think has put some tarnish on that icon.

    Like everything it seems, good people set it up and grow it, then the Elitists infiltrate it and wreck it.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 13 15:41:56 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.

    As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
    Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
    you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
    one they love?

    How do you know that they're happy together?

    They both play with the same set of toys without complaint.

    How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more train wrecks
    than he has fingers to count them with?

    That's what happens when both play with their choo-choos on the same
    railway tracks.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 13 10:19:49 2023
    As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
    Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
    you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
    one they love?

    It's Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.

    Love conguers all.
    Yeah it's all fun and games until one or both gets a STD, or worse AIDS. queers.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 13 10:33:10 2023
    On 13 Aug 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there...

    With the woke-ness coming out, plus ripping the mask away from the whole Reedy Marsh mess I think has put some tarnish on that icon.

    Like everything it seems, good people set it up and grow it, then the Elitists infiltrate it and wreck it.

    U got that right mate!!!!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Aug 14 05:53:07 2023
    Hello Greg,

    As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
    Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
    you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
    one they love?

    It's Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.

    For all we know both were true hermaphrodites.
    And one was cloned from the other, created from a rib.
    And then given one commandment.
    And only one for them to follow and obey.
    Be fruitful and multiply.

    Love conguers all.

    Yeah it's all fun and games until one or both gets a STD, or worse AIDS. queers.

    Gays and lesbians are no more at risk of contracting an STD,
    AIDS, or other disease than any other person. It is all in your
    head. The drivel you have been brainswashed with is simply not
    true.

    An individual's sexual orientation does not make them sick.
    What a silly thought, as if such was the case then each and
    every one of us on this planet would be dead.

    Buttigieg and his wife/husband (not sure which is which) are
    very committed - to each other - as they are married - to each
    other - and have never cheated - on each other.

    No really sure about the being fruitful and multiply part,
    but I presume both are able to donate sperm.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Aug 13 22:05:22 2023
    How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more train wrecks
    than he has fingers to count them with?

    That's what happens when both play with their choo-choos on the same railway tracks.

    Not all gay guys are dumb asses. Just the ones that vote for Democrats.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 14 21:15:43 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more
    train
    wrecks
    than he has fingers to count them with?

    That's what happens when both play with their choo-choos on the same
    railway tracks.

    Not all gay guys are dumb asses. Just the ones that vote for Democrats.

    Log Cabin Republicans vote for Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders?
    And all other Democrats? My, my. Almost like Twisted Sister.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Aug 14 17:37:45 2023
    Not all gay guys are dumb asses. Just the ones that vote for Democrat

    Log Cabin Republicans vote for Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders?
    And all other Democrats? My, my. Almost like Twisted Sister.

    I never heard of them until now. It looks hacky; they just want to be like the Democrats, but I can see through it. What's not very "Republican" about them is that they've forgotten that we're all one community, and that there's no such thing as an "lgbtq community" in the USA.

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