Trump is not missing. He's busy these days spinning up fresh
conspiracies to rile up his base.

Tucker Carlson is interviewing all the Republican presidential candidates to figure out which ones are RINOs, but Trump didn't participate just yet.

Tucker Carlson is a liar.

Trump doesn't "spin anything up."

Donald Trump is a liar of epic proprtions. He always has been and always will be.

He's right about everything he says. The media is full of it.

The media?

How can you trust the media??

I trust the facts.

They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is that socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

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It's hard to trust anyone besides Trump. These other guys just emerged
from out of nowhere. Trump can't even get a decent running mate because everyone just sucks so bad.

Which ones do you think emerged from out of nowhere? There are some I'd
not heard of before, but most of them have held office before and some for
a while. They are known entities to many.


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Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

It's hard to trust anyone besides Trump. These other guys just emerged from out of nowhere. Trump can't even get a decent running mate because everyone just sucks so bad.

Which ones do you think emerged from out of nowhere? There are some
I'd not heard of before, but most of them have held office before and
some for a while. They are known entities to many.

Perception plays a part. Vivek, for example, doesn't get much MSM air time (or didn't until recently). So he looks like he just "emerged out of nowhere" if you weren't watching other sources of news.

But sometimes they really do appear out of nowhere. In our last Gov election in Michigan, we were paying attention to the candidates. Then in the month before the election this Tudor Dixon magically appears and grabs a bunch of of the Rep votes - just enough to pull the other candidates down and let the incumbent traitor/tyrant "win".


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Perception plays a part. Vivek, for example, doesn't get much MSM air time

o

didn't until recently). So he looks like he just "emerged out of nowhere" if you weren't watching other sources of news.

He is the only one I can think of that I didn't really know much about beforehand... at least out of the serious contenders. He does seem smart,
and well spoken.

But sometimes they really do appear out of nowhere. In our last Gov election in Michigan, we were paying attention to the candidates. Then in the month before the election this Tudor Dixon magically appears and grabs a bunch of

f

the Rep votes - just enough to pull the other candidates down and let the incumbent traitor/tyrant "win".

I know that happens. In the case of Michigan, I would not doubt the possibility that Dixon's magical appearance did exactly what it was
intended to.


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Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

He is the only one I can think of that I didn't really know much about beforehand... at least out of the serious contenders. He does seem
smart, and well spoken.

Ya, I like him. He doesn't have the presence of Trump, but he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and his platform isn't "take from the 'rich' and give to the poor".

I know that happens. In the case of Michigan, I would not doubt the possibility that Dixon's magical appearance did exactly what it was intended to.

That was my take on it too.


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How can you trust the media??

I trust the facts.

They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is tha socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talking points.

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It's hard to trust anyone besides Trump. These other guys just MP> MP> AT> AT> emerged
from out of nowhere. Trump can't even get a decent running mate MP> MP> AT> AT> becaus
everyone just sucks so bad.

Which ones do you think emerged from out of nowhere? There are some I'd not heard of before, but most of them have held office before and some
for a while. They are known entities to many.

I never heard of Vivek Ramaswamy until now. That doesn't mean that I don't like him, but where did he come from? Why does he want to be president all of a sudden? I'm suspicious about how "wonderful" he is, because only Democrats know how to present themselves in such a convincing way.

The other candidates, well I've heard of them, but why do they want to be president all of a sudden? They haven't done enough to prove themselves, and I'm willing to bet that we'll have buyer's remorse later down the road with any of them.

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They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is tha >> > socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talking points.

What are reporters doing and how am I backing up their talking points?

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On 07-21-23 16:16, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Ib Joe about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

The leftists are still leftists - I don't think that
moderates are a real thing. A headline reading "Trump
partners with former Democrat" would frustrate me.

Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally
among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

Dale Shipp
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(1:261/1466)


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They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is >> > socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talk points.

What are reporters doing and how am I backing up their talking points?

For example, you recently posted a message to me about "Trump is a liar." But just like the reporters, you said it without citing any specific lies; it's just "Trump's a liar and that concludes today's portion of the CBS Evening News."

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Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

I like what I'm hearing from everyone about "moderates."

Do you know other people who you'd consider "moderate?" I just don't see them anywhere (except for you.) But of course not everyone tells me their political beliefs.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

I never heard of Vivek Ramaswamy until now.

Unless you've been watching alternate news sources, you probably won't have heard of him. MSM hasn't given him any air time until recently.

That doesn't mean that I
don't like him, but where did he come from? Why does he want to be president all of a sudden? I'm suspicious about how "wonderful" he is, because only Democrats know how to present themselves in such a
convincing way.

I don't know if I'd call him "wonderful", but he is well spoken, talks the anti-Woke talkin points and seems very intelligent.

But I understand your suspicion. After the diaster of Tudor Dixon here in Michigan, I'm very leery about "magic" candidates on the Republican side.

I still think that Tudor was an Elitist plant to pull votes away from better Republican candidates that would have made it much harder for the Dems to cheat in the last election.

The other candidates, well I've heard of them, but why do they want to
be president all of a sudden?

Sometimes just to get exposure for other offices in the future.


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What are reporters doing and how am I backing up their talking points?

For example, you recently posted a message to me about "Trump is a liar." But just like the reporters, you said it without citing any specific lies; it's just "Trump's a liar and that concludes today's portion of the CBS Evening News."

The big lie that the election was stolen comes to mind.

I have more if you need more.

Donald Trump is indeed a big fat liar.

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I never heard of Vivek Ramaswamy until now. That doesn't mean that I don't

ik

him, but where did he come from? Why does he want to be president all of a

ud

n? I'm suspicious about how "wonderful" he is, because only Democrats know

ow

o present themselves in such a convincing way.

Of the ones that have a following, he is the one I was not so familiar with.
As for Democrats only knowing how to present themselves, Trump has a whole
lot of followers who'd likely disagree with you. OTOH, I don't feel like
Biden is doing so well in the self-presentation department these days.


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Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally
among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes
but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone
who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans very left, is very slim.


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The big lie that the election was stolen comes to mind.

I still believe that the 2020 election was interfered with; I wouldn't use the word "stolen," but I think Trump was basically right about that.

I have more if you need more.

What else did he lie about?

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On 07-22-23 08:04, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Moderates <=-

Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

I like what I'm hearing from everyone about "moderates."

Do you know other people who you'd consider "moderate?" I
just don't see them anywhere (except for you.) But of
course not everyone tells me their political beliefs.

Yes I do know other moderates. The problem is that many (most?)
moderates keep quiet unless there is some issue that is especially
important to them. It is the ultra liberals and ultra conservatives who
are the vocal majority who make the most noise, not all of which is true factual. My passion is to correct what I see as fake noise -- no matter
who says it.

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On 07-22-23 10:29, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Moderates <=-

Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally
among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who
consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans
very left, is very slim.

Note that I said "statistics" and not "antedotes". Individual
observations mean very little when talking about the nation as a whole.

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The big lie that the election was stolen comes to mind.

I still believe that the 2020 election was interfered with;

In what way?

I wouldn't use the word "stolen," but I think Trump was basically right about that.

Explain.

If you wouldn't use the word "stolen", then what is Trump right about?

I have more if you need more.

What else did he lie about?

More recently Trump has said that the DOJ, Justice department, and the Biden administration have weaponized against him.

These are obvious lies. Trump is being investigated and/or arrested because of his crimes.

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Hello Aaron,

How can you trust the media??

I trust the facts.

They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis.

Is tha

socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talking
points.

It is really hard wrapping my head around the idea of watching Alan
on television as Rachel Maddow ...

For Life,
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Hello Alan,

They exploit black, gay, an now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is tha
socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

I don't see any of that in my social circle.

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talking
points.

What are reporters doing and how am I backing up their talking points?

They are reporting the news and you are repeating it.
Why do you ask?

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Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans very left, is very slim.

Note that I said "statistics" and not "antedotes". Individual
observations mean very little when talking about the nation as a whole.

And my point is that you are going to get people who place themselves innaccurately (when compared to how they vote) in those statistics.


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For example, you recently posted a message to me about "Trump is a liar."

u

just like the reporters, you said it without citing any specific lies; it's just "Trump's a liar and that concludes today's portion of the CBS Evening News."

The big lie that the election was stolen comes to mind.

I believe he took the polls, and his rally turnouts, for granted. Sort
of like the Hillary supporters in 2016 who spent the next four years
parrotting the "not my President" mantra.


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Mike has said before that he too believes that moderates exist. I hope you guys are right about that. I just don't personally know any.

I personally don't know of any either... Ever since Barry & Mike hit the

cene

oderates are as scarce as hen's teeth. Maybe they are just being quiet

ecaus

they don't want to get canceled buy the left.

You are making me want to change my name. :)

I think you are right about the cancelling thing. Then again, I have some leftist friends who believe that there is no radical left and that they are moderates. Knowing that they supported the antics of Antifa in 2020, I
wanted to ask them if they really believe that Antifa is a arm of the
"radical middle" but I didn't want to get drawn into their yelling/cursing others into submission routine.


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important to them. It is the ultra liberals and ultra conservatives who are the vocal majority who make the most noise, not all of which is true factual. My passion is to correct what I see as fake noise -- no matter who says it.

I wish the media would do the same.

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I still believe that the 2020 election was interfered with;

In what way?

Lots of ways: Nevada turned election day into election week-and-a-half. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state.
(Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

Covid was engineered for the sole purpose of removing Trump from office. (People often blame the sitting president for everything.)

Every TV show, TV channel, and celebrity espoused anti-Trump culture.
(All we know about Trump is what we hear in the media.)

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

I consider all this stuff "election interference" because it was all orchestrated for the sole purpose of altering the election outcome, and it just barely worked (Obama was shocked that nearly 1/2 of America's voters didn't fall for it.)

What else did he lie about?

More recently Trump has said that the DOJ, Justice department, and the Biden administration have weaponized against him.

Who's to say that it's a lie? There are other people repeating the claim. Nothing's been proven otherwise yet.

These are obvious lies. Trump is being investigated and/or arrested because of his crimes.

Trump is a huge threat to Democrat access to taxpayer revenue. Money makes people evil. Evil people will do anything they can to maintain the flow. Trump hasn't hurt the American people in any way at all, but Biden has, yet all the eyes are still focused on Trump.

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But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up their talking
points.

It is really hard wrapping my head around the idea of watching Alan
on television as Rachel Maddow ...

He's a very capable and intelligent guy. He can do better than Rachel. I bet he has a nicer hairstyle too.

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The big lie that the election was stolen comes to mind.

I believe he took the polls, and his rally turnouts, for granted. Sort
of like the Hillary supporters in 2016 who spent the next four years parrotting the "not my President" mantra.

Regardless of polls or rally turnouts the story that "the lection was stolen" is just a lie. One of many.

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In what way?

Lots of ways: Nevada turned election day into election week-and-a-half. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

Biden didn't need to catch up, the votes needed to be counted.

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

See above.

Covid was engineered for the sole purpose of removing Trump from office. (People often blame the sitting president for everything.)

Covid had nothing to do with the election.

Folks may have taken Trump's actions or lack thereof around covid into their vote but covid did not change the election.

Every TV show, TV channel, and celebrity espoused anti-Trump culture.
(All we know about Trump is what we hear in the media.)

We all know Trump for who he is. He is not camera shy.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

It was not proven false. That is magical thinking.

I consider all this stuff "election interference" because it was all orchestrated for the sole purpose of altering the election outcome, and it just barely worked (Obama was shocked that nearly 1/2 of America's voters didn't fall for it.)

There is no basis in fact for any of that.

What else did he lie about?

More recently Trump has said that the DOJ, Justice department, and the
Biden administration have weaponized against him.

Who's to say that it's a lie? There are other people repeating the claim. Nothing's been proven otherwise yet.

The courts.

Many (something like 60) court cases were filed but they all failed for lack of evidence.

These are obvious lies. Trump is being investigated and/or arrested
because of his crimes.

Trump is a huge threat to Democrat access to taxpayer revenue.

Trump is a huge threat to democracy and all Americans. Democrats and Republicans alike.

He tried to overturn the will of the people.

Money makes people evil. Evil people will do anything they can to maintain the flow.

I agree that some are evil. Money does not make someone good or evil.

Trump hasn't hurt the American people in any way at all, but Biden has, yet all the eyes are still focused on Trump.

Trump's attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election has hurt all Americans and the democracy they have been growing and nurturing to create a more perfect union.

Today Donald trump is not the only threat.

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On 23 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

Lots of ways: Nevada turned election day into election week-and-a-half. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

Biden didn't need to catch up, the votes needed to be counted.

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

See above.

imo of you're a lazy loser that can't be bothered to vote within the normal timeframe, and have to be coerced with a mail-in ballot to do anything more difficult than tap on your phone like a trained monkey i'm not sure you deserve to vote.

hell, make it a month, make it compulsory, and we can tack on all the people that have such a low grasp of the world around them they think Hawaii is a country. that's who we want to make sure votes.

but the point you missed isn't about counting, it's about the lazy losers. i'm sure day 10 or 11 in Nevada was busy..

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NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state.
(Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

See above.

imo of you're a lazy loser that can't be bothered to vote within the normal timeframe, and have to be coerced with a mail-in ballot to do anything more difficult than tap on your phone like a trained monkey i'm not sure you deserve to vote.

This is not about voters, lazy or otherwise.

It is simply about counting the votes.

hell, make it a month, make it compulsory, and we can tack on all the people that have such a low grasp of the world around them they think Hawaii is a country. that's who we want to make sure votes.

Every voter should be able to have their vote counted.

If we can't do that we might as well close up shop and forget about it.

but the point you missed isn't about counting, it's about the lazy losers. i'm sure day 10 or 11 in Nevada was busy..

It was not about voters. Voters had already voted. The issue was counting the votes.

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Lots of ways: Nevada turned election day into election week-and-a-half. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

Biden didn't need to catch up, the votes needed to be counted.

That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's a holiday in the USA. We've never seen "Election Day" mutate into "Election 10 Days" until Trump.

Covid was engineered for the sole purpose of removing Trump from office. (People often blame the sitting president for everything.)

Covid had nothing to do with the election.

All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump for covid; they did not hesitate for a second. They convinced the voters that Trump was the reason why covid entered the country. Despite the common knowledge that it entered every country on earth, USA voters were conditioned to believe that it entered the USA because of Trump.

Folks may have taken Trump's actions or lack thereof around covid into their vote but covid did not change the election.

When people are grieving, they're going for throats. If someone told me that my loved one died from covid because of Trump, I'd pounce on him (but fortunately I can see through that BS.) There have even been leftists here on Fido who have blamed Trump for covid.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

It was not proven false. That is magical thinking.

The tall tale wasn't proven true either.

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hell, make it a month, make it compulsory, and we can tack on all the AI> > pe
that have such a low grasp of the world around them they think Hawaii AI> > is
country. that's who we want to make sure votes.

Every voter should be able to have their vote counted.

If we can't do that we might as well close up shop and forget about it.

Election day means election day. Why make excuses for them?

Think of it this way:
$today = 07232023;
$electionDay = 11032020;
if ($today !== 11032020){
echo "It's too late to vote.";} else {
echo "Your vote has been accepted!";}

That's how our system works, or, workED until pesky Trump needed to be removed.

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Biden didn't need to catch up, the votes needed to be counted.

That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's a holiday in the USA. We've never seen "Election Day" mutate into "Election 10 Days" until Trump.

Sure, you vote on election day but the votes are not all counted on that day. Often there is a projected winner shortly after the polls close but if the race is close that may not be the case.

Covid had nothing to do with the election.

All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump for covid; they did
not hesitate for a second. They convinced the voters that Trump was the reason
why covid entered the country. Despite the common knowledge that it entered
every country on earth, USA voters were conditioned to believe that it entered
the USA because of Trump.

I don't know anyone who believes that Trump was responsible for covid.

I know many on the other hand who believe Trump's response was dismal.

Folks may have taken Trump's actions or lack thereof around covid into
their vote but covid did not change the election.

When people are grieving, they're going for throats. If someone told me that m >loved one died from covid because of Trump, I'd pounce on him (but fortunately >I can see through that BS.) There have even been leftists here on Fido who hav
blamed Trump for covid.

I haven't seen that. I've seen many blame Trump for his lousy response to a massive threat.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

It was not proven false. That is magical thinking.

The tall tale wasn't proven true either.

Do you remember how many convictions came from the Mueller probe?

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If we can't do that we might as well close up shop and forget about it.

Election day means election day. Why make excuses for them?

I'm not making excuses.

Think of it this way:
$today = 07232023;
$electionDay = 11032020;
if ($today !== 11032020){
echo "It's too late to vote.";} else {
echo "Your vote has been accepted!";}

This appears to be more magical thinking.

That's how our system works, or, workED until pesky Trump needed to be removed

Trump was removed by the voters.

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You are making me want to change my name. :)

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On 07-23-23 11:24, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Donald Trump is a lia <=-

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

How did that give time for Biden to catch up?

Covid was engineered for the sole purpose of removing Trump
from office. (People often blame the sitting president for
everything.)

What evidence is there that Covid was engineered?

Every TV show, TV channel, and celebrity espoused anti-Trump culture.
(All we know about Trump is what we hear in the media.)

Not every one -- Fox News did not:-}}

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

Members of the Trump campaign did communicate with Russian elements.

Trump is a huge threat to Democrat access to taxpayer revenue. Money
makes people evil. Evil people will do anything they can to
maintain the flow.

Did you realize how accurately you were describing Trump above?

Trump hasn't hurt the American people in any way at all,

Not true, and the best example is how he treated Covid information.

but Biden has, yet all the eyes are still focused on Trump.

How has Biden hurt the American people? Is it because his Build Back
Better bill is making infrastructure work and creating good paying jobs?

Dale Shipp
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On 07-23-23 19:43, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Donald Trump is a lia <=-

That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's
a holiday in the USA. We've never seen "Election Day"
mutate into "Election 10 Days" until Trump.

It didn't. It just took 10 days for the votes cast on or before
election day to get counted.

All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump
for covid; they did not hesitate for a second. They
convinced the voters that Trump was the reason why covid
entered the country. Despite the common knowledge that it
entered every country on earth, USA voters were conditioned
to believe that it entered the USA because of Trump.

You are wrong. He was not blamed for covid, he was blamed for the ways
that he reacted to covid which had the effect of many more deaths and
serious illnesses than there might have been.

Dale Shipp
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On 07-23-23 19:51, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Donald Trump is a lia <=-

Think of it this way:
$today = 07232023;
$electionDay = 11032020;
if ($today !== 11032020){
echo "It's too late to vote.";} else {
echo "Your vote has been accepted!";}

I'm not sure what !== means. I recall that != is not equal. But if
it means greater than, then your code is correct and is exactly what
happened.

That's how our system works, or, workED until pesky Trump
needed to be removed.

That is still how it works.

Me thinks that you are confusing Vote with Count the Vote.

Dale Shipp
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Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Lots of ways: Nevada turned election day into election week-and-a-half. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

Actually, allowed the Elitists time to create fake ballots.

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

More time for fake ballots and miscounting.

In Detroit, Michigan, we have people on camera feeding the same box of ballots into the tabulator again and again - while the counting was **supposed** to havebeen suspended for the evening.

I consider all this stuff "election interference" because it was all orchestrated for the sole purpose of altering the election outcome, and
it just barely worked (Obama was shocked that nearly 1/2 of America's voters didn't fall for it.)

The Elitists always think the plebes are morons. And they are correct - for the ones that vote for the Elitists.

More recently Trump has said that the DOJ, Justice department, and the Biden administration have weaponized against him.

Who's to say that it's a lie? There are other people repeating the
claim. Nothing's been proven otherwise yet.

True. Nothing proven yet. But the evidence continues to mount.

Trump is a huge threat to Democrat access to taxpayer revenue. Money
makes people evil. Evil people will do anything they can to maintain
the flow. Trump hasn't hurt the American people in any way at all, but Biden has, yet all the eyes are still focused on Trump.

The Elitists are masters at misdirection/redirection.

I'm at a point when there's a sensational headline about something, I always look to see what they are trying to distract me from.


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More recently Trump has said that the DOJ, Justice department, and the Biden administration have weaponized against him.

Who's to say that it's a lie? There are other people repeating the claim.

oth

g's been proven otherwise yet.

Weaponized against him specifically might be a stretch. Weaponized against some, while going completely lax on others is not so much of one.


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Covid was engineered for the sole purpose of removing Trump from office. (People often blame the sitting president for everything.)

Covid had nothing to do with the election.

This is not correct.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

It was not proven false. That is magical thinking.

As was thinking it was true.

just barely worked (Obama was shocked that nearly 1/2 of America's voters didn't fall for it.)

There is no basis in fact for any of that.

Obama was indeed shocked that nearly 1/2 of American didn't vote Biden.
There is fact in that.


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hell, make it a month, make it compulsory, and we can tack on all the people

t have such a low grasp of the world around them they think Hawaii is a

ountr

that's who we want to make sure votes.

That is who the left want to be extra sure that votes.


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but the point you missed isn't about counting, it's about the lazy losers. i'm sure day 10 or 11 in Nevada was busy..

It was not about voters. Voters had already voted. The issue was counting the tes.

If it takes them that long to count votes, something is amiss.


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it's a holiday in the USA

To be fair, not everyone gets Election Day off. I would guess that most do not, unless they work for the government or work in a building (like a
school) that is used as a polling place.

My father worked for the federal government and, IIRC, he was not off on Presidential Election Days, while we would be because our school was a
polling place.

All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump for covid; they did

hesitate for a second. They convinced the voters that Trump was the reason

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covid entered the country. Despite the common knowledge that it entered every untry on earth, USA voters were conditioned to believe that it entered the

SA

ecause of Trump.

Remember, they originally blamed Trump for suggesting that we should stop
what we were doing. Don't forget DeBlasio and Pelosi both bristled publicly about the idea that folks shouldn't get out and celebrate Chinese New Year
in their respective towns/districts. Other D's made similar remarks...
that people should be out enjoying their normal activities.

Shortly after, they "never said that" and "were always for shutting down"
to slow the spread.

Trump is not the only one who didn't react quickly, but he is certainly the only one who gets blamed and has it stick.


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NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

How did that give time for Biden to catch up?

While I disagree with his conclusion I also, if true, strongly disagree
with that practice.


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I'm not sure what !== means. I recall that != is not equal. But if
it means greater than, then your code is correct and is exactly what happened.

IIRC, it means the same in some languages as "!=" in others, but I am
guessing typo. :)


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How has Biden hurt the American people? Is it because his Build Back Better bill is making infrastructure work and creating good paying jobs?

More people died under Biden then Trump, due to covid and covid related illnesses. You can look that up anywhere.

At the Oct. 22, 2020, debate against then-President Donald Trump, Joe Biden said anyone who is responsible for 220,000 deaths from COVID should not be president.

By my calculations, Joe Biden is now responsible for 417,000 + deaths more than the 396,000 who died while Trump was president. By his own thought process, Biden should have resigned several months ago, especially since he told us he was going to fix this.

Unbelievable that so many people could have voted for this incompetent fool. Biden has many gaffes on Youtube, I am really surprised that he does not have a youtube award hanging in his office, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynpHSU36Q00

Then there is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GurAj0LyJpw
reading from cue-cards and mumbling, Biden is a disgrace.

It was under Trump's order that he made tens of thousands of beds available, he also ordered two hospital ships on each side of the nation, he also put companies to work to make hundreds of ventilators available not only for use here in the U.S. but also helped other nations as well.

You people on the left claim to be factual but most of you if not every single one of you have a selective memory when it comes to Trump and all the good that he did as it relates to covid response the China Virus + and for the positivity of the Nation.

You might think your being honest and factual but when the real truth is known (later-on) after the so called facts are initially released, then we all learn what really happened and why.
All of you are proven to be dishonest and even deceitful.

Covid in the U.S. is something that should of never have come to our shores and it wouldn't of if the stupid Chinese would of locked down their country, I don't want to hear the excuses, well they did not know, they knew GD well what they were doing, they locked down Wuhan... but then they let their citizens fly out of China. Sounds very much the intentional to me.

They should be punished for it. Nothing will bring back the dead, but they may rest easier. This pansy of a President Biden will do nothing about that, he is too busy lying to the American people, when he has said on several occasions that he was not involved and knew nothing of his sons Hunter's business dealings, now WE are learning that he did know, because he was not only involved but was actually on the take as well, there is tons of evidence that he did know and is personally profiting from these dealings along with his crack head son Hunter.

They are truly a crime family syndicate. Records show Millions received, they thought they were slick putting all that money into hundreds shell companies LLC's. Yeah we know about that too. His goose is cooked. As more information comes out the DOJ and the FBI will not be able to protect him.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grass ley_-_biden.pdf

You can talk about and suggest look at Trump all you wish, it is a whole bunch of nothing.

There is a word for word Transcript from the following locations,
Trump & his GA Phone call. Newsflash it's not illegal to ask go find votes. January 6th word for word transcript there too.
Document's Case nothing there either.
Go get educated: https://www.archives.gov/news/topics/presidential-records-act The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) applies to the Presidential Records Act (PRA) FIVE YEARS AFTER THE PRESIDENT HAS LEFT OFFICE. NARA uses this time to begin to conduct archival processing and otherwise prepare for the onset of public access. (Trump Presidential records will become subject to FOIA on January 20, 2026).

Trump is extremely innocent compared to Biden.
As it turns out the phone call that Trump made to President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy, of which Trump was impeached over and Acquitted, as it turns out he was right to ask because we all finding out now the truth as more information is known. btw President Zelenskyy was not threatened by Trump in anyway, he was asked "Did Donald Trump threaten you?" Zelesnkyy was taken back and acted shocked as well as surprised as he Zelenskyy said he did not feel threated in any way.

Every lefty outlet tried to make a story out of that but as usual it failed and did NOT have the intended result that was hoped for.

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That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's a holiday in USA. We've never seen "Election Day" mutate into "Election 10 Days" unti Trump.

Sure, you vote on election day but the votes are not all counted on that day. Often there is a projected winner shortly after the polls close but if the race is close that may not be the case.

Yes. What you're saying is true. However, Nevada kept polls open for 10 days, whereas the other 49 states only had polls open on Election Day.

every country on earth, USA voters were conditioned to believe that it en
the USA because of Trump.

I don't know anyone who believes that Trump was responsible for covid.

Just scroll back a few hundred messages and you'll see at least 2 leftists who blamed Trump for covid. Plus the leftists on TV; they blamed him also.

I know many on the other hand who believe Trump's response was dismal.

Ask them how Biden's response was better. The hospitals are still full of covid patients, nobody trusts the vaccine, and the obituaries are still through the roof.

I haven't seen that. I've seen many blame Trump for his lousy response
to a massive threat.

That's the equivalent of blaming Trump for covid.

The tall tale wasn't proven true either.

Do you remember how many convictions came from the Mueller probe?

0 Trump convictions from the Mueller probe.

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That's how our system works, or, workED until pesky Trump needed to be re

Trump was removed by the voters.

And the jews weren't killed by Hitler, but they were killed by his minions.

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NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

How did that give time for Biden to catch up?

It didn't, my mistake, but it gave an unprecedented opportunity to all the voters in my state to vote from home. First time ever, because pesky Trump needed to be removed.

What evidence is there that Covid was engineered?

Dr Anthony Fauci admitted on TV that he mutated SARS, and COVID-19 is a mutation of the SARS virus, and he also admitted to intentionally mutating SARS. The dots are easy to connect.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

Members of the Trump campaign did communicate with Russian elements.

Then we should be calling it the "Members of the Trump campaign/Russia collusion" instead of "Trump/Russia collusion."

Trump is a huge threat to Democrat access to taxpayer revenue. Money makes people evil. Evil people will do anything they can to maintain the flow.

Did you realize how accurately you were describing Trump above?

No, I have no clue. Why does that sound like a Trump description to you?

Trump hasn't hurt the American people in any way at all,

Not true, and the best example is how he treated Covid information.

Trump told us to wear masks. I still wear a mask everywhere I go, and I have not been sick since 2019.

How has Biden hurt the American people? Is it because his Build Back Better bill is making infrastructure work and creating good paying jobs?

His "Bipatisan" Infrastructure Bill was a scam, and red cities still have lead water supply pipes. His border policy changes have allowed millions of unvetted migrants to enter the country. Covid is still killing people rampantly, the covid vaccine is killing and injuring people rampantly, there's an orgy of Chinese equipment in the sky above us, and these are just a few of the ways that Biden has hurt the American people.

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That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's
a holiday in the USA. We've never seen "Election Day"
mutate into "Election 10 Days" until Trump.

It didn't. It just took 10 days for the votes cast on or before
election day to get counted.

Maybe in your state! But Fox News (sometimes credible) reported that Nevada kept polls open for 10 days beyond election day, thereby allowing voters to walk in and cast ballots as late as November 13.

You are wrong. He was not blamed for covid, he was blamed for the ways that he reacted to covid which had the effect of many more deaths and serious illnesses than there might have been.

Whether I'm right or you're right, the bottom line is that Trump was blamed for covid. If not for covid itself, then for the "reaction" to covid. Trump was blamed for covid.

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Think of it this way:
$today = 07232023;
$electionDay = 11032020;
if ($today !== 11032020){
echo "It's too late to vote.";} else {
echo "Your vote has been accepted!";}

I'm not sure what !== means. I recall that != is not equal. But if
it means greater than, then your code is correct and is exactly what happened.

In PHP, it's a "not equal to" comparison operator. If it's not election day, you shouldn't be able to walk into a polling place in Nevada and cast a ballot.

Me thinks that you are confusing Vote with Count the Vote.

Every state counted mail-in ballots after election day, and that has happened in previous elections. But Nevada allowed walk-in voting for 10 days beyond Election Day.

All states have "Early Voting," but only Nevada managed to allow "Late voting."

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The Elitists are masters at misdirection/redirection.

I'm at a point when there's a sensational headline about something, I always look to see what they are trying to distract me from.

Same here. Every story is either intended to distract us from something or intended to interfere with our thought processes. They know what they're doing.

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And then there's the unconstitutional actions by non-Legislative offices in changing election rules. State and Federal Constitutions clearly
state that only the Legialature can set the election rules, yet here in Michigan, for example, the Secretary of State unilaterally changed them
- because of COVID, you know.

Same here. Andrew Cuomo is responsible for all those mail-in ballots being sent out. It wasn't our legislative body.

All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump for covid;

And used COVID as an excuse to change the election rules illegally.

You get it! I don't know how these guys could see it any other way.

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just barely worked (Obama was shocked that nearly 1/2 of America's vot didn't fall for it.)

There is no basis in fact for any of that.

Obama was indeed shocked that nearly 1/2 of American didn't vote Biden. There is fact in that.

Absolutely. It's on video. But trust me, there's no sense in looking for it to give the link to Al. He won't watch a video if it contains content that's contrary to leftist logic.

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To be fair, not everyone gets Election Day off. I would guess that most do not, unless they work for the government or work in a building (like a school) that is used as a polling place.

That's true, but for the people who do get federal holidays off, Al should ask them how many days they got off for Election Day. One, or ten? ;)

Remember, they originally blamed Trump for suggesting that we should stop what we were doing. Don't forget DeBlasio and Pelosi both bristled publicly about the idea that folks shouldn't get out and celebrate
Chinese New Year in their respective towns/districts. Other D's made similar remarks... that people should be out enjoying their normal activities.

Absolutely, I remember. But the people who watch too much TV, nah, they don't remember.

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I'm not sure what !== means. I recall that != is not equal. But if
it means greater than, then your code is correct and is exactly what happened.

In PHP != is a logical operator (use it to change value) and !== is a comparison operator.

I thought if I put it in computer terms then maybe Al would accept my explanation, but nope :(

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All the Democrats and all the media quickly blamed Trump
for covid; they did not hesitate for a second. They
convinced the voters that Trump was the reason why covid
entered the country. Despite the common knowledge that it
entered every country on earth, USA voters were conditioned
to believe that it entered the USA because of Trump.

You are wrong. He was not blamed for covid, he was blamed for the ways that he reacted to covid which had the effect of many more deaths and serious illnesses than there might have been.

Where were you when the CDC needed you, and your expert analysis?
You seem to know an awful lot, but at closer inspection it's just like a bag of Lay's potato chips, half filled with air and sold by weight not by volume.

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On 24 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

That's how our system works, or, workED until pesky Trump needed to b

Trump was removed by the voters.

You might believe that, amongst the smoke so thick you can't even see off your front porch. It was the cheating of the Democratic Party that put Biden into power, everything that has happened w/ the mueller report and Democrats blocking and interfering with Trump's time in office.
You expect WE on the Right that Biden won fairly and squarely, you better put down that Canadian Club and get sober.

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On 07-24-23 16:01, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Donald Trump is a li <=-

NY sent mail-in-ballots to all registered voters throughout the state. (Allowed time for Biden to catch up.)

How did that give time for Biden to catch up?

While I disagree with his conclusion I also, if true, strongly
disagree with that practice.

If his statement about "all" is accurate, but corresponds to the period
of time when there was a severe lock down because of Covid -- does that
change your disagreement?

Would you agree or disagree with sending mail-in-ballots to all
registered voters who request them?

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On 07-24-23 16:03, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Donald Trump is a li <=-

I'm not sure what !== means. I recall that != is not equal. But if
it means greater than, then your code is correct and is exactly what happened.

IIRC, it means the same in some languages as "!=" in others, but I am guessing typo. :)

If that were true, then his code goes against what has been practice for
a long time (decades?). It would imply a vote is valid only if cast on election day. But it is standing practice for early ballots to be cast,
and we have done that for many years.

Dale Shipp
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(1:261/1466)



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On 07-24-23 20:04, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Facts vs Fiction <=-

How has Biden hurt the American people? Is it because his Build Back Better bill is making infrastructure work and creating good paying jobs?

More people died under Biden then Trump, due to covid and
covid related illnesses. You can look that up anywhere.

There is a big difference between "died under" and "died because of".

At the Oct. 22, 2020, debate against then-President Donald
Trump, Joe Biden said anyone who is responsible for 220,000
deaths from COVID should not be president.

By some calculations, 200K is more or less what has been estimated as
the number of deaths *because of* Trumps ineptitude in handling Covid.

By my calculations, Joe Biden is now responsible for 417,000 + deaths more than the 396,000 who died while Trump was president. By his

Again, you are equating "under" with "because of".

Biden has many gaffes on Youtube,

Biden readily admits that he has a stuttering problem. So did a King of England. It does not effect ability to think.

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On 07-24-23 21:19, Aaron Thomas <=-
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That doesn't add up. "Election Day" is "Election Day;" it's
a holiday in the USA. We've never seen "Election Day"
mutate into "Election 10 Days" until Trump.

It didn't. It just took 10 days for the votes cast on or before
election day to get counted.

Maybe in your state! But Fox News (sometimes credible)
reported that Nevada kept polls open for 10 days beyond
election day, thereby allowing voters to walk in and cast
ballots as late as November 13.

Funny, but I can not find any such report -- and find several reports
that say that the polls in Nevada closed on Election Day. Perhaps Fox
News was a little loose with the truth?

Dale Shipp
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Dale Shipp -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2023-07-25 00:39:

Funny, but I can not find any such report -- and find several reports
that say that the polls in Nevada closed on Election Day. Perhaps Fox News was a little loose with the truth?

Never forget Bertrand Russell's wise advice:

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be
accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears
into something he can understand."

Considering that Aaron isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, maybe the true facts were lost in translation?



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More people died under Biden then Trump, due to covid and
covid related illnesses. You can look that up anywhere.

There is a big difference between "died under" and "died because of".

because conjunctions of cause and effect / under indicates responsibility. either way I'm right and you can't stand that can you?

Biden has many gaffes on Youtube,

Biden readily admits that he has a stuttering problem.

This is far more then a stuttering problem, it is a cognition problem.

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Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

Weaponized against him specifically might be a stretch. Weaponized against some, while going completely lax on others is not so much of
one.

At this point, the two-tiered system of justice is on display for all to see.


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Covid had nothing to do with the election.

This is not correct.

Covid was/is a thing but it has nothing to do with the election.

The Trump-Russia collusion story.
(Was proven to be false.)

It was not proven false. That is magical thinking.

As was thinking it was true.

It was true. There were many indictments and convictions around that.

Meuller himself said the invetigation did not exonerate Trump, because it did not.

There is no basis in fact for any of that.

Obama was indeed shocked that nearly 1/2 of American didn't vote Biden.
There is fact in that.

Biden got more votes, he won the popular vote.

There is fact in that.

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It was not about voters. Voters had already voted. The issue was counting
the votes.

If it takes them that long to count votes, something is amiss.

I tend to agree it took a long time in some states.

The last few cycles I have voted by mail. Here in BC those votes are not even counted until 5 days after election day. They give the post office 5 days to get the votes delivered and then they are all counted. Even so those mail in votes have to be post marked on or before election day.

Most times there is a projected winner announced on election night or soon after. If enough people vote by mail there is no way to know the outcome until all the votes are counted.

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Sure, you vote on election day but the votes are not all counted on that
day. Often there is a projected winner shortly after the polls close but
if the race is close that may not be the case.

Yes. What you're saying is true. However, Nevada kept polls open for 10 days, whereas the other 49 states only had polls open on Election Day.

Was that for mail in votes to be collected?

It is the same here in BC but it is only 5 days, and only to collect votes made on or before the election.

I don't know anyone who believes that Trump was responsible for covid.

Just scroll back a few hundred messages and you'll see at least 2 leftists who blamed Trump for covid. Plus the leftists on TV; they blamed him also.

Some may do so, but I haven't heard it. I know many blame trump for his lack of action on covid.

He should have acted on the advice of experts rather than trying to come up with his own solutions like bleach or oxychloroquine.

I know many on the other hand who believe Trump's response was dismal.

Ask them how Biden's response was better. The hospitals are still full of covid patients, nobody trusts the vaccine, and the obituaries are still through the roof.

That is why a pandemic must be taken seriously.

I haven't seen that. I've seen many blame Trump for his lousy response
to a massive threat.

That's the equivalent of blaming Trump for covid.

No, that is blaming trump for his actions, or lack thereof.

Do you remember how many convictions came from the Mueller probe?

0 Trump convictions from the Mueller probe.

Many in Trumps inner circle were convicted. Many were also pardoned by Trump.

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Trump was removed by the voters.

And the jews weren't killed by Hitler, but they were killed by his minions.

Hitler and his minions were guilty.

Trump and some of his minions may very well be guilty also, we'll see.

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His "Bipatisan" Infrastructure Bill was a scam, and red cities still have lead water supply pipes.

A scam you say?

Many republican who voted against the bill seem to support it now that new or improved infrastructure is happening in their states.

It has been a boon to red states as well as blue.

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Obama was indeed shocked that nearly 1/2 of American didn't vote Biden.
There is fact in that.

Absolutely. It's on video. But trust me, there's no sense in looking for it to give the link to Al. He won't watch a video if it contains content that's contrary to leftist logic.

I'm not against hearing/reading conservative thoughts/policies.

I am against lies and bolony and have no time for it.

It is a fact that Joe Biden won the popular vote.

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You might believe that, amongst the smoke so thick you can't even see off your
front porch. It was the cheating of the Democratic Party that put Biden into power, everything that has happened w/ the mueller report and Democrats blocking and interfering with Trump's time in office.
You expect WE on the Right that Biden won fairly and squarely, you better put down that Canadian Club and get sober.

Talk, talk, talk, talk.

The fact is. Biden won by popular vote. Donald Trump never did.

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How did that give time for Biden to catch up?

While I disagree with his conclusion I also, if true, strongly
disagree with that practice.

If his statement about "all" is accurate, but corresponds to the period
of time when there was a severe lock down because of Covid -- does that change your disagreement?

No, not really. I think they should ask you if you want one first, like
they did here. If they are like here, they have many dead people, other
former residents, and bad addresses on their roles.

Would you agree or disagree with sending mail-in-ballots to all
registered voters who request them?

Under those circumstances, if they request them, I would not disagree.


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If that were true, then his code goes against what has been practice for
a long time (decades?). It would imply a vote is valid only if cast on election day. But it is standing practice for early ballots to be cast,
and we have done that for many years.

Here, excluding COVID, you can only send in a mail-in if you qualify for an absentee ballot.

You can now vote early in person, though. They have been having three
early days, including a Saturday, in the week before the Tuesday "on time"
day. I think it works very well.

That said, the turn-out for the recent governor's primary was abyssmal,
even with the three early days. Outside of the urban areas, the rural
counties averaged 18% turnout.


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But most employers will tell their employees that they can come in late or leave early on Election Day to get to the polls - if their normal work schedules don't allow for it.

Seeing how the polls stay open for 12 hours, I don't see where most people would have a problem getting there. And every polling place that I've seen

a

allowed anyone in line before the polls close still vote even if it's after

h

polls have officially closed.

Yes, but some still want there to be exceptions to this, but only for
certain areas. A former poster here thought it was important for the urban centers in their state to have more time to get in line but not so much for other areas (you know, the red parts).

Trump is not the only one who didn't react quickly, but he is certainly the only one who gets blamed and has it stick.

That's only because the Elitists in the media keep harping on it.

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It was under Trump's order that he made tens of thousands of beds available,

also ordered two hospital ships on each side of the nation, he also put

ompan

s to work to make hundreds of ventilators available not only for use here in

U.S. but also helped other nations as well.

His administration also set up mobile hospitals in major cities.
Louisville had one.

Covid in the U.S. is something that should of never have come to our shores

n

it wouldn't of if the stupid Chinese would of locked down their country, I

on

want to hear the excuses, well they did not know, they knew GD well what

hey

ere doing, they locked down Wuhan... but then they let their citizens fly out
China. Sounds very much the intentional to me.

They knew. They were looking to save face... "nothing is happening..." but some of their citizens wouldn't allow the news not to get out.


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Members of the Trump campaign did communicate with Russian elements.

Then we should be calling it the "Members of the Trump campaign/Russia

ollusi

" instead of "Trump/Russia collusion."

Communicating <> Colluding. Dale understands that. Someone else here
still does not.


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Biden has many gaffes on Youtube,

Biden readily admits that he has a stuttering problem. So did a King of England. It does not effect ability to think.

Except he does more than stutter now. He trails off and seems to lose his train of thought quite often, especially when you consider that he often
does not take press questions. Most of what he says on the record is
prepared.


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If that were true, then his code goes against what has been practice for
a long time (decades?). It would imply a vote is valid only if cast on election day. But it is standing practice for early ballots to be cast, and we have done that for many years.

Right - but now we're practicing "late voting" in Nevada.

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Maybe in your state! But Fox News (sometimes credible)
reported that Nevada kept polls open for 10 days beyond
election day, thereby allowing voters to walk in and cast
ballots as late as November 13.

Funny, but I can not find any such report -- and find several reports
that say that the polls in Nevada closed on Election Day. Perhaps Fox News was a little loose with the truth?

Fox News reporters tell lies often, and just like all the others, they purge articles from time to time. The only way to know for sure would be to ask someone from Nevada, someone who pays attention to elections.

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Considering that Aaron isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, maybe the true facts were lost in translation?

I left the facts at Janice's house. :(

No but seriously, your species are experts at hiding things.

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More people died under Biden then Trump, due to covid and
covid related illnesses. You can look that up anywhere.

There is a big difference between "died under" and "died because of".

Where's the list of people who died because of Trump?

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Covid had nothing to do with the election.

This is not correct.

Covid was/is a thing but it has nothing to do with the election.

It came from the wet market, right? ;)

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On 07-25-23 18:57, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Donald Trump is a li <=-

If that were true, then his code goes against what has been practice for
a long time (decades?). It would imply a vote is valid only if cast on election day. But it is standing practice for early ballots to be cast, and we have done that for many years.

Right - but now we're practicing "late voting" in Nevada.

Are we really? I suspect that is a rumor started by Trump people, and amplified by FOX news -- all with no truth to it.

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On 07-25-23 19:01, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Donald Trump is a li <=-

Funny, but I can not find any such report -- and find several reports
that say that the polls in Nevada closed on Election Day. Perhaps Fox News was a little loose with the truth?

Fox News reporters tell lies often, and just like all the
others, they purge articles from time to time. The only way
to know for sure would be to ask someone from Nevada,
someone who pays attention to elections.

I wonder why if you do not know for sure, why do you help spread the
rumor so much?

Dale Shipp
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His "Bipatisan" Infrastructure Bill was a scam, and red cities still hav lead water supply pipes.

A scam you say?

Many republican who voted against the bill seem to support it now that
new or improved infrastructure is happening in their states.

What infrastructure? There's no new infrastructure in my city. I hope it's working out nicely for somebody.

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Absolutely. It's on video. But trust me, there's no sense in looking AI> > for
to give the link to Al. He won't watch a video if it contains content AI> > th
contrary to leftist logic.

I'm not against hearing/reading conservative thoughts/policies.

I am against lies and bolony and have no time for it.

It is a fact that Joe Biden won the popular vote.

Somewhere, there exists a video of Obama reacting to the # of votes Trump got in his election against Biden. Obama was complaining about "how many" votes Trump got.

It makes it appear that Obama was expecting a landslide victory for Biden, which is not the way it went down, and nobody should have been expecting a landslide victory for the candidate who campaigned from his basement.

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Fox News reporters tell lies often, and just like all the
others, they purge articles from time to time. The only way
to know for sure would be to ask someone from Nevada,
someone who pays attention to elections.

I wonder why if you do not know for sure, why do you help spread the
rumor so much?

I saw and heard about it on TV. I believed it then, and I believe it now. The media makes stuff go away from time to time. Google surely doesn't want that information to stick around.

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Hello Björn,

Perhaps Fox News was a little loose with the truth?

Never forget Bertrand Russell's wise advice:

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be
accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears
into something he can understand."

Considering that Aaron isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, maybe the true facts were lost in translation?

Fox Propaganda channel has trained propagandists on the air.
So let's please give Aaron some credit for being original.

We had live hearings of RFK, Jr. testifying before a Congressional
panel of Republicans today. He is nothing like his father. Although
he did (very briefly) get a part-time job as an assistant district
attorney one time. This guy should be invited to participate in
this forum, as he would fit right in with the MAGA crowd.

For Life,
Lee

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Hello Aaron,

But you see and hear reporters doing it, and then you back-up

their

talking
points.

It is really hard wrapping my head around the idea of watching Alan
on television as Rachel Maddow ...

He's a very capable and intelligent guy. He can do better than Rachel. I bet
he has a nicer hairstyle too.

Except for the teeth. Not his fault, but the hockey puck.
Kind of a rite of passage growing up to manhood. For Canucks.

For Life,
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Aaron Thomas -> Alan Ianson has brought this to us :

Absolutely. It's on video. But trust me, there's no sense in

looking AI> > for

to give the link to Al. He won't watch a video if it contains

content AI> > th

contrary to leftist logic.

I'm not against hearing/reading conservative thoughts/policies.

I am against lies and bolony and have no time for it.

It is a fact that Joe Biden won the popular vote.

Somewhere, there exists a video of Obama reacting to the # of votes Trump got in his election against Biden. Obama was complaining about "how many" votes Trump got.

It makes it appear that Obama was expecting a landslide victory for Biden,

Biden received over 7 million more popular votes than his closest
opponent. He also easily won the electoral college hands down. Most
folks would call that a "landslide victory" ...

which is not the way it went down,

Imagine that. 10 million more voters preferred somebody else other
than the orange clown you and your kind adore and admire ...

and nobody should have been expecting a landslide victory for the candidate
who campaigned from his basement.

Obama told us for years we can all believe in hope and change.

Hope and change arrived on January 20, 2021.

The rest is history.

For Life,
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We had live hearings of RFK, Jr. testifying before a Congressional
panel of Republicans today. He is nothing like his father. Although
he did (very briefly) get a part-time job as an assistant district attorney one time. This guy should be invited to participate in
this forum, as he would fit right in with the MAGA crowd.

He's a Democrat; that means he's 8% more likely to be full of it than a Republican. No thanks!

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On 07-26-23 02:38, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Donald Trump is a li <=-

Fox News reporters tell lies often, and just like all the
others, they purge articles from time to time. The only way
to know for sure would be to ask someone from Nevada,
someone who pays attention to elections.

I wonder why if you do not know for sure, why do you help spread the
rumor so much?

I saw and heard about it on TV. I believed it then, and I believe it
now. The media makes stuff go away from time to time. Google surely doesn't want that information to stick around.

Sounds like, once you accept an "alternate fact" it is hard for you to
admit that it was a lie you were fed.

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