• GARLAND IMPEACHMENT

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Mon Jun 26 14:05:04 2023
    Things aren't looking good for the DOJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_L7olFiet4

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 27 06:20:32 2023
    Things aren't looking good for the DOJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_L7olFiet4

    Seriously?

    Things are looking fine for the DOJ. This is just another MAGA GOP whistleblower like so many before.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jun 27 07:55:23 2023
    On 27 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Things aren't looking good for the DOJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_L7olFiet4

    Seriously?


    Things are looking fine for the DOJ. This is just another MAGA GOP whistleblower like so many before.


    Then you didn't see the video... Kevin McCarthy, speaker of the house and the one who can table the impeachment process, is the one who said they may be going through with it.

    They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to congress. What the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people related to the evidence. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and they can prove Garland lied... he should be impeached...

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 27 07:22:38 2023
    Things are looking fine for the DOJ. This is just another MAGA GOP
    whistleblower like so many before.

    Then you didn't see the video... Kevin McCarthy, speaker of the house and the one who can table the impeachment process, is the one who said they may be going through with it.

    Yes, I saw the video.

    They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to congress. What the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people
    related to the evidence. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and they can prove Garland lied... he should be impeached...

    There is no such document.

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    Sure, if they are in fact whistleblowers.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jun 27 10:40:50 2023
    On 27 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    There is no such document.


    Document... email... refutes Garland's assertion that Delaware prosecutor had full autonomy in the Biden case.... The document is all over the news... They are subpoenaing 6 individuals about said email....

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    Sure, if they are in fact whistleblowers.

    Can't fix stupid

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 27 09:56:40 2023
    There is no such document.

    Document... email... refutes Garland's assertion that Delaware prosecutor had full autonomy in the Biden case.... The document is all over the news... They are subpoenaing 6 individuals about said email....

    Just so you know. I have not seen this in the news. It must be your right wing bubble.

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    Sure, if they are in fact whistleblowers.

    Can't fix stupid

    That is apparently so.

    You are not going to get anything of any real value from Kevin.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jun 27 14:40:08 2023
    On 27 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Just so you know. I have not seen this in the news. It must be your
    right wing bubble.


    New whistle blower today confirming the other one...

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1673763732642471949?s=20

    Brand new today!!!!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Tue Jun 27 15:15:00 2023
    Things are looking fine for the DOJ. This is just another MAGA GOP whistleblower like so many before.

    They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to
    ongress.
    hat the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people related to the
    vid
    ce. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and they can prove Garland ed... he should be impeached...

    Ooops. I am sure a patsie will be presented for sacrafice as "the liar."

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    Yeah, I was surprised he cast shade on whistleblowers, too.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tue Jun 27 15:16:00 2023
    They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to congress. What the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people related to the evidence. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and they can prove Garland lied... he should be impeached...

    There is no such document.

    Where is your proof? Link please.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 27 21:31:02 2023
    Just so you know. I have not seen this in the news. It must be your
    right wing bubble.

    New whistle blower today confirming the other one...

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1673763732642471949?s=20

    Brand new today!!!!

    I just more allegations Joe. A brand new allegation.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 27 21:31:48 2023
    There is no such document.

    Where is your proof? Link please.

    There are no links to documents that don't exist.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 28 13:00:54 2023
    Hello Alan,

    Things aren't looking good for the DOJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_L7olFiet4

    Seriously?

    You should watch the youtube videos of submarine implosions.
    Very popular these days. Millions of viewers, just the past few
    days.

    When you find out the cost to taxpayers for finding the remains
    of those on board ...

    Things are looking fine for the DOJ. This is just another MAGA GOP whistleblower like so many before.

    Ken Starr was right about Monica's blue dress. But nobody bothered
    to take a look.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 28 13:02:34 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Then you didn't see the video...

    Tell us why he wants to expunge the TWO impeachments
    of Donald J. Trump. You do realize pretending impeachments
    never happened does not change the facts.

    While you are at it, tell us why he allowed the House to censor
    Adam Schiff, while refusing to call for the censure of George Santos -
    who has been charged with several criminal counts.

    Kevin McCarthy, speaker of the house and the one who can table the impeachment process,

    And yet he would allow his far-right colleagues to present articles
    of impeachment against Joe Biden - despite no evidence of wrongdoing.
    And while at it, attempt to hide the two impeachments of Donald Trump.
    As if they never happened at all.

    is the one who said they may be going through with it.

    Speaker McCarthy has no control of his own party. So whatever he
    does or attempts to do can be of no surprise to anybody.

    They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to congress.

    Easy to say. Much harder to do. Especially when they have no such
    evidence. So let them do it. If they can. We would all get a good
    laugh. And so would the news media, who would really have a day.

    What the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people related to the evidence. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and they can prove
    Garland lied... he should be impeached...

    Bring it on, baby! Bring it on!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 28 13:02:47 2023
    Hello Joe,

    There is no such document.

    Document... email... refutes Garland's assertion that Delaware prosecutor had full autonomy in the Biden case.... The document is all over the news...

    The investigation is over. All they could come up with was two
    misdemeanor tax charges, and one charge of illegal gun possession
    - that will be expunged from his record.

    They are subpoenaing 6 individuals about said email....

    Big fucking deal. Hillary Clinton is the most investigated woman
    in America, and Hunter Biden will become the most investigated man
    in America. With neither one of them being put in jail for a damn
    thing.

    Meanwhile, your boy George Santos, who has been indicted on several
    criminal counts, continues on as a full-fledged member of Congress,
    never being censored for anything under Speaker McCarthy's universe.

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    Sure, if they are in fact whistleblowers.

    Can't fix stupid

    Stupid is as stupid does.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 28 13:02:53 2023
    Hello Alan,

    Can't fix stupid

    That is apparently so.

    Can't fix crazy, either.

    You are not going to get anything of any real value from Kevin.

    Is he stupid? Is he crazy? Is he both stupid and crazy?
    If so, does that mean he is totally unfixable?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 28 13:03:00 2023
    Hello Joe,

    New whistle blower today confirming the other one...

    Talk to The Hand.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 28 13:03:05 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Yeah, I was surprised he cast shade on whistleblowers, too.

    Talk to The Hand.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 28 13:03:11 2023
    Hello Mike,

    [..]

    There is no such document.

    Where is your proof? Link please.

    Talk to The Hand.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 28 07:28:14 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    WTF happened.... I thought you guys LOVED whistle-blowers...

    With the Ignorant Elitists, it's always "Rules for thee, but not for me."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 28 07:56:09 2023
    On 27 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Yeah, I was surprised he cast shade on whistleblowers, too.


    I was listening to views on this the other day, unlike the left I actually listen to opinions, Garland will either step down or Biden will throw him under the bus and can him before the impeachment process really gets started.

    I was watching the news this morning and all of this "malarkey" about who's telling the truth about the Hunter investigation may cast a shadow on the plea deal. Interesting.... Hunter may have to face the consequences for his behavior like all Crack Heads have to.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 28 08:02:24 2023
    On 27 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Brand new today!!!!


    I just more allegations Joe. A brand new allegation.


    No... I swear you don't watch the videos.... NOT NEW or MORE allegations but rather more support to the claims from the first whistleblower. Both people support each other's claims and both have brought receipts... supporting emails, meetings, paper trails and the like.

    Closing your eyes and covering your ears and going LA LA LA LA while evidence is piling up against a corrupt DOJ isn't going to make things go away.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Jun 28 09:56:09 2023
    On 28 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Tell us why he wants to expunge the TWO impeachments
    of Donald J. Trump. You do realize pretending impeachments
    never happened does not change the facts.


    Well the 2 impeachments were politically motivated, not because of wrong doings, per se. Lets tackle the first one... They went after Trump for Russia/Ukraine collusion scandal... There wasn't enough evidence to support the house claims for impeachment, senate's vote never met the 67 votes needed. Moreover, and more important, the Durham report showed that there was no collusion... The Muller report also said the same... for the most part... Er go... There was NO evidence of collusion so the first impeachment should not have been brought.

    The second impeachment... They say Trump incited an insurrection... and there wasn't enough evidence to support that as well... no 67 votes in the senate.
    What they did find was Trump saying that people should go to the Capital and protest "PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICALLY", there is the first amendment that covers this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9JRe91-1BE

    Just because there were some bad actors there... planted by the FBI and CIA.. and other stupid people who did not represent their cause correctly... Does not and did not make Trump and insighter of an insurrection....

    When things went south at the capital Trump did tell everyone to go home.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8kjR4nYzk

    The evidence that the January 6th comity is showing that they were biased. A new one should be be conducted without the bias...

    I personally think Trump should wear his impeachments like a badge of honor.... they were politically motivated and it helps him with his narrative... The Deep State are after the citizens and he's just standing in the way...

    The Democrats have lowered the threshold so much on impeachment their will be impeachments every other month now... what a shame


    While you are at it, tell us why he allowed the House to censor
    Adam Schiff, while refusing to call for the censure of George Santos -
    who has been charged with several criminal counts.


    There are some differences here... I think I made myself clear here... I wasn't up for the removal of Adam Shift, even though I thought he deserved it... for 2 reasons... 1 and it's the BIGGEST reason... it's not in the constitution and it's a bad president... kinda like lowering the standards for impeachment. 2, let the voters who vote these people in vote them out if they want. That's what a representative government looks like... The reason Representatives are voted in every 2 years is so that their constituents can hold them accountable and vote them out.

    So, Mr. Santos did not, at least so far, abused his position he was elected for. To my understanding, he lied and whatnot to get into his position.... Who knew politicians night lie to get into office... that's a new one. Whereas Adam Schiff misused his position and lied to the American public to further a political narrative that was a LIE.

    In both cases I felt that their constituents should vote them in or out. Maybe Mr. Santos will get voted out in 2024... maybe not. Maybe Mr. Schiff will get the senate seat he's looking for... maybe not... Let his constituents determine that.


    And yet he would allow his far-right colleagues to present articles
    of impeachment against Joe Biden - despite no evidence of wrongdoing.
    And while at it, attempt to hide the two impeachments of Donald Trump.
    As if they never happened at all.


    Excuse me sir... There is EVIDENCE for Biden's impeachment... I think Lauren Bobert was a little too premature in pushing the vote. Her angle on the impeachment was that Biden was failing to keep up his duties outlined in Article II of the constitution... Some of her focus is on the open boarder and other things. She claimed that Biden is not respecting the laws implemented by the legislators... I was listening Alan Dershowitz talk on Boberts impeachment theory... He said what Biden has done in this realm was not at the level of an impeachable offense.... BUT... the day I was hearing this the WhatsApp message came out.... and he said.... if this is provable... what was stated in the message... THATS impeachable.

    Kevin McCarthy said they are exploring this... Looking into finding more financial records and telephone records... to see if Joe's phone was pinging next to Hunter during the infamous WhatsApp message.

    There has been more WhatsApp messages revealed since. If there is evidence of these pay for play schemes then I think they should go for it.

    But since the Democrats completely trashed the true reason for impeachment I expect Impeachment to be brought on every president 3 or 4 times a year because their feelings are hurt.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Jun 28 10:04:20 2023
    On 28 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    The investigation is over. All they could come up with was two
    misdemeanor tax charges, and one charge of illegal gun possession
    - that will be expunged from his record.


    I'm almost certain you don't watch the news... Because of all these things going on about Hunter... The judge sitting over Hunter's case has put his decision to formalize/finalize Hunter's plea deal... BECAUSE there is evidence that the DOJ was interfering in the case. Hunter may have to, at some point, face the music like any of us would have to.


    Big fucking deal. Hillary Clinton is the most investigated woman
    in America, and Hunter Biden will become the most investigated man
    in America. With neither one of them being put in jail for a damn
    thing.


    Doesn't make things right... because she's connected with the elites she skates...

    Meanwhile, your boy George Santos, who has been indicted on several criminal counts, continues on as a full-fledged member of Congress,
    never being censored for anything under Speaker McCarthy's universe.

    What did Mr. Santos do, after he was sworn into office, that I'm unaware of... ??

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 28 10:05:28 2023
    On 28 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    With the Ignorant Elitists, it's always "Rules for thee, but not for me."


    I just spent a portion of my morning responding to this mindset

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 28 12:46:12 2023
    I just more allegations Joe. A brand new allegation.

    No... I swear you don't watch the videos....

    I do watch many video's, even video's you link.

    NOT NEW or MORE allegations but rather more support to the claims from the first whistleblower. Both people support each other's claims and both have brought receipts... supporting emails, meetings, paper trails and the like.

    This has been allegations from the start.

    Closing your eyes and covering your ears and going LA LA LA LA while evidence is piling up against a corrupt DOJ isn't going to make things go away.

    I am not closing my eyes. There simply is no evidence, Joe. None.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wed Jun 28 15:35:00 2023
    There is no such document.

    Where is your proof? Link please.

    There are no links to documents that don't exist.

    But you are trying to prove it *doesn't* exist. Most of us are smart enough not to just take your word for it.

    Joe already provided a link that discusses its existence. I am asking you
    to prove it does not exist. Otherwise, you words are one of those "big nothingburgers" you like to talk about so much.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wed Jun 28 15:49:00 2023
    This has been allegations from the start.

    All things not yet proven are allegations. That is what these hearings are for.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 28 14:23:36 2023
    There are no links to documents that don't exist.

    But you are trying to prove it *doesn't* exist. Most of us are smart enough not to just take your word for it.

    No, I am saying there is no evidence of a crime.

    Joe already provided a link that discusses its existence. I am asking you
    to prove it does not exist. Otherwise, you words are one of those "big nothingburgers" you like to talk about so much.

    Joe's link was just allegations, no evidence of anything.

    This is just another nothingburger.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 28 14:26:04 2023
    This has been allegations from the start.

    All things not yet proven are allegations. That is what these hearings are for.

    Yes, when there is some proof of a crime we can start talking crime.

    This is proof of something, but it is not a crime.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 28 19:45:54 2023
    On 28 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    This has been allegations from the start.


    I understand these are allegations and the facts that support these
    allegations should see their day in court... and I hope it heads that way.


    I am not closing my eyes. There simply is no evidence, Joe. None.


    They have emails and witness to corroborating testimony... it's not looking good

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ib Joe on Thu Jun 29 00:21:00 2023
    On 06-28-23 09:56, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    Well the 2 impeachments were politically motivated, not because of
    wrong doings, per se. Lets tackle the first one... They went
    after Trump for Russia/Ukraine collusion scandal... There
    wasn't enough evidence to support the house claims for
    impeachment, senate's vote never met the 67 votes needed.
    Moreover, and more important, the Durham report showed that
    there was no collusion... The Muller report also said the
    same... for the most part... Er go... There was NO
    evidence of collusion so the first impeachment should not
    have been brought.

    You are totally wrong about what that first impeachment was all about.
    It had nothing to do with Russia. It had to do with Trump blackmailing
    the Ukraine President to force him to produce dirt on Biden, or else
    Trump would not release the military aid that congress had approved.

    The second impeachment... They say Trump incited an
    insurrection... and there wasn't enough evidence to support
    that as well... no 67 votes in the senate.

    It was well known that there would never be 67 votes in the Senate now
    that most Senators are voting on strict party lines instead of voting
    their conscience. Even so, there were a moderate number of Republican
    Senators who did vote for impeachment.

    Just because there were some bad actors there... planted by
    the FBI and CIA.. and other stupid people who did not
    represent their cause correctly... Does not and did not
    make Trump and insighter of an insurrection....

    I have seen no evidence of plants by FBI or CIA. Have you?

    When things went south at the capital Trump did tell everyone to go
    home.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8kjR4nYzk

    After watching the riots with glee for three+ hours.

    of an impeachable offense.... BUT... the day I was hearing
    this the WhatsApp message came out.... and he said.... if
    this is provable... what was stated in the message... THATS
    impeachable.

    A. what is WhatsApp? B. what was in that message?

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Steve Wolf@1:227/702 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jun 29 08:30:52 2023
    After watching the riots with glee for three+ hours.

    It was pretty cool wasn't it. ??

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 29 09:04:59 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    On 28 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    With the Ignorant Elitists, it's always "Rules for thee, but not for me."

    I just spent a portion of my morning responding to this mindset

    Which is why I don't bother responding to the Ignorant Elitists anymore.

    It's just a waste of time and energy.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jun 29 08:57:12 2023
    On 29 Jun 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...


    You are totally wrong about what that first impeachment was all about.
    It had nothing to do with Russia. It had to do with Trump blackmailing the Ukraine President to force him to produce dirt on Biden, or else
    Trump would not release the military aid that congress had approved.


    He released the aide in time, as per the legislators agreement. Trump had a few questions before it was released.... AND MAN-O-MAN how is that turning out. Looks like the Biden crime family is embroiled in a corruption scheme withe the same leader. Is the Big Guy getting 10% of all the current "aide"?


    It was well known that there would never be 67 votes in the Senate now that most Senators are voting on strict party lines instead of voting their conscience. Even so, there were a moderate number of Republican Senators who did vote for impeachment.


    Impeachment is important process. DON'T FUCK WITH IT!!! Impeachment is a process used to remove someone from office so that they may face allegations as described in the constitution.

    Trump was out of office on January 6th and could face whatever charges that were alleged. There was no need to impeach... BUT WAIT... there might have been. The democrats didn't want to face him again in 2024 so they went ahead with the impeachment... even though it was unconstitutional.

    The GOP want to expunge his second impeachment based on this fact. Trump doesn't care ab out the impeachments. He wears them like a badge of honor... Every rally he has... every email I get for campaign contributions he states that the government is after me.... but he's in the way...

    The only problem I have/had with the shame impeachments is that the bar was lowered to cover political issues now.

    The house voted to impeach Joe Biden over the way he's running the open boarder, plus a few other things. I was not thrilled that Lauren Bobert started the vote... I think it should be a higher threshold... BUT it looks like Kevin McCarthy is gathering evidence on the bribery side of things... Looking into things he did when he was VP, dovetailing all that with the current DOJ corruption....

    Now that is a high crime and misdemeanor... get your popcorn


    I have seen no evidence of plants by FBI or CIA. Have you?


    There is lots of evidence .... You're too busy closing your eyes, plugging
    your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA. Congress has setup a comity to look into the weaponization of government agencies... FBI is front and center.


    A. what is WhatsApp? B. what was in that message?


    https://web.whatsapp.com/

    What's app is a way to talk person-to-person directly through encryption... Microsoft owns said company.

    Part of Message #1 https://twitter.com/RepTenney/status/1672271623200837632/photo/1

    They are trying to put together physical evidence of where Joe was during
    that call...

    Message #2
    https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1674154541690830850/photo/1

    Same shit different day

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 29 08:58:34 2023
    On 29 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Which is why I don't bother responding to the Ignorant Elitists anymore.

    It's just a waste of time and energy.


    It was after my poop... and during my first coffee.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thu Jun 29 15:35:00 2023
    There are no links to documents that don't exist.

    But you are trying to prove it *doesn't* exist. Most of us are smart
    nough
    not to just take your word for it.

    No, I am saying there is no evidence of a crime.

    | > They have documents proving that Garland may have lied under oath to
    | > congress. What the GOP is DOING is that they are subpoenaing 6 people
    | > related to the evidence. Someone is lying... and if the facts bare out and | > they can prove Garland lied... he should be impeached...
    |
    | There is no such document.
    +-[AI=>IJ]

    "There is no such document" is exactly what you said.

    So prove there is no document, or prove that the document contains no
    evidence.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Thu Jun 29 15:39:00 2023
    of an impeachable offense.... BUT... the day I was hearing
    this the WhatsApp message came out.... and he said.... if
    this is provable... what was stated in the message... THATS
    impeachable.

    A. what is WhatsApp? B. what was in that message?

    A phone application that some people use to send texts because it is
    supposedly more secure than sending the same text via the default texting application that comes with the phone.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 29 15:01:08 2023
    He released the aide in time, as per the legislators agreement. Trump had a few questions before it was released.... AND MAN-O-MAN how is that turning out.

    Questions? No, Donald Trump wanted dirt on Biden.

    Looks like the Biden crime family is embroiled in a corruption scheme
    with the the same leader. Is the Big Guy getting 10% of all the current "aide"?

    It's more dirt on Biden, without evidence.

    Impeachment is important process. DON'T FUCK WITH IT!!! Impeachment is a process used to remove someone from office so that they may face allegations a described in the constitution.

    It is important and the republican party should have taken it seriously.

    The GOP want to expunge his second impeachment based on this fact. Trump doesn't care ab out the impeachments. He wears them like a badge of honor... Every rally he has... every email I get for campaign contributions he states that the government is after me.... but he's in the way...

    There is no such thing as expunging an impeachment, not in reality.

    The only problem I have/had with the shame impeachments is that the bar was lowered to cover political issues now.

    There is lots of evidence .... You're too busy closing your eyes, plugging your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA. Congress has setup a comity to look into the weaponization of government agencies... FBI is front and center.

    This is congress weaponizing government.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Thu Jun 29 15:04:14 2023
    | There is no such document.

    "There is no such document" is exactly what you said.

    So prove there is no document, or prove that the document contains no evidence.

    There are many documents. Read and enjoy.

    There is no proof of the "Biden Crime Family" that is so popular today in right wing circles.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 30 12:24:40 2023
    Hello Mike,

    There is no such document.

    Where is your proof? Link please.

    There are no links to documents that don't exist.

    But you are trying to prove it *doesn't* exist. Most of us are smart enough
    not to just take your word for it.

    The burden of proof is on *you* as it was your claim.

    Your inability to do so has been duly noted.

    Joe already provided a link that discusses its existence.

    Hearsay is not evidence. Please try again.

    I am asking you to prove it does not exist.

    Put up or shut up.

    Otherwise, you words are one of those "big nothingburgers" you like to talk
    about so much.

    Talk to The Hand.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 30 12:24:53 2023
    Hello Mike,

    This has been allegations from the start.

    All things not yet proven are allegations. That is what these hearings are
    for.

    Eat your spinach, Bluto.

    --Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jun 30 10:16:15 2023
    On 29 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Questions? No, Donald Trump wanted dirt on Biden.


    There seems to be a lot of dirt on the Biden crime family. Could you imagine if Don Jr. was a crackhead and left a laptop full of the same garbage Hunter's laptop had?? Could you also imagine if Ivanka left a diary at a rehab clinic talking about how her father use to shower with her, inappropriately I might add, and how that contributed to her over sexualized youth. Could you imagine if Trump setup shell companies to receive 10's of millions of dollars from American adversaries, distribute that amongst his family member, including grandchildren.... If this was the case he'd be in jail right now... as he should be...

    The US justice system is corrupt...


    It's more dirt on Biden, without evidence.


    There is evidence, every time someone says/shows you evidence you start with the closing of your eyes... plugging your ears and doing the LA LA LA thing.

    If what they say is NOT true why not release all the documents and go to a court so the American people can see the evidence.

    The committees looking into this said TODAY.... they are --><-- this close in determining if AG Garland had lied, recall last week 6 subpoenas were sent out. 1 of those 6 are lying...They say things don't look good for the AG.

    BTW, I don't think he'll be impeached but rather he'll step down or someone in the Deep State will get Biden to fire him.


    It is important and the republican party should have taken it seriously.


    It was the Democrats who have misused the Impeachment process... Though an impeachment was voted on... notice how they are not rushing things... they are making sure there is the evidence to support their claims.


    There is no such thing as expunging an impeachment, not in reality.


    Let them vote on it... and see what the courts say... Trump doesn't seem to mind and public sees it for what it is... political.


    This is congress weaponizing government.


    You should read the constitution.... I'll help you... Article I, Section 8, Clause 18

    Here's an article from the Constitutional Accountability Center talking about this issuer... Congressional Oversight Is Not Presidential Harassment

    https://www.theusconstitution.org/blog/congressional-oversight-is-not-president ial-harassment/

    It is what congress has been doing since the constitution gave them that right.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 30 18:45:32 2023
    Questions? No, Donald Trump wanted dirt on Biden.

    There seems to be a lot of dirt on the Biden crime family.

    I know you can imagine that.

    Could you imagine if Don Jr. was a crackhead and left a laptop full of the same garbage Hunter's laptop had??

    We don't need Jr's laptop to know what a dirtbag he is.

    Could you also imagine if Ivanka left a diary at a rehab clinic
    talking about how her father use to shower with her, inappropriately I might add, and how that contributed to her over sexualized youth.

    You are going to give Ivanka a bad name.

    Could you imagine if Trump setup shell companies to receive 10's of millions of dollars from American adversaries, distribute that amongst his family member, including grandchildren.... If this was the case he'd be in jail right now... as he should be...

    I don't have to imagine that Joe, have you not been paying attention?

    The US justice system is corrupt...

    That's a little silly, Joe.

    It's more dirt on Biden, without evidence.

    There is evidence, every time someone says/shows you evidence you start with the closing of your eyes... plugging your ears and doing the LA LA LA thing.

    I don't pay attention to all the talk. I follow the facts. My eyes are open.

    If what they say is NOT true why not release all the documents and go to a court so the American people can see the evidence.

    There are no documents to release.

    The committees looking into this said TODAY.... they are --><-- this close in determining if AG Garland had lied, recall last week 6 subpoenas were sent out 1 of those 6 are lying...They say things don't look good for the AG.

    The MAGA GOP comittee's are full of liars. It's corrupt. It's weaponization of government.

    BTW, I don't think he'll be impeached but rather he'll step down or someone in the Deep State will get Biden to fire him.

    Neither of those things is going to happen.

    It is important and the republican party should have taken it seriously.

    It was the Democrats who have misused the Impeachment process... Though an impeachment was voted on... notice how they are not rushing things... they are making sure there is the evidence to support their claims.

    The democrats impeached Trump for good reason. The republican didn't even hold a hearing.

    Law & Order is not a thing with the republica party.

    There is no such thing as expunging an impeachment, not in reality.

    Let them vote on it... and see what the courts say... Trump doesn't seem to mind and public sees it for what it is... political.

    It just more talk.

    This is congress weaponizing government.

    You should read the constitution.... I'll help you... Article I, Section 8, Clause 18

    I realize that. Nevertheless, this is congress weaponizing government.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 1 04:11:36 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Tell us why he wants to expunge the TWO impeachments
    of Donald J. Trump. You do realize pretending impeachments
    never happened does not change the facts.

    Well the 2 impeachments were politically motivated,

    Trump was successfully impeached. Twice. In the same term.
    The crimes committed were outlined in the articles of impeachment.
    Trial was held in the Senate on each impeachment.

    not because of wrong doings, per se.

    According to the House all counts were acts of wrong doing,
    as outlined in the US Constitution.

    Lets tackle the first one... They went after Trump for Russia/Ukraine collusion scandal... There wasn't enough evidence to support the house claims for impeachment, senate's vote never met the 67 votes needed. Moreover, and more important, the Durham report showed that there was no collusion... The Muller report also said the same... for the most part... Er go... There was NO evidence of collusion so the first impeachment should
    not have been brought.

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump. Convicted. And
    then later pardoned by Trump (as president). That is all the evidence
    needed to show collusion.

    After the House impeached Trump, the Senate held trial. The bogus
    claim of 67 votes needed for removal from office is easy to refute,
    as the US Constitution says two thirds of those voting (present).
    Which could be any number of Senators, even a majority being absent.

    The second impeachment... They say Trump incited an insurrection... and there wasn't enough evidence to support that as well... no 67 votes in the senate.
    What they did find was Trump saying that people should go to the Capital and
    protest "PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICALLY", there is the first amendment that covers this...

    The prosecution made its case in the Senate, the defense never
    bothered to a rebuttal or response of any kind. Every Senator knew
    Trump was guilty of sin, and nobody wanted to embarrass themselves
    publicly by claiming otherwise.

    Just because there were some bad actors there...

    Several are spending their days in prison these days ...

    planted by the FBI and CIA..

    Spies? Recruited by the FBI and CIA? In our prisons? Wow!

    and other stupid people who did not represent their cause correctly...

    How, pray tell, does one go about to represent their cause correctly?

    Does not and did not make Trump and insighter of an insurrection....

    Egging an angry mob onward to hang Mike Pence and assassinate
    Nancy Pelosi is a criminal act. Some would call it sedition.

    When things went south at the capital Trump did tell everyone to go home.

    After inciting them to do so, and waiting hours before calling
    it a day, is not an act any president should be proud of. When a
    president does it on purpose it is an insanely evil act ...

    The evidence that the January 6th comity is showing that they were biased. A new one should be be conducted without the bias...

    All insurrections are biased, whether armed or unarmed. And almost
    all are violent. Very violent. Those who instigate such acts know
    this. Which is why they do what they do. It is what they want, and
    their dream come true when their followers do as they are told.

    I personally think Trump should wear his impeachments like a badge of honor....

    Speaker McCarthy wants to expunge both of Trump's impeachments from
    the record. That makes you an enemy of the state. And you know what
    that means.

    MAGA nutjobs will have you lined up in front of a MAGA firing squad
    and have you shot. And to tell you I feel sorry for you would be an understatement. I mean, those MAGA nerf balls can hurt.

    they were politically motivated and it helps him with his narrative...

    Once upon a time Trump thought of running as a Democrat.
    But there weren't enough Republicans around in those days
    who would impeach him. So he chose to run as a Republican
    instead. Thus giving Democrats the pleasure of creating
    another Nixon - one for the 21st century.

    Now if only Republicans can find another George McGovern ...

    The Deep State are after the citizens and he's just standing in the way...

    Well, now that the Chinese have destroyed the original covid-19
    samples ...

    The Democrats have lowered the threshold so much on impeachment their will be impeachments every other month now... what a shame

    First expunge both impeachments of Donald Trump.
    Never mind about the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
    Then go ahead and impeach Joe Biden.
    If you can't think of anything to impeach him on,
    blame it on the border and Mexico.

    While you are at it, tell us why he allowed the House to censor
    Adam Schiff, while refusing to call for the censure of George Santos -
    who has been charged with several criminal counts.

    There are some differences here...

    George Santos has been indicted on several criminal counts.
    He plead "not guilty" to 13 of those counts this morning.
    Although he should be expelled from the House, he has not
    even been censured for his actions.

    Adam Schiff has not been indicted or charged with any crime(s).
    Although he has been censured by the House, nobody seems to even
    have a clue as to why.

    I think I made myself clear here...

    I wasn't up for the removal of Adam Shift, even though I thought he deserved
    it...

    for 2 reasons...

    1 and it's the BIGGEST reason...

    it's not in the constitution and it's a bad president...

    It's a House rule. The Speaker can change it if he wants.
    But it is still a rule, as it stands today.

    No member of the House can be a president - good or bad.
    Even though the Speaker might be forced into it due to some
    tragedy or health issue.

    kinda like lowering the standards for impeachment.

    The standards are whatever standards the members of the House
    want to make them out to be.

    2, let the voters who vote these people in vote them out if they want.

    The members of the House have that same right. In the case
    of George Santos, it is their duty and obligation. But Republican
    members do not want to do so. Why not? Because Speaker McCarthy
    needs his (Santos) vote. Otherwise, his goose is cooked and a
    new speaker gets elected.

    That's what a representative government looks like...

    That's what a Speaker who has lost control of his own party looks like.

    The reason Representatives are voted in every 2 years is so that their constituents can hold them accountable and vote them out.

    Members of a party can (and should) also hold members of their own
    party accountable for their actions.

    So, Mr. Santos did not, at least so far, abused his position he was elected
    for.

    He lied (about everything) to get himself elected. He also broke
    the law, having been charged with having committed sevaral criminal
    acts. Although he should have been expelled from the House, he was
    not even censured. Even though his own party knew full well what he
    had done.

    To my understanding, he lied and whatnot to get into his position....

    Amnng other things.

    Who knew politicians night lie to get into office... that's a new one.

    Nothing new about it at all. Santos knew he was lying. Voters did
    not know at the time he was lying, but only found out after the
    election. And after he was caught out, and reported by the news
    media, Santos refused to resign. Basically sticking his middle
    finger to his constituents, the Speaker, and to the world.

    And so what does Speaker McCarthy do? He bows down and kisses
    George Santos' arse.

    Whereas Adam Schiff misused his position and lied to the American public to
    further a political narrative that was a LIE.

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump, was convicted.
    He was later pardoned by Trump (as president). That is the truth,
    whether you and others want to admit it, or not.

    What that means is for the first time in the history of the USA,
    a member of the US House of Representatives was censured for telling
    the truth.

    Amazing.

    Rep. Adam Schiff will be elected US Senator in a landslide in 2024.

    Rep. George Santos will be tossed out of Congress in 2024.

    And all of America will celebrate when Joe Biden wins his 2nd term.

    In both cases I felt that their constituents should vote them in or out.

    Why should constituents be forced to have someone who lied his
    way to office, and may be a criminal? It is not just hearsay that
    George Santos lied about his accomplishments or education. That
    is known fact, shown by real evidence presented by news media.
    Speaker McCarthy should know better. And I'm sure he does. But
    he has no control over his own party, and needs Santos' vote
    in order to remain Speaker.

    Maybe Mr. Santos will get voted out in 2024... maybe not.

    Maybe Santos will be found "guilty" and be sentenced to prison
    before the next election. Of course, Speaker McCarthy can pull the
    plug on Santos being a member of the House anytime he wants ...

    Maybe Mr. Schiff will get the senate seat he's looking for...

    There is a good chance of that happening.

    maybe not...

    Well, it is an open seat now that Feinstein has decided not to run
    for a 95th term ...

    Let his constituents determine that.

    I am sure Schiff's consitutuents would love to vote for him
    for another term in the House. But he is now giving all Californians
    the chance to vote for him. And that is putting the heat on Gavin
    Newsom to win the presidency. Before Schiff takes his place in the
    governor's mansion ...

    And yet he would allow his far-right colleagues to present articles
    of impeachment against Joe Biden - despite no evidence of wrongdoing.
    And while at it, attempt to hide the two impeachments of Donald Trump.
    As if they never happened at all.

    Excuse me sir... There is EVIDENCE for Biden's impeachment...

    None that I could find.
    None that anybody else could find, either.

    I think Lauren Bobert was a little too premature in pushing the vote.

    Her complaint was sent to a committee. And then, when all members
    of the committee are on board, they can all make the same complaint
    together. As a team. Even if it makes no sense at all.

    Her angle on the impeachment was that Biden was failing to keep up his duties outined in Article II of the constitution... Some of her focus is on the open boarder and other things.

    Basically on whatever floats her boat.

    She claimed that Biden is not respecting the laws implemented by the legislators...

    The president enforces the laws. Which laws the president chooses
    to enforce is up to him. Or her, as the case may be.

    The legislative branch merely writes the laws ...

    I was listening Alan Dershowitz talk on Boberts impeachment theory...

    The House can impeach the president on whatever charges it wants.
    What are "high crimes and misdemeanors"? Whatever the House claims
    them to be.

    He said what Biden has done in this realm was not at the level of an impeachable offense....

    Dershowitz is not, and never has been, a member of Congress.
    So what the hell does he know?

    BUT...

    But what?

    the day I was hearing this the WhatsApp message came out....

    What difference does it make what day you heard his message?

    and he said....

    I'm sure he said a lot of things.

    if this is provable...

    I am sure one can find a transcript if one so desires.

    what was stated in the message... THATS impeachable.

    Anything is impeachable. If the House says it is.
    That is the bottom line.

    President Gerald Ford explained it all to us, so many years ago.
    Not really sure how many of us listened, or understood what he said.
    But he was right.

    "Crimes and misdemeanors" are exactly what the Congress says it is.
    In particular, the House of Representaves, in regards to impeachment.

    Kevin McCarthy said they are exploring this...

    There is nothing to explore. It has already been done for us.

    Looking into finding more financial records and telephone records...

    We've been through Watergate. We all know Richard Nixon was guilty.

    to see if Joe's phone was pinging next to Hunter during the infamous WhatsApp message.

    Keep looking. And when you find the recording, put it on social
    media for all to hear or listen to.

    There has been more WhatsApp messages revealed since. If there is evidence
    of these pay for play schemes then I think they should go for it.

    Hearsay is not evidence.

    Put it on social media (twitter, facebook, etc).
    Would be a real laugh riot.

    But since the Democrats completely trashed the true reason for impeachment I
    expect Impeachment to be brought on every president 3 or 4 times a year because their feelings are hurt.

    Just a different flavor of the month. What a bore. Gonna have
    to do something truly original to grab folks' attention these
    days. Old tricks are passé.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 1 04:11:44 2023
    Hello Joe,

    The investigation is over. All they could come up with was two
    misdemeanor tax charges, and one charge of illegal gun possession
    - that will be expunged from his record.

    I'm almost certain you don't watch the news...

    To be honest, I really don't give a hoot how much he has to pay
    in child support for his illegitimate kid(s). Whatever the amount,
    he can afford it. And the kid(s) deserve it.

    Because of all these things going on about Hunter...

    What does it matter to you? Or to anybody else? Hunter's sex life
    is his own. He is a big boy, presumably capable of making decisions
    for his own self. And he is making progress recovering from drugs
    and alcohol. So do give him some credit.

    The judge sitting over Hunter's case has put his decision to formalize/finalize Hunter's plea deal...

    As was appropriate in said case.

    BECAUSE there is evidence that the DOJ was interfering in the case.

    Hearsay is not evidence. Especially allegations that have no basis
    in fact.

    Hunter may have to, at some point, face the music like any of us would have
    to.

    He did, and is now paying the price for his actions.
    Time for Donald Trump to follow Hunter's fine example.

    Big fucking deal. Hillary Clinton is the most investigated woman
    in America, and Hunter Biden will become the most investigated man
    in America. With neither one of them being put in jail for a damn
    thing.

    Doesn't make things right... because she's connected with the elites she skates...

    What crime(s) has she committed? Hell, she hasn't even been charged
    with so much as a misdemeanor, much less a crime. And yet, your pals
    on the lunatic right want to "Lock her up" the same as Hunter Biden.

    Meanwhile, your boy George Santos, who has been indicted on several
    criminal counts, continues on as a full-fledged member of Congress,
    never being censored for anything under Speaker McCarthy's universe.

    What did Mr. Santos do, after he was sworn into office, that I'm unaware of... ??

    He plead "not guilty" to 13 criminal counts this morning.
    I'll spare you the details.

    For Life,
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Steve Wolf on Fri Jun 30 01:37:02 2023
    On 06-29-23 08:30, Steve Wolf <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump impeachment <=-


    After watching the riots with glee for three+ hours.

    It was pretty cool wasn't it. ??

    Cool is not a word I would have used. Horrifying is closer.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ib Joe on Fri Jun 30 01:41:04 2023
    On 06-29-23 08:57, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump impeachment <=-

    Trump was out of office on January 6th and could face
    whatever charges that were alleged. There was no need to
    impeach... BUT WAIT... there might have been. The
    democrats didn't want to face him again in 2024 so they
    went ahead with the impeachment... even though it was
    unconstitutional.

    Trump was not yet out of office until January 20th. They came closer to getting a positive vote than on the first impeachment -- which would
    have barred him from holding any federal office in the future.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 30 01:46:06 2023
    On 06-29-23 15:39, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Trump impeachment <=-

    A. what is WhatsApp? B. what was in that message?

    A phone application that some people use to send texts because it is supposedly more secure than sending the same text via the default
    texting application that comes with the phone.

    Thanks for that info. Now, does anyone know what was in the message
    referred to?

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Jul 1 09:29:00 2023
    A phone application that some people use to send texts because it is supposedly more secure than sending the same text via the default texting application that comes with the phone.

    Thanks for that info. Now, does anyone know what was in the message
    referred to?

    I posted a couple of links here to stories about it. Here they are.

    | Hunter Biden used father's name to pressurise Chinese businessman,
    | whistleblower claims
    |
    | SOURCE: The Telegraph
    |
    |
    ttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/23/hunter-biden-attends-white-h
    | ouse-state-dinner-plea-deal/
    |
    | https://tinyurl.com/e5hxeewj
    |
    | "Alleged WhatsApp messages provide clearest indication of US president's son | leveraging Joe Biden's role in government in personal affairs.
    |
    | "Hunter Biden said he was sitting 'with my father' as he pressured a Chinese | businessman over a proposed energy deal, according to an IRS whistleblower.
    |
    | "While negotiating a six-figure business deal with Henry Zhao in 2017, the US | president's son reportedly sent a WhatsApp message to Mr Zhao.
    |
    | "'I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the
    | commitment made has not been fulfilled,' the younger Mr Biden told Mr Zhao,
    h
    | director of Harvest Fund Management.
    |
    | "'And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than
    ou,
    | Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next | to
    | me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you | will regret not following my direction.'"
    |
    |
    | This article refers to the messages as "alleged." Since this story was
    | printed,
    | Hunter's attorney has issued a statement. That statement does not claim that | the messages are not authentic, but rather that they were disclosed illegally | and that the messages are the words of "an addict."

    Note the last paragraph. Hunter's attorney does not deny their existence.

    We don't know that dad was there for sure.

    | "The Biden's are the best" -- Another Hunter Biden text shocker uncovered
    |
    | SOURCE: MSN
    |
    |
    ttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-bidens-are-the-best-another-hunter
    |
    | -biden-text-shocker-uncovered/ar-AA1da8IS
    |
    | https://tinyurl.com/yytvy4xb
    |
    | "According to the (House Oversight) committee, on August 3, 2017, Hunter
    iden
    | sent a text message to Gongwen Dong, an executive at CEFC, an energy firm
    ith
    | ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
    |
    | "In the message, Biden proclaimed, "The Biden's are the best I know at doing | exactly what the Chairman wants from this [partnership]."
    |
    | "Interestingly, the committee also discovered that one of Biden's shell
    | companies received a payment of $100,000 from CEFC the following day."

    He again credits multiple Bidens and not just himself.

    There may be others that have surfaced by now.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 1 18:02:06 2023
    Hello Joe,

    [..]

    Impeachment is important process. DON'T FUCK WITH IT!!!

    Speaker McCarthy wants to ignore it. Expunge all of Trump's
    impeachments. As if they never happened.

    But leave Bill Clinton's impeachment in place.

    And allow for the House to impeach Joe Biden.

    What a dick. Has no control of his own party.

    Impeachment is a process used to remove someone from office so that they may
    face allegations as described in the constitution.

    Impeachment is merely the filing of charges against a sitting
    president by the House. Trial is held by the Senate, not the House.

    Trump was out of office on January 6th and could face whatever charges that
    were alleged.

    I hate to bust your bubble but Trump remained in office until
    noon on January 20th. When Joe Biden was sworn into office by
    Chief Justice John Roberts, Donald Trump was returned to his
    previous status of private citizen.

    There was no need to impeach...

    He could have, and should have, done like Nixon, resigning in disgrace.
    But no. He chose to be impeached. For a second time. With his own party
    failing to put on any kind of defense during the trial in the Senate.

    Nixon was the better man.

    [..]

    The GOP want to expunge his second impeachment based on this fact.

    Speaker McCarthy claimed he wants to expunge both Trump impeachments,
    which is his own opinion that may or may not be shared with others.
    This would be an absurditidy in and of itself, as well as a first in
    the history of Congress. But no matter. Impeachments are forever, and
    can never be erased from history books.

    Trump doesn't care ab out the impeachments. He wears them like a badge of honor...

    Then why does Speaker McCarthy want to expunge both of Trump's
    impeachments? If Trump did not care, neither would Speaker McCarthy.

    Every rally he has... every email I get for campaign contributions he states
    that the government is after me.... but he's in the way...

    Once upon a time, Trump himself claimed he would fund his own
    campaign. Whatever happened to that campaign promise? Oh, that
    was just another of his many lies, so many that not even those
    leftist newspapers could keep up with ...

    The only problem I have/had with the shame impeachments is that the bar was
    lowered to cover political issues now.

    Trump was impeached, twice, for real crimes. Republicans in the
    House want to impeach our current president for keeping his oath
    of office.

    The house voted to impeach Joe Biden over the way he's running the open boarder, plus a few other things.

    Put Up or Shut Up -

    Please show me the articles of impeachment passed by the House.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 1 11:06:43 2023
    On 01 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Trump was successfully impeached. Twice. In the same term.
    The crimes committed were outlined in the articles of impeachment.
    Trial was held in the Senate on each impeachment.


    Hen was impeached twice... I understand that... twice... House voted for it and all it takes is a simple majority to do so...

    Senate had a trial... twice, once for each impeachment.... and Twice the senate cleared him on all the allegations twice.


    According to the House all counts were acts of wrong doing,
    as outlined in the US Constitution.


    House can say whatever... the reason there is a trial is so the house can prove those allegations... and they weren't proven and he was cleared twice by the senate.


    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump. Convicted. And
    then later pardoned by Trump (as president). That is all the evidence needed to show collusion.


    Paul Manaford found guilty on charges Hunter should be charged for and isn't, so far. Paul Manaford was targeted for political reason and was pardoned because of the that. Presidents can pardon... that's what they do


    After the House impeached Trump, the Senate held trial. The bogus
    claim of 67 votes needed for removal from office is easy to refute,
    as the US Constitution says two thirds of those voting (present).
    Which could be any number of Senators, even a majority being absent.


    That's not true... By LAW all have to be present for the trial and vote...


    The prosecution made its case in the Senate, the defense never
    bothered to a rebuttal or response of any kind. Every Senator knew
    Trump was guilty of sin, and nobody wanted to embarrass themselves publicly by claiming otherwise.


    If the case was made they would have voted that way... but it wasn't and he was cleared.


    How, pray tell, does one go about to represent their cause correctly?


    Read the first amendment...


    Egging an angry mob onward to hang Mike Pence and assassinate
    Nancy Pelosi is a criminal act. Some would call it sedition.


    The only one egging people on was Ray Epp, a government plant.


    Speaker McCarthy wants to expunge both of Trump's impeachments from
    the record. That makes you an enemy of the state. And you know what
    that means.


    It has been shown that the 1st impeachment was political, and unconstitutional... Where as the second was the same... This one was/is seen as unconstitutional because... you don't impeach someone who is already out of office... you impeach someone to remove them from office.

    Let McCarthy and the house vote... make public why they believe what they believe and let public sour this out...

    BTW, you keep saying that Trump was impeached.... Had Trump actually been impeached he wouldn't be able to run in 2024... or even 2020 for that matter.

    House voted to impeach... Senate cleared him of all wrong doing...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 1 11:24:56 2023
    On 01 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Maybe Santos will be found "guilty" and be sentenced to prison
    before the next election. Of course, Speaker McCarthy can pull the
    plug on Santos being a member of the House anytime he wants ...


    What you just said here is NOT true... McCarthy cannot, and should not, remove someone from the house. One... it's not in the constitution... please help me here and quote the section of the constitution that allows him to do so... Adam Schiff is someone that deserved to be removed because he abused his office while he was elected... He wasn't and should not have been because of this... and it's a big one!!!!! As a representative government people voted that person to represent them.... and it's not up to Kevin McCarthy to over-rule that.

    So Mr. Santos may have to go to trial, for whatever lies he committed and if he is found guilty he can pay whatever fine... or whatever and he can still run and get re-elected.

    I think if you hold all politicians to this "Santos" standard about 85% will have to step-down

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 1 11:33:00 2023
    On 01 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    What did Mr. Santos do, after he was sworn into office, that I'm unaw of... ??

    He plead "not guilty" to 13 criminal counts this morning.
    I'll spare you the details.


    In America you have a trial where the allegations have to be proven... In America you are INNOCENT until proven otherwise in court.

    BTW, I just looked... actually just looked at the constitution and there is not clause about having to step down if you lied of had criminal allegations levied against you.

    BTW, again... Trump may get re-elected in 2024 and have an ankle monitor on... maybe even have to see his probation officer once a week.... BECAUSE there is NO clause stopping ANY person running for and winning... that has a criminal past. The constitution says that people who ware impeached cannot run for office though....

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 1 11:35:18 2023
    On 30 Jun 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...


    Trump was not yet out of office until January 20th. They came closer to getting a positive vote than on the first impeachment -- which would
    have barred him from holding any federal office in the future.


    This is true... Close only counts in Hand-grenades and not impeachments. The magic number is 67, not 66 or lower.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 2 10:20:07 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Trump was successfully impeached. Twice. In the same term.
    The crimes committed were outlined in the articles of impeachment.
    Trial was held in the Senate on each impeachment.

    Hen was impeached twice... I understand that... twice... House voted for it
    and all it takes is a simple majority to do so...

    Bill Clinton was also impeached. Once.
    As was Andrew Johnson. Once.

    Senate had a trial... twice, once for each impeachment....

    The only POTUS ever to be put to trial twice. And in one term.
    All in due accordance with the US Constitution.

    and Twice the senate cleared him on all the allegations twice.

    Acquitted, not exonerated.

    According to the House all counts were acts of wrong doing,
    as outlined in the US Constitution.

    House can say whatever...

    No shit, Sherlock. House Rules. That is how the game is played.

    the reason there is a trial is so the house can prove those allegations...

    The House doesn't have to prove shit. All it has to do is make
    allegations. Point fingers and accuse. If a majority vote "Yes"
    the article is passed. Until all articles have been voted on.

    and they weren't proven and he was cleared twice by the senate.

    Nothing has to be proven. Trial is held by the Senate. If two
    thirds present vote to remove the president from office, it is
    done. That is the only question at issue.

    Trump was acquitted. Not exonerated. Acquitted meaning not removed
    from office. Reasons don't matter, as that question is irrelevant.

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump. Convicted. And
    then later pardoned by Trump (as president). That is all the evidence
    needed to show collusion.

    Paul Manaford found guilty on charges Hunter should be charged for and isn't, so far.

    Paul Manafort was convicted of crimes committed before Trump became
    president. And pardoned by Trump when Trump was president.

    Hunter Biden never committed any serious crimes, much less treason.
    Only two misdemeanors, and one count of not registering a firearm in
    a timely manner (which will be expunged from his record).

    Paul Manaford was targeted for political reason and was pardoned because of
    the that. Presidents can pardon... that's what they do

    Paul Manafort was convicted of real crimes he committed during
    the time when Donald Trump was running for president. His ties with
    Russia were exposed at the time, and are a matter of record.

    IOW, Adam Schiff was right. There was collusion between Trump
    and Russia. No doubt about it.

    After the House impeached Trump, the Senate held trial. The bogus
    claim of 67 votes needed for removal from office is easy to refute,
    as the US Constitution says two thirds of those voting (present).
    Which could be any number of Senators, even a majority being absent.

    That's not true... By LAW all have to be present for the trial and vote...

    Nope. Article I, Section 3

    "... no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two
    thirds of the Members present."

    There you go. In black and white.

    The prosecution made its case in the Senate, the defense never
    bothered to a rebuttal or response of any kind. Every Senator knew
    Trump was guilty of sin, and nobody wanted to embarrass themselves
    publicly by claiming otherwise.

    If the case was made they would have voted that way...

    I really do wish you would read the US Constitution. In the same
    Article I Section 3 it is clearly stated -

    "... Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than
    to removal from Office" - meaning the only question was whether or not
    to remove the president from office (regardless of reason or for no
    reason).

    but it wasn't and he was cleared.

    He was acquitted, not exonerated. The Senate did not have two thirds
    vote of those present to remove him from office. Doesn't matter whether
    he was guilty as sin or innocent as a lamb.

    The question was whether to remove him from office, or not.
    Not anything else.

    How, pray tell, does one go about to represent their cause correctly?

    Read the first amendment...

    Please answer the question. If you are able.

    Egging an angry mob onward to hang Mike Pence and assassinate
    Nancy Pelosi is a criminal act. Some would call it sedition.

    The only one egging people on was Ray Epp, a government plant.

    An angry mob wanted to hang Mike Pence, and assassinate Nancy Pelosi.
    That was on January 6, 2021 - with your beloved egging them on.

    Speaker McCarthy wants to expunge both of Trump's impeachments from
    the record. That makes you an enemy of the state. And you know what
    that means.

    It has been shown that the 1st impeachment was political, and unconstitutional...

    The Articles of Impeachment (in both impeachments) show criminal
    acts done by Donald J. Trump. The act of impeachment may be political,
    but the crimes he committed are criminal.

    Where as the second was the same...

    Yep. Criminal acts committed by the POTUS. He should have been
    removed from office by the Senate, but was protected by his MAGA
    nutjobs who were too scared of him to do anything else.

    This one was/is seen as unconstitutional because...

    Impeachment is unconstitutional???
    Trial by Senate is unconstitutional???
    My God, you are deluded!

    you don't impeach someone who is already out of office...

    Trump was impeached, both times, while he was in office.

    you impeach someone to remove them from office.

    You stupid doofus, the Senate removes bad eggs from office.
    Now go read your US Constitution. You can find it online if
    you do not have your own personal copy.

    Let McCarthy and the house vote...

    He won't let them. And they don't want to. Unless it is to impeach
    Joe Biden. In which case both Speaker McCarthy and his MAGA nutjobs
    will make an exception.

    make public why they believe what they believe and let public sour this out...

    What Republicans (MAGA nutjobs) are doing these days is gaslighting.
    Nothing more than that. Infected by Twitter (or Truth Social) it is
    by their own doing. Trump lost to Biden. Big time. Even though none
    of them wants to admit it. Especially Trump himself, who continues
    to spout The Big Lie despite his failure in the courts to overturn
    a legitiimate election.

    It's really too bad you have chosen to swallow their bait, being
    a mere pawn in their own game. One day you might grow out of it.
    But somehow I doubt it.

    BTW, you keep saying that Trump was impeached....

    Twice. The only president in history who has managed that feat.
    And to think he did it in only one term.

    Had Trump actually been impeached he wouldn't be able to run in 2024... or even 2020 for that matter.

    Had he been impeached *and* removed from office then he would
    not be eligible to run for office. But that was not the case.

    House voted to impeach...

    Twice.

    Senate cleared him of all wrong doing...

    Acquitted, not exonerated.

    Words have meanings.

    I suggest you look them up.

    In a real dictionary.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 2 10:20:13 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Maybe Santos will be found "guilty" and be sentenced to prison
    before the next election. Of course, Speaker McCarthy can pull the
    plug on Santos being a member of the House anytime he wants ...

    What you just said here is NOT true...

    Well, it is true Speaker McCarthy has no control on his own party,
    its members doing whatever they want whenever they want. Even if it
    costs him his speakership.

    McCarthy cannot, and should not, remove someone from the house.

    Not by himself, as that would make him a dictator. But he can call
    for members of his own party to do so. Even Democrats would jump on
    board to join him on that endeavor, making him the most popular guy
    in the universe - at least for a day.

    One... it's not in the constitution...

    Excuse me?

    please help me here and quote the section of the constitution that allows him to do so...

    The powers of the legislative branch can be found in Section I.
    I suggest you read it.

    Adam Schiff is someone that deserved to be removed because he abused his office while he was elected...

    What has he been charged with? Nothing that I know of. Kind of like
    Hillary Clinton. And Hunter Biden. Only Schiff is a US Representative.

    He wasn't and should not have been because of this...

    The issue is George Santos, a self-admitted liar who has been charged
    with several criminal acts ...

    and it's a big one!!!!!

    Pretty much everybody knows Santos is guilty.

    As a representative government people voted that person to represent them....

    Santos deliberately misrepresented himself during the election. His constituents have asked him to resign from office. Speaker McCarthy
    has refused to have him expelled from the House, or even to have him
    censured. The man is a disgrace. Not only to himself, but to all of
    mankind.

    and it's not up to Kevin McCarthy to over-rule that.

    As Speaker of the House he has every right to ask his collegues
    to expel him. But since he is so weak, having no control over his
    own party, he refuses to even harbor the thought.

    So Mr. Santos may have to go to trial, for whatever lies he committed and if
    he is found guilty he can pay whatever fine... or whatever and he can still
    run and get re-elected.

    Santos can avoid that by changing his plea to "guilty" and accept
    whatever punishment the judge chooses to dish out to him. That would
    be his best option. Not that it would help him get re-elected, which
    will not happen in his lifetime (or the next).

    I think if you hold all politicians to this "Santos" standard about 85% will
    have to step-down

    Really? What other members of Congress (other than Santos) are
    currently charged with having committed criminal acts?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 2 10:20:57 2023
    Hello Joe,

    What did Mr. Santos do, after he was sworn into office, that I'm
    unaw
    of... ??

    He plead "not guilty" to 13 criminal counts this morning.
    I'll spare you the details.


    In America you have a trial where the allegations have to be proven... In America you are INNOCENT until proven otherwise in court.

    The man has already publicly admitted that he lied in order to get
    elected into office. That itself should be enough for him to resign
    from office. But he adamantly refuses to do so, even though he is
    guilty as sin (of all counts charged) as well as being a bona fide
    liar. Speaker McCarthy refuses to call for his expulsion from the
    House, and no effort has even been made to censure him. The man
    is a total disgrace - to himself, his constituents, and to this
    entire country.

    Oh, he has the right to defend himself in court. But the judge
    and jury in that court will not be Speaker McCarthy and his MAGA
    nutjobs, but real Americans who will render justice.

    Santos claims he will run for re-election. His upcoming trial
    might not be until after the election, not that it matters. He
    is bound to lose, given all the negative publicity he has had
    due to his own actions.

    The constituents in his district deserve better, and Santos knows
    it. But he doesn't care. And neither does Speaker McCarthy and his
    group of MAGA nutjobs. All they are interested in is power. Power
    to do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want.
    Total unchecked power.

    BTW, I just looked... actually just looked at the constitution and there is
    not clause about having to step down if you lied of had criminal allegations levied against you.

    Politicians never lie - they are just more expedient with the truth.

    There is nothing in the US Constitution in regards to who the House
    has the right to expel from its chambers. No reason at all need be
    given. If the House wants to expel Santos, it has every right to do
    so. With, or without reason.

    George Santos should man up and resign from office. But he won't.
    And Speaker McCarthy won't make him, because he needs his vote. So
    the people (regardless of political affiliation) in Santos' district
    are stuck with having a creep in office that they detest. How sad.

    BTW, again... Trump may get re-elected in 2024 and have an ankle monitor on...

    No worries. Biden will whip his ass. Again. Worse than last time.
    Assuming the orange clown gets his party's nomination.

    maybe even have to see his probation officer once a week....

    Like I said, nothing to worry about. Everything is under control.

    BECAUSE there is NO clause stopping ANY person running for and winning... that has a criminal past.

    Eugene Debs tried it while behind bars.
    But voters chose someboty else.

    Lyndon Larouche also tried it.
    But not many folks even noticed.

    The constitution says that people who ware impeached cannot run for office though....

    Where does it say that? Article and Section, please.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 2 10:21:09 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Trump was not yet out of office until January 20th. They came closer
    to
    getting a positive vote than on the first impeachment -- which would
    have barred him from holding any federal office in the future.


    This is true... Close only counts in Hand-grenades and not impeachments. The magic number is 67, not 66 or lower.

    Two thirds of those presesnt, moron.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 2 09:03:40 2023
    On 02 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Bill Clinton was also impeached. Once.
    As was Andrew Johnson. Once.


    I don't think you understand the impeachment process.... There is 2 parts to the process...

    1) The house votes on it, simple majority wins the case. The house then acts like a prosecutor and presents the evidence for the impeachment to the Senate as a trial.

    2) The senate holds a trial and it takes 2/3 of the senate to vote them out of office. 67 senators did NOT vote Cliton out of office Ergo... Clinton was not impeached. He can run for public office and do whatever he wants.

    The same stands for Trump, or any of the 4 presidents who have faced impeachment.... The FACED the impeachment process... Andre Johnson NARROWLY avoided being impeach... 2/3s of the senate didn't vote him out. Richard Nixon stepped down before the senate could vote... and President Ford pardoned him anyway... Clinton... senate didn't reach a 2/3 threshold and the same stands for Trump in both cases, no 2/3 threshold.

    You need parts 1 and 2 to be impeached. So for there has been no president impeached... there have been 4 who faced it... none impeached.

    The house voting on impeachment is like an indictment, allegations that need to be tested out in a trial... part 2... with the senate.

    You need to educate yourself a little more before you put yourself out there...


    The only POTUS ever to be put to trial twice. And in one term.
    All in due accordance with the US Constitution.


    This is true... and it was all political and this is why the GOP may vote to expunge his record.


    The House doesn't have to prove shit. All it has to do is make allegations. Point fingers and accuse. If a majority vote "Yes"
    the article is passed. Until all articles have been voted on.


    They do have to prove shit.... They act as the prosecutors during the senate trial... THATS THEIR JOB... They present the facts behind the articles of impeachment. The president has his defense... they argue things out like it was a trial. Supreme court Chief Justis is the Judge.... Today all 100 senators are jurors, and it's mandatory that they be present and listen to the evidence and vote on the evidence presented.

    This is basic civics... If you are an American you should know this.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51162251
    BBC article breaks it down nicely for you

    From that article

    "The prosecutors

    Congressman Adam Schiff, Democrat

    Mr Schiff is the leader of the seven House impeachment managers: he and Jerry Nadler, as well as House of Representatives members Jason Crow, Val Demings, Hakeem Jeffries, Zoe Lofgren and Sylvia Garcia."

    Even the BBC knows that they house has to prove their allegations...

    Basic US Civics

    Bring yourself up to speed...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 2 09:10:56 2023
    On 02 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    The man has already publicly admitted that he lied in order to get
    elected into office. That itself should be enough for him to resign
    from office. But he adamantly refuses to do so, even though he is
    guilty as sin (of all counts charged) as well as being a bona fide
    liar. Speaker McCarthy refuses to call for his expulsion from the
    House, and no effort has even been made to censure him. The man
    is a total disgrace - to himself, his constituents, and to this
    entire country.


    I'll ask you again... simple... where in the constitution does it say Kevin McCarthy has the authority to remove Santos??

    There isn't, he doesn't have the authority.... He didn't have it to remove Schiff... He didn't have it to fine Schiff $16,000.000.00 but he did have the right to censure Schiff. In a representational government the people choose their representatives... NOT Kevin McCarthy. Santos will face the voters soon.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 2 09:20:14 2023
    On 02 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    This is true... Close only counts in Hand-grenades and not impeachmen The magic number is 67, not 66 or lower.

    Two thirds of those presesnt, moron.


    https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/

    Here's a link to the constitution....

    Here's the part you need to read... from that link...

    "The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."

    Impeachment is sooooo important that everyone needs to be doing their job...

    Basic US Civics...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 3 09:10:43 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    It has been shown that the 1st impeachment was political, and unconstitutional... Where as the second was the same... This one was/is seen as unconstitutional because... you don't impeach someone who is already out of office... you impeach someone to remove them from
    office.

    The problem is that Lee really doesn't understand much. And because he thinks he's an expert, he doesn't try to learn.

    For the Ignorant Elitists out there:
    One of the things that the Founding Fathers realized is that the law could be misused against a sitting representative.

    Ex: Big vote coming up, and one side trumps up charges against the swing vote rep. The law hauls him off to jail. The vote happens, but swings the other way because the one rep is in jail. Then the charges are dropped because they weren't valid in the first place. But the damage was done.

    (Doesn't this sort of sound familiar today?)

    Hence the process for impeaching first. A successful impeachment means removal from office. Then they can be put in jail.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 3 09:47:46 2023
    On 03 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    The problem is that Lee really doesn't understand much. And because he thinks he's an expert, he doesn't try to learn.

    For the Ignorant Elitists out there:
    One of the things that the Founding Fathers realized is that the law
    could be misused against a sitting representative.

    I try to show the same restraint for both sides... I see what Schiff did while he was in office as being a HUGE crime... While he was in office no less... Is there somewhere in the constitution that states you can sideline a representative because he's a criminal... NOPE there isn't... Can you alter their wage by levying a fine.... Well it does say that you can't alter their wage between elections... SO NO... the house does not have that authority ... even though Schiff knew what he was doing was costing the tax payers millions and was wrong... So, they censured him... Santos didn't do anything like Schiff... Anything Santos did he did before becoming elected... If the constituents of any of these people vote them back in... let them do it.


    Ex: Big vote coming up, and one side trumps up charges against the swing vote rep. The law hauls him off to jail. The vote happens, but swings the other way because the one rep is in jail. Then the charges are dropped because they weren't valid in the first place. But the damage
    was done.

    (Doesn't this sort of sound familiar today?)

    Hence the process for impeaching first. A successful impeachment means removal from office. Then they can be put in jail.


    Well, the keep going at Trump with Lawfare ... and in doing so they are helping him with his reelection campaign... The rally last weekend in South Carolina could have has as much as 75,000 people.

    The left should just meet on the battlefield of ideas and debate the ideas of their platform...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 4 10:28:03 2023
    Hello Ron,

    It has been shown that the 1st impeachment was political, and
    unconstitutional... Where as the second was the same... This one was/is
    seen as unconstitutional because... you don't impeach someone who is
    already out of office... you impeach someone to remove them from
    office.

    The problem is that Lee really doesn't understand much. And because he thinks he's an expert, he doesn't try to learn.

    Impeachment is forever.

    [..]

    Hence the process for impeaching first.

    Trump was successfully impeached. Twice. In the same term.

    A successful impeachment means removal from office.

    You are one stupid fuck.

    "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other
    Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."
    ~ Article I, Section 2

    Then they can be put in jail.

    Like I said, you are one stupid fuck.

    Impeachment is forever.

    Have a day,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jul 4 08:40:10 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I try to show the same restraint for both sides... I see what Schiff
    did while he was in office as being a HUGE crime... While he was in
    office no less... Is there somewhere in the constitution that states
    you can sideline a representative because he's a criminal... NOPE there isn't...

    Yes, there is. I posted that in a previous message.
    Plus there's the impeachment process - which can be used against a sitting congress-critter as well as a President.
    And, of course, there's the Recall process.

    But, by design, those processes have checks and balances to prevent one side from using the legal system against a sitting gov't rep for political purposes.

    Well, the keep going at Trump with Lawfare

    Which shows how corrupt the whole system is. Most of these people need to go ... to jail.

    The left should just meet on the battlefield of ideas and debate the
    ideas of their platform...

    They can't win that way. They don't believe in objective truth. They have no facts. They have no arguments. All they have is insults and, according to some videos I've seen, barking to drown out the other side.

    And is yet another reason I don't bother responding to the Ignorant Elitists here.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 4 10:40:16 2023
    On 04 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Yes, there is. I posted that in a previous message.
    Plus there's the impeachment process - which can be used against a
    sitting congress-critter as well as a President.
    And, of course, there's the Recall process.

    But, by design, those processes have checks and balances to prevent one side from using the legal system against a sitting gov't rep for
    political purposes.


    I agree with you... Because it takes 2/3 vote in the senate to seal the deal I just don't think there would be enough votes to take Garland out.... Or Santos or Schiff... I think the Democrat party is too partisan to get a 2/3 vote in the senate. I just think the people should vote their representatives in or out.

    Back to Garland... I think if they have sufficient evidence to impeach him... He'll resign or Biden will fire him before the trial so they can keep the evidence a secret.

    Well, the keep going at Trump with Lawfare

    Which shows how corrupt the whole system is. Most of these people need
    to go ... to jail.

    We'd loose about 85% of congress and the senate... And a good percentage of the US government work force.

    The left should just meet on the battlefield of ideas and debate the ideas of their platform...

    They can't win that way. They don't believe in objective truth. They have no facts. They have no arguments. All they have is insults and, according to some videos I've seen, barking to drown out the other side.

    And is yet another reason I don't bother responding to the Ignorant Elitists here.


    :) an article out saying that they found Cocaine in the White House library... Looks like Hunter fell off the wagon!!!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Jul 4 20:48:20 2023
    Impeachment is forever.

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    I "successfully" lifted the toilet seat, but I still managed to get piss on it.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 5 00:53:02 2023
    On 07-04-23 08:40, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Ib Joe about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    They can't win that way. They don't believe in objective truth. They have no facts. They have no arguments. All they have is insults and, according to some videos I've seen, barking to drown out the other
    side.

    That paragraph is a perfect description of the Trump MAGA right wing republicans.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:120/616 to Dale Shipp on Wed Jul 5 01:31:59 2023
    On 05 Jul 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    That paragraph is a perfect description of the Trump MAGA right wing republicans.

    the absolute best you have is "no you" ? lol

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Alexander Grotewohl on Wed Jul 5 01:05:08 2023
    That paragraph is a perfect description of the Trump MAGA right wing
    republicans.

    the absolute best you have is "no you" ? lol

    Dale didn't say "no you".

    Dale's point was simple, concise, on point, and true.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 5 08:02:56 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Back to Garland... I think if they have sufficient evidence to impeach him... He'll resign or Biden will fire him before the trial so they
    can keep the evidence a secret.

    Ya, I can't but help notice all the weasels who are "retiring" from their gov't jobs now.

    We'd loose about 85% of congress and the senate... And a good
    percentage of the US government work force.

    And that's a bad thing? 8)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 5 08:02:56 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Impeachment is forever.

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    The term is "copium".

    Lee has to continue to push the lie to cope with the fact that he's wrong.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Alexander Grotewohl on Wed Jul 5 08:02:56 2023
    Alexander Grotewohl wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    That paragraph is a perfect description of the Trump MAGA right wing republicans.

    the absolute best you have is "no you" ? lol

    Ya, it is. That's why I don't bother responding, or even reading, the responses by the Ignorant Elitists.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jul 5 08:32:55 2023
    That paragraph is a perfect description of the Trump MAGA right wing
    republicans.

    the absolute best you have is "no you" ? lol

    Dale didn't say "no you".

    Dale's point was simple, concise, on point, and true.

    Dale is a good guy, but his description was a vague pile of generalizations.

    The media is trying to normalize terms like "MAGA Republicans," but it's not a thing. There's only 1 kind of conservative in the USA, and it's the kind that votes Republican. Don't let others fool you with historical jargon.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 5 08:56:48 2023
    Impeachment is forever.

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    The term is "copium".

    Lee has to continue to push the lie to cope with the fact that he's
    wrong.

    Apparently there's a chapter in the leftist handbook somewhere about "set the narrative no matter how useless the circumstance may seem."

    They all do precisely just that. They're scared to credit a Republican or to discredit a Democrat. It seems like some kind of horrendous punishment is imminent for any naysayers.

    That, or someone gives them a nickel for every Trump insult and/or Democrat compliment.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Wed Jul 5 08:34:00 2023
    | This article refers to the messages as "alleged." Since this story was | printed,
    | Hunter's attorney has issued a statement. That statement
    does not claim that
    | the messages are not authentic, but rather that they were
    disclosed illegally
    | and that the messages are the words of "an addict."

    Note the last paragraph. Hunter's attorney does not deny their existence.
    We don't know that dad was there for sure.

    That was my thought also. Was this while Hunter was using?

    The only mention I have seen of that was his attorney's claim that they
    were the words of "an addict." Whether that means "using" or "former" I imagine only he and Hunter know.

    You also mentioned the one-sided aspect, which leaves one to wonder if the other parties didn't respond (which would have been smart on their part),
    or if the responses were left out of the reports.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Wed Jul 5 08:35:00 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    In America you have a trial where the allegations have to be proven... In America you are INNOCENT until proven otherwise in court.

    But in Clown World (i.e. Lee's "reality"), you are guilty when someone
    ccuses
    you.

    But only if the clown agrees with the allegation. So allegation against
    Trump = must be true. Allegation against Bidens = must be false!!!


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Jul 5 07:53:00 2023
    because he's a criminal... NOPE there isn't... Can you alter their wage by
    ev
    ng a fine.... Well it does say that you can't alter their wage between
    lectio
    ... SO NO... the house does not have that authority ... even though Schiff
    ne
    what he was doing was costing the tax payers millions and was wrong... So,
    he

    There were some folks mad at the Republicans who voted against it the first time, but they were correct it would not hold up in court so there was no reason to pursue that avenue.

    censured him... Santos didn't do anything like Schiff... Anything Santos did
    did before becoming elected... If the constituents of any of these people
    o
    them back in... let them do it.

    Unfortunately, Schiff's probably will vote him back in. What Santos did
    was before he got elected. However, I think the more important question is whether or not what he did helped him get elected. If so, there is
    probably at least an ethics violation in there somewhere.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 5 08:13:16 2023
    Dale didn't say "no you".

    Dale's point was simple, concise, on point, and true.

    Dale is a good guy, but his description was a vague pile of generalizations.

    What was vague? He was direct and to the point.

    The media is trying to normalize terms like "MAGA Republicans," but it's not a thing.

    Yeah, MAGA repiblicans are a thing.

    There's only 1 kind of conservative in the USA, and it's the kind that votes Republican. Don't let others fool you with historical jargon.

    MAGA republicans are not conservative, not even close.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 5 10:23:11 2023
    On 05 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    We'd loose about 85% of congress and the senate... And a good percentage of the US government work force.

    And that's a bad thing? 8)


    No it's not... I wished I didn't learn what I have learned over the past couple years... I am leaving a hot mess for my children and grandchildren.

    I think there has been issues in the past... BUT because we have the Internet we have access to all kinds of things we never could access before.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Jul 5 10:49:05 2023
    On 05 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    There were some folks mad at the Republicans who voted against it the first time, but they were correct it would not hold up in court so there was no reason to pursue that avenue.


    There was 3 different votes on Schiff...

    1) There was a vote to expel him from the house, they didn't have enough votes... Even if they can do it they shouldn't do it. The people that he represents need to vote him in or out, and not congress.

    2) There was a vote to fine Schiff $16,000,000.00, about half the price of what it cost the taxpayers for all his lies. It actually says in the constitution about this and they would have lost this if it ever went to the Supreme Court.

    3) There was a vote to censure Schiff... and that made it... So someone looked at Schiff and said in a stern voice.... Stop doing that...

    That was it... At the end the representatives voted in a way that was constitutional and it made a point.


    Unfortunately, Schiff's probably will vote him back in. What Santos did was before he got elected. However, I think the more important question is whether or not what he did helped him get elected. If so, there is probably at least an ethics violation in there somewhere.


    Whatever... maybe someone should review Nancy Pelosi's stock transactions... I'm not sure what politician has said one thing to get elected and then did the exact opposite when they got into office.

    There are laws out there if you or I lie to congress we go to jail... but if congress lies to us... it's OK... just politics...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 5 20:13:25 2023
    Hello Ron,

    I try to show the same restraint for both sides... I see what Schiff
    did while he was in office as being a HUGE crime... While he was in
    office no less... Is there somewhere in the constitution that states
    you can sideline a representative because he's a criminal... NOPE there
    isn't...

    Yes, there is. I posted that in a previous message.
    Plus there's the impeachment process - which can be used against a sitting congress-critter as well as a President.
    And, of course, there's the Recall process.

    I do not know if you have a reading comprehension problem, or that
    you simply have not bothered to read a copy of the US Constitution.
    Perhaps the problem is that you have never read it. Which might
    explain why that makes you the stupidest dumbfuck in fidonet.

    I hate to bust your bubble, but according to the US Constitution
    (the real one) only the President, the Vice President, and all civil
    officers can be impeached and removed from office.

    US Representatives and US Senators cannot be impeached, although
    they can be expelled by their own respective members.

    You might want to brush up on your reading skills, as well as
    learning how to comprehend what you read.

    But, by design, those processes have checks and balances to prevent one side
    from using the legal system against a sitting gov't rep for political purposes.

    Pleasse. Quit blabbering nonsense.

    The US Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall
    have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, Section 2), and "the
    Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments ..."

    Now do put on your reading glasses and do your own homework.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 5 20:13:32 2023
    Hello Joe,

    But, by design, those processes have checks and balances to prevent one
    side from using the legal system against a sitting gov't rep for political purposes.

    I agree with you...

    Gosh, you and Ron are both deluded ...

    Because it takes 2/3 vote in the senate to seal the deal

    Trump got rid of Comey. All by his lonesome self.
    He also got rid of several others. All by his lonesome self.

    I just don't think there would be enough votes to take Garland out.... Or

    All it took was one vote by Trump ...

    Santos or Schiff...

    A simple majority is all it would take to expel Santos, who really
    does deserve to go to prison. Certainly Speaker McCarthy could arrange
    that. Especially since the majority of House members are Republicans.

    I think the Democrat party is too partisan to get a 2/3 vote in the senate.

    The House takes care of its own. If it wants to. Schiff (who has
    done nothing wrong) is a member of the House. Santos (who has done
    plenty wrong) continues to be a member of the House, despite being
    charged with several crimes.

    I just think the people should vote their representatives in or out.

    George Santos should resign, as he lied to get himself elected.
    Along with his future as a convicted criminal.

    Back to Garland...

    The finest AG this country has ever had.

    I think if they have sufficient evidence to impeach him...

    There is none.

    He'll resign or Biden will fire him before the trial so they can keep the evidence a secret.

    Keep dreaming.

    Well, the keep going at Trump with Lawfare

    Which shows how corrupt the whole system is. Most of these people need
    to go ... to jail.

    We'd loose about 85% of congress and the senate... And a good percentage of
    the US government work force.

    This country has the best politicians who can be bought.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 5 22:37:28 2023
    Hello Ron,

    Impeachment is forever.

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an
    impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    The term is "copium".

    Lee has to continue to push the lie to cope with the fact that he's wrong.

    Lie? What lie? I never lie.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 5 22:37:35 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Impeachment is forever.

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    Once articles of impeachment are passed (by simple majority)
    they become ingrained as part of history and can never be removed.
    Kind of like a permanent stain that can never be erased.

    I "successfully" lifted the toilet seat, but I still managed to get piss on
    it.

    Once the dunce cap of impeachment is placed on a president's head
    it stays put forever. Trump is the only president in history who
    successfully donned two of them on top of his orange head at the
    same time. Not really sure it is possible for anybody to make it
    three.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 5 22:37:40 2023
    Hello Joe,

    There were some folks mad at the Republicans who voted against MP>it the
    first time, but they were correct it would not hold up in MP>court so there
    was no reason to pursue that avenue.

    There was 3 different votes on Schiff...

    None that mattered.

    1) There was a vote to expel him from the house, ...

    Since there was no reason to expel him, it was bound to fail.

    2) There was a vote to fine Schiff $16,000,000.00,

    Since there was no reason to fine him ...

    3) There was a vote to censure Schiff...

    Since there was no reason to censure him, and they did it anyway,
    it remained meaningless, as it accomplished nothing - except to make
    fools of those who voted to censure him.

    and that made it...

    For what purpose? It is nothing but a resolution. Accomplishing
    absolutely nothing. Except to make fools who voted for it.

    So someone looked at Schiff and said in a stern voice.... Stop doing that...

    Adam Schiff was elected to represent the constituents of his district.
    I expect him to continue doing what he was elected to do. After all,
    he did take an oath to do exactly that. Despite the antics of some of
    his colleagues in the other party.

    That was it... At the end the representatives voted in a way that was constitutional and it made a point.

    The failure of Speaker McCarthy and Republican members to expel
    George Santos from the House is duly noted.

    Unfortunately, Schiff's probably will vote him back in.

    Adam Schiff is running for US Senator, dumbfuck.


    What Santos did was before he got elected.

    Santos lied to get himself elected (by his own admission), and
    he has been charged with having committed several criminal acts.
    He should resign from office, if he has any integrity. Or the
    House should expel him. Which it chose not to do so, in a vote.
    How embarrassing for Speaker McCarthy and his band of MAGA
    Republicans.

    However, I think the more important question is whether or not MP>what he
    did helped him get elected.

    It is not a matter of "whether or not" as Santos himself publicly
    admitted he lied to get himself elected. Do keep up, moron.

    If so, there is probably at least an ethics violation in there
    somewhere.

    Oh, please. Do not make yourself more of a moron than you already
    are. There are no ifs, ands or buts. The man said he lied. And he
    said so in public. On camera. For all to hear.

    It would be manly for him to resign from office. But he does not
    have the balls to do that. He claims he will run for re-election.
    Not that he has any real chance of winning. His constituents are
    of no importance, as Speaker McCarthy needs his vote ...

    Whatever...

    Constituents don't matter. That sounds about right. What a fucked
    up world in MAGAland. With an orange clown waiting for a redux.

    maybe someone should review Nancy Pelosi's stock transactions...

    Buy some, sell some, matters not to her broker ...

    I'm not sure what politician has said one thing to get elected and then did
    the exact opposite when they got into office.

    "I will never lie to you." ~Jimmy Carter

    There are laws out there if you or I lie to congress we go to jail... but if
    congress lies to us... it's OK... just politics...

    Politicians never lie. They are just more expedient with the truth.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Thu Jul 6 00:03:02 2023
    Dale is a good guy, but his description was a vague pile of generalizati

    What was vague? He was direct and to the point.

    Ron said (this is shortened): "The left doesn't like facts" and then Dale said "That describes MAGA Republicans," but I said "that's vague" because it's not obvious who he's talking about: Who are "MAGA Republicans?"

    Republicans are not fans of segregation and/or division, so we don't pay mind to the left's lame attempt to divide us (MAGGOTS divided by ROMNEYRINOS?)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Jul 6 00:29:24 2023
    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    Once articles of impeachment are passed (by simple majority)
    they become ingrained as part of history and can never be removed.
    Kind of like a permanent stain that can never be erased.

    To me that doesn't mean anything. Does Bill Clinton's "permanent stain" still haunt him?

    Once the dunce cap of impeachment is placed on a president's head
    it stays put forever. Trump is the only president in history who successfully donned two of them on top of his orange head at the
    same time. Not really sure it is possible for anybody to make it
    three.

    "Russian collusion story fell apart after media campaign to dethrone Trump" will be a juicier section of the history book.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 6 07:21:15 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That, or someone gives them a nickel for every Trump insult and/or Democrat compliment.

    And Trump Derangement Syndrome is still a thing with these people.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Jul 6 07:21:15 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    No it's not... I wished I didn't learn what I have learned over the
    past couple years... I am leaving a hot mess for my children and grandchildren.

    I'm sure you aren't the only one who feels that way.

    I think there has been issues in the past... BUT because we have the Internet we have access to all kinds of things we never could access before.

    Yup. The Elitists spent decades infiltrating the Media only to have it negated by the Internet. Hence why the Biden Regime needed to work with Big Tech to sensor "misinformation" (which in Clown World means "facts") on their platforms.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Jul 6 10:49:10 2023
    On 06 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I think there has been issues in the past... BUT because we have the Internet we have access to all kinds of things we never could access before.

    Yup. The Elitists spent decades infiltrating the Media only to have it negated by the Internet. Hence why the Biden Regime needed to work with Big Tech to sensor "misinformation" (which in Clown World means "facts") on their platforms.


    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meeting with Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship. Biden Admin is appealing this judges decision... Judge stated that plaintive, 2 states that are suing will probably will based on the merits of the case. First amendment issue

    Appointments with Big Tech were canceled ... appeal filed.

    I love the constitution!!!!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Thu Jul 6 16:08:43 2023
    That, or someone gives them a nickel for every Trump insult and/or Democrat compliment.

    And Trump Derangement Syndrome is still a thing with these people.

    He's still a threat to their access to taxpayer money.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Thu Jul 6 16:15:31 2023
    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meeting with Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship. Biden Admin
    is appealing this judges decision... Judge stated that plaintive, 2
    states that are suing will probably will based on the merits of the
    case. First amendment issue

    Who knows what US Senators Sinema & Manchin discussed behind closed doors with CEOs at the WEF in Davos?

    Ways to help the American people? I doubt it!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Jul 6 15:07:00 2023
    Unfortunately, Schiff's probably will vote him back in. What Santos did was before he got elected. However, I think the more important question is whether or not what he did helped him get elected. If so, there is probably at least an ethics violation in there somewhere.


    Whatever... maybe someone should review Nancy Pelosi's stock transactions...

    not sure what politician has said one thing to get elected and then did the

    ct opposite when they got into office.

    IIRC, Santos lied about his identity. Then again, so did Obama at one
    point in his life, so there is that. Santos also told lies about his background, similar to the "gaffes" that we wish Biden would be held accountable for.

    I agree a look into the Pelosi stock transactions would be interesting. I don't buy the "I didn't tell my husband this or that was going on. He just coincidentally made those transactions at just the right time" excuse.

    Whatever happened with that supposed attacker that "showed up" at their
    house?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Jul 6 15:34:00 2023
    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meeting
    i
    Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship.

    And, of course, Former AG Eric Holder immediately came out and said the
    courts were wrong to do so. Some people do not like free speach.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 6 16:18:56 2023
    On 06 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meeting with Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship. Biden Adm is appealing this judges decision... Judge stated that plaintive, 2 states that are suing will probably will based on the merits of the case. First amendment issue

    Who knows what US Senators Sinema & Manchin discussed behind closed
    doors with CEOs at the WEF in Davos?

    Ways to help the American people? I doubt it!

    It's the first step to protecting the 1st amendment...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Jul 6 21:05:53 2023
    On 06 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    IIRC, Santos lied about his identity. Then again, so did Obama at one point in his life, so there is that. Santos also told lies about his background, similar to the "gaffes" that we wish Biden would be held accountable for.

    I agree a look into the Pelosi stock transactions would be interesting.
    I don't buy the "I didn't tell my husband this or that was going on. He just coincidentally made those transactions at just the right time" excuse.

    Whatever happened with that supposed attacker that "showed up" at their house?


    I listened to some legal experts talk on this.... It's a bad president... Politicians lie... that's what they do.... There is a group of people in the republican party called RINOs.... If you don't know that stands for Republican In Name Only.... Well, how do RINOs get elected....The LIE... once they are in they start voting in a manner not consistent with their election rhetoric. There is NO democrat version of a RINO...

    Removing someone out of office for doing something they didn't do while they were in office is unconstitutional and a bad president.... Lets just say they could muster up enough votes to vote him out.... and you got the warm fuzzy feeling you wanted...

    The people who voted him in might get pissed... it's up to them, not you, to vote him in or out. If we start doing what you say... then every 2 years the leaders of the house, whatever party that might be, will be kicking people they don't like out for whatever reason they feel justified in using.

    In 2024 the democrats need to run ads in Santos district reminding them of the idiot they elected... Put a good person to run against him and debate him on policies.

    Let the people who he represents take care of him.... Like the constitution says.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Jul 6 21:08:03 2023
    On 06 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meet
    i
    Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship.

    And, of course, Former AG Eric Holder immediately came out and said the courts were wrong to do so. Some people do not like free speach.


    Doesn't matter what people like or don't like. The 1st amendment is for the people... Federal government can't do a workaround by getting private companies to carry their water.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 7 01:16:04 2023
    On 07-06-23 00:03, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-


    Dale is a good guy, but his description was a vague
    pile of generalizati

    What was vague? He was direct and to the point.

    Ron said (this is shortened): "The left doesn't like facts"
    and then Dale said "That describes MAGA Republicans," but I
    said "that's vague" because it's not obvious who he's
    talking about: Who are "MAGA Republicans?"

    Clearly, MAGA Republicans are devotees of Trump and his like. I'd
    include the Freedom caucus of the House as being a sample. Also most of
    those who attend Trump rallies, chanting "lock her up" on cue, etc.

    Republicans are not fans of segregation and/or division, so
    we don't pay mind to the left's lame attempt to divide us
    (MAGGOTS divided by ROMNEYRINOS?)

    I don't know what you mean by MAGGOTS, but IMO Romney (and McCain) are
    examples of what it means to be a Repulican. It is the ones I call MAGA
    who are really the RINOs.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 7 12:20:23 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Accusations are forever, but there's nothing "successful" about an
    impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction.

    Once articles of impeachment are passed (by simple majority)
    they become ingrained as part of history and can never be removed.
    Kind of like a permanent stain that can never be erased.

    To me that doesn't mean anything. Does Bill Clinton's "permanent stain" still haunt him?

    Not at all. Ken Starr stole it from Monica, put it on display, and
    nobody bothered to view the evidence. After the trial in the Senate,
    Mr. Bill returned Monica's blue dress - with the permanent stain.
    She thanked him for allowing her to spend time with him, and then
    moved on to California. Or someplace out West where she could have
    some more fun.

    Once the dunce cap of impeachment is placed on a president's head
    it stays put forever. Trump is the only president in history who
    successfully donned two of them on top of his orange head at the
    same time. Not really sure it is possible for anybody to make it
    three.

    "Russian collusion story fell apart after media campaign to dethrone Trump"
    will be a juicier section of the history book.

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump, was convicted
    of being in cahoots with Russia. After Trump was elected president,
    he pardoned Manafort for his crimes, thus proving the two of them
    were in cahoots with Russia. Verdict: GUILTY

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 7 07:24:51 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I listened to some legal experts talk on this.... It's a bad
    president... Politicians lie... that's what they do.... There is a
    group of people in the republican party called RINOs.... If you don't
    know that stands for Republican In Name Only.... Well, how do RINOs
    get elected....The LIE... once they are in they start voting in a
    manner not consistent with their election rhetoric. There is NO
    democrat version of a RINO...

    Our struggle is not "Right vs. Left" or "Democrat vs. Republican". It's between the Elitists who believe that they need to rule over everyone (because they are so smart, you know) and everyone else.

    The Elitists are on in "both" parties. I use the term "both" because there is only 1 party and the people involved keep trying to create an illusion that there are 2 parties. Sort of how they setup Fox news to be the illusion that there is independent media.

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jul 7 08:35:55 2023
    On 07 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Our struggle is not "Right vs. Left" or "Democrat vs. Republican". It's between the Elitists who believe that they need to rule over everyone (because they are so smart, you know) and everyone else.

    The Elitists are on in "both" parties. I use the term "both" because there is only 1 party and the people involved keep trying to create an illusion that there are 2 parties. Sort of how they setup Fox news to
    be the illusion that there is independent media.

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.


    Not me.... The problem with voting Democrat is that you almost always know what you're going to get. I vote Republican... if they look like they are a RINO I won't cast my vote for either.

    What you call the Elitists, I'm calling the Uni-Party... Both democrats and republicans who serve themselves and not the country.

    We need term limits ... someone should sneak it in one of those 5000 page bills they pass in the middle of the night without reading or debating it.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jul 7 08:37:25 2023
    On 07 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.


    I stand corrected I would vote for RFK Jr. if it came between RFK Jr. and a non-Trump republican

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 7 22:04:09 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    Not me.... The problem with voting Democrat is that you almost always know what you're going to get. I vote Republican... if they look like they are a RINO I won't cast my vote for either.

    What you call the Elitists, I'm calling the Uni-Party... Both democrats and
    republicans who serve themselves and not the country.

    We need term limits ... someone should sneak it in one of those 5000 page bills they pass in the middle of the night without reading or debating it.

    What you want is Communism. Soviet-style. Have your "Party" install
    your master. Just like Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev, Andropov, and so many
    others did in the good old USSR did. Only your guys speaking English
    rather than Russian.

    How is the cult of Trump any different than the cult of Lenin?
    Or the cult of Stalin? Or the cult of any other Communist dictator?
    Or if you don't like Soviet leaders, one can say the same about
    the cult of Trump being no different than the cult of Hitler.

    That's right. The Austrian corporal with the funny mustache.
    He is a favorite of right-wing nationalists, such as Oath Keepers.

    Repeal the 22nd Amendment. Failure to do so would be anti-democratic.
    Members of the House are not term-limited. And neither are members of
    the Senate. Hell, even Vice Presidents can serve an unlimited number
    of terms. So why should Presidents be limited to the number of terms,
    or years, in office?

    Of course, we could change the US Constitution. Have an election
    for a single term, that office being President for Life. With the
    President having the authority to appoint all members of Congress,
    in both the House and the Senate. Along with all justices on the
    US Supreme Court.

    The Vice President would serve as his designated concubine.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 7 22:04:17 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    My name is Lee! I know Kung Flu! Vote for me!

    I stand corrected I would vote for RFK Jr. if it came between RFK Jr. and a
    non-Trump republican

    Pat Paulson is dead. And so is Tiny Tim.
    And P.T. Barnum refuses to be nominated, or elected.
    That means you are stuck with me. :)

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jul 7 15:20:27 2023
    On 07 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    What you want is Communism. Soviet-style. Have your "Party" install
    your master. Just like Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev, Andropov, and so many others did in the good old USSR did. Only your guys speaking English rather than Russian.

    I think I just found the source of the cocaine in the White House.... You need to lay off it....

    If you haven't got it... I'm a small Federal government guy... If they were to reduce the Federal government down buy 75% I don't think it would be good enough.

    I don't know if you know... but Communism the government likes complete control... total control.

    I'm a 10th amendment kinda guy...

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

    Small federal government... Larger State and Local...

    As to your comments about Trump.... BEST president EVER!!!

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 7 18:39:00 2023
    Removing someone out of office for doing something they didn't do while they

    e in office is unconstitutional and a bad president.... Lets just say they
    ou
    muster up enough votes to vote him out.... and you got the warm fuzzy
    eeling
    ou wanted...

    I would agree, to a point. If it is something he did while campaigning for office, IMHO, it is not really too different than in office. If he did
    like Obama or Clinton and admitted to drug use while in college (or lied
    about it only for it to turn out to be true), I would agree with your
    statement that you should not remove them.

    If they did something really serious, like were found to have committed a murder, I would disagree. People in Massacheusetts would agree with you, though. At least they did back in the day when they kept voting Ted
    Kennedy into office.

    The people who voted him in might get pissed... it's up to them, not you, to

    e him in or out. If we start doing what you say... then every 2 years the
    ea
    rs of the house, whatever party that might be, will be kicking people they
    on
    like out for whatever reason they feel justified in using.

    That is one thing about him that is different than other offices. The most
    he will serve, if the voters don't like him, is 2 years. It is not like a
    4 or 6 year term. You have a point there.

    In 2024 the democrats need to run ads in Santos district reminding them of
    he
    diot they elected... Put a good person to run against him and debate him on

    icies.

    Let the people who he represents take care of him.... Like the constitution
    a

    It would be better if a Republican also did that in the primary.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 7 18:40:00 2023
    Funny AF, Judge ordered that the Biden administration needs to stop meet >MP> i
    Big Tech to conspire with them on censorship.

    And, of course, Former AG Eric Holder immediately came out and said the >MP> courts were wrong to do so. Some people do not like free speach.

    Doesn't matter what people like or don't like. The 1st amendment is for the

    ple... Federal government can't do a workaround by getting private companies

    carry their water.

    I agree. Twitter colluded with the Biden campaign before he was even
    elected.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Jul 7 18:55:00 2023
    Who knows what US Senators Sinema & Manchin discussed behind closed doors
    ith
    EOs at the WEF in Davos?

    Do we know for sure that they attended?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 7 19:04:00 2023
    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    Not me.... The problem with voting Democrat is that you almost always know
    ha
    you're going to get.

    National level, yes. Here locally we have had some Democrats that were
    pretty good state reps. There was never a Republican that impressed me
    more, so they got my vote. One retired. The Republican seemed better than
    the party-line Democrat that ran against her for the open seat, so then she
    got my vote.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Fri Jul 7 23:26:18 2023
    Clearly, MAGA Republicans are devotees of Trump and his like. I'd
    include the Freedom caucus of the House as being a sample. Also most of those who attend Trump rallies, chanting "lock her up" on cue, etc.

    Trump's not much different from other Republican leaders. America first. Defend the military. Don't have a stupid vice president. If there's any money left, save it.

    The thing that's different about Trump is that the globalists can't control him. If they could, then he'd be president right now, because it's cheaper to install the likeable guy than it is to install the segregationist guy.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jul 7 23:28:37 2023
    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump, was convicted
    of being in cahoots with Russia. After Trump was elected president,
    he pardoned Manafort for his crimes, thus proving the two of them
    were in cahoots with Russia. Verdict: GUILTY

    Nobody has done more for Russia than Biden. What interest does Russia have in installing Trump as president of the USA?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 7 23:41:35 2023
    Who knows what US Senators Sinema & Manchin discussed behind closed door
    ith
    EOs at the WEF in Davos?

    Do we know for sure that they attended?

    The media says they did, but they are closed-door meetings, so it's impossible to believe the media about the content discussed.

    Supposedly, "Joe Manchin called for American energy independence," but that doesn't add up because there's no need to travel across the world to discuss
    that with a bunch of CEOs. I haven't connected all the dots yet, but it's peculiar how it had to be "Manchin and Sinema." They have a history together.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 8 00:40:02 2023
    On 07-07-23 23:26, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    Trump's not much different from other Republican leaders.
    America first. Defend the military. Don't have a stupid
    vice president. If there's any money left, save it.

    The only President in my lifetime who decreased the national debt was a Democrat.

    Trump "defend the military"? Maybe only in some abstract sense, but
    given that he views those in the military, especially those who were
    POWs or KIA, as being stupid -- I don't think that he has much respect
    for the military.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 8 01:18:04 2023
    On 07-07-23 07:24, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Ib Joe about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    Good for you. In that way, we are alike. In my three score plus years
    of voting, I have voted for Republican Presidents many times (but not
    quite 50%) and for a Republican Governor.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 8 08:43:57 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    What you call the Elitists, I'm calling the Uni-Party... Both democrats and republicans who serve themselves and not the country.

    Yup. That's about right. While there are good people in both parties, both parties are controlled by the Elitists.

    We need term limits ... someone should sneak it in one of those 5000
    page bills they pass in the middle of the night without reading or debating it.

    We already have term limits, for the most part. What we need is career limits too.

    Too many of these swamp creatures are career politians who had several positions over the careers. We need to limit the number of years that they can be in any political office total.


    ... You're only young once. You're immature forever.
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 8 10:25:05 2023
    vice president. If there's any money left, save it.

    The only President in my lifetime who decreased the national debt was a Democrat.

    You're probably right about that, but I'm probably right to say that 99% of Republicans are on-board with Trump policies, and that calling them "MAGA"
    Republicans isn't as insulting as the media wants it to be.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 8 10:32:07 2023
    Too many of these swamp creatures are career politians who had several positions over the careers. We need to limit the number of years that they can be in any political office total.

    Another creature to watch out for is the "pathetic loser," which is a GOP candidate who "tried" running for office, but ran a weak campaign, lost, and then he steps out of the shadows later down the road to botch some other campaign - and sometimes these creatures accidentally win elections.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Jul 8 09:21:00 2023
    Trump "defend the military"? Maybe only in some abstract sense, but
    given that he views those in the military, especially those who were
    POWs or KIA, as being stupid -- I don't think that he has much respect
    for the military.

    I would argue that he appeared to have more respect than Obama, but would
    agree he seemed to have far less respect that previous Republicans and any President pre-Clinton.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 8 14:59:29 2023
    On 07 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I would agree, to a point. If it is something he did while campaigning for office, IMHO, it is not really too different than in office. If he did like Obama or Clinton and admitted to drug use while in college (or lied about it only for it to turn out to be true), I would agree with
    your statement that you should not remove them.

    If they did something really serious, like were found to have committed a murder, I would disagree. People in Massacheusetts would agree with you, though. At least they did back in the day when they kept voting Ted Kennedy into office.


    Okay... Impeach someone for murder... have a senate trial and if they vote 2/3rds and then he's out.... MY GOD!!!! ...Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors is the threshold... DO NOT lower the standard or we'll be impeaching or removing someone from office every other week.

    Some of this thread about kicking people out of office is related to Santos lying to get into office, like 90% of all politicians do.... I say if a politician embellishes oh his resume.... Ohhhh... Like Joe Biden has done in the past.... It's just politics... If the people keep voting him in even knowing he's a liar...

    About Ted.... He may have not "Murdered" someone back in 69... When I say murder I mean intentional homicide.... Definitely gross negligence... Ted throws on a neck brace makes a public statement and moves on... No public inquiry .... I read a quick article to bring myself up to speed...
    they said this about it...

    "But in 1969, the reverse proved true. The closing scene of Chappaquiddick features a bit of archival footage, from a man-on-the-street style interview in Boston. A reporter asks one person after another whether they would still consider voting for Kennedy after the Chappaquiddick accident. They answer, many resoundingly, with a yes."

    It's interesting what the political elites can get away with... Kill someone, spy on your political opponents.... Lawfair... charge your political opponents.... Whatever.... Lie about your spouses gender...

    If I ever get into trouble I'm just going to say I'm a democrat and I'm running for office.... If that doesn't work.... I'll just say I'm trans-gender!!!

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... A PC a day keeps the Apple away!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 8 15:09:40 2023
    On 07 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    National level, yes. Here locally we have had some Democrats that were pretty good state reps. There was never a Republican that impressed me more, so they got my vote. One retired. The Republican seemed better than the party-line Democrat that ran against her for the open seat, so then she got my vote.


    In around 1990 I tried to be liberal ... I was in University it was ~1990. I recall Desert Storm happened... Universities went on strike... and a few other things happened... long story... The president of the Student Union said something that made my brain snap...

    I tried and couldn't do it. I believe in a system of merit... a system where one's efforts are rewarded. Individual rights and liberties.

    Today's democrat parties policies are communist and socialist driven.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... I'm not a complete idiot... Several parts are missing!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 9 02:16:31 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    I stand corrected I would vote for RFK Jr. if it came between RFK Jr. and a
    non-Trump republican

    Does that rule out Mitt Romney?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 9 02:16:42 2023
    Hello Joe,

    What you want is Communism. Soviet-style. Have your "Party" install
    your master. Just like Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev, Andropov, and so many
    others did in the good old USSR did. Only your guys speaking English
    rather than Russian.

    I think I just found the source of the cocaine in the White House.... You need to lay off it....

    Snort it before you lose it.

    If you haven't got it...

    Too late. You missed your chance.

    I'm a small Federal government guy...

    Too late. It's all gone now. Maybe next time.

    If they were to reduce the Federal government down buy 75% I don't think it
    would be good enough.

    Thanks to President Biden, we now have full employment. Quite unlike
    the previous administration - when so many folks were unemployed, and needlessly dying of kung flu.

    I don't know if you know... but Communism the government likes complete control... total control.

    That is the goal of Trump and his MAGA nutjobs.

    I'm a 10th amendment kinda guy...

    So?

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or
    to the people."

    Really? What powers might those be? Please list them ...

    Small federal government... Larger State and Local...

    Where does the US Constitution mention anything about size?
    As long as state and local governments do not go outside the
    bounds of the US Constitution, they can do whatever the hell
    they want.

    As to your comments about Trump.... BEST president EVER!!!

    Joe Biden whipped his sorry ass by over 7 million votes in 2020.
    Even Hillary Clinton beat him by 3 million votes in 2016.
    If Republicans are stupid enough to nominate Trump in 2024, it
    will be a total disaster, with Trump becoming the first 3-time
    loser in US history.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 9 02:16:48 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    vice president. If there's any money left, save it.

    The only President in my lifetime who decreased the national debt was a
    Democrat.

    You're probably right about that, but I'm probably right to say that 99% of
    Republicans are on-board with Trump policies, and that calling them "MAGA" Republicans isn't as insulting as the media wants it to be.

    Bill Clinton left office with a surplus. Within eight months,
    before the events of 9/11, George W. Bush turned that surplus
    into a deficit.

    "Deficits don't matter." ~Dick Cheney

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 9 02:16:55 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Paul Manafort, campaign manager for Donald Trump, was convicted
    of being in cahoots with Russia. After Trump was elected president,
    he pardoned Manafort for his crimes, thus proving the two of them
    were in cahoots with Russia. Verdict: GUILTY

    Nobody has done more for Russia than Biden.

    Something tells me Biden and Putin are not the best of friends.

    What interest does Russia have in installing Trump as president of the USA?

    Trump is the puppet.
    Putin is the puppetmaster.
    Put the two together ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 9 02:17:06 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Too many of these swamp creatures are career politians who had several
    positions over the careers. We need to limit the number of years that
    they can be in any political office total.

    Another creature to watch out for is the "pathetic loser," which is a GOP candidate who "tried" running for office, but ran a weak campaign, lost, and then he steps out of the shadows later down the road to botch some other campaign - and sometimes these creatures accidentally win elections.

    Limiting the number of candidates who can run for office is both anti-democratic and un-American. Time to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

    "I am 198 years old." ~President Joe Biden

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 9 00:12:00 2023
    On 07-08-23 10:25, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    The only President in my lifetime who decreased the national debt was a Democrat.

    You're probably right about that, but I'm probably right to
    say that 99% of Republicans are on-board with Trump
    policies, and that calling them "MAGA"
    Republicans isn't as insulting as the media wants it to be.

    IMO, the term MAGA is a buzz word for the cult of Trump and does not
    stand for what the acronym equates to. For me, it means those who
    firmly believe in the big lie that Trump won the 2020 election as well
    as many of the other policies that Trump espoused, but never
    implemented. By no means does it include most Republicans, some
    estimates are that Trumps base is about 1/3 of the Republicans.

    What happened to the other 2/3? A few of them left the Republican party
    and are contributors to MSNBC. Others are just being quite (for now).

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 9 07:35:05 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Another creature to watch out for is the "pathetic loser," which is a
    GOP candidate who "tried" running for office, but ran a weak campaign, lost, and then he steps out of the shadows later down the road to botch some other campaign - and sometimes these creatures accidentally win elections.

    How is the "pathetic loser" any different from the other candidates? 8)

    But I would make the argument that when such a loser "wins" the election, something nefarious went on during the election to a certain extent.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 9 16:05:24 2023
    Hello Joe,

    In around 1990 I tried to be liberal ...

    If ten years under Reagan and Bush41 didn't convince you ...

    I was in University it was ~1990.

    Living the good life ... thanks to student loans ...

    I recall Desert Storm happened...

    Did you volunteer? Nah. Too much fun chasing skirts at university.

    Universities went on strike...

    OMG! No more pussy! What did you do then to have fun?

    and a few other things happened...

    Well, with no more pussy around be thankful you still had your hand.

    long story...

    Can't wait to hear it.

    The president of the Student Union said something that made my brain snap...

    He came out of the closet. Admitting he was a she.
    Or maybe it was a she who thought she was a he ...

    I tried and couldn't do it.

    Depends how you stroke it.

    I believe in a system of merit...

    Long strokes, short strokes, combination thereof, whatever works ...

    a system where one's efforts are rewarded.

    Yes! That's the ticket for success! Stroke on bro!

    Individual rights and liberties.

    Absolutely! Go for it!

    Today's democrat parties policies are communist and socialist driven.

    Worked for JFK.
    Worked for LBJ.
    Worked for Carter.
    Worked for Clinton.
    Worked for Obama.
    Works for Biden.
    Will work wonders for Kamala.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 9 08:11:00 2023
    "But in 1969, the reverse proved true. The closing scene of Chappaquiddick features a bit of archival footage, from a man-on-the-street style interview

    Boston. A reporter asks one person after another whether they would still
    ons
    er voting for Kennedy after the Chappaquiddick accident. They answer, many
    es
    ndingly, with a yes."

    That is sad, but since it was in Boston is not as surprising.

    It's interesting what the political elites can get away with... Kill someone, y on your political opponents.... Lawfair... charge your political
    pponents..
    Whatever.... Lie about your spouses gender...

    If I ever get into trouble I'm just going to say I'm a democrat and I'm
    unnin
    for office.... If that doesn't work.... I'll just say I'm trans-gender!!!

    That is a good idea! I may try that if I ever need it. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 9 08:16:00 2023
    In around 1990 I tried to be liberal ... I was in University it was ~1990. I call Desert Storm happened... Universities went on strike... and a few other

    ngs happened... long story... The president of the Student Union said
    omethin
    that made my brain snap...

    I was at university from 1988-1993, worked on campus the whole time, and...

    I tried and couldn't do it. I believe in a system of merit... a system where e's efforts are rewarded. Individual rights and liberties.

    Today's democrat parties policies are communist and socialist driven.

    ... that is why I could never be a Democrat. I was not real certain until
    I started meeting other students who identified as Democrats. While I
    believed at that time that most of our Democrat politicians were not
    communists or socialists, many of the students I met (often my age but
    also often career students) most certainly were and were proud to tell you
    so.

    That gave me an impression of where the future of the Democrats was going.
    As time has passed, I do not believe I was completely wrong there.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 9 12:41:27 2023
    Today's democrat parties policies are communist and socialist driven.

    We should tell our reps to wage a war against the media. The media is the cause of all this. I don't want any more propaganda broadcast over the airwaves in my city.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 9 12:45:18 2023
    Trump is the puppet.
    Putin is the puppetmaster.
    Put the two together ...

    Please explain to me how Putin controls Trump? I promise not to argue with you about it, and I won't criticize you about it, but I'd just like to know what the narrative is on that?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 9 12:47:41 2023
    Limiting the number of candidates who can run for office is both anti-democratic and un-American. Time to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

    I don't know what you mean there.

    "I am 198 years old." ~President Joe Biden

    But thanks for sharing that quote! I'm not the only person who heard that! Wasn't it hilarious when he said that? It gives weight to the reptilian theory.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Sun Jul 9 13:00:29 2023
    stand for what the acronym equates to. For me, it means those who
    firmly believe in the big lie that Trump won the 2020 election as well
    as many of the other policies that Trump espoused, but never
    implemented. By no means does it include most Republicans, some
    estimates are that Trumps base is about 1/3 of the Republicans.

    Nobody thinks that the 2020 election was stolen. Trump had us going there for a minute, when he claimed that there was a problem with the election, but it seems like he was wrong about that.

    If there are still any GOP members of congress out there supporting that old and unfounded claim, then I'd suspect them of RINOism, and they're trying to make the GOP look stupid intentionally (like Rep Marjorie from GA.).

    They want to make the claim now, so that way later on they can be proven wrong publicly, in front of the voters. It's all an elaborate set-up. I hate RINOs.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 9 13:11:04 2023
    Another creature to watch out for is the "pathetic loser," which is a GOP candidate who "tried" running for office, but ran a weak campaign lost, and then he steps out of the shadows later down the road to bot some other campaign - and sometimes these creatures accidentally win elections.

    How is the "pathetic loser" any different from the other candidates? 8)

    Democrats have their own military, and it's called "the media."

    Republicans don't have any defense against it, and it's called the "slaughter of the innocents."

    This is how RINOs get elected. I was just saw my rep in town ahead of his campaign last year and I saluted him and held up traffic for him while he crossed the street. And now he betrayed me by voting to protect Schiff.

    But I would make the argument that when such a loser "wins" the election, something nefarious went on during the election to a certain extent.

    In this case, I live in a Trump county. We have everything Republican for the most part. It didn't surprise me that he won, but it surprised me that he voted to protect Schiff. It's creepy and sickening to be misled by a RINO who's on a mission to protect endangered pencil-necks.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 9 13:08:00 2023
    On 09 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Joe,

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    I stand corrected I would vote for RFK Jr. if it came between RFK Jr. a
    non-Trump republican

    Does that rule out Mitt Romney?


    I don't think Mitt is running for President this round... and I would not vote for him... I think he may be primaried out this run around...

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    AKA Joe Schweier
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 10 00:15:00 2023
    On 07-09-23 13:00, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    Nobody thinks that the 2020 election was stolen. Trump had us going
    there for a minute, when he claimed that there was a problem with the election, but it seems like he was wrong about that.

    Of course he was wrong -- and he has been caught admitting that he knows
    it was not stolen. But he keeps repeating the Big Lie, perhaps hoping
    that he will stir up his base and that so of them actually believe what
    he says.

    If there are still any GOP members of congress out there
    supporting that old and unfounded claim, then I'd suspect
    them of RINOism, and they're trying to make the GOP look
    stupid intentionally (like Rep Marjorie from GA.).

    For me, such are really the RINOs -- but they are saying that the
    legitimate Republicans are RINOs.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 10 07:39:46 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I will never vote party again. I vote for a person only.

    I stand corrected I would vote for RFK Jr. if it came between
    RFK Jr.
    a
    non-Trump republican

    Does that rule out Mitt Romney?

    I don't think Mitt is running for President this round... and I would not vote for him... I think he may be primaried out this run around...

    Andrew Yang is trying to encourage politicians to run as third
    party candidates for president/vice president. And since Mitt Romney
    has the experience of having been the Republican nominee in 2012, he
    would be the perfect candidate for 2024. Just imagine the scenario.
    The first Mormon president of the United States, encouraging us all
    to inherit our own little planet ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 10 07:44:29 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Democrats have their own military, and it's called "the media."

    The media is the Democrat's Propaganda Ministry. Antifa is their military.

    Republicans don't have any defense against it, and it's called the "slaughter of the innocents."

    It's hard to defend yourself when all the "megaphones" are controlled by the enrmy. But they have defenses. They refuse to use it because most of them are spineless (by design of the Elite). Candice Owens, for example, smoked a congress-critter who, in a usual Elitist tactic, used one of her quote out of context. She showed the whole quote and basically showed him to be a liar.

    This is how RINOs get elected. I was just saw my rep in town ahead of
    his campaign last year and I saluted him and held up traffic for him
    while he crossed the street. And now he betrayed me by voting to
    protect Schiff.

    I had it out with my state Rep (who is now my senator) and why he didn't stand up to our Tyrant Gov. I basically showed that he failed Civics class in high school and shouldn't be in gov't.

    But he'll probably get elected again... Personally, I blame our schools and bad parenting for turing out adults that can't think for themselves.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 10 07:44:29 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    ... that is why I could never be a Democrat. I was not real certain until I started meeting other students who identified as Democrats.
    While I believed at that time that most of our Democrat politicians
    were not communists or socialists, many of the students I met (often my age but also often career students) most certainly were and were proud
    to tell you so.

    My experience was similar.

    Anyone I met who was stauchly a Democrat always seemed to be a loser who wanted

    1. something for free
    2. the gov't to force something on everyone


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Mon Jul 10 08:05:37 2023
    Of course he was wrong -- and he has been caught admitting that he knows it was not stolen. But he keeps repeating the Big Lie, perhaps hoping that he will stir up his base and that so of them actually believe what
    he says.

    His biggest mistake in that situation is that he said "I have proof." He should have just said "My term as president was sabotaged by Democrats, and my chances of getting re-elected were also sabotaged by Democrats." (Much more true and easier to prove!)

    stupid intentionally (like Rep Marjorie from GA.).

    For me, such are really the RINOs -- but they are saying that the legitimate Republicans are RINOs.

    That sounds like their sort of behavior. They didn't get elected to help us or to help legitimate Republicans.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 10 08:15:36 2023
    Democrats have their own military, and it's called "the media."

    The media is the Democrat's Propaganda Ministry. Antifa is their military.

    That's logical, but Antifa doesn't have soldiers working 24 hour shifts like the media does. The media stands guard, and makes sure that nobody says "Trump" with a smile on their face.

    Republicans don't have any defense against it, and it's called the "slaughter of the innocents."

    It's hard to defend yourself when all the "megaphones" are controlled by the enrmy. But they have defenses. They refuse to use it because most
    of them are spineless (by design of the Elite). Candice Owens, for

    The Republicans don't seem to own a single megaphone. People like Candace Owens should start pointing a fingers at these lackluster Republicans.

    one of her quote out of context. She showed the whole quote and
    basically showed him to be a liar.

    It sounds like it was one of the freshman. Established Democrats know better than to converse publicly with Candace Owens.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 10 08:28:23 2023
    We should tell our reps to wage a war against the media.

    They don't need to. The current media "empire" is only being propped up by the Elitists. But sooner or later, the money will run out.

    Most of us have already moved to alternative forms of news.

    But it's not just the news that propagates; it's everything that elites have access to. Sesame Street, Days of Our Lives, the radio, even Jeopardy and the Price is Right. Olivia Rodrigo said it best when she said "Vote for Biden, because I'm Olivia Rodrigo!"

    Ask a brainwashed leftist what the latest headlines on revolver.news are. They will look at you like you are the one who is nuts.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 10 08:31:43 2023
    Please explain to me how Putin controls Trump? I promise not to argue with you about it, and I won't criticize you about it, but I'd just like to know what the narrative is on that?

    Uh, oh! You should have put a trigger warning on that.

    You just asked an Ignorant Elitist to lay out an argument backed by
    facts. You should know by now that all they can do is chant the slogans that their masters tell them.

    Lee surprises me sometimes! Once in a while he makes some subtle comments that almost prove that he sees the truth. I think the Democrat thing is a front to impress some chick who's hovering over him while he's on the BBS.

    "Yes maam, I'm a Democrat."

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Jul 10 15:05:00 2023
    ... that is why I could never be a Democrat. I was not real certain until I started meeting other students who identified as Democrats. While I believed at that time that most of our Democrat politicians
    were not communists or socialists, many of the students I met (often my age but also often career students) most certainly were and were proud to tell you so.

    My experience was similar.

    Anyone I met who was stauchly a Democrat always seemed to be a loser who
    ante

    1. something for free
    2. the gov't to force something on everyone

    The "career students" were especially bad about these things.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jul 10 15:09:00 2023
    This is how RINOs get elected. I was just saw my rep in town ahead of his
    amp
    gn last year and I saluted him and held up traffic for him while he crossed
    h
    street. And now he betrayed me by voting to protect Schiff.

    Did he vote to protect Schiff, or did he refuse to vote yes on something
    that he knew would not hold up in court? We have a rep here in KY that
    voted against the original bill for that reason (it wouldn't hold up). He later voted for the version he believed would hold up in court.

    I think that was smart. No need to waste time and money on something you
    know won't work.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Jul 10 15:16:00 2023
    Please explain to me how Putin controls Trump? I promise not to argue with you about it, and I won't criticize you about it, but I'd just
    like to know what the narrative is on that?

    Uh, oh! You should have put a trigger warning on that.

    I am pretty sure whatever explanation that Aaron gets will be a conspiracy theory, except for the fact that it will be presented by a leftist, which somehow automatically disqualifies it from being a conspiracy theory.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 10 20:48:51 2023
    On 10 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    We should tell our reps to wage a war against the media.

    They don't need to. The current media "empire" is only being propped up by the Elitists. But sooner or later, the money will run out.
    Television Media - maybe that is a Empire with many kinds of different views and voices.
    Talk Radio at least in my market of Albany, New York is dominated by Conservative talk radio. No body cares about NPR Radio and the soft spoken creepy whisper speak that is put out on the airwaves.

    We don't have Cable TV but this by choice, might get it by the time Football Season rolls around. Gotta be watching my New York Jets.
    Excited for the Season w/ Aaron Rogers and all those weapons that he has.


    Most of us have already moved to alternative forms of news.
    True words spoken there.

    I haven't had the TV on for about 2 years now (other than to watch
    DVDs). I haven't listened to broadcast radio for at least 20 years now.
    I can listen to music - anything while I'm working as I am not on the phones and I am more on the processing side of things, so I listen to music 80's till 12pm or sometimes it's the Glenn Beck show at 9am Definitely tune in at twelve noon as it is the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Radio Show. (https://www.clayandbuck.com/)
    or
    (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-travis-and-sexton-57927691/)
    which took over for Rush Limbaugh. 12pm to 3pm Monday through Friday,
    I'm also a VIP (paid member).

    Wouldn't be wonderful if these guys Clay & Buck got up in here that would really light things up and why not they are on many different affiliates across the national spectrum, fidonet covers the entire globe.
    The libs could do the same, all is fair in love & war. I would think it would be fun with a evermore of a spirited debate w/ the biggest liberal voices.
    We would handle these lefty views w/ the greatest of ease, wouldn't even cause a bead of sweat.

    Also I'm looking to get into streaming, similar to the text version of what I bring to Fidonet in the politics echo but in audio, maybe video will come later.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 10 21:49:32 2023
    Did he vote to protect Schiff, or did he refuse to vote yes on something that he knew would not hold up in court? We have a rep here in KY that voted against the original bill for that reason (it wouldn't hold up).
    He later voted for the version he believed would hold up in court.

    I think that was smart. No need to waste time and money on something you know won't work.

    I'm not sure about my RINO but he has voted leftist on some other stuff too, so I don't forgive him for the Schiff censure.

    What does it mean when they "don't vote" on something that others have voted on? Is that like when they vote "present?"

    This guy didn't vote on a bill to house illegal immigrants in public schools, but he should have voted against the bill.

    He's also "not voting" on a bill to charge president Biden with crimes.

    I think that was smart. No need to waste time and money on something you know won't work.

    I guess not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I just think that the brainwashed community needs to hear and see Schiff going to court for being a big liar. Whether or not he goes to jail, I could care less.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Jul 10 22:13:44 2023
    Talk Radio at least in my market of Albany, New York is dominated by Conservative talk radio. No body cares about NPR Radio and the soft spoken creepy whisper speak that is put out on the airwaves.

    I get different broadcasts over here. I get Bongino, Hannity, then Mark Levin.

    Those 3 guys seem to know what's up. But they don't do enough about it. They "expose the left" a little, but why don't they organize protests or host fundraisers for candidates? (Lackluster)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 11 08:01:06 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The Republicans don't seem to own a single megaphone. People like
    Candace Owens should start pointing a fingers at these lackluster Republicans.

    They do. But remember that there is only 1 party. The Media doesn't want people like Candace to point out the problem in the Republican party because the Uniparty needs to keep up the pretext that there are 2 parties and that people have choice.

    As long as people think that there's a non-violent way out, that's the way they will go. As soon as the majority of the public believes that there is no non-violent way, things will get really bad for the Elitists.

    It sounds like it was one of the freshman. Established Democrats know better than to converse publicly with Candace Owens.

    That's why those Elitists will never publically debate period.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tue Jul 11 08:01:06 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Anyone I met who was stauchly a Democrat always seemed to be a loser who wanted:
    1. something for free
    2. the gov't to force something on everyone

    The "career students" were especially bad about these things.

    Well, ya. They are in an institution that's always telling them how smart they are. They don't have to actually produce anything. Etc.

    But they are scared of the real world because they will have to actually DO something and they may fail, and take the consequences.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Jul 11 08:01:06 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Television Media - maybe that is a Empire with many kinds of different views and voices. Talk Radio at least in my market of Albany, New York
    is dominated by Conservative talk radio. No body cares about NPR Radio and the soft spoken creepy whisper speak that is put out on the
    airwaves.

    I haven't had a long enough commute for the last couple of decades to really listen to talk radio. So I'm not sure what it's like in my area anymore.

    I know that Liberal Talk Radio was a flop because most people who listened to talk radio were people driving to some job. *grin*

    But the business model for anything broadcast is based on ears/eyeballs. No listeners, no advertisers, no income. And with the economy getting bad, the number of listeners and advertisers is going down. So I keep wondering how some of these stations stay in business. The only thing that comes to mind is that someone is basically propping them up financially.

    I can listen to music - anything while I'm working as I am not on the

    We do that too. But I long set up a system where I can listen to my music (not streamed from magic cloud) anywhere at anytime.

    I even did a cool project of modifying an old wood-case radio into something that played my music. I set up the Band knob to switch between genres.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 11 09:05:25 2023
    Candace Owens should start pointing a fingers at these lackluster Republicans.

    They do. But remember that there is only 1 party. The Media doesn't
    want people like Candace to point out the problem in the Republican
    party because the Uniparty needs to keep up the pretext that there are 2 parties and that people have choice.

    This brings closure to my complaint about Rona McDaniel being nothing more than a 9-5 gal who doesn't do much more than hold a title. That's all the uniparty needs her to do.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 11 09:09:58 2023
    Lee surprises me sometimes! Once in a while he makes some subtle comments that almost prove that he sees the truth. I think the Democr thing is a front to impress some chick who's hovering over him while he's on the BBS.

    I've always believed that, deep inside, they know what reality is. But they can't face it.

    They enjoy the sense of unity that they have with the media. They sleep good at night knowing that they did what Bon Jovi said to do.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Jul 11 15:35:00 2023
    What does it mean when they "don't vote" on something that others have voted

    Is that like when they vote "present?"

    I am not 100% sure, but I would guess that "didn't vote" could mean they
    voted "present," but I would also expect it to mean they were not there to
    vote at all. In other words, they were absent.

    I have not noticed it in recent years, but I know for several years it was common for a challenger to point out how often an incumbent missed votes, especially important ones.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Tue Jul 11 23:57:42 2023
    What does it mean when they "don't vote" on something that others have MP> > v

    Is that like when they vote "present?"

    I am not 100% sure, but I would guess that "didn't vote" could mean they voted "present," but I would also expect it to mean they were not there
    to vote at all. In other words, they were absent.

    I have not noticed it in recent years, but I know for several years it
    was common for a challenger to point out how often an incumbent missed votes, especially important ones.

    Thank you for that explanation. I think you're right about this, and I think it should be a crime for a US rep to be "absent." "My tummy hurts,
    so I can't go to work today and I'll be absent for the vote on whether or not to save my country."

    This RINO in question (Mark Molinaro) also voted against tariffs on China. There's no doubt that he needs to go. I need to find out who to complain to, because we need a primary election.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 12 07:56:03 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    This brings closure to my complaint about Rona McDaniel being nothing
    more than a 9-5 gal who doesn't do much more than hold a title. That's
    all the uniparty needs her to do.

    Exactly. She's there to help create the illusion of a 2 party system - but only for those who can't think for themselves. And that group is getting smaller every day - or should I say "every scandal".


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Wed Jul 12 07:56:03 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    I am not 100% sure, but I would guess that "didn't vote" could mean
    they voted "present," but I would also expect it to mean they were not there to vote at all. In other words, they were absent.

    "Didn't vote" should mean that they were absent.
    Voting "present" should mean that they were there and votes, but didn't vote for either side.

    Back in school, we would have said "abstain" instead of "present". But I guess the Elitists don't like abstinence. 8)

    I have not noticed it in recent years, but I know for several years it
    was common for a challenger to point out how often an incumbent missed votes, especially important ones.

    Hence the new terms so the incumbent can point out proof that he was there and did, indded, vote.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Wed Jul 12 07:18:00 2023
    I am not 100% sure, but I would guess that "didn't vote" could mean
    they voted "present," but I would also expect it to mean they were not there to vote at all. In other words, they were absent.

    "Didn't vote" should mean that they were absent.
    Voting "present" should mean that they were there and votes, but didn't vote for either side.

    That is my understanding also but I don't know for sure if that is the understanding of the source where Aaron found that info.

    Back in school, we would have said "abstain" instead of "present". But I
    ues
    the Elitists don't like abstinence. 8)

    LOL, yeah, I bet not.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Thu Jul 13 15:13:34 2023
    more than a 9-5 gal who doesn't do much more than hold a title. That' all the uniparty needs her to do.

    Exactly. She's there to help create the illusion of a 2 party system - but only for those who can't think for themselves. And that group is getting smaller every day - or should I say "every scandal".

    It's Trump or nothing; nobody else is ever going to care about this country ever again. I think that is what's meant by "Trump: The Last President."

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Thu Jul 13 15:20:26 2023
    "Didn't vote" should mean that they were absent.

    Like they took a vacation day or something? And the rest of the GOP- controlled house couldn't make phone calls to make sure all their constituents would be there for an important vote?

    They suck so bad at everything!

    While the Democrats have nearly mastered mind-control, the Republicans are still learning to use the telephone.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 13 13:28:42 2023
    On 13 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It's Trump or nothing; nobody else is ever going to care about this country ever again. I think that is what's meant by "Trump: The Last President."


    Mount Rushmore here we come...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 14 01:15:02 2023
    It's Trump or nothing; nobody else is ever going to care about this country ever again. I think that is what's meant by "Trump: The Last President."


    Mount Rushmore here we come...

    I think we can squeeze him in!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 14 07:39:01 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Like they took a vacation day or something? And the rest of the GOP- controlled house couldn't make phone calls to make sure all their constituents would be there for an important vote?

    They suck so bad at everything!

    No argument from me.

    My current state senator (Republican) doesn't even know basic civics.

    It's like every gov't official is evil or totally incompetent.

    While the Democrats have nearly mastered mind-control, the Republicans
    are still learning to use the telephone.

    Sadly, very accurate.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 14 19:34:32 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    It's Trump or nothing; nobody else is ever going to care about
    this
    country ever again. I think that is what's meant by "Trump: The
    Last
    President."


    Mount Rushmore here we come...

    I think we can squeeze him in!

    Maybe on the back side. If the Indians let him. Or scalp him first.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jul 14 16:16:39 2023
    Mount Rushmore here we come...

    I think we can squeeze him in!

    Maybe on the back side. If the Indians let him. Or scalp him first.

    Natives are conservatives. They know what's up. They don't like Joe's tens of millions of illegals deal.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 14 17:20:36 2023
    On 14 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Mount Rushmore here we come...

    I think we can squeeze him in!


    Tucker is interviewing a lot of the GOP candidates right now online... Some of them are shooting themselves in the foot... I love Vivek Ramaswamy... Best answers yet to Tucker.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 14 21:03:24 2023
    Tucker is interviewing a lot of the GOP candidates right now online... Some of them are shooting themselves in the foot... I love Vivek Ramaswamy... Best answers yet to Tucker.

    Yea I like that guy too. He's using his brain.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 15:05:03 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Mount Rushmore here we come...

    I think we can squeeze him in!

    Maybe on the back side. If the Indians let him. Or scalp him first.

    Natives are conservatives. They know what's up. They don't like Joe's tens of millions of illegals deal.

    What's it to them? It is the White Man who are the illegals ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 10:07:15 2023
    On 14 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Some of them are shooting themselves in the foot... I love Vivek Ramaswamy... Best answers yet to Tucker.

    Yea I like that guy too. He's using his brain.


    Anyway, I found a long version of what Tucker did, not just broken down into segments... 6 or more hours

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 15 15:33:40 2023
    Natives are conservatives. They know what's up. They don't like Joe's of millions of illegals deal.

    What's it to them? It is the White Man who are the illegals ...

    It doesn't matter what was legal when ancient people were alive, it matters what happens to people who are alive right now.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 15 15:36:54 2023
    Ramaswamy... Best answers yet to Tucker.

    Yea I like that guy too. He's using his brain.


    Anyway, I found a long version of what Tucker did, not just broken down into segments... 6 or more hours

    Can you post a link to it if you get a chance? (Sorry if you already did and I missed it.)

    Trying to watch it all on Twitter sucks.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 15:34:15 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Can you post a link to it if you get a chance? (Sorry if you already did and I missed it.)

    Trying to watch it all on Twitter sucks.


    Youtube has some links... MAN-O-MAN, off all the Republicans that came... only 2 did well... the rest were exposed as RINOs or Idiots... The 2 that did well were Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron Desanctimonious.

    Here are some highlights

    Pence shooting himself in the foot
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74K8_3VzT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmeg-vAJL0&t=17s

    Search YouTube
    Tucker Carlson Grills 2024 GOP Candidates At Family Leadership Summit
    or just Tucker in Iowa will yield you some results

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 15 18:23:17 2023
    Here are some highlights

    Pence shooting himself in the foot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74K8_3VzT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmeg-vAJL0&t=17s

    Thanks. Trump is still missing. Is Tucker saving him for last?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 18:50:24 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Thanks. Trump is still missing. Is Tucker saving him for last?


    I heard... Trump is playing the long game. Because of his lead he doesn't want to spend the energy in it... He has everything to lose, nothing to gain... I heard that he was going to wait for the herd to thin out a little

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 15 21:38:10 2023
    Thanks. Trump is still missing. Is Tucker saving him for last?


    I heard... Trump is playing the long game. Because of his lead he
    doesn't want to spend the energy in it... He has everything to lose, nothing to gain... I heard that he was going to wait for the herd to
    thin out a little

    Sounds legit. Trump knows best. But I doubt that any of those other candidates have the energy to defeat him anyway.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 20:24:48 2023
    Pence shooting himself in the foot
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74K8_3VzT8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmeg-vAJL0&t=17s

    Thanks. Trump is still missing. Is Tucker saving him for last?

    Trump is not missing. He's busy these days spinning up fresh conspiracies to rile up his base.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 16 15:29:22 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Natives are conservatives. They know what's up. They don't like
    Joe's
    of millions of illegals deal.

    What's it to them? It is the White Man who are the illegals ...

    It doesn't matter what was legal when ancient people were alive, it matters
    what happens to people who are alive right now.

    Braves have tomahawks.
    Use tomahawks to get scalps.
    Use scalps to make blankets.
    Use blankets to keep warm.
    Braves (and Squaws) love White Man.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 16 13:23:20 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Sounds legit. Trump knows best. But I doubt that any of those other candidates have the energy to defeat him anyway.


    I think there will be a few dropping out before the August debate... Pence, Asa and Nikki based on their Tucker performance.

    My spidy sense is tingling about Vivek... He spoke at West Palm Beach on Saturday and he was full of energy, like a Baptist minister...

    It's early in the game, we'll have to see what's going to be out there in a few short months... Tucker was RINO hunting and I think he made a few kills.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 16 21:57:21 2023
    Pence shooting himself in the foot
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74K8_3VzT8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmeg-vAJL0&t=17s

    Thanks. Trump is still missing. Is Tucker saving him for last?

    Trump is not missing. He's busy these days spinning up fresh
    conspiracies to rile up his base.

    Tucker Carlson is interviewing all the Republican presidential candidates to figure out which ones are RINOs, but Trump didn't participate just yet.

    Trump doesn't "spin anything up." He's right about everything he says. The media is full of it. How can you trust the media?? They exploit black, gay, and now hispanic people on a daily basis. Is that socially acceptable behavior in your social circle?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 16 22:46:34 2023
    I think there will be a few dropping out before the August debate... Pence, Asa and Nikki based on their Tucker performance.

    My spidy sense is tingling about Vivek... He spoke at West Palm Beach on Saturday and he was full of energy, like a Baptist minister...

    It's hard to trust anyone besides Trump. These other guys just emerged from out of nowhere. Trump can't even get a decent running mate because everyone just sucks so bad.

    It's early in the game, we'll have to see what's going to be out there
    in a few short months... Tucker was RINO hunting and I think he made a
    few kills.

    The meme of Tucker as the grim reaper is funny!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 17 11:46:36 2023
    On 16 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It's hard to trust anyone besides Trump. These other guys just emerged from out of nowhere. Trump can't even get a decent running mate because everyone just sucks so bad.


    There are a lot to chose from... From the right... Kari Lake, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tim Scott... and the one I hope he pulls the trigger on... Vivek Ramaswamy <---- this guy shines in debate answers, is a strong America First supporter. These are all good people who can fight and defend the America First agenda.

    There has even been talks about RFK Jr. or Tulsi Gabbard, she recently left the Democrat party because of its Marxist turn.

    I know if Trump chose the latter it would bring more Democrats to vote for him... He might as well get Mike Pence back as VP... or some other RINO for that matter... I think they should review the 2nd amendment ... take out most of the wording and just leave the part that says "Shall Not Be Infringed"... If you have a RINO or a Democrat... they'll be talking about common sense gun control.


    The meme of Tucker as the grim reaper is funny!


    :) The right has a sense of humor

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 21 16:16:30 2023
    There has even been talks about RFK Jr. or Tulsi Gabbard, she recently left the Democrat party because of its Marxist turn.

    I know if Trump chose the latter it would bring more Democrats to vote
    for him... He might as well get Mike Pence back as VP... or some other

    The leftists are still leftists - I don't think that moderates are a real thing. A headline reading "Trump partners with former Democrat" would frustrate me.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 21 21:34:50 2023
    On 21 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    The leftists are still leftists - I don't think that moderates are a real thing. A headline reading "Trump partners with former Democrat" would frustrate me.


    That's the way I think too... If Trump was to ask RFK Jr in as a VP... He might just as well ask Pence. I would like to see someone who can argue conservative points without folding.... Vivek, Kari Lake or MTG. I don't think Trump will need a moderate by the next election after Binden's economy is in a recession/depression ... There's a 3rd world war... and the like. I'm not sure, hopeful, that he'll be in office by the end of this year the way things are working out with the House investigation.

    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure they can hold their nose to vote for Biden again.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 22 07:49:31 2023
    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure
    they can hold their nose to vote for Biden again.

    Mike has said before that he too believes that moderates exist. I hope you guys are right about that. I just don't personally know any.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 22 08:48:07 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    The leftists are still leftists - I don't think that moderates are a
    real thing. A headline reading "Trump partners with former Democrat"
    would frustrate me.

    It depends on the Democrat.

    Surprisingly, there are some Democrats that are good. But most of them have left the party. Or, as they put it, their party left them.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 22 08:48:07 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    That's the way I think too... If Trump was to ask RFK Jr in as a VP...
    He might just as well ask Pence.

    I'd trust RFK Jr. more than I trust Pence. While I may not agree with everything RFK Jr. said, at least he sticks with what he says.

    I would like to see someone who can
    argue conservative points without folding.... Vivek, Kari Lake or MTG.

    Vivek would be a good choice. Kari would be good, but I think she holds more value right now in Arizona. MTG probably wouldn't want the job.

    I don't think Trump will need a moderate by the next election after Binden's economy is in a recession/depression ... There's a 3rd world war... and the like. I'm not sure, hopeful, that he'll be in office by the end of this year the way things are working out with the House investigation.

    That would be nice.

    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure
    they can hold their nose to vote for Biden again.

    Based on Biden's awful polling, you are probably right.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Jul 22 10:11:00 2023
    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure they can ld their nose to vote for Biden again.

    I think what will cause people to vote for Biden is their view of Trump.
    In 2016, Trump's message played well to Independents and undecideds. In
    2020, he pulled a Hillary and spent too much time preaching to his own choir.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 22 10:42:11 2023
    On 22 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure they can hold their nose to vote for Biden again.

    Mike has said before that he too believes that moderates exist. I hope
    you guys are right about that. I just don't personally know any.


    I personally don't know of any either... Ever since Barry & Mike hit the scene moderates are as scarce as hen's teeth. Maybe they are just being quiet because they don't want to get canceled buy the left.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 22 10:50:37 2023
    On 22 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I would like to see someone who can
    argue conservative points without folding.... Vivek, Kari Lake or MTG

    Vivek would be a good choice. Kari would be good, but I think she holds more value right now in Arizona. MTG probably wouldn't want the job.


    Who knows who he'll pick... When asked about RFK Jr. ... He said that he reads the same articles as the reporter reads... I think RFK Jr. is better for a cabinet position than a VP... and thank GOD that republicans place people based on merit .... and thank GOD that we have great people on the republican side that have vagina(s) and are not white supremacists... Like Vivek...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 22 10:57:14 2023
    On 22 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    I do think there's a lot of moderates out there... I'm not even sure the ld their nose to vote for Biden again.

    I think what will cause people to vote for Biden is their view of Trump. In 2016, Trump's message played well to Independents and undecideds. In 2020, he pulled a Hillary and spent too much time preaching to his own choir.


    Well... When they come after the Independents children and with their woke ideology you might loose them. My argument is an easy one... If the Democrats keep going in the direction they are going it'll push more and more people to the right.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 22 15:05:25 2023
    real thing. A headline reading "Trump partners with former Democrat" would frustrate me.

    It depends on the Democrat.

    Surprisingly, there are some Democrats that are good. But most of them have left the party. Or, as they put it, their party left them.

    I want that to be true, but who are you referring to?

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 23 00:26:04 2023
    On 07-22-23 08:48, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Ib Joe about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    That's the way I think too... If Trump was to ask RFK Jr in as a VP...
    He might just as well ask Pence.

    I'd trust RFK Jr. more than I trust Pence. While I may not agree with everything RFK Jr. said, at least he sticks with what he says.

    In the recent hearing RFK Jr. strongly disagreed with his previous
    statements on several subjects.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 23 08:31:28 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Surprisingly, there are some Democrats that are good. But most of them have left the party. Or, as they put it, their party left them.

    I want that to be true, but who are you referring to?

    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent woman congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right now).

    The "WalkAway" movement has been around for a number of years now. You don't see much of it because the Media suppresses it. But people were posting videos on YouTube about how the Dems left them.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 23 08:31:28 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Well... When they come after the Independents children and with their
    woke ideology you might loose them. My argument is an easy one... If
    the Democrats keep going in the direction they are going it'll push
    more and more people to the right.

    At the North Pole, all directions are South.

    The Democrat Party keeps moving further and further to the Left. They aren't "pushing" people anywhere. But that line between "Right" and "Left" keeps moving toward the "Left".

    It's funny to think that if JFK was alive and running for President today, he's be a Right Wing Extremist to the Media.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 23 15:10:05 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    There has even been talks about RFK Jr. or Tulsi Gabbard, she recently
    left the Democrat party because of its Marxist turn.

    I know if Trump chose the latter it would bring more Democrats to vote
    for him... He might as well get Mike Pence back as VP... or some other

    The leftists are still leftists -

    Pence was a plant. Now that he has been exposed for who he is, he
    is running for the top job himself. But who is going to vote for a
    guy who gave the game away to the fellow in charge today?

    I don't think that moderates are a real thing.

    Pence and Biden were in cahoots from the get-go ...

    A headline reading "Trump partners with former Democrat" would frustrate me.

    George Wallace is dead. But George Wallace III is very much alive
    and well. And has never been a Democrat (former or otherwise).

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 23 07:53:00 2023
    I think what will cause people to vote for Biden is their view of Trump. In 2016, Trump's message played well to Independents and undecideds. In 2020, he pulled a Hillary and spent too much time preaching to his own choir.

    Well... When they come after the Independents children and with their woke
    de
    ogy you might loose them. My argument is an easy one... If the Democrats
    eep
    oing in the direction they are going it'll push more and more people to the
    i
    t.

    Indeed they will!


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 23 11:35:34 2023
    have left the party. Or, as they put it, their party left them.

    I want that to be true, but who are you referring to?

    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent woman congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right now).

    I read that she "endorsed Biden." There's nothing good about that.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 23 11:48:03 2023
    The leftists are still leftists -

    Pence was a plant. Now that he has been exposed for who he is, he
    is running for the top job himself. But who is going to vote for a
    guy who gave the game away to the fellow in charge today?

    You're right, and especially about the "plant" thing. I think he was developed in a lab, and there was a lab-leak at some point. He seems to have escaped before the brain was fully developed.

    I regret playing-down the fly-on-the-face incident. Humans don't let flies crawl on their faces.

    Pence and Biden were in cahoots from the get-go ...

    Absolutely. When the hens from The View start clucking for a Republican, it's obvious that something's up.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 23 10:30:09 2023
    On 23 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    At the North Pole, all directions are South.

    The Democrat Party keeps moving further and further to the Left. They aren't "pushing" people anywhere. But that line between "Right" and "Left" keeps moving toward the "Left".


    My good sir... The left is moving more left, but the center-leff, center-right and the right haven't moved. I think some in the current Democratic party are quiet so as not to get canceled by the activist left.

    You keep hearting stories like this... People changing to Republican because they feel the Democrat Party as of late have abandoned them...

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1682016578701783040


    It's funny to think that if JFK was alive and running for President
    today, he's be a Right Wing Extremist to the Media.


    Yup... The left have been playing the long game trying to corrupt the culture... I think Americans are catching on though.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 24 00:23:05 2023
    Hello Ron,


    At the North Pole, all directions are South.

    I like that!

    The Democrat Party keeps moving further and further to the Left.

    Bernie Sanders keeps trying. And so does AOC. And with a little
    more help, both will get us there.

    They aren't "pushing" people anywhere.

    They have led by example, and continue to do so.

    But that line between "Right" and "Left" keeps moving toward the "Left".

    Of course it does. Which is one of the reasons why Biden swamped
    Trump by over 7 million votes in the 2020 election.

    It's funny to think that if JFK was alive and running for President today, he's be a Right Wing Extremist to the Media.

    JFK looked mighty good in that televised debate with Nixon.
    And won the 1960 presidential election as a result.

    And then came LBJ swamping Barry Goldwater in a landslide in 1964.

    JFK would be 106 years old. Which would make him 8 years older than
    Jimmy Carter, not to mention Bill Clinton, another Southerner who won
    the White House.

    Maybe that's the ticket for Democrats. Nominate another "Right Wing
    Extremist" - like Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards - for POTUS.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ib Joe on Mon Jul 24 00:53:02 2023
    On 07-23-23 10:30, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Ron L. about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    You keep hearting stories like this... People changing to
    Republican because they feel the Democrat Party as of late
    have abandoned them...

    And some have moved in the opposite direction.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 24 07:28:50 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent woman congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right now).

    I read that she "endorsed Biden." There's nothing good about that.

    Nope. Which is why I still don't trust anything she says. But, still, she left the Democratic party.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 24 07:28:50 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yup... The left have been playing the long game trying to corrupt the culture... I think Americans are catching on though.

    The "long game" is certainly the correct term here. It's the old story of the frog in the pot.

    If you dump the frog in to a pot of boiling water, he'll jump out immediately. But if you put the frog in a pot of room temp water and then turn up the heat slowly, he'll let himself be cooked to death.

    Trump made the Elitists turn up the heat too much and we all noticed.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dale Shipp on Mon Jul 24 07:37:02 2023
    On 24 Jul 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 07-23-23 10:30, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Ron L. about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    You keep hearting stories like this... People changing to
    Republican because they feel the Democrat Party as of late
    have abandoned them...

    And some have moved in the opposite direction.


    And that's good for them... It's good to expose all this..

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 24 07:43:51 2023
    On 24 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yup... The left have been playing the long game trying to corrupt the culture... I think Americans are catching on though.

    The "long game" is certainly the correct term here. It's the old story
    of the frog in the pot.

    If you dump the frog in to a pot of boiling water, he'll jump out immediately. But if you put the frog in a pot of room temp water and
    then turn up the heat slowly, he'll let himself be cooked to death.

    Trump made the Elitists turn up the heat too much and we all noticed.



    Early 1900, Woodrow Wilson being the main culprit... John D. Rockefeller... A lot of changes... Federal Reserve was added, and should not have been. Every year changes are made little by little until a few decades later things are unrecognizable....

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jul 24 15:48:00 2023
    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent woman congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right now).

    I read that she "endorsed Biden." There's nothing good about that.

    Recently?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Jul 24 16:07:00 2023
    Early 1900, Woodrow Wilson being the main culprit... John D. Rockefeller...

    ot of changes... Federal Reserve was added, and should not have been. Every

    r changes are made little by little until a few decades later things are
    nrec
    nizable....

    I have heard others claim that a lot of the issues we have now have their
    roots in Wilson's term as President. I know he had some to do with the
    racist policies used in the military during WWI, and the policies that returning black troops had to deal with afterwards.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 24 18:07:49 2023
    On 24 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I have heard others claim that a lot of the issues we have now have their roots in Wilson's term as President. I know he had some to do with the racist policies used in the military during WWI, and the policies that returning black troops had to deal with afterwards.


    Woodrow was the man who implemented the Federal Reserve, I heard he had regrets after. The whole progressive movement can be traced back to him. This is where the progressives started playing the long game... Changing school curriculum... slowly making changes so that decades later you had no clue how they got there.

    It's been told that Rockefeller funded the womens movement... not because he felt their rights needed attending too... but rather he felt women could work, be taxed and consume... While both parents are working and not tending with their kids the school system will slowly reprogram them.

    Things are relative.... If you're asked who was the best/worst president... a lot of people look in recent history to give their answers. I always argued Woodrow was the worst president.... In walks Joe Biden... says Hold my ice-cream.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 24 21:30:40 2023
    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent wo congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right no

    I read that she "endorsed Biden." There's nothing good about that.

    Nope. Which is why I still don't trust anything she says. But, still, she left the Democratic party.

    Who has left the Democrat party and actually voted conservative on stuff?

    Rep Jeff Van Drew is the only one I know about. He switched from Democrat to Republican and he voted awesomely:

    https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/24685/jeff-van-drew

    He even voted to censure Adam Schiff. Pretty good guy. But who else? He's the only one I think.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 24 21:51:08 2023
    Off the top of my head, there's Tulsi Gabbard. There was a recent congress-critter who switch (sorry, I can't find the article right

    I read that she "endorsed Biden." There's nothing good about that.

    Recently?

    According to NBC News (and others) she endorsed Biden after she ended her presidential run.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/tulsi-gabbard-ends-presidential- run-endorses-biden-n1163851

    She might have buyer's remorse by now, but I doubt it. Seems more like bitterness.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ib Joe on Mon Jul 24 22:23:14 2023
    On 24 Jul 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...
    On 24 Jul 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 07-23-23 10:30, Ib Joe <=-
    spoke to Ron L. about Re: GARLAND IMPEACHMENT <=-

    You keep hearting stories like this... People changing to
    Republican because they feel the Democrat Party as of late
    have abandoned them...

    And some have moved in the opposite direction.
    Who is he kidding, and if they are it's not Biden, that the Democrats are supporting that's for sure, RFK Jr. maybe or perhaps they are hoping that Gruesome Newsom might toss his hat into the mix, but Biden/ and that
    "word salad" Harris. I seriously doubt it. Many have doubts that Biden will even be on the ticket. If he is I'll be sure to get Redenbacher's Popcorn for
    that throwdown debate between Trump / Biden.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 25 08:19:53 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Who has left the Democrat party and actually voted conservative on
    stuff?

    I have to admit that I really don't keep track.

    As far as I'm concerned, there are no "Democrat" and "Republican" parties. There's only the Uniparty with two shadows that give some people the illusion that there is choice.

    What I do see are plenty of average people who are no longer Democrats. Some are very vocal about it. But some still say that they are Democrats, but are very quiet where they used to be very vocal - making me think that they are not really voting Democrat anymore.

    He even voted to censure Adam Schiff. Pretty good guy. But who else?
    He's the only one I think.

    In the gov't, ya, we won't find many. Too many of those people are in the Uniparty. And too many are useless and can't find a job anywhere else. Changing parties usually means that they won't get reelected.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Jul 25 09:04:18 2023
    On 24 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...


    And some have moved in the opposite direction.
    Who is he kidding, and if they are it's not Biden, that the Democrats are supporting that's for sure, RFK Jr. maybe or perhaps they are hoping that Gruesome Newsom might toss his hat into the mix, but Biden/ and that "word salad" Harris. I seriously doubt it. Many have doubts that Biden will even be on the ticket. If he is I'll be sure to get Redenbacher's Popcorn for that throwdown debate between Trump / Biden.


    My good Sir... I really don't think Joe will be around by years end... I think they are throwing him under the bus. I saw something on the News that made me scratch my head... Trump and Obama had spent over $10++ million by this time in their attempts to be re-elected. Biden has spent $1.?? million. There is NO campaign office or support staff for the re-election.

    The elites cannot loose power... If Trump gets back in and does some investigating into corruption it'll be all over for them...

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    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Jul 25 15:29:00 2023
    According to NBC News (and others) she endorsed Biden after she ended her
    res
    ential run.

    I think her thoughts about him may have changed since then. I don't think
    she is very fond of him.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Jul 25 15:53:00 2023
    Who has left the Democrat party and actually voted conservative on stuff?

    Rep Jeff Van Drew is the only one I know about. He switched from Democrat to

    ublican and he voted awesomely:

    https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/24685/jeff-van-drew

    He even voted to censure Adam Schiff. Pretty good guy. But who else? He's the ly one I think.

    There has been another one recently who made news because she is a woman of color. IIRC, she is a Georgia or maybe South Carolina state legislator.
    She was tired of how other legislators of her own party were treating her.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Tue Jul 25 19:28:18 2023
    And some have moved in the opposite direction.
    Who is he kidding, and if they are it's not Biden, that the Democrats
    supporting that's for sure, RFK Jr. maybe or perhaps they are hoping t
    Gruesome Newsom might toss his hat into the mix, but Biden/ and that "word salad" Harris. I seriously doubt it. Many have doubts that Biden
    will even be on the ticket. If he is I'll be sure to get Redenbacher's
    Popcorn for that throwdown debate between Trump / Biden.

    My good Sir... I really don't think Joe will be around by years end... I think they are throwing him under the bus. I saw something on the News that made me scratch my head... Trump and Obama had spent over $10++ million by this time in their attempts to be re-elected. Biden has
    spent $1.?? million. There is NO campaign office or support staff for
    the re-election.

    The elites cannot loose power... If Trump gets back in and does some investigating into corruption it'll be all over for them...

    To coin a phrase it will be BIG LEAGUE, Trump will be like a Wrecking Ball! Others on the left get hung up on word semantics like under and because..

    "At this point, what difference does it make!"
    - Hillary R. Clinton

    The left gets into the weeds with Trump's crowd size vs Biden supporters who are all within their own painted white circle just large enough for one person and naturally they are six feet apart.
    Nearly a total of 60 people at a Biden venue, vs Trumps thousands of people. Biden rally consists of listening to a politician who has mumbling speech and yet these Democratic imbeciles clap applaud as if they understood him?
    The Same thing happens to a larger degree anytime this man attempts speech.
    It was suggested that Joe Biden has a stuttering problem? That might be true but THAT is a rather a poor excuse and IT is also provided as a cover for what is really happening.

    Biden has a BIG cognitive issue and it is getting worse.
    This can be plainly seen with prior videos of him where he is talking fine and then there is the recent videos. The comparison shows the truth.
    Speed of speech, the pitch & tone are different as well.
    Now all we get on occasion is Biden leaning into the mic and out comes a creepy whisper. Seriously?

    Biden's cognitive decline is very apparent. What is more troubling is that this is ignored by his handlers and it has been for a long time time ignored by the main stream media.
    If Trump spoke like this it would mean a one way ticket to Walter Reed..

    Why is it at a Biden Rally there is no chanting USA! USA! USA!
    Could it be that they despise America?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 25 19:24:33 2023
    As far as I'm concerned, there are no "Democrat" and "Republican"
    parties. There's only the Uniparty with two shadows that give some
    people the illusion that there is choice.

    There are people in office who have voted on stuff that way I wanted them to. Those people were not guided by Uniparty. We need more people like them.

    Rep Claudia Tenney (R-NY) is a good lady. She votes conservatively. She was the rep for my district until recent redistricting took place. The Uniparty created a new district and then installed POS Marcus Molinaro.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 26 13:41:13 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    The leftists are still leftists -

    Pence was a plant. Now that he has been exposed for who he is, he
    is running for the top job himself. But who is going to vote for a
    guy who gave the game away to the fellow in charge today?

    You're right, and especially about the "plant" thing. I think he was developed in a lab, and there was a lab-leak at some point. He seems to have escaped before the brain was fully developed.

    Now that he has been caught out he is trying to change his tune,
    claiming Trump might not be guilty of having committed any crimes
    on January 6. In which case, he would like to change his vote to
    certify the election ...

    I regret playing-down the fly-on-the-face incident. Humans don't let flies crawl on their faces.

    Pence had his chance. Live and on stage. Just like Obama.
    And we all know what Obama did, as the entire nation saw him
    do it. With one swat, right on target, that fly was *DEAD*!

    What a sissy. Pence just stood there. With that fly crawling
    all over his face. And into his snow white hair. And everybody
    could see it. And then it happened. Pence choked, having only
    one thought on his mind -

    "Holy Jeezus, there's a fly in my face!"

    Yep. Pence missed his Obama moment.

    Pence and Biden were in cahoots from the get-go ...

    Absolutely. When the hens from The View start clucking for a Republican, it's obvious that something's up.

    You do realize both Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren used
    to be Republicans. Just imagine what would happen if they team
    up together, and shock the world by wearing red, as they once
    did in their younger years.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jul 26 07:45:01 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There are people in office who have voted on stuff that way I wanted
    them to. Those people were not guided by Uniparty. We need more people like them.

    Which is why I no longer vote party. I vote person.

    Rep Claudia Tenney (R-NY) is a good lady. She votes conservatively. She was the rep for my district until recent redistricting took place. The Uniparty created a new district and then installed POS Marcus Molinaro.

    Similar shenanigans are going on here in Michigan. The Elitists in power are illegally changing election rules to keep them in power.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Jul 26 09:56:33 2023
    On 25 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...


    To coin a phrase it will be BIG LEAGUE, Trump will be like a Wrecking Ball! Others on the left get hung up on word semantics like under and because..

    "At this point, what difference does it make!"
    - Hillary R. Clinton

    The left gets into the weeds with Trump's crowd size vs Biden supporters who are all within their own painted white circle just large enough for one person and naturally they are six feet apart.
    Nearly a total of 60 people at a Biden venue, vs Trumps thousands of people. Biden rally consists of listening to a politician who has
    mumbling speech and yet these Democratic imbeciles clap applaud as if
    they understood him? The Same thing happens to a larger degree anytime this man attempts speech. It was suggested that Joe Biden has a
    stuttering problem? That might be true but THAT is a rather a poor
    excuse and IT is also provided as a cover for what is really happening.


    There is a lot to respond to here... There is a preacher who has a YouTube channel, as well as other platforms, who is a trump supporter. He posted a video about being thankful for God not answering prayers.

    He said... If VP Judas Pence actually sent the double sets of electors back to the states who sent in a second set for clarification... and Trump would have gotten into office because of that... He would have actually been impeached in January... If not then we'd be on out 15th impeachment by now.

    The issues with election corruption would not have been exposed. The true evil intentions of the Democratic party's struggle for power would not have been exposed... Corruption in the political class was exposed. The argument of Left VS Right.... is BS ... even the Elites VS the non-Elites... I say it's Good VS Evil. It seems that every agency in our government has been corrupted and are not doing the peoples business but rather their own.

    Hopefully the country doesn't collapse between now and November 2024...


    Biden has a BIG cognitive issue and it is getting worse.
    This can be plainly seen with prior videos of him where he is talking
    fine and then there is the recent videos. The comparison shows the truth. Speed of speech, the pitch & tone are different as well.
    Now all we get on occasion is Biden leaning into the mic and out comes a creepy whisper. Seriously?

    Biden's cognitive decline is very apparent. What is more troubling is
    that this is ignored by his handlers and it has been for a long time
    time ignored by the main stream media.
    If Trump spoke like this it would mean a one way ticket to Walter Reed..

    Why is it at a Biden Rally there is no chanting USA! USA! USA!
    Could it be that they despise America?


    I have been watching this as well... the decline is not linear... exponential... The rate he's going he might not make his impeachment trial.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Jul 26 19:37:35 2023
    You're right, and especially about the "plant" thing. I think he was developed in a lab, and there was a lab-leak at some point. He seems have escaped before the brain was fully developed.

    Now that he has been caught out he is trying to change his tune,
    claiming Trump might not be guilty of having committed any crimes
    on January 6. In which case, he would like to change his vote to
    certify the election ...

    Not good enough. Pence needs to get lost. Not even the dumbest rednecks are falling for his sermon anymore.

    Pence had his chance. Live and on stage. Just like Obama.
    And we all know what Obama did, as the entire nation saw him
    do it. With one swat, right on target, that fly was *DEAD*!

    They both originate from the insectivore community.

    You do realize both Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren used
    to be Republicans. Just imagine what would happen if they team
    up together, and shock the world by wearing red, as they once
    did in their younger years.

    Democrats probably make a lot more money than most Republicans, with all the side hustles.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 26 23:08:45 2023
    On 26 Jul 2023, IB Joe said the following...

    On 25 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...


    To coin a phrase it will be BIG LEAGUE, Trump will be like a Wrecking Ball! Others on the left get hung up on word semantics like under and
    because..

    "At this point, what difference does it make!"
    - Hillary R. Clinton

    The left gets into the weeds with Trump's crowd size vs Biden supporte
    who are all within their own painted white circle just large enough fo
    one person and naturally they are six feet apart.
    Nearly a total of 60 people at a Biden venue, vs Trumps thousands of people. Biden rally consists of listening to a politician who has mumbling speech and yet these Democratic imbeciles clap applaud as if they understood him? The Same thing happens to a larger degree anytim
    this man attempts speech. It was suggested that Joe Biden has a stuttering problem? That might be true but THAT is a rather a poor excuse and IT is also provided as a cover for what is really happening


    There is a lot to respond to here... There is a preacher who has a
    YouTube channel, as well as other platforms, who is a trump supporter.
    He posted a video about being thankful for God not answering prayers.

    He said... If VP Judas Pence actually sent the double sets of electors back to the states who sent in a second set for clarification... and
    Trump would have gotten into office because of that... He would have actually been impeached in January... If not then we'd be on out 15th impeachment by now.

    The issues with election corruption would not have been exposed. The
    true evil intentions of the Democratic party's struggle for power would not have been exposed... Corruption in the political class was exposed. The argument of Left VS Right.... is BS ... even the Elites VS the non-Elites... I say it's Good VS Evil. It seems that every agency in
    our government has been corrupted and are not doing the peoples business but rather their own.

    Hopefully the country doesn't collapse between now and November 2024...


    Biden has a BIG cognitive issue and it is getting worse.
    This can be plainly seen with prior videos of him where he is talking fine and then there is the recent videos. The comparison shows the tru
    Speed of speech, the pitch & tone are different as well.
    Now all we get on occasion is Biden leaning into the mic and out comes
    creepy whisper. Seriously?

    Biden's cognitive decline is very apparent. What is more troubling is that this is ignored by his handlers and it has been for a long time time ignored by the main stream media.
    If Trump spoke like this it would mean a one way ticket to Walter Reed

    Why is it at a Biden Rally there is no chanting USA! USA! USA! Could it be that they despise America?


    I have been watching this as well... the decline is not linear... exponential... The rate he's going he might not make his impeachment trial.
    Here is more to un-pack my good sir. :)
    The lefties are going to lose it.

    Right they could say that Biden is too ill to go through the impeachment proceedings. Biden is approaching fast the red line, where McCarthy will start this process.

    Should also impeach wide-eyed Mayorkas and Garland too.
    As these slime balls need to fall from grace, I want to see these arrogant SOB's wearing a plaster casts, (as in something broken) nothing too severe though that would be the next best thing to being tared and feathered and carried amongst cobblestone streets.

    Hunter Biden had a Helluva Day On / Off - On / Off
    "All roads lead to Joe Biden." - James Comer
    There should of been a special counsel in the first place. Let's hope there
    is now a special counsel and that it's this slow-waked.
    Good for the Judge who refused to just "Rubber Stamp" this.

    Additionally....
    A women from Hunter's law firm called the clerk of the court in Wilmington, Delaware and represented herself Falsely as the attorney of Rep. Jason Smith to get a amicus brief document removed, but the Judge in Wilmington figured this out due to the Caller ID being from New York. Whoops-a-Daisy....
    Dumb and Dumber Law firm LLC. who doesn't know how to block caller ID *67

    James Comer: This a 'victory for justice in America' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNavLhetlN0
    Timestamp: 2:02

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    ID block.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Jul 27 15:47:05 2023
    On 26 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...

    Here is more to un-pack my good sir. :)
    The lefties are going to lose it.

    Right they could say that Biden is too ill to go through the impeachment proceedings. Biden is approaching fast the red line, where McCarthy will start this process.

    Should also impeach wide-eyed Mayorkas and Garland too.
    As these slime balls need to fall from grace, I want to see these
    arrogant SOB's wearing a plaster casts, (as in something broken) nothing too severe though that would be the next best thing to being tared and feathered and carried amongst cobblestone streets.

    Hunter Biden had a Helluva Day On / Off - On / Off
    "All roads lead to Joe Biden." - James Comer
    There should of been a special counsel in the first place. Let's hope there is now a special counsel and that it's this slow-waked.
    Good for the Judge who refused to just "Rubber Stamp" this.

    Additionally....
    A women from Hunter's law firm called the clerk of the court in Wilmington, Delaware and represented herself Falsely as the attorney of Rep. Jason Smith to get a amicus brief document removed, but the Judge
    in Wilmington figured this out due to the Caller ID being from New York. Whoops-a-Daisy.... Dumb and Dumber Law firm LLC. who doesn't know how
    to block caller ID *67

    James Comer: This a 'victory for justice in America' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNavLhetlN0
    Timestamp: 2:02

    verified from Google
    you dial *67, your phone sends a signal to your provider requesting a caller ID block.


    There is a lot to consider... Here's my problem with going past impeachment inquiry with Joe Biden... I don't want to see impeachment every other week... The Democrats have lowered the bar so much so on this... When Trump gets back in the Dems will want to impeach him because he didn't make the wall 10' taller or didn't actually build it from cost to cost.... He lied to the American public... Bla Bla Bla...

    Impeach if they have the goods with Bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors.... Please hear me out.... If the focus is on Joe it'll get all political... BUT if the focus is on Wray and Garland whereby the focus on the DOJ and FBI corruption... while simultaneously, and at the same time, build a case against the Bidens would be a better approach.

    I heard this morning from a constitutional expert... The way the plea deal was written up, around the gun charge, there would have been only 2 people who signed off on that... The AG or the assistant AG. We need to expose the systemic corruption in Washington.

    The tide is turning for the Bidens, as per the Judge yesterday not rubber stamping the deal... I don't think Joe would make the next election... We need to relax and try to save the republic. Next week will be telling with the testimony of his friend and as well as the other 2.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Thu Jul 27 21:16:36 2023
    Please hear me out.... If the focus is on Joe it'll get
    all political... BUT if the focus is on Wray and Garland whereby the
    focus on the DOJ and FBI corruption... while simultaneously, and at the same time, build a case against the Bidens would be a better approach.

    Absolutely and at all times I will hear you out, others who are and have been logical and sane. It's the lunatics who can't see beyond the front porch due to all that smoke. or the ones so far inside the backside of Joe Biden they can taste what he had for lunch. (sorry for the visual)

    The tide is turning for the Bidens, as per the Judge yesterday not rubber stamping the deal... I don't think Joe would make the next election... IJ> We need to relax and try to save the republic. Next week will be
    telling with the testimony of his friend and as well as the other 2.
    I see and agree with your points. There is a easier way. Firing Squad, but we will do it the correct way, less mess.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 28 07:22:33 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Impeach if they have the goods with Bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors.... Please hear me out.... If the focus is on Joe it'll
    get all political... BUT if the focus is on Wray and Garland whereby
    the focus on the DOJ and FBI corruption... while simultaneously, and at the same time, build a case against the Bidens would be a better
    approach.

    I think that the corruption is much, much deeper than many of us realized. We certainly need to think about the right way to fix it. We don't want to fix a symptom, so to speak, that allows the cause to go undetected.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Jul 28 07:39:49 2023
    On 27 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...


    I see and agree with your points. There is a easier way. Firing Squad,
    but we will do it the correct way, less mess.


    I was watching something the other day... I forget what country it was...
    They have impeached 17 of their last presidents. I don't know what their threshold is for impeachment I would kinda think they weren't expecting what they got.

    I didn't think they should have impeached Trump twice, as per the constitution. Bill Clinton should not have been impeached over lying about a Blow Job!!!

    I don't want angry Democrats threatening impeachment every time they don't get their way impeaching every president in the future years. The corrupt DOJ/FBI/CIA et al. have to be rooted out as well...

    If I bribery case cam be made where the liberal on this echo can say ya... he did it... then go ahead with impeachment... until that time.. use whatever investigative tool you have... and that might be impeachment inquiry.

    Le3ts get the truth out there...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jul 28 07:56:54 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I think that the corruption is much, much deeper than many of us
    realized. We certainly need to think about the right way to fix it. We don't want to fix a symptom, so to speak, that allows the cause to go undetected.


    I think this is why the investigative focus should be on the DOJ/FBI/CIA et al. The corruption in those departments should be fully exposed... fully... so when Trump gets in the people aren't so confused as to why a wrecking ball shows up to these agencies on January 21st 2025.

    Joe is done in 2024, his health, physical and mental, he's done. Moreover, his policies are destroying the country... Normal democrats are starting to see this... Keep investigating this... all the way until the beginning of January 2025... even after he looses the 2024 election...

    Take all the evidence to a legitimate prosecutor and prosecute the crime family...

    Let Trump get Ultra MAGA on these agencies...

    With Vivek at his side, as VP, telling him, Trump, that he looks handsome when he exacts vengeance on these agencies for the American people... While simultaneously implementing his America First policies...

    As I write this I can hear the YMCA song...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 28 08:19:00 2023
    The tide is turning for the Bidens, as per the Judge yesterday not rubber
    tam
    ng the deal... I don't think Joe would make the next election... We need to


    Unless Obama decides he wants a fourth term.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 28 08:56:06 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    Unless Obama decides he wants a fourth term.


    I think there is a major portion of the population who have woken up...

    I'm not sure if Barry will get back in for the forth term

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 28 17:02:00 2023
    Bill Clinton should not have been impeached over lying about a Blow Job!!!

    I don't, either. Then again, receiving one while discussing information
    that the giver did not have clearance to hear... I think there should be
    some consequences for that.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jul 28 17:12:00 2023
    Unless Obama decides he wants a fourth term.


    I think there is a major portion of the population who have woken up...

    I'm not sure if Barry will get back in for the forth term

    I would like to agree, but there is still a large portion who are upset
    that Hillary didn't win in 2016 and long for a return to those times.
    There is a huge generational difference between those of us who are around
    50+, and are used to having jobs and making our own money, and others who are closer to 18 and who are more used to the idea of living off of others.

    I will give you one guess as to which side that latter group will be drawn
    to, no matter how senile the choice might be.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 28 20:19:47 2023
    Joe is done in 2024, his health, physical and mental, he's done. Moreover, his policies are destroying the country... Normal democrats
    are starting to see this... Keep investigating this... all the way
    until the beginning of January 2025... even after he looses the 2024 election...

    Joe's health is just fine. His mental health especially. It's all just an act. "That adorable old man couldn't hurt a fly." Yea right. He knows all about all the sick and horrible things that he's doing to human beings. He has superiors, like his donors, but he's a part of the team, and he's a real team player too.

    There's no such thing as "normal democrats." They have all sold their souls (and not for rock n roll.) There's no "I'm a better Democrat than Joe Biden;" they are all in on it, and a good portion of our Republicans are in on evil as well.

    Next time you see a Democrat, ask them why their party let more than 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since 2020. They ALL are complicit.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 28 20:23:30 2023
    The tide is turning for the Bidens, as per the Judge yesterday not rubbe
    tam
    ng the deal... I don't think Joe would make the next election... We nee


    Unless Obama decides he wants a fourth term.

    You're usually not the type to say such things! That's funny!

    Every warm blooded human is worried about what this "unprecedented" president of ours is getting us into.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 08:20:56 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think this is why the investigative focus should be on the
    DOJ/FBI/CIA et al. The corruption in those departments should be fully exposed... fully... so when Trump gets in the people aren't so
    confused as to why a wrecking ball shows up to these agencies on
    January 21st 2025.

    I think they need to be cleaned so that they can actually do their job and find the REAL puppet masters. I figure they already know who that is.

    Joe is done in 2024, his health, physical and mental, he's done.
    Moreover, his policies are destroying the country... Normal democrats
    are starting to see this...

    Democrats aren't normal.

    Kidding aside, there are more Wokies who are getting red pilled as they struggle more to make ends meet. That will make it much harder for them to cheat in the next election.

    Take all the evidence to a legitimate prosecutor and prosecute the
    crime family...

    That will be the trick: Finding someone in the justice system who isn't beholden to the Elitists.

    With Vivek at his side, as VP, telling him, Trump, that he looks
    handsome when he exacts vengeance on these agencies for the American people... While simultaneously implementing his America First
    policies...

    I wouldn't mind Vivek as VP. But I don't know if Vivek would accept VP.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 29 09:02:38 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    Bill Clinton should not have been impeached over lying about a Blow Job

    I don't, either. Then again, receiving one while discussing information that the giver did not have clearance to hear... I think there should be some consequences for that.


    Lying about a blow job is not a High Crime or Misdemeanor... It was not a
    good thing for Bill to get a young girl to do... Speaks volumes of his character and Hillary's inability to give a good blow job..

    What the GOP did then, and the Democrats did to Trump, has cheapened the whole impeachment process. Biden was on the news the other day saying that they're going to impeach him because inflation is down its highs.

    There are some Kool-Aide drinking liberals out there that would believe that statement.

    Lets investigate the corruption of the DOJ and the Biden crime family once you have a rock solid case, and I'm told we do, we need a rock solider case... I don't want people to look back a Biden's impeachment and it be viewed as political...

    Once the GOP has control of the DOJ a special council can be setup to investigate and hold the Crime Family accountable... Navy will be glad she doesn't have the Biden last name.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... I am NOT a tagline THIEF. I am a tagline CONSERVATIONIST.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 08:32:58 2023
    What the GOP did then, and the Democrats did to Trump, has cheapened the whole impeachment process.

    The democrats never cheapened the impeachment process.

    The GOP didn't even hold a trial. That doesn't cheapen the the impeacment process either, it just sidesteps it.

    The GOP cares nothing about law & order, never did. They don't even care about national security.

    Biden was on the news the other day saying that they're going to impeach him because inflation is down its highs.

    Like Joe Biden or not the economy is doing well. Much better that it was doing under Trump.

    Lets investigate the corruption of the DOJ and the Biden crime family once you have a rock solid case, and I'm told we do,

    Who told you that!

    we need a rock solider case... I don't want people to look back a Biden's impeachment and it be viewed as political...

    Don't worry, Biden is not going to be impeached.

    Once the GOP has control of the DOJ a special council can be setup to investigate and hold the Crime Family accountable... Navy will be glad she doesn't have the Biden last name.

    The key word there is control, that is what the GOP wants.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 29 10:40:35 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I would like to agree, but there is still a large portion who are upset that Hillary didn't win in 2016 and long for a return to those times. There is a huge generational difference between those of us who are
    around 50+, and are used to having jobs and making our own money, and others who are closer to 18 and who are more used to the idea of living off of others.

    I will give you one guess as to which side that latter group will be
    drawn to, no matter how senile the choice might be.


    I think there are a lot of people waking up ... Francis Ford Coppola in an article claimed her had regrets voting for Biden... There are all kinds of people with buyers remorse. If the crime starts hitting the the rich people's areas... maybe people start camping and defecating on their sidewalks... They'll vote for Trump in 2024... Even Woppie will.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... Intelligence tests are biased toward the literate.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/200)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 29 10:44:56 2023
    On 28 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Joe's health is just fine. His mental health especially. It's all just
    an act. "That adorable old man couldn't hurt a fly." Yea right. He knows all about all the sick and horrible things that he's doing to human beings. He has superiors, like his donors, but he's a part of the team, and he's a real team player too.

    There's no such thing as "normal democrats." They have all sold their souls (and not for rock n roll.) There's no "I'm a better Democrat than Joe Biden;" they are all in on it, and a good portion of our Republicans are in on evil as well.

    Next time you see a Democrat, ask them why their party let more than 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since 2020. They ALL are complicit.


    Joe is not fine... There are a lot of politicians not fine... WAY TOOOOOOO Ephin old to be in the government working, on both sides of the isle.

    The world political system needs a reboot.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... Unzip... expand... What kind of pervert came up with this?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 29 10:50:53 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Democrats aren't normal.


    I heard a comedian say... in 2016 when Trump beat Hillary... The Democrats haven't been that mad since the Republicans freed the slaves...


    I wouldn't mind Vivek as VP. But I don't know if Vivek would accept VP.


    I think he would...

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... Evil triumphs when good people do nothing. - Einstein

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 12:58:29 2023
    Joe is not fine... There are a lot of politicians not fine... WAY
    TOOOOOOO Ephin old to be in the government working, on both sides of the isle.

    He can keep a secret better than me. And he can keep a straight face while lying way better than me. And I'm a young adult.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/02/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: alcoholidaybbs.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525)
  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 16:12:56 2023
    The GOP cares nothing about law & order, never did. They don't even care about national security.
    The GOP were not the ones behind Defund the Police.
    but after this failed and crime started to mount, beyond their comfort zone, that are signing refund the police.
    Nor were the GOP members defending BLM or the beyond dumb critical race theory gibberish.

    Like Joe Biden or not the economy is doing well. Much better that it was doing under Trump.
    The economy? hold up...
    First of all you are in Canada eh?, so how in the sam hill would know, what the economy is like here in the United States?
    Packages, containers of food, snacks included are indeed getting smaller and the cost is going up.

    Lets investigate the corruption of the DOJ and the Biden crime family onc
    you have a rock solid case, and I'm told we do,

    Who told you that!
    You're not going to see what we see, if you're watching CNN, MSNBC, or other lefty networks.

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    ... I always said you was Yellow.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 29 16:20:17 2023
    I think there are a lot of people waking up ... Francis Ford Coppola in
    an article claimed her had regrets voting for Biden... There are all
    kinds of people with buyers remorse. If the crime starts hitting the
    the rich people's areas... maybe people start camping and defecating on their sidewalks... They'll vote for Trump in 2024... Even Woppie will.
    I don't know about that Joe :)
    I think those ugly mugs on The View are permanently damaged goods.
    if you must watch Cover your watch_face, otherwise it will always be 6:30, they ain't going to rise up for any of those nasty creatures of The View.

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    ... BREAKFAST.COM Halted... Cereal port not responding.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Jul 29 14:17:10 2023
    The GOP were not the ones behind Defund the Police.
    but after this failed and crime started to mount, beyond their comfort zone, that are signing refund the police.

    It wasn't the democrats either.

    Today the GOP wants to defund the FBI, The DOJ and who knows what else.

    Nor were the GOP members defending BLM or the beyond dumb critical race theory gibberish.

    You do understand that critical race theory was never taught in schools?

    You did know that, right?

    Like Joe Biden or not the economy is doing well. Much better that it was
    doing under Trump.

    The economy? hold up...
    First of all you are in Canada eh?, so how in the sam hill would know, what the economy is like here in the United States?

    I looked it up. Ever do that?

    Packages, containers of food, snacks included are indeed getting smaller and the cost is going up.

    Yeah, I see that here too.

    Who told you that!

    You're not going to see what we see, if you're watching CNN, MSNBC, or other lefty networks.

    Do an honest side by side comparison of the economy under Trump/Biden.

    I swear, the truth doesn't hurt at all.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Jul 29 18:43:00 2023
    On 29 Jul 2023, Gregory Deyss said the following...

    I think there are a lot of people waking up ... Francis Ford Coppola an article claimed her had regrets voting for Biden... There are all kinds of people with buyers remorse. If the crime starts hitting the the rich people's areas... maybe people start camping and defecating their sidewalks... They'll vote for Trump in 2024... Even Woppie will
    I don't know about that Joe :)
    I think those ugly mugs on The View are permanently damaged goods.
    if you must watch Cover your watch_face, otherwise it will always be
    6:30, they ain't going to rise up for any of those nasty creatures of
    The View.


    I just read TODAY that Tucker is going to sue Woppie for 1 Billion dollars... A couple days back Jason Aldean started a suit against Woopie for a few 100 million as well. Jason claims he's not racist.

    That'll shut them up!!!

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... I am NOT a tagline THIEF. I am a tagline CONSERVATIONIST.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 29 21:03:25 2023
    The economy? hold up...
    First of all you are in Canada eh?, so how in the sam hill would know, wh
    the economy is like here in the United States?

    I looked it up. Ever do that?
    Where? Show us, let me guess a lefty leaning website that will tell you and agree with your predetermined views. I think I am spot on with that analysis.

    Do an honest side by side comparison of the economy under Trump/Biden.
    You really want me to do that? be absolutely sure.
    I will share the findings here. Trust me you won't like the results.

    I swear, the truth doesn't hurt at all.
    You might want to go out and grab a first aid kit or at the very least
    some hot chocolate w/ the mini marshmallows, you will something to help you cope when the real truth is released.

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    ... My tagline could eat your tagline for breakfast

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jul 30 04:18:18 2023
    I looked it up. Ever do that?
    Where? Show us, let me guess a lefty leaning website that will tell you and agree with your predetermined views. I think I am spot on with that analysis.

    I look up commentary. Not left or right.

    I have no internet access to find links at this moment but there are many. I didn't get that off the dark web.

    Do an honest side by side comparison of the economy under Trump/Biden.
    You really want me to do that? be absolutely sure.

    Yes, absolutely. An honest side by side comparison.

    I will share the findings here. Trust me you won't like the results.

    I have read your unfounded praise of Donald Trump before.

    I swear, the truth doesn't hurt at all.
    You might want to go out and grab a first aid kit or at the very least
    some hot chocolate w/ the mini marshmallows, you will something to help you cope when the real truth is released.

    Why do I need a first aid kit or chocolate if you find truth?

    I don't.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 30 15:09:49 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Joe is done in 2024, his health, physical and mental, he's done.
    Moreover, his policies are destroying the country... Normal democrats
    are starting to see this... Keep investigating this... all the way
    until the beginning of January 2025... even after he looses the 2024
    election...

    Joe's health is just fine. His mental health especially. It's all just an act.

    Yes. We know. But nobody else does. And that is the secret of his
    success. Which makes him Joe the Invincible.

    "That adorable old man couldn't hurt a fly." Yea right. He knows all about all the sick and horrible things that he's doing to human beings. He has superiors, like his donors, but he's a part of the team, and he's a real team player too.

    Now you're learning. You are finally learning. Finally learning
    what it is all about. Bidenomics. Named after the one who invented
    it. The man himself, Joe Biden.

    There's no such thing as "normal democrats."

    Not even FDR himself was able to name his program after himself.
    And you know what that means. What we have now is not a new deal,
    but the greatest steal ever!

    They have all sold their souls (and not for rock n roll.)

    If evil did not exist, would there be a church? You claim we have
    all sold our souls. Which would mean there is no more evil. With no
    one left to save, who or what would be our god?

    There's no "I'm a better Democrat than Joe Biden;" they are all in on it, and a good portion of our Republicans are in on evil as well.

    Hence the need for Bidenomics. A God we can all believe in.

    Next time you see a Democrat, ask them why their party let more than 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since 2020.

    Bidenomics never encouraged anybody to flee to Mexico.

    They ALL are complicit.

    We should feed the world. Not just Mexico.

    That is the purpose of Bidenomics.

    Glad to hear you are on board.

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    Nothing sucks like an Electrolux

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Sun Jul 30 15:10:00 2023
    Bill Clinton should not have been impeached over lying about a Blow Job!!!

    I don't, either.

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski!"
    ~ Bill Clinton

    There you go. At least two people in this forum believe everything
    Bill Clinton says is true!

    Then again, receiving one while discussing information that the giver did not have clearance to hear... I think there should be
    some consequences for that.

    You know it is kind of hard to discuss things when your mouth
    is full ...

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    Education not deportation!

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    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 15:10:27 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Bill Clinton should not have been impeached over lying about a
    Blow Job

    I don't, either. Then again, receiving one while discussing
    information
    that the giver did not have clearance to hear... I think there should
    be
    some consequences for that.


    Lying about a blow job is not a High Crime or Misdemeanor...

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski!"
    ~ Bill Clinton

    That was the honest to God's truth, as told by Bill Clinton himself.

    And Hillary believed him, punching him once in the face to prove it,
    giving him a black eye and a broken nose at that same time.

    It was not a good thing for Bill to get a young girl to do...

    She asked for the job ...

    Speaks volumes of his character and Hillary's inability to give a good blow
    job..

    Well, that explains it. Hillary was incompetent. Monica was great ...

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    It's not for women.

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    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 30 07:28:41 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski!"
    ~ Bill Clinton


    Sorry... That's Miss Lewinski, not Ms... It would be Ms. Clinton... Bill's wife.


    Well, that explains it. Hillary was incompetent. Monica was great ...


    And that is how history should have seen it.... without the impeachment.

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... I wish life had a scroll-back buffer.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/200)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 30 08:49:00 2023

    Democrats aren't normal.


    I heard a comedian say... in 2016 when Trump beat Hillary... The Democrats
    av
    't been that mad since the Republicans freed the slaves...

    That is likely a true statement.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sun Jul 30 09:31:00 2023
    The economy? hold up...
    First of all you are in Canada eh?, so how in the sam hill would know, what
    h
    economy is like here in the United States?
    Packages, containers of food, snacks included are indeed getting smaller and

    cost is going up.

    One would notice this if they buy breakfast cereal like Cherrios. I don't
    know that they've gone up lately, but they are up at least a dollar (with smaller boxes) since the current administration started. That would be an
    over 25% price increase for the largest box (which is now smaller). They
    have not gone down since.

    I would not be shocked if Al does not even shop for himself.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 30 11:14:49 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I heard a comedian say... in 2016 when Trump beat Hillary... The
    Democrats haven't been that mad since the Republicans freed the
    slaves...

    More true than a joke, that's for sure.


    ... You will never be younger then you are today..
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 30 09:35:51 2023
    On 30 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I heard a comedian say... in 2016 when Trump beat Hillary... The Democra
    av
    't been that mad since the Republicans freed the slaves...

    That is likely a true statement.


    :)

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 31 02:34:51 2023
    Hello Joe,

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinski!"
    ~ Bill Clinton

    Sorry... That's Miss Lewinski, not Ms... It would be Ms. Clinton... Bill's wife.

    I have seen it reported both ways.
    As Ms. Lewinski, and as Miss Lewinski.

    However, all who saw it live on television know it was Ms. Lewinski.
    As well as Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was with Mr. Bill Clinton
    at the time as he made these comments (reported by Wikipedia) -

    Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I
    worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing
    to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say
    this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
    Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American
    people. Thank you.

    The next time President Clinton made a live address to the nation
    (his SOTU speech) he was sporting a black eye and a broken nose. And
    Hillary was nowhere around to be seen.

    Well, that explains it. Hillary was incompetent. Monica was great ...

    And that is how history should have seen it.... without the impeachment.

    "I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never."
    ~ Bill Clinton

    Bill was the most honest president we have ever had. He was also
    the most popular president in history when he left office after having
    served two consecutive terms.

    Of course, Joe might top that after completing his second term ...

    For Life,
    Lee

    --
    The people! Unite! Will never be defeated!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 30 21:27:25 2023
    Joe's health is just fine. His mental health especially. It's all jus act.

    Yes. We know. But nobody else does. And that is the secret of his
    success. Which makes him Joe the Invincible.

    You had a lot of us fooled. We thought you were a leftist. Sorry about that!

    There's no such thing as "normal democrats."

    Not even FDR himself was able to name his program after himself.
    And you know what that means. What we have now is not a new deal,
    but the greatest steal ever!


    For sure!

    They have all sold their souls (and not for rock n roll.)

    If evil did not exist, would there be a church? You claim we have
    all sold our souls. Which would mean there is no more evil. With no
    one left to save, who or what would be our god?

    What do you mean? There's still evil. People who've sold their soul are evil. You're supposed to keep your soul. Supporting the evil plight of the Democrats is like ripping the copper piping out of your trailer for liquor money.

    They ALL are complicit.

    We should feed the world. Not just Mexico.

    The world should feed me.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 31 09:22:49 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to GREGORY DEYSS <=-

    I would not be shocked if Al does not even shop for himself.

    His mom probably buys all the groceries for the house.


    ... Why get even, when you can get odd?
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