Hello All!

Do you happen to have experience/ happen to know - some console script which is showing clock on screen (not GUI). Hours/mins are enough. Bash preferred ;-)

Karel
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Hi Karel!

09 Jan 2022 09:36, from Karel Kral -> All:

Do you happen to have experience/ happen to know - some console script which is showing clock on screen (not GUI). Hours/mins are enough.
Bash preferred ;-)

Something like this?
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/clockt.html

CU, Ricsi

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Hello Karel!

09 Jan 22 09:36, Karel Kral wrote to All:

Do you happen to have experience/ happen to know - some console
script which is showing clock on screen (not GUI). Hours/mins are
enough. Bash preferred ;-)

Analog or digital clock?

https://github.com/tsotne95/clock_in_bash https://gist.github.com/izabera/b2dc6515c7cfb05fc500 http://feherke.github.io/bash/termclock-sh.html https://github.com/tenox7/aclock
https://github.com/kz6fittycent/ascii_clock


Regards,
Gerrit

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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 09:36:05 +0100
"Karel Kral" <karel.kral@2:423/39> wrote:

Hello All!

Do you happen to have experience/ happen to know - some console
script which is showing clock on screen (not GUI). Hours/mins are
enough. Bash preferred ;-)

Karel

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watch -n1 date
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Hello Nigel!

17 Jan 22 06:56, Nigel Reed wrote to Karel Kral:

Do you happen to have experience/ happen to know - some console
script which is showing clock on screen (not GUI). Hours/mins are
enough. Bash preferred ;-)

watch -n1 date

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>


Regards,
Gerrit

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Re: Re: clock
By: Gerrit Kuehn to Nigel Reed on Mon Jan 17 2022 17:35:09

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>

He asked to "display a clock on the screen". This displays a clock on the screen.
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Hello Nigel!

17 Jan 2022 06:56, Nigel Reed wrote to Karel Kral:

watch -n1 date > figlet && figlet -f figlet

:-)

warning not tested, hehe


Regards Benny

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Hello Nigel!

17 Jan 2022 14:49, Nigel Reed wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>

He asked to "display a clock on the screen". This displays a clock on
the screen.

are we on twitter ? :)


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

warning not tested

ADVARSEL: Jeg har egern i bukserne.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

ADVARSEL - Blanding af perogies med LSD kan forårsage en dårlig tur til Vegreville.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Nigel!

17 Jan 22 14:49, Nigel Reed wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>

He asked to "display a clock on the screen". This displays a clock on
the screen.

Sorry, I was trying to be funny. Never mind.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hey Gerrit!

Sorry, I was trying to be funny.

I got it; watch as opposed to clock.

Life is good,
Maurice

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:50:05 +0100
"Gerrit Kuehn" <gerrit.kuehn@2:240/12> wrote:

Hello Nigel!

17 Jan 22 14:49, Nigel Reed wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>

He asked to "display a clock on the screen". This displays a
clock on the screen.

Sorry, I was trying to be funny. Never mind.

OK, I get it now. very droll.
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On 2022 Jan 18 22:50:04, you wrote to Nigel Reed:

Hey, he asked for a proper clock, not just a watch... ;-) <scrn>

He asked to "display a clock on the screen". This displays a clock on
the screen.

Sorry, I was trying to be funny. Never mind.

FWIW: i caught that play on words joke you made! i thought it was a very good pun :lol:

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Hello Maurice!

18 Jan 2022 18:53, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

warning not tested

ADVARSEL: Jeg har egern i bukserne.

and kernel 5.15.16 is now stable on gentoo

hopefully android devices soon will lift there kernel versions :)


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

and kernel 5.15.16 is now stable on gentoo

cat /proc/version
Linux version 5.15.16 (root@heatsink) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Fri Jan 21 16:23:47 UTC 2022

Same with x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu. :-)

hopefully android devices soon will lift there kernel versions

Yeah right.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

21 Jan 2022 23:34:00, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

warning not tested

ADVARSEL: Jeg har egern i bukserne.

and kernel 5.15.16 is now stable on gentoo
hopefully android devices soon will lift there kernel versions :)

For now I have 5.15.15 on all my ARM64 devices and see no reason to update.


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Hello All!

Thank you all for advices.

I started use one in shell and it was nice.

But scope changed a bit.

Actually demand increased. And I am moving to X.

(it is rasp. on many 86" TV).

Weather on background was needed.

Also to show some comercial numbers sometimes. And graphs needs to be shown (all https based).

Hm. Spoke with manager again. OK. Idea to buy x so big TV's just for time was not so clever. We put together some other points ;-)

My direction so far: each rasp is connected R/O to local NAS (where admin can manage content via easy bash script edit like: to show time with weather and every 15 minutes to show some numbers for one minute and then loop - using cvlc or something like that).

Just came new request: to be able to show text on demand. (like "lunch break is moved 30 minutes earlier"). Hm. (loop in 15 minutes is now too long). And fronteend needs to be prepared.

I played a bit with KODI before (kiosk mode, etc.)

So far still looking. Probably to visit some railway stations how they do that ;-)

(BTW, Samsung TV has nice MagicInfo solution, you need few servers, etc etc. Too robust for me...)

Karel
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Hello Karel!

22 Jan 22 10:33, Karel Kral wrote to All:

Just came new request: to be able to show text on demand. (like
"lunch break is moved 30 minutes earlier"). Hm. (loop in 15 minutes
is now too long). And fronteend needs to be prepared.

Have some orchestration tool (ansible, saltstack...) manage software and changes? There should be plenty of solutions available to display some stuff, you just need the management part, right? Probably you could even use conky to do most of this.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Maurice!

22 Jan 2022 00:11, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Same with x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu. :-)

super

hopefully android devices soon will lift there kernel versions

Yeah right.

on android there have long time being covid on way, if not just bad excuses :/


Regards Benny

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Hello Alexey!

22 Jan 2022 12:34, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Benny Pedersen:

For now I have 5.15.15 on all my ARM64 devices and see no reason to update.

only odd versions is released for arm64 ?


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

on android there have long time being covid on way, if not just
bad excuses :/

Everyone could use that excuse. How do they explain being so far behind? ... especially considering the aarch64 (aka arm64) are more or less using the same hardware and keeping up with the times.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Benny!

only odd versions is released for arm64 ?

Have you ever compiled a kernel on a raspi? It takes forever. I am guessing I would stick with kv-5.15.15 as well rather than upgrade with every kernel release.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Good ${greeting_time}, Maurice!

23 Jan 2022 01:12:28, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

only odd versions is released for arm64 ?

Have you ever compiled a kernel on a raspi? It takes forever.

No - only approx. 4 hours on RPi 4B with 4 Gb RAM :-)

I am guessing I would stick with kv-5.15.15 as well rather than
upgrade with every kernel release.

I update kernels either after some serious security fixes being upstreamed or after a month (or two) had passed since previous build, whichever comes first.

That's ok for production use and even for the distribution assembly.


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Hey Alexey!

No - only approx. 4 hours on RPi 4B with 4 Gb RAM :-)

That sounds about right. Best of luck compiling a modern firefox on there. :::shudder:::

I update kernels either after some serious security fixes being
upstreamed or after a month (or two) had passed since previous
build, whichever comes first.

That's ok for production use and even for the distribution assembly.

I'd go along with that as it more or less fits my observations over the past couple decades. Also, by past observation, I am thinking around 5.18.x before this latest development branch starts delivering on a few noncritical but always nice to have features such as boot penguins. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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They do not quarrel who are not together.
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Hello Maurice!

23 Jan 2022 01:08, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

on android there have long time being covid on way, if not just
bad excuses :/

Everyone could use that excuse.

+1

How do they explain being so far
behind?

opensuse did not make it precompiled ?

... especially considering the aarch64 (aka arm64) are more or
less using the same hardware and keeping up with the times.

gentoo-kernel-bin is precompiled, it only localy compile the new patches, so it does not take long on a raspberry pi

but it would if one did the whole gentoo-kernel, but again this compile can be done on a cross compile host

and lastly new raspberry pi is not allways slow :=)


Regards Benny

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Hello Maurice!

23 Jan 2022 01:12, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Have you ever compiled a kernel on a raspi? It takes forever. I am guessing I would stick with kv-5.15.15 as well rather than upgrade
with every kernel release.

i remember my quad core pii being slow, but always learned a rpi3 was faster, you asked me, i answered

my pii quad had 1536 bogomips in redhat 8, my old hp dl 585 g1 had 43200 bogomips if thats matter on with one used most electical power to do it

the hp have faster raid card then the whole computer, powerpc, 3 scsi 2 controller. so it could hook up 45 scsi 2 drives in raid 5 :=)

time of small harddrives :)


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

opensuse did not make it precompiled ?

Heh, heh. That is silly enough to be true.

and lastly new raspberry pi is not allways slow

The last one for me was the raspi3. I did a custom build for it (aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu) that I am not sure I'd care to repeat. The raspi's don't really have anything to offer that is worth all the extra effort it takes. Also they waste a perfectly good broadcom wifi chip by NOT providing any external antenna connections. What a waste.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Muþa gehwylc mete þearf, mæl sceolon tidum gongan.
Every mouth needs food; meals should come at the right time.
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Hey Benny!

so it could hook up 45 scsi 2 drives in raid 5

There goes the power budget all to hell. Add four 8k monitors and watch the breaker blow. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

25 Jan 2022 01:11, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

opensuse did not make it precompiled ?

Heh, heh. That is silly enough to be true.

if it works for linux, why is microsoft keep the secret ?

and lastly new raspberry pi is not allways slow

The last one for me was the raspi3. I did a custom build for it (aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu)

i like to learn more on qemu kvm how to make that in a libvirt setup

that I am not sure I'd care to repeat.
The raspi's don't really have anything to offer that is worth all the extra effort it takes.

windows 11 for arm64 will run on it ?, yes, does it support windows store apps for arm yes, does any one use it no :=)

Also they waste a perfectly good broadcom wifi
chip by NOT providing any external antenna connections.

unless it should connect to mobil phones in hotspot

What a waste.

depends


Regards Benny

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Hello Maurice!

25 Jan 2022 01:20, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

so it could hook up 45 scsi 2 drives in raid 5

There goes the power budget all to hell. Add four 8k monitors and
watch the breaker blow. :-)

i have seen a hardware print for rpi to add 16 microsd card into one rpi cloud setup, wheater this is a waste aswell is unknown


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

why is microsoft keep the secret ?

What secret? I thought we were talking about android.

i like to learn more on qemu kvm how to make that in a libvirt
setup

I never went that far with it. I briefly had a qemu setup for aarch64 but wans't that happy with it. I thought the real raspi was better but then again I didn't try all that hard with qemu.

windows 11 for arm64 will run on it ?, yes, does it support
windows store apps for arm yes, does any one use it no :=)

Sounds about right from what I've seen in this neck of the woods.

unless it should connect to mobil phones in hotspot

It did that but you couldn't get too far from the hotspot. I wasm't impressed at all, despite liking the chipset ... given proper antenna connectors that is.

What a waste.

depends

They had their chance and blew it. Depends doesn't cut it.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Seldom does a wise man rejoice without sorrow.
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Hey Benny!

i have seen a hardware print for rpi to add 16 microsd card into
one rpi cloud setup, wheater this is a waste aswell is unknown

I have seen such ideas and given the fact that microsd cards are so slow, the above setup is probably as good as any other of that nature. A waste? I have no reason for 16 microsd cards to be available at the same time. Do you?

I've toyed with the idea of a raspi cluster but whenever I look at a raspi board the onboard crippled wifi chip causes me to stop. It is a deal killer for me but you never know what the future might bring.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

27 Jan 2022 03:19, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

why is microsoft keep the secret ?

What secret? I thought we were talking about android.

show me the android sources ?

i only have linux kernel so far

i like to learn more on qemu kvm how to make that in a libvirt
setup

I never went that far with it.

so atleast you tryed :=)

I briefly had a qemu setup for aarch64

that could be used for cross compile ?

but wans't that happy with it.

i think it would make sense to cross compile on faster hardware while running irc on commodore 64 :)

I thought the real raspi was better

if you prefer slow ? :=)

but then again I didn't try all that hard with qemu.

fair

windows 11 for arm64 will run on it ?, yes, does it support
windows store apps for arm yes, does any one use it no :=)

Sounds about right from what I've seen in this neck of the woods.

microsoft have imho no succes with arm yet, but the hardware is good, feels like owning a farari and wait for the motor engine :=)

unless it should connect to mobil phones in hotspot

It did that but you couldn't get too far from the hotspot. I wasm't impressed at all, despite liking the chipset ... given proper antenna connectors that is.

i think on travel this is fine, funny in trains to see how many have open wifi / hotspot without any password or even a WPA, ups or maybe middle WPA2, i have WP3 on both my huawei phones

i just search for enterprise wifi in hotspot mode with radious password auth

What a waste.

depends

They had their chance and blew it. Depends doesn't cut it.

shit happens

old 5.15.16 kernel was on january 21, 17 is today :=)


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

What secret? I thought we were talking about android.

show me the android sources ?

According to https://source.android.com/setup/build/building-kernels;

mkdir android-kernel && cd android-kernel
repo init -u https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/manifest -b BRANCH
repo sync

Also of note is the list of devices and their respective branches. The only 5.x kernel they show is android-gs-raviole-5.10-android12-qpr1-d for the "Pixel 6 (oriole)".

I never went that far with it.

so atleast you tryed :=)

Always. I may pick it up again in the future but I am not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. Maybe just a qemu based one. Who knows?

I briefly had a qemu setup for aarch64

that could be used for cross compile ?

Yes except in that case it isn't really a cross compile. I did build a couple aarch64 kernels on a x86_64 using a custom built cross compiler (gcc/g++ of course) but the rest was done natively on the raspi3b after that, inculding the final boot kernel.

i think it would make sense to cross compile on faster hardware
while running irc on commodore 64 :)

You would. No commodore here so you'd have to settle with cross compile on faster hardware, x86_64 in this neck of the woods, and the hell with the irc chat.

I thought the real raspi was better

if you prefer slow ? :=)

No but I do prefer an actual working system at the end of it all as well as the fact that I never use anything that cannot take care of itself, especially if the manufacturer is going to short change me on external antenna connectors. In the case of the raspi3b I have here, I went through the entire process of building a capable aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu despite the antenna situation seeing I already had made the investment. Now I know for sure why it is abandonware or at least until a suitable replacement identifies itself.

microsoft have imho no succes with arm yet, but the hardware is
good, feels like owning a farari and wait for the motor engine

More like a Yugo methinks. Do they still make those?

They had their chance and blew it. Depends doesn't cut it.

shit happens

Yes but in this case they are to blame for the shit happening.

old 5.15.16 kernel was on january 21, 17 is today :=)

cat /proc/version
Linux version 5.15.17 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Thu Jan 27 22:12:02 UTC 2022

Looks good from this angle.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hi Benny!

27 Jan 2022 23:05, from Benny Pedersen -> Maurice Kinal:

why is microsoft keep the secret ?

What secret? I thought we were talking about android.

show me the android sources ?

https://android.googlesource.com/

I am using LineagOS that is compiled from the AOSP project.
Android Open Source Project.

CU, Ricsi

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