• Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?

    From Nick Young@2:250/7 to All on Thu Mar 11 03:48:40 2021
    Hi All,

    I run my BBS up in the cloud on a Ubuntu VPS. I also run a C*NET exchange at home (ckts.info). I would love to add dial-up support
    to my BBS but I can't connect physical hardware (e.g. modem) to a VPS.

    Ideally I'd use SEXPOTS or mgetty to take a call from a 'modem' and pass it to my BBS telnet server but a physical modem and an ATA
    isn't an option.

    Does anyone know of a way to 'emulate' a modem which listens on a VoIP SIP/IAX line? Once the call is received I can probably work
    the rest out.

    Any help appreciated!

    Nick
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 08:46:00 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Nick!

    11 Mar 2021 03:48:40, you wrote to All:

    I would love to add dial-up support to my BBS but I can't connect
    physical hardware (e.g. modem) to a VPS.
    Does anyone know of a way to 'emulate' a modem which listens on a
    VoIP SIP/IAX line?

    Yes.


    --
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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 11 08:30:27 2021
    Hello Alexey!

    11 Mar 21 08:46, you wrote to Nick Young:

    Yes.

    ;-)

    Could you please write more details?

    I played with that 2-3 years ago and it was not easy that time. There were several comercial products (like some "faxgate") which can do that - but never seen working one.

    Karel

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Karel Kral on Thu Mar 11 12:39:00 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Karel!

    11 Mar 2021 08:30:26, you wrote to me:

    Yes.
    ;-)

    Could you please write more details?

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century, even if they are still possible (sure for V.42*, most likely for V.32*, don't know for V.34).


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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 11 13:04:57 2021
    Hello Alexey!

    11 Mar 21 12:39, you wrote to me:

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century, even if they are still possible (sure for V.42*, most likely for V.32*, don't know for V.34).

    Could you recommend one for V.42*?

    Karel

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Karel Kral on Thu Mar 11 16:04:04 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Karel!

    11 Mar 2021 13:04:56, you wrote to me:

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century, even if they
    are still possible (sure for V.42*, most likely for V.32*, don't
    know for V.34).
    Could you recommend one for V.42*?

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century... [continued above].


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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    ... that's why I really dislike fools.
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  • From Nick Young@2:250/7 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu Mar 11 14:58:00 2021
    Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Alexey Vissarionov to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 2021 08:46 am

    How can this be done?


    Nick
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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 17:47:45 2021
    Hello Nick!

    Thursday March 11 2021 14:58, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Alexey Vissarionov to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 2021 08:46 am

    How can this be done?


    You do appreciate that almost all nodes in Fidonet these days have dropped modems for the internet ?

    Mine went over 10 years ago when calls dropped to zero so started selling off all my USR Pro modems both regular as ISDN. If nothing else it cut the phone bills down considerably.

    Vincent

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 16:52:00 2021
    Am 11.03.21 schrieb Nick Young@2:250/7 in LINUX:

    Hallo Nick,

    Does anyone know of a way to 'emulate' a modem which listens on a VoIP SIP/IAX line? Once the call is received I can probably work the rest out.

    Have a look at IAXmodem, maybe this helps:
    http://iaxmodem.sourceforge.net

    It connects via IAX to an Asterisk server and provides a modem interface.
    But I haven't tried it myself.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Nick Young@2:250/7 to Vincent Coen on Thu Mar 11 19:55:08 2021
    Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Vincent Coen to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 2021 05:47 pm

    Yes, I know they have.

    But that't not the point - I wouldn't run thiss off POTS, it'd be off C*NET (ckts.info) and I'd have fun using a modem to connect to my own BBS. I've got iaxmodem working - it connects to my exchange and can tell when someone calls and it can pick up too. I'm now trying to get mgetty working, and it isn't. If anyone knows anything about mgetty, please let me know :)

    Nick
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  • From Nick Young@2:250/7 to Anna Christina Nass on Thu Mar 11 20:07:20 2021
    Re: Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Anna Christina Nass to Nick Young on Thu Mar 11 2021 04:52 pm

    Hi Anna,

    Apparently it can also work with mgetty, which is what I am struggling with.


    Nick
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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5003.4 to Anna Christina Nass on Thu Mar 11 23:54:34 2021
    Hello Anna!

    11 Mar 21 16:52, you wrote to Nick Young:

    Does anyone know of a way to 'emulate' a modem which listens on a VoIP
    SIP/IAX line? Once the call is received I can probably work the rest
    out.

    Have a look at IAXmodem, maybe this helps: http://iaxmodem.sourceforge.net

    It connects via IAX to an Asterisk server and provides a modem interface. But I haven't tried it myself.

    It is a Fax modem, not very usefull for dataconnections.
    Besides for IAX you will most likely need an Asterisk PBX as well.

    Kees

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Alexey Vissarionov on Fri Mar 12 01:32:08 2021
    Hello Alexey!

    11 Mar 2021 12:39, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Karel Kral:

    Could you please write more details?

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century, even if they are still possible (sure for V.42*, most likely for V.32*, don't know for V.34).

    i have still working isdn hardware from my amiga time as node

    isdn is very expensive connection now adays, its more or less just in germany now it still exists seen from current nodelist


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sat Mar 13 07:46:45 2021
    Hello Alexey!

    11 Mar 21 16:04, you wrote to me:

    No. There's no place for POTS links in 21st century... [continued
    above].

    Where is the demand, there should be some solution.

    Something I just run, it connects to my SIP provider and creates e.g. /dev/ttyS7 which I can show these mailers... I know it will need good line, good latency, sound libraries, and maybe others I do not know. But why is so odd?

    If I am googling I am finding similar people asking for the same.

    And similar answers like yours: "you do not need it".

    Karel

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Karel Kral on Sat Mar 13 13:02:38 2021
    Hello Karel!

    13 Mar 21, Karel Kral wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    If I am googling I am finding similar people asking for the same.

    And similar answers like yours: "you do not need it".

    Maybe for good reason?

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Kai Richter on Sat Mar 13 09:44:39 2021
    On 13 Mar 21 13:02:38, Kai Richter said the following to Karel Kral:

    If I am googling I am finding similar people asking for the same.

    And similar answers like yours: "you do not need it".

    Maybe for good reason?

    The original question was if technically it can be done, if so then how; not
    to debate the reason why. "You do not need it" is a douchebag response.

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    Nick

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 17:51:13 2021
    -={ 2021-03-13 17:51:13.646719217+00:00 }=-

    Hey Nick!

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    Blasphemy!

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Gyfena gehwilc underbæc besihþ.
    Every gift looks backwards.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.4(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 19:42:30 2021
    Hello Nick!

    13 Mar 2021 09:44, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    and you ask me what CPM is ?


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.11.5-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Benny Pedersen on Sat Mar 13 15:04:04 2021
    On 13 Mar 21 19:42:30, Benny Pedersen said the following to Nick Andre:

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    and you ask me what CPM is ?

    I know what CP/M is; why you "need" to run it is a non-technical question.

    Nick

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  • From Joe Phigan@1:305/3 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 13:44:37 2021
    I know what CP/M is; why you "need" to run it is a non-technical
    question.

    Was there a question on how to run CPM? :) You could get an Atari 8 bit and a Fujinet, open up an 80 column term program, and type "ATCPM" :D

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Joe Phigan on Sat Mar 13 15:54:27 2021
    On 13 Mar 21 13:44:37, Joe Phigan said the following to Nick Andre:

    I know what CP/M is; why you "need" to run it is a non-technical question.

    Was there a question on how to run CPM? :) You could get an Atari 8 bit and Fujinet, open up an 80 column term program, and type "ATCPM" :D

    Benny is a silly nut with his CPM obsession, its a longrunning in-joke.

    I countered with running an abacus... no response... yet.

    Nick

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Joe Phigan on Sat Mar 13 23:51:08 2021
    Hello Joe!

    13 Mar 2021 13:44, Joe Phigan wrote to Nick Andre:

    I know what CP/M is; why you "need" to run it is a non-technical
    question.

    i am not a technican

    Was there a question on how to run CPM? :) You could get an Atari 8
    bit and a Fujinet, open up an 80 column term program, and type "ATCPM" :D

    i still have a computer from the time of Bill Gates sayed 640K is good for microsoft basic, so lets sell it to anyone, good way of stop future developments of basic

    i really hate precompiled problems like this, if he would have liked to get respect he would show z80 macro assempler code for basic, so anyone could assemble exensions to make basic better, but no, closed sources like anywhere


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 23:55:28 2021
    Hello Nick!

    13 Mar 2021 15:54, Nick Andre wrote to Joe Phigan:

    Benny is a silly nut with his CPM obsession, its a longrunning
    in-joke.

    ?

    I countered with running an abacus... no response... yet.

    remember i dont understand canadiens jokes


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.11.5-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Nick Andre on Sun Mar 14 06:32:54 2021
    Hello Nick!

    13 Mar 21 09:44, you wrote to Kai Richter:

    The original question was if technically it can be done, if so then
    how; not to debate the reason why. "You do not need it" is a douchebag response.

    I saw not so bad fax solutions. I read also some "blue prints".

    What I understood, V.42b is achievable (technically).
    V.34 and so are patended still (no open source), but maybe technically also OK.

    Nowadays there are these "kickstarters" and similar. People are sharing cost of sometimes nonsences -> why not to use that way? If there will be 1000 people like me (wants to spend let say 100 EUR per "licence") - it may motive some other poeple to write it.

    Karel

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:103/705 to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 23:02:14 2021
    Re: Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Nick Andre to Kai Richter on Sat Mar 13 2021 09:44 am

    The original question was if technically it can be done, if so then how; not to debate the reason why. "You do not need it" is a douchebag response.

    indeed, to me any sort of emulation has both merit and novelty. faxes are still (surprisingly) useful.. as is dialup on occasion.

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    i'd say this is debatable lol
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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Karel Kral on Sun Mar 14 12:34:56 2021
    Good ${greeting_time}, Karel!

    14 Mar 2021 06:32:54, you wrote to Nick Andre:

    The original question was if technically it can be done, if so
    then how; not to debate the reason why. "You do not need it" is
    a douchebag response.
    I saw not so bad fax solutions. I read also some "blue prints".
    What I understood, V.42b is achievable (technically).

    Yes. Also, V.32b (9600 for sure, 14400 very likely) is possible as well.

    V.34 and so are patended still (no open source),

    People who can do that had never cared of any patents :-)

    but maybe technically also OK.

    I don't know of anyone who had worked on that.

    Nowadays there are these "kickstarters" and similar. People are
    sharing cost of sometimes nonsences -> why not to use that way?
    If there will be 1000 people like me (wants to spend let say 100
    EUR per "licence") - it may motive some other poeple to write it.

    100 EUR is the money I'd rather pay for 2 years of 500 Mbit/s internet connection, instead of some ephemeral "license" for a modem emulator...


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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  • From Richard Falken@1:123/115 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Mar 14 05:25:16 2021
    Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: Maurice Kinal to Nick Andre on Sat Mar 13 2021 05:51 pm

    -={ 2021-03-13 17:51:13.646719217+00:00 }=-

    Hey Nick!

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    Blasphemy!

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Gyfena gehwilc underbæc besihþ.
    Every gift looks backwards.

    Hey, you could run BSD instead, so it is not inaccurate.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alexander Grotewohl on Sun Mar 14 09:02:54 2021
    On 13 Mar 21 23:02:14, Alexander Grotewohl said the following to Nick Andre:

    indeed, to me any sort of emulation has both merit and novelty. faxes are still (surprisingly) useful.. as is dialup on occasion.

    Faxing is still a thing in Canada. I have several clients big and small that still shoot stuff via. fax. It "just works" for them.

    Heard faxing is still huge in Japan...

    A human being does not "need" to run Linux to live life...

    i'd say this is debatable lol

    Lol,

    Nick

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Richard Falken on Sun Mar 14 14:25:31 2021
    -={ 2021-03-14 14:25:31.621977947+00:00 }=-

    Hey Richard!

    Hey, you could run BSD instead, so it is not inaccurate.

    'instead' isn't an option in this case. The 'blasphemy' call stands.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Bald bið se ðe onbyregeð boca cræftes.
    Bold shall he be who tastes of the skill of books.
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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Nick Andre on Sun Mar 14 17:47:00 2021
    Hello Nick!

    13 Mar 21, Nick Andre wrote to Kai Richter:

    If I am googling I am finding similar people asking for the
    same.

    And similar answers like yours: "you do not need it".

    Maybe for good reason?

    The original question was if technically it can be done,

    Answer was yes.

    if so then how

    No answer from the one who said yes yet.

    ; not to debate the reason why. "You do not need it" is a
    douchebag response.

    Don't blame us, that's the internet answer. Fidonet just don't tell you. ;-)

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Mar 15 07:17:21 2021
    Hello Alexey!

    14 Mar 21 12:34, you wrote to me:

    100 EUR is the money I'd rather pay for 2 years of 500 Mbit/s internet connection, instead of some ephemeral "license" for a modem
    emulator...

    OK, you are not member of that 1000 people. These are who already have good internet connection and looking for something else. ;-)

    What if I need to exchange sometimes something with people who are still pure PSTN connected? Then internet connection is useless...

    Karel

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    * Origin: Plast DATA (2:423/39)
  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Karel Kral on Mon Mar 15 08:19:40 2021
    Hello Karel!

    15 Mar 21, Karel Kral wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    What if I need to exchange sometimes something with people who are
    still pure PSTN connected?

    a) Let the POTS user dial in to an internet gateway and he could use IP to connect you.

    b) Ask a node with POTS and IP to establish a direct route between those people and you and use that node as a gateway.

    c) Get old hardware and a real modem. Even if you need an POTS/VOIP ATA converter it will be cheaper than the 100.000 for kickstarter project or your 100 share for the kickstarter. You will get the fun for finding the right Init-AT command for free.

    d) Get old hardware, a real modem and your own POTS provider. No fun because Init ATZ.

    e) Send encrypted mircoSD cards via snailmail.

    f) Send a carrier pigeon.

    Did i forget anything? Hm, yes but that's an option i don't like.

    g) disconnect those people.

    Because the initial question wasn't FTN related i would prefer option a.

    h) establish an inmarsat link with those people.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Nick Andre on Mon Mar 15 12:04:00 2021
    Am 14.03.21 schrieb Nick Andre@1:229/426 in LINUX:

    Hallo Nick,

    indeed, to me any sort of emulation has both merit and novelty. faxes are AG>> still (surprisingly) useful.. as is dialup on occasion.

    Faxing is still a thing in Canada. I have several clients big and small that still shoot stuff via. fax. It "just works" for them.

    Heard faxing is still huge in Japan...

    And Germany - a huge chunk of our administration is dependant on faxes,
    also the medical sector :)

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.49
    * Origin: Imzadi Box Point (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Kai Richter on Mon Mar 15 16:23:17 2021
    Hello Kai!

    15 Mar 21 08:19, you wrote to me:

    b) Ask a node with POTS and IP to establish a direct route between
    those people and you and use that node as a gateway.

    This I am using (my uplink is so kind to do that)

    c) Get old hardware and a real modem. Even if you need an POTS/VOIP
    ATA converter it will be cheaper than the 100.000 for kickstarter
    project or your 100 share for the kickstarter. You will get the fun
    for finding the right Init-AT command for free.

    No chance to get analog here.

    d) Get old hardware, a real modem and your own POTS provider. No fun because Init ATZ.

    Like above.

    e) Send encrypted mircoSD cards via snailmail.

    ;-)

    f) Send a carrier pigeon.

    ;-)

    Karel

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    * Origin: Plast DATA (2:423/39)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Alexey Vissarionov on Mon Mar 15 15:03:42 2021
    Alexey wrote:
    Good ${greeting_time}, Nick!

    11 Mar 2021 03:48:40, you wrote to All:

    I would love to add dial-up support to my BBS but I can't connect physical hardware (e.g. modem) to a VPS.
    Does anyone know of a way to 'emulate' a modem which listens on a
    VoIP SIP/IAX line?

    Yes.

    Congrats. You have won the most useless response of the week award ;)
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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Karel Kral on Mon Mar 15 19:05:24 2021
    Hello Karel!

    15 Mar 21, Karel Kral wrote to Kai Richter:

    c) Get old hardware and a real modem. Even if you need an
    POTS/VOIP ATA converter

    No chance to get analog here.

    The converter will take analog wires and transfer to VoIP. FXS or FXO, sorry, i'm not used to the professional wordings and mix them up, but you will find the glossary at the asterisk environment.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Anna Christina Nass on Mon Mar 15 13:18:00 2021
    Anna Christina Nass wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    @MSGID: <604F5081.295.fidonet_linux@caughtinadream.com>
    @REPLY: <604E109D.290.fidonet_linux@caughtinadream.com>
    @TZ: 003c
    Am 14.03.21 schrieb Nick Andre@1:229/426 in LINUX:

    And Germany - a huge chunk of our administration is dependant on
    faxes, also the medical sector :)

    I laugh at this whenever I hear that faxes are more secure. Too many
    times I've seen faxes, labeled SECURE, sitting on the fax machine
    waiting to be picked up by someone. If companies would just open up a
    secure portal on their website to accept SECURE messages, this would get
    rid of the whole fax dilema.

    Technology -- two steps forward, three steps back.


    Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Brian Klauss on Tue Mar 16 07:59:56 2021
    Hello Brian!

    15 Mar 21 13:18, you wrote to Anna Christina Nass:

    I laugh at this whenever I hear that faxes are more secure. Too many times I've seen faxes, labeled SECURE, sitting on the fax machine
    waiting to be picked up by someone. If companies would just open up a secure portal on their website to accept SECURE messages, this would
    get rid of the whole fax dilema.

    Technology -- two steps forward, three steps back.

    There were some advantages of fax communication (where I understood why German companies still insist to keep fax communication). It is really peer2peer and sender immediately knows if fax was received.

    Do you remember time when emails were alredy born but automotive companies insisted on odette standards?

    Karel

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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Kai Richter on Tue Mar 16 08:04:13 2021
    Hello Kai!

    15 Mar 21 19:05, you wrote to me:

    The converter will take analog wires and transfer to VoIP. FXS or FXO, sorry, i'm not used to the professional wordings and mix them up, but
    you will find the glossary at the asterisk environment.

    OK. Asterisk is not my case, but in the past I tested my Huawei LTE router. It registered with my SIP provider. I bought cheap modem from wish and were able to exchange some kB via V.32 (calling some BBS). But it was from windows machine (as my "NAS" solution did not work with that USB thing).

    I made decission between: a) to make node local, invest a bit into linux (rasp pi), buy better LTE router/converter (have Cisco in mind) and better modem (stil USR is available). But. I am exchanging approx 1GB/month and considering hardware "maintenance" and other thing - b) I decided hosting VPS and using (still/just) ipv6/ipv4.

    Then I started to look for /dev/ttySblbla solution... (which is this thread about).

    Karel

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Karel Kral on Tue Mar 16 08:16:00 2021
    Karel Kral wrote to Brian Klauss <=-

    @MSGID: <60505F3D.300.fidonet_linux@caughtinadream.com>
    @REPLY: <604FE3C0.299.fidonet_linux@caughtinadream.com>
    @TZ: 003c

    There were some advantages of fax communication (where I understood
    why German companies still insist to keep fax communication). It is
    really peer2peer and sender immediately knows if fax was received.

    Do you remember time when emails were alredy born but automotive
    companies insisted on odette standards?

    I vaguely remember this. Even to this day, some companies insist on
    legacy EDI standards instead of more modern secure methods of
    communication. I remember working for a company in the mid 90s that
    refused to move off of their existing EDI system... why? The airlines
    relied upon it for AOG (Aircraft On Ground) based shipment and
    communications. Airlines!?!? Oh, well, I shouldn't SABRE-rattle. :)


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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Brian Klauss on Tue Mar 16 09:34:29 2021
    And Germany - a huge chunk of our administration is dependant on faxes, also the medical sector :)

    I laugh at this whenever I hear that faxes are more secure. Too many times I've seen faxes, labeled SECURE, sitting on the fax machine
    waiting to be picked up by someone. If companies would just open up a secure portal on their website to accept SECURE messages, this would get rid of the whole fax dilema.

    Faxes are sometimes used so that government and the broader internet can't see whats being transferred. Businesses that are under the table use them to send their reports all the time. :P



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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:103/705 to paul lee on Tue Mar 16 11:21:25 2021
    Re: Re: Linux Virtual Modem using VoIP?
    By: paul lee to Brian Klauss on Tue Mar 16 2021 09:34 am

    Faxes are sometimes used so that government and the broader internet can't see whats being transferred. Businesses that are under the table use them to send their reports all the time. :P

    that and something that's potentially noisy and in the way as a little less likely to be ignored (i'm thinking prescriptions and whatnot like what the doctors offices use it for)

    i do want to try out one of those hybrid dot matrix printer text terminals sometime.. might be kinda fun, if not a bit wasteful, to have a printout of a bbs session that prints line by line as you go hehe
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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Brian Klauss on Tue Mar 16 21:51:50 2021
    Hello Brian!

    16 Mar 21, Brian Klauss wrote to Karel Kral:

    refused to move off of their existing EDI system... why? The airlines relied upon it for AOG (Aircraft On Ground) based shipment and communications. Airlines!?!?

    Aviation IT is the supreme discipline for interface networking.

    It isn't rare that upgraded software keeps the limitations of it's predecessor just for compatibility with the network.

    The AOG condition is a defect that prevents the aircraft to fly. If it doesn't two flights will be cancled. Two? Yes, the aircraft does the return flight too.

    On "no night flights" airports you have to get airborn before the runway closes. If you don't then you'll need 250 hotel beds.

    That's why you need a spare part storage on the airport where common important parts are ready for AOG. Wheels for example. If you have 50 airlines with 2 aircraft types with each two spare wheels you will need a storage of 200 wheels on each airport. This doesn't make sense and that's why there are pool part storages. Airlines share the pool and the data access to that pool.

    If you upgrade you have to upgrade all airlines at once.

    Regards

    Kai

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