• FidoNet History

    From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to All on Sat Oct 1 09:01:00 2022
    Hi, All!

    The work done by Tom Jennings in 1983-84 resulted in a bulletin board system (BBS) called "Fido because the assorted hardware together was a real mongrel". The software linkage between 2 systems became a network and spawned the name FidoNet. The use of 2 capital letters is correct and is a (now expired) trademark. The program has also been called FIDONET (by Ben Baker) but that wasn't what was trademarked by Tom.

    Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet and personal knowledge from communications with Tom and others involved in the creation of FidoNet.


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Dallas Hinton on Thu Oct 6 13:35:22 2022
    Dallas Hinton:

    The work done by Tom Jennings in 1983-84 resulted in a
    bulletin board system (BBS) called "Fido because the
    assorted hardware together was a real mongrel". The
    software linkage between 2 systems became a network and
    spawned the name FidoNet.

    Indeed, FidoNet started as a network of BBSes, with the
    necessary extensions for semi-automated article propagation.

    The use of 2 capital letters is correct and is a (now
    expired) trademark. The program has also been called
    FIDONET (by Ben Baker) but that wasn't what was
    trademarked by Tom.

    This may have been due to a convention or limitation of a
    case-insensitive file system, cf. lowercase program names in
    Linux in spite of its case-sensitive file system.

    Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet and personal knowledge from communications with Tom and others involved in the creation of FidoNet.

    Since you wrote it in a single long line, I for a moment
    thought that was such a great page on Wikipedia documenting
    personal knowledge of FidoNet (-: But of course personal
    communication with a carrier of such personal knowledge is
    even more interesting and pleasing. Is there a way to ask
    an autograph over FidoNet? Should be an auto-ASCII-graph,
    probably.

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Anton Shepelev on Thu Oct 6 19:17:28 2022
    Hi, Anton -- on Oct 06 2022 at 13:35, you wrote:

    even more interesting and pleasing. Is there a way to ask
    an autograph over FidoNet? Should be an auto-ASCII-graph,
    probably.

    I very much doubt it - Tom is a reclusive anarchist, and doesn't respond to most requests about anything, to the best of my knowledge.


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Anton Shepelev on Fri Oct 7 09:04:37 2022
    Hi, Anton Shepelev!
    I read your message from 06.10.2022 13:35

    AS> Is there a way to ask
    AS> an autograph over FidoNet? Should be an auto-ASCII-graph,
    AS> probably.

    Do you need a separate signature? For forging documents? ;-)
    An autograph is usually written on something, a photo for instance. You
    can attach a photo to a message, the recipient puts his signature on it,
    using Photoshop, and sends it back to you.

    Bye, Anton!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido.english_tutor 2022
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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to alexander koryagin on Sun Nov 20 13:18:16 2022
    alexander koryagin to Anton Shepelev:

    Is there a way to ask an autograph over FidoNet?
    Should be an auto-ASCII-graph, probably.

    Do you need a separate signature? For forging documents?
    ;-)

    Well, `need' is the wrong word here. Does one forge
    documents with an autograph?

    An autograph is usually written on something, a photo
    for instance. You can attach a photo to a message, the
    recipient puts his signature on it, using Photoshop, and
    sends it back to you.

    "It ain't necessarily so:"

    Autograph 0tographe, fr. Gr. ?
    autographic; ? self + ? to write.]
    That which is written with one's own hand; an original
    manuscript; a person's own signature or handwriting.
    [1913 Webster]

    Observe that I craved the honor of receiving an auto-ASCII-
    graph, which is more compatible with the text nature of
    FidoNet. Do you still meet with binary "attachments" to
    FidoNet messages?

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Dallas Hinton on Sun Nov 20 13:39:48 2022
    Ardith Hinton to Anton Shepelev:

    Tom [Jennings] is a reclusive anarchist, and doesn't
    respond to most requests about anything, to the best of
    my knowledge.

    This, I think, is a sad pupular misconception, for anarchism
    is based on comradeship and reciprocity, in contrast the
    competition of social darwinism. See, for example, the works
    of prominent anarchist Peter Kropotkin, and especially --

    Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution:
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/kropotkin-peter/1902/mutual-aid/index.htm

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Anton Shepelev on Mon Nov 21 08:52:11 2022
    Hi, Anton Shepelev!
    I read your message from 20.11.2022 14:18

    AS> Observe that I craved the honor of receiving an auto-ASCII-
    AS> ??graph, which is more compatible with the text nature of
    AS> FidoNet. Do you still meet with binary "attachments" to
    AS> FidoNet messages?

    I see them sometimes -- some old Fidonet guys still send their photos in
    this way. You just need to transfer binary codes to printable ones and
    put it the message. After receiving it you must do the reverse
    operation. Usually they use UUE.

    Although last time it is more and more often that everybody use URLs.
    There are specials sited where you can upload your photo, get its URL
    and send it.


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    Bye, Anton!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido.english_tutor,local.cc.ak 2022
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