Hi All!

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most correct:

1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

Bye All!
Alexander
english_tutor 2022
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26 Sep 2022 11:49, you wrote to All:

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most correct:

1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

...or:

4. FidoNet
5. FIDOnet

Carlos

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alexander koryagin:

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most
correct:
1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

None of the above, because names are written with an capital
initial letter, including dogs' names. It is therefore
Fidonet.

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I wrote:

It is therefore Fidonet.

For some reason the official capitalisation is FidoNet, cf.
Usenet.

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Hello, alexander!

Monday September 26 2022 11:49, from alexander koryagin -> All:

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most correct:
1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

From a legal perspective, the only correct way is - "Fido" "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings.

You might appeal to the fact that the registration application has expired with status dead/cancelled as of May, 2008, but historically that was the way Thomas Daniel Jennings filed the application in 1984.

Best Regards, Nil
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Hi, Anton Shepelev - Alexander Koryagin!
I read your message from 27.09.2022 10:54

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most
correct:
1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

None of the above, because names are written with an capital
initial letter, including dogs' names. It is therefore
Fidonet.

None? Was it in the second variant?

Bye, Anton!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2022

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Alexander Koryagin wrote:

1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

None of the above,

What is that, did your reformatter hiccup?
Yes, I meant Fidonet, item two.

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Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to All:

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is
the most correct:

1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts of interesting people out of the woodwork. Give yourself a gold star... [chuckle].


#2 seems to be most common nowadays. I hear what Nil is saying, and remember when the /N/ was usually capitalized. But native speakers of English tend to shorten or simplify words according to what seems easier... whether or not it makes sense to others. Either way I'd capitalize the /F/ here because, as the name of an organization, "Fidonet" is a proper noun.


You may notice #3 as a user on someone else's system where the names of various echoes are spelled entirely in capital letters. Dallas & I do much the same. According to the way we were taught, the names of books & magazines are underlined when you're writing things out by hand or using ye olde antique typewriter which allows you to type more than one character in the same space. With typeset material &/or articles found on the Internet such names generally appear in italics. The objective, as I see it, is to make the title stand out from whatever you or I have to say... and we do the best we can. When you see me spell ENGLISH_TUTOR or FIDONEWS or FIDONET.TELEGRAM in capital letters, I'm sure you'll understand I'm treating these echoes as I would magazines.... :-)




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Hi, Ardith Hinton - Alexander Koryagin!
I read your message from 01.10.2022 01:56

Which way in writing the word "fidonet" is the most correct:
1. fidonet
2. Fidonet
3, FIDONET

Thanks for all who answered! I am writing a reference manual where I describe how to write messages to FIDO properly (using my program) :) Time has changed, and Google give us now strange answers to the question "what FIDO means" ;) But probably it is important to know in case FIDO is an abbreviation.

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts of
interesting people out of the woodwork. Give yourself a gold
star... [chuckle].

We should blame the love for the subject. ;)

#2 seems to be most common nowadays. I hear what Nil is saying, and remember when the /N/ was usually capitalized. But native speakers
of English tend to shorten or simplify words according to what
seems easier... whether or not it makes sense to others. Either way
I'd capitalize the /F/ here because, as the name of an
organization, "Fidonet" is a proper noun.

Yes, probably another words as Usenet, Internet give us the idea in general.

You may notice #3 as a user on someone else's system where the
names of various echoes are spelled entirely in capital letters.
Dallas & I do much the same. According to the way we were taught,
the names of books & magazines are underlined when you're writing
things out by hand or using ye olde antique typewriter which allows
you to type more than one character in the same space. With typeset material &/or articles found on the Internet such names generally
appear in italics. The objective, as I see it, is to make the title
stand out from whatever you or I have to say... and we do the best
we can. When you see me spell ENGLISH_TUTOR or FIDONEWS or FIDONET.TELEGRAM in capital letters, I'm sure you'll understand I'm treating these echoes as I would magazines.... :-)

IMHO, FIDONET looks in the most spectacular way. It twice as heavy than other variants, a real signboard. ;-)

Bye, Ardith!Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2022

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Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to alexander koryagin:

names are written with an capital initial letter,
including dogs' names.

I gather you've picked up on the idea that "Fido" is a name which is (or once was) often given to dogs, and that the official logo of this network includes a representation of a dog.... :-)




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Hi & welcome, Carlos! Recently you wrote in a message to alexander koryagin:

4. FidoNet

Yes, it's the original spelling of the name.

5. FIDOnet

I've seen names of other networks spelled in a similar way... but I believe this generally occurs when the letters preceding "net" are an acronym, i.e. an abbreviation derived from initial letters &/or syllables.

In the (now defunct) ADAnet, e.g., "ADA" meant "American Disability Association". "Fido" isn't an abbreviation in this context. :-)




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Hello, Ardith!

Sunday October 02 2022 20:40, from Ardith Hinton -> Anton Shepelev:

I gather you've picked up on the idea that "Fido" is a name which is
(or once was) often given to dogs, and that the official logo of this network includes a representation of a dog.... :-)

Come on, you're cheating. Your mobile carrier is Fido and all bills come with cute puppies ;-)

Best Regards, Nil
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Hi, Nil! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

I gather you've picked up on the idea that "Fido" is
a name which is (or once was) often given to dogs,
and that the official logo of this network includes
a representation of a dog.... :-)

Come on, you're cheating. Your mobile carrier is Fido
and all bills come with cute puppies ;-)

Hmm. I'd noticed the ads for this outfit but hadn't been paying much attention. I was thinking of using it as an example, in a reply to Alexander, of how the name seems to be up for grabs now that Tom Jennings has let his own registration expire, but you beat me to it & saved me a bit of work.... :-)))




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Ardith Hinton:

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts of
interesting people out of the woodwork.

You mean termites, what?!

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Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts
of interesting people out of the woodwork.

You mean termites, what?!

Speaking figuratively, I was including various people who don't often say much here but are well worth listening to.... :-)




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Ardith Hinton to Anton Shepelev:

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts
of interesting people out of the woodwork.

You mean termites, what?!

Speaking figuratively, I was including various people
who don't often say much here but are well worth
listening to.... :-)

Yes, I understood you, and made a feeble attempt at a lowly
joke prompted and insufficiently justified by an implicit
and unnoticed metaphor of FidoNet as an old, desolate, and
decaying wooden building, whose last surviving inhabitants
have retreated behind &c, &c.

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Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

This apparently simple question has brought all sorts
of interesting people out of the woodwork.

You mean termites, what?!

Speaking figuratively, I was including various people
who don't often say much here but are well worth
listening to.... :-)

Yes, I understood you, and made a feeble attempt at a
lowly joke prompted and insufficiently justified by an
implicit and unnoticed metaphor of FidoNet as an old,
desolate, and decaying wooden building, whose last
surviving inhabitants have retreated behind &c, &c.

I hadn't thought of that, but I have heard it said WRT the Biblical assertion "the meek shall inherit the earth" that cockroaches may outlive human beings for quite awhile if both are exposed to nuclear radiation... [wry grin].




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