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    From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to All on Thu Apr 15 11:03:24 2021
    Hi, All!

    The Gun Seller, by Hugh Laurie

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    His name was Rayner. First name unknown. By me, at
    any rate, and therefore, presumably, by you too.
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    It seems I forgot it -- when I am asked "what's your name" -- am I asked
    about my second name? Or you have some variants? ;)

    Bye, All!
    Alexander Koryagin

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to alexander koryagin on Tue Apr 20 18:29:22 2021
    Alexander Koryagin:

    It seems I forgot it -- 384at's your name" -- am I asked
    about my second name? Or you have some variants? ;)

    It may be your first, last, or full name. Remember the self-
    introduciton of the famous fictional detective Lew Archer:
    "The name is Archer."

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to alexander koryagin on Wed Apr 21 23:52:19 2021




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to alexander koryagin on Wed Apr 21 23:58:36 2021
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to All:

    -----Beginning of the citation-----
    His name was Rayner. First name unknown. By me,
    at any rate, and therefore, presumably, by you too.
    ----- The end of the citation -----

    It seems I forgot it -- when I am asked "what's
    your name" -- am I asked about my second name?
    Or you have some variants? ;)


    A lot depends on the circumstances. At informal gatherings I might say "Alexander, I'd like you to meet my friend Bruce". The use of first names often implies familiarity & social equality, however... so things may be a bit different where kids are involved. If I were introducing you to a grade eight class you'd be "Mr. Koryagin" to them and "Alexander" in the staff room. OTOH you may also, as an adult friend of the family, be called "Uncle Alex(ander)".

    Years ago... when I worked as a waitress... I was known by my first name & entered by the back door while as a teacher I was known as "Miss XXX" & entered by the front door, although for some time the two jobs overlapped. It was axiomatic back then that, as a customer, you'd be "Sir" or "Mr. Koryagin". It didn't strike me as unusual when Dallas & I were in our twenties that a few shop assistants in our neighbourhood were known to us as Mr. So-and-So because they were much older. We'd both seen how conservative our grandparents & even our parents were WRT first names. But nowadays things are generally much more informal, and we may encounter a lot of people whose surnames we don't know.

    Sometimes that works, sometimes not. Children & foreigners usually get my first name right because they're open to experience & don't try to make it conform to what they think they already know. When the receptionist at the dentist's office e.g. asks for my name I say "Mrs. Hinton" because it's easier to spell. She may think it's stuffy, old-fashioned, and/or elitist... but she gets it right. OTOH, you might find it more efficient to say "Alexander" when you're waiting your turn & you're not likely to be confused with someone else.

    If you were employed in a military or quasi-military job, you would probably wear a badge saying "Koryagin". If you're reading about a fictitious character who attended a British private school during the last century or so, you might see him introducing himself as e.g. "Bond... James Bond". In such a situation the use of both names adds credibility, I reckon, just as it does in Fidonet where there are potentially larger numbers of people involved. But if we're making a reservation at a local eatery there may be two or three Hintons involved & the newbies at the front desk don't need to know all the details... in which case the first to arrive will use only the surname. Other members of staff who know us well are not discouraged from using our first names.

    YMMV, of course. I've never been to Russia... but I have noticed a difference in levels of formality between the UK & the US. :-)




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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Ardith Hinton on Fri Apr 23 14:16:44 2021
    Hi, Ardith Hinton! ->Alexander Koryagin
    I read your message from 21.04.2021 23:58

    A lot depends on the circumstances. At informal
    gatherings I might say "Alexander, I'd like you to meet my
    friend Bruce". The use of first names often implies
    familiarity & social equality, however... so things may be a bit
    different where kids are involved. If I were introducing you to a
    grade eight class you'd be "Mr. Koryagin" to them and "Alexander" in
    the staff room. OTOH you may also, as an adult friend of the family,
    be called "Uncle Alex(ander)".

    So, if you are a headmaster in school, and you want to find out who is that naughty boy throwing rocks, you will ask him, "Why you are not at a lesson? What's your second name?"

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2021

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Alexander Koryagin on Sat Apr 24 00:50:14 2021
    Alexander Koragin:

    So, if you are a headmaster in school, and you want to
    find out who is that naughty boy throwing rocks, you
    will ask him, "Why you are not at a lesson?

    Why *are* you not *in class*? (I think)

    What's your second name?"

    "Tell me your name." should be enough.

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