• Revelation Song

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Thu May 16 06:51:07 2024
    I got into Christian music a couple years ago, and now I love it.

    There's a trio called Phillips, Craig & Dean, and these guys made a heavy version of Revelation Song, and it really kicks ass! It sounds like the heavy metal band Type O Negative. I love it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5_dzjSIySw

    Something I don't understand about Christian music though: Do they all just share each others songs freely? There are like 10 different versions of Revelation Song all sung by different musicians. I've noticed this with other Christian songs too.

    The king of kings deserves all-original material! ;)

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  • From Tobias Ernst@2:240/5853.10 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 18 12:46:00 2024
    Hi,


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5_dzjSIySw

    Something I don't understand about Christian music though: Do they all just share each others songs freely? There are like 10 different versions of Revelation Song all sung by different musicians. I've noticed this with
    other Christian songs too.

    The king of kings deserves all-original material! ;)

    I think the original version of this song was written by Jennie Lee Riddle
    in 2004.

    Now, when I clicked on your Youtube link, I got geoblocked because I am located in Europe. I know how to circumvent this with VPN, but one can
    wonder whether this is what the king of kings intends or deserves ;).

    If you look at how the classical hymns originated, they mostly were
    created by folks who had a paid job, like pastor, organist, or choir lead, and were then freely shared and propagated and sung by everyone. I think that's how it should be and modern Christian groups try to mimic this idea
    of sharing the gospel. However, they also have to make a living from it.
    So they try to generate revenue from Youtube or other sources as well. Understandable.

    Over here in Germany we have a state-enforced system called GEMA which collects royalties from every computer sale, from every public performance
    of whatsoever. Artists who create something register with GEMA and there
    is some mechanism of how they receive their share from the royalties collected by GEMA.

    My parish (a confessional Lutheran one in Germany) streams its services
    live on the Internet. We started doing so during the lockdowns, but
    continued doing it afterwards because we are a minitory church with a very big catchment area (some have to travel like 2 hours to get to church) and not all elderly members make it every Sunday.

    Now we have a hymnbook issued by our church that has both the original Lutheran hmyns as well as modern songs. When the congregation sings, we overlay the lyrics on the video stream. Soon we were contacted by GEMA
    that this is a public performance (of the lyrics) and we need to pay royalties. We ended up overlying the lyrics only for the royalty-free traditional hymns. Streaming the congregation singing modern songs without showing the lyrics was deemed to be allowable without having to pay
    royalties to GEMA :).

    There also was a wide discussion about our traditional Christmas fairs.
    The choirs that perform there are deemed to be professional (even if they don't ask for money) and hence someone (usually the merchants present at
    the fair) has to pay to GEMA for such performances of "modern" Christmas songs. There was a huge political uproar about this about this, because
    the calculation scheme for GEMA on Christmas fairs changed and singing a Christmas song at a Christmais fair became freaking expensive. I wonder, though, whether it is really necessary to sing "modern" Christmas songs at those fairs, we have so many beautiful traditional ones that are entirely royalty free ...

    There is clash here because the need for artists to receive fair
    remuneration (something every Christian should subscribe to) on the one
    hand, and the wish for the gospel to be shared freely (something also
    every Christian should subscribe to ...).

    Cheers!
    Tobias


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  • From unu@2:423/81.44 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 20 01:12:38 2024
    Dear Aaron,

    Something I don't understand about Christian music though: Do they all just share each others songs freely? There are like 10 different

    I suppose the copyright reach is circa 100 years at most from the cease of
    the author. Afterwards it is public domain.
    And in my honest opinion there are afterwards problems to determine which of that version that exists (like from different copies accross) what is the real original.
    I saw someone adding a whole passages to existing classicals music. And then
    if that gets favaorite to differentiate it from the real piece.

    That is just my opinion

    Best regards and have a nice day

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@1:135/363 to unu on Sun Nov 3 16:23:18 2024
    unu wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    Dear Aaron,

    Something I don't understand about Christian music though: Do they all just share each others songs freely? There are like 10 different

    I suppose the copyright reach is circa 100 years at most from the cease
    of the author. Afterwards it is public domain.
    And in my honest opinion there are afterwards problems to determine
    which of that version that exists (like from different copies accross) what is the real original.
    I saw someone adding a whole passages to existing classicals music. And then if that gets favaorite to differentiate it from the real piece.

    That is just my opinion

    Best regards and have a nice day

    Just my 2 cents, but as a song writer, I would love for someone to do
    my work! And as a Christian, if it blesses someone? Then heck - use it
    for free!






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  • From unu@2:423/81.44 to Jimmy Anderson on Wed Nov 6 17:20:28 2024
    Just my 2 cents, but as a song writer, I would love for someone to do
    my work! And as a Christian, if it blesses someone? Then heck - use it
    for free!

    God Bless Your Steps.

    This is what I came up with:

    https://soundcloud.com/m0dler/sets/mozart-requiem-d-moll

    Have a good day

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